I got my money out from them.
Last fee was 40$ for neteller. At least Im out from there for good.
Last fee was 40$ for neteller. At least Im out from there for good.
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my grade should be D- or something like that.Comment -
I actually liked Atlas and wish I could play there. I like their MLB numbers a lot. Never had a problem with anything to do with bets that I can recall. I'm not sure what you mean DIF. The software doesn't prevent you from checking your bets. I do it with every bet I place. It's the same BLR set-up that Legendz and BetJoint use.
But I agree that D- would be a suitable rating at least until they figure out how to make payouts. If they are having processor issues, then that sucks for them. But players shouldn't be looking and seeing a B- rating right now.
Ya gotta be able to payout.Comment -
LOL
$40 for a neteller payout.
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Wow.
I just got word that this payout issue was just resolved over the weekend. I had forgotten about it and assumed it was done a long time ago.
It was 3+ months to get paid. I can't think of any reason to change my assessment from: avoid.
Anyone playing there now or have other recent experience?Comment -
If you knew all the details Dan, it gets even worse. A wait is one thing but this guy got jerked around pretty good. Like they sent him for Western Union and Moneygram pickups and the money wasn't there - more than once. All kinds of crap.
I don't know what is going on with Atlas. I used to love them but it sounds like they just can't do payouts any more. I figured their problems were temporary but they have been slow-paying routinely for how long now? 6 months?
Maybe time for SBR to reconsider that B- rating, at least temporarily. A book needs to be able to deal with payouts.Comment -
Anyone have any more recent updates on this book? I know Mudcat's buddy had some MAJOR issues getting paid - is this an isolated case or is this still the norm? Seems like 8 weeks was the "norm" earlier in the year, anyone have different/similar experiences, especially since football has now been in full swing?
ALSO, the thread seems a bit incomplete as Dozer was a regular visitor and the problem seemed to be corrected in a reasonable way with some help from SBR. However, Mudcat then posts 5 days later that this issue was still ongoing, and then a month later that it was finally resolved but in a very inconvenient way. Dozer never revisited the thread. Does SBR have any comments on these inconsistencies? Has SBR been in contact with BetAtlas recently?
Was interested in posting up with them for the NBA season (they offer -107 on both sides and totals right?) but not if they are having regular payout problems.
Also, can you get a bonus as well as -107 line sets?Comment -
I haven't read of any newly reported slow pays from BetAtlas lately sir. Hopefully this was indeed an isolated incident.Comment -
I had a slow pay documented on here.. about 2 months back in May/June. They allow bonus and -107 lines. I liked them a lot for this. But their funding methods are bad. I wish they would accept credit card. I had shady dealings with them but was eventually paid. I dealt with them way in the past and I was always paid. I didn't feel that they wouldnt pay me or weren't trying. They actually called me and was always in contact with me. So they are a good book with lines/bonuses. But the wait made me feel uneasy. I was dealing with bethorizon the whole time. If I hear they are back to paying on time within 7-10 days I would use them again. But at this point I'm staying away and if I use them I would use small money.Comment -
I am glad I'm not the only one who finds this situation noteworthy.
I got some spam from Atlas just today. I would be interested to know if they have actually fixed anything or are just hoping for deposits. For now, I am sticking with my recommendation of, avoid.
As for the role of forum "interventions" into the dispute, the player feels they only slowed things down. He tried going to eog - where Atlas advertises and where SHRINK said he would look into it - absolutely nothing happened. Zero.
SBR had a bit of interest at the start but bowed out of the picture. The player just continued with his dogging of Atlas that had resulted in him getting his initial payouts, albeit very, very slowly.
He estimates that, between time on the phone and running around, it took at least 50 hours plus some gas for the whole process of getting his money out.
So to anyone looking at this current round of spam I would say, beware.Comment -
This was definitely not an isolated incident. There have been many situations going back for a good part of the year 2008.
The problem is, SBR can't really react to things that don't get reported formally. They know all about this one situation - which was full of eye-opening crap that Atlas is doing that SBR should react to - and I would have sworn there were other situations that got reported - but maybe not.
So people receive the Atlas spam with some tempting stuff, they check the SBR rating and see B-. Bob's your uncle - they send their money to a book that isn't equipped for payouts.
The moral of the story is, smart players need to watch this forum.Comment -
As I look at some new Atlas spam I wonder, does anyone have anything new to report?
Anyone playing there?
Are they paying out or still mainly just interested in taking deposits?Comment -
They paid me in two hours by neteller after talking to the accounts department $40 processing fee.
Sportbet still as not paid me they have paid the first 2k $25 process fee I am still waiting for the rest.
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Thank you for the clarification sir. Tis appreciated.
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Well that's something anyway.
Me and the people I have been talking to don't have Neteller available so all the problems are with cheques, Moneygram, and Western Union. Unless something has changed, they don't use Moneybookers.
So until I hear something about them figuring out their payout processing with those methods, I am sticking with my "avoid" verdict.
However that is good news.Comment -
Curious if anyone has anything new to report about Bet Atlas.Comment -
BetAtlas is one of two books that won't stop spamming me. The other one is Ehorse (which kicked me out 3 years ago, but still sends me junk mail).Comment -
It is that spam that keeps prompting me to bump this thread. I see their messages saying sh1t like PLAYERS STAY BECAUSE WE PAY.
Problem is they are almost totally unequipped to do payouts. Or at least they have been for most of this year.
Then a player might check the SBR rating and see a "B-" which SBR defines as, Good, minimal risk to players funds. Top 10% of all books.
If SBR knows something about this that I don't, I would be interested. Has Atlas changed anything in the last couple months? I used to like Atlas a lot. But I think SBR has been asleep at the wheel on this one.
Meanwhile players should be warned.Comment -
This is the same book Mudcat that "claimed I spoke on the phone as I worked for sbr"
which obviously anyone who knows me I'm a Maverick and proudly wave the AK flag ship.
Anyhow I have been WaRnInG people about this atlas sportsbook for a year now. Tread with high caution! They are offering 100% signup bonuses if you speak to them on the phone.Comment -
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I thought it was Greek that you called and pretended to be an SBR employee. Nonetheless, your posts are worthless.This is the same book Mudcat that "claimed I spoke on the phone as I worked for sbr"which obviously anyone who knows me I'm a Maverick and proudly wave the AK flag ship.
Anyhow I have been WaRnInG people about this atlas sportsbook for a year now. Tread with high caution! They are offering 100% signup bonuses if you speak to them on the phone.
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If there is any cause AK actually believes in, the worst thing he can do is attach his name to it. It immediately makes people assume there is some kind of scam going on and lends sympathy to the other side.
Christ, he had me defending BETFIRSTCLASS a few weeks back.
Anyway, this is not an AK type situation. The fact is that Atlas has been having extreme problems making payouts for most of the year. SBR has been informed of multiple cases spread out over months and months through the forum, and at least this one case through a formal complaint.
If anything is changing at all, I would be curious to know.Comment -
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And we all know how well Mavericks are doing this year
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I know. AK the maverick.
Anyway, there was a recent report of an issue regarding a Neteller payout so I'll add a link to track that. HEREComment -
I see some more Atlas spam making the rounds.
It's nice that they are wishing me Happy Holidays. I wish the people there Happy Holidays too.
But they still haven't quite figured out how to make payouts so my recommendation remains: avoid.Comment -
Mudcat,
Do you have any new evidence of this? Not hearing something about a book for a few months, I can see an argument being made that is a good sign. Just wondering as I still haven't posted up there largely b/c of this thread, but would love to add them at some point. Thanks for any info you or anyone else cares to share.Comment -
Not hearing anything about a book can mean two things:
1) They are not having any problems.
2) Everyone has figured out not to play there.
I think this falls more under the heading of (2). I bump this thread regularly and encourage people to report their experiences, good and bad. I don't get much of anything.
All of my non-SBR contacts know not to play there so I don't get any reports from them.
We did have this report - which finally resolved last week - which was negative. (At least I call 5 weeks to get paid negative. Some may say, "5 weeks is an improvement so that's positive.")
Also bear in mind that that report involved Neteller - which is not available to many on this forum. Neteller seems to be the one method where there are signs of life (if we classify 5 weeks as a sign of life).
Also bear in mind, it is not just the length of time it takes. My situation was bad enough, but if you heard my buddy rant about all the ways they screwed him around . . . I don't wish it on anyone. I mean they sent him to Western Union but there was no money there. TWICE. Lies and broken promises. He estimated that he spent something like 50 hours getting his money out of there. Nightmare payout.
So that's what I can tell you. I'm with you. I would like to post up. I really liked them for baseball. But they have a long way to go before I will trust them again.
If anyone has any new information, I hope they will add it.Comment -
Not much more that I can add other than I liked their lines/bonuses but after my long payout issue I decided not to play with them anymore. I liked them in the past and never had a problem but it was just way too long.. I wouldnt mind waiting up to 2 weeks after that then there is a problem.Comment -
I have also heard of people getting stalled for months. Eventually they were paid, but only after several hours on the chat and email. AVOID!Comment
