Bet Atlas - avoid

[applepicks]

I sent this to Bill about 8 months ago. I knew then to get my money out of there. This is what I know. The first and third link no longer works, but I'm looking for more on this, in regards to the criminial cases:

Bill,



FYI, -name edit- is Max and

-name edit- is his wife.





http://boston.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/pr...ring091906.htm







In this one below, -name edit- is the the guy known down in Costa Rica as “Nick” and he is the original owner of Horizon. Max was merely an employee and Nick GAVE him 10% of the Company as a bonus. When Nick got busted, Max took it upon himself to STEAL the Company and run it into the ground, along with his wife -name edit- who is a Venzulean national.




http://www.boston.com/news/local/art...eering/?page=2






This is another article that talks about -name edit-, whose father works for Horizon and deals with all of the Agents that were just busted.




http://www.northjersey.com/page.php?...Y3dnFlZUVFeXkz


Bill, this stuff is starting to add up. Horizon may be in trouble. Next year this time we may not even be talking about the book as they might now be around. When I spoke to some former employees last visit to CR everyone from Clerks on up shared some type of concern.
If you find all of this info, to be of no concern please let me know. Thanks.

[applepicks]

Bill,

Could you please give me the person who requested the name removal? I think all players should be able to identify the possible thieves in this case. I'll be the first to go ahead and say that Horizon as a whole is in deep finacial trouble. You of all people should have a inkling to what is going on at this book. The book has gone downhill and with a quickness.

[VBOMBER]

So does Horizon = Atlas?

[applepicks]

So does Horizon = Atlas?

Bethorizon
Betatlas
betbyinternet
724sports

and some others are under the Horizon umbrella.

[tomcowley]

Well, now it's my turn to see how it goes. I had money in there before this post started, and I just finished a really long rollover. I requested a payout today and was told it was going to be in a couple of steps, which is pretty standard for the amount involved (~25k). I'll update as things happen (or don't happen, but I'm trying to think positively )

[Mudcat]

I certainly wish you the best, and am interested in your updates.

I hope you like Carla because, if your experience is anything like mine and that of some others, you will be spending a lot of time talking to her and chasing after her.

But yeah, I would be interested in as much detail as you are willing to post regarding payout methods and such.

[tomcowley]

So far, choice of wire or check, and check had a lower fee ratio, so I asked for that. The P2P withdrawals had huge fee ratios (as always), so I didn't consider them.

[tomcowley]

I have a tracking number for my first check. If it arrives when it's supposed to, it'll be 3 weeks between my request and the time I have the check, which isn't the worst given the holidays. It wasn't the simplest thing I've ever dealt with, but it hasn't been ridiculous so far.

[bigboydan]

Keep us posted sir.

[playz]

any update of this? How is bethorizon/horizon group?

[Igetp2s]

I would stay away. I got paid in full, but it took forever and dozens and dozens of phone calls to make it happen.

[Scorpion]

I would stay away. I got paid in full, but it took forever and dozens and dozens of phone calls to make it happen.

Same happedn to me
too many lies and bullshit

[Peep]

wrong post.

[Mudcat]

I haven't used them since well before this thread. Sounds like nothing has changed.

[Mudcat]

Still rated B- I see. Good, minimal risk to players funds. Top 10% of all books.

Yeesh.

[applepicks]

Still rated B- I see. Good, minimal risk to players funds. Top 10% of all books.

Yeesh.

I've been warning people for at least a year on this book. This book is damn near broke and only paying with deposit money. No reserves AT ALL!!!

[charitableman]

this book called me today with a bonus offer. did they fix their payout issues? or what are your experiences playing with them? thanks in advance.

[BAUS]

Any news on this book recently?

BAUS

[Frank]

They sent all their players to Bethorizon

[BAUS]

How is BetHorizon then? They are cold calling with 100% FP offers with 60 day holds.

BAUS