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  • barcelonafc
    SBR Sharp
    • 02-16-11
    • 428

    #281
    thank fuk im not a yank and dont get treated like a total bitch like you lot, my money is safe, im simply saying yes there is a lot of money involved in the us market but these book owners could face prison, is it worth it? they are nothing more than crooks.
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    • Monte
      SBR MVP
      • 08-21-10
      • 2056

      #282
      Dark Horse, all he is saying that they will have to stop soon.
      Which is nothing but true, iam sure Pinny didn't like it but they saw it coming.

      He is not saying everyone will loose their money.
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      • fury
        Restricted User
        • 02-20-10
        • 1651

        #283
        Originally posted by barcelonafc
        thank fuk im not a yank and dont get treated like a total bitch like you lot, my money is safe, im simply saying yes there is a lot of money involved in the us market but these book owners could face prison, is it worth it? they are nothing more than crooks.
        None of these book owners will step foot on US soil again. What do they have to be worried about?
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        • MUHerd37
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 10-23-09
          • 12816

          #284
          There will always be books for U.S. players. There is too much money available for there not to be. Drugs are illegal in the U.S., you seeing any shortages?
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          • Hareeba!
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 07-01-06
            • 37208

            #285
            Originally posted by MUHerd37
            There will always be books for U.S. players. There is too much money available for there not to be. Drugs are illegal in the U.S., you seeing any shortages?
            Perhaps so but the dangers are starting to become to great to have funds with books which are subject to having their bank accounts seized wherever they are.
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            • Ruifgalmeida
              SBR MVP
              • 04-23-08
              • 2024

              #286
              bookmaker and dsi show no fear so I think there is hope for US players
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              • thespeculator
                SBR MVP
                • 09-09-08
                • 2999

                #287
                these books are very creative and always seem to find a way to get things done,
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                • Milkin' it Slowly
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 10-18-06
                  • 145

                  #288
                  Soo let me get this straight... 2-4 years of undercover work and all that was really seized was BetEd. Ha ha. Sure they got the poker sites but thats what they were really after. And because UB shared a proccessor with bookmaker and beted they got nabbed. Bookmaker's mirror site was up and running before the ink dried from the fukkin stamp an the indictment. Thats A+... Beted should be embarrassed. Hope peeps who had $$$ with them get it back soon. you'll get your chance. I believe the feds have 48 hrs. to make a move before they have to release it.
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                  • Enkhbat
                    SBR MVP
                    • 04-18-11
                    • 3145

                    #289
                    what is the new domain for diamond sports?
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                    • thegreen
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 02-15-09
                      • 199

                      #290
                      Originally posted by barcelonafc
                      they are seizing bank accounts in other countries so they can basically do what they want, no book is safe now and I think these books have to pull out the us market.

                      the fbi read these sites so we will see how long bookmaker's new website lasts.

                      I have been warning folks...These illegal books that launder money and commit fraud are doomed in the US and so are the funds of any player that is on those sites!!! If you are a NON US player stay away from any SCAM BOOK like 5dimes that risks your funds by choosing to accept US players. if you are in US and play offshore your funds are always at risk either by the FEDS or the SCAM books who will steal your funds eventually!! Days of Your Funds being safe is OVER....and they can go BYE BYE any time!!!
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                      • vitalyo
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-05-07
                        • 1615

                        #291
                        Originally posted by Monte
                        Pinny made the correct decision light years before everyone else, as usual.
                        Either these books fancy living the life of outlaws, or they pull out as well
                        Pinny is one of the best known books and has a strong base of players around the world.Where most of the US based books(i say 90%) are not competitive on the worldwide market and pulling out of US market would be suicidal .

                        GL.
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                        • thegreen
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 02-15-09
                          • 199

                          #292
                          Originally posted by Dark Horse
                          People here have a lot of money in those accounts.

                          So unless you know what you're talking about, which so far you don't seem to, why don't you just shut the f*ck up?


                          Any one with money any good amount of money best pull it out ASAP and hope they get it!!! These offshore books who cater to US are doomed!! -670 that 90% of them pull out by year end or are shut down!!!The smart one got out Pinny!!! even crap ones are pulling out faster then you can say 5dimes casino is a scam!!!
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                          • John Dough
                            SBR MVP
                            • 09-21-05
                            • 1785

                            #293
                            Originally posted by thegreen
                            Any one with money any good amount of money best pull it out ASAP and hope they get it!!! These offshore books who cater to US are doomed!! -670 that 90% of them pull out by year end or are shut down!!!The smart one got out Pinny!!! even crap ones are pulling out faster then you can say 5dimes casino is a scam!!!
                            Can I take the other side for the max that 90% of books do not exit the US market by the end of the year?

                            I don't understand the pleasure you get from repeatedly making posts like this. Surely you have already withdrawn all your funds based on your opinions, so why are still hanging around SBR? If you think the industry is dead, time to get a new hobby, no?
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                            • zjohnzzz
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 09-15-10
                              • 517

                              #294
                              too much cash to be had, there always will be away around the u.s. archaic laws. other countries wont be to eager to part with there dollars either. or tolerate the u.s. trampling in there business. quite frankly i think the canadians are the ones that are going to tell the u.s. authorities to $%^ off.
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                              • thegreen
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 02-15-09
                                • 199

                                #295
                                Originally posted by John Dough
                                Can I take the other side for the max that 90% of books do not exit the US market by the end of the year?

                                I don't understand the pleasure you get from repeatedly making posts like this. Surely you have already withdrawn all your funds based on your opinions, so why are still hanging around SBR? If you think the industry is dead, time to get a new hobby, no?



                                You won't be saying that when you try to log in and site says domain seized by DOJ....You are warned....FYI it will be regulated in US very soon without these SCAM books ripping people off and commuting to fraud.
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                                • Monte
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 08-21-10
                                  • 2056

                                  #296
                                  Originally posted by vitalyo
                                  Pinny is one of the best known books and has a strong base of players around the world.Where most of the US based books(i say 90%) are not competitive on the worldwide market and pulling out of US market would be suicidal .

                                  GL.
                                  Depends, true of course for the small "recreational" books living from US squares.
                                  But Bookmaker and the Greek most likely have many big players outside the US, just like Pinny, or whales who could easily set up an account from outside the states.

                                  Not to be underestimated is the theory that some of those big players might welcome if they leave the US market, for their safety.
                                  Easy to be kind of scared if you have large amounts at a book that is in the radar of the DOJ.
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                                  • thegreen
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 02-15-09
                                    • 199

                                    #297
                                    Originally posted by barcelonafc
                                    spreading fear? are u that addicted to gambling?

                                    Spreading Fear....LOL More like passing on important information!!!!!Some clowns on here must be shills working for the SCAM books....this news needs to spread to everyone so they can withdrawal there funds ASAP if they choose. This is very important to let people know what is going down so they can take action and withdrawal and not deposit if they choose to keep there hard eared money safe!!!
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                                    • thegreen
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 02-15-09
                                      • 199

                                      #298
                                      Official DOJ Information and sites Nailed!!

                                      Just when you thought it was over, another 10 internet gambling sites were seized in the United States on Monday. This time, according to a U.S. Department of Justice press release, the primary domain names of Bookmaker.com, 2Betsdi.com, Fun Time Bingo, Golden Arch Casino, True Poker, Betmaker.com, Bet Grande Sports, DoylesRoom, Bet E-Horse, and BetEd were targeted.

                                      Trying to access these domain names yields Department of Justice and Homeland Security Investigation Special Agent shields similar to those found on Black Friday. Text below the two shields explains, “This domain has been seized by the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement – Homeland Security Investigations, Office of the Special Agent in Charge, Baltimore, MD, in accordance with a warrant obtained with the assistance of the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Maryland.”

                                      U.S. Attorney Rod Rosenstein commented in a press release on Monday, “It is illegal for internet gambling enterprises to do business in Maryland, regardless of where the website operator is located. We cannot allow foreign website operators to flout the law simply because their headquarters are based outside the country.”

                                      William Winter, Special Agent in Charge of Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Homeland Security Investigations, added, “The proceeds from illegal internet gambling are often used to fuel organized crime and support criminal activity.”

                                      In a slight difference from the Black Friday indictments, the involvement of online wagering on sports appears to be at least partly involved. The same press release charged, “The indictments allege that the defendants own and manage illegal gambling businesses involving online sports betting.” The contents of 11 bank accounts spread across five countries was frozen.

                                      DoylesRoom namesake Doyle Brunson (pictured) stepped away from the site in recent days. However, his name and face continued to grace the online poker room’s website. Moreover, according to DoylesRoom’s CEO, the eight members of the DoylesRoom Brunson 10 were each having their contracts renegotiated; how today’s news affects the group of up-and-coming poker stars remains to be seen.

                                      As part of today’s indictments, ThrillX Systems (BetEd), Darren Wright, K23 Group Financial Services (*****************), and Ann Marie Puig all were charged. Allegedly, according to the indictments, “ThrillX… is a software solutions provider producing online sports book and casino software. BMX Entertainment… operates six websites that offer online sports betting services.”

                                      The sting involved the U.S. Government opening a payment processing company dubbed Linwood Payment Solutions. The company then made contact with the “top managers of gambling organizations to discuss the internet gambling business, to negotiate contracts and terms of the processing, and to handle the intricate movement and processing of collection and payment data from the gambling organizations to the banks.”

                                      The Feds allegedly then gave $500 to an online gambler located in Maryland. “The gambler created an account on a BetEd website and placed several bets,” the press release heralded. “On March 30, 2010, BetEd used Linwood to wire transfer $100 in winnings to the gambler’s bank account.” As part of the undercover operation, Linwood Payment Solutions paid out over $35 million in a 14-month period.

                                      Each defendant faces up to 25 years behind bars on charges of operating an illegal gambling business and money laundering. DoylesRoom and True Poker make their home on the Yatahay Network.

                                      According to its website, PaymentProcessingSolutions.com, Linwood Payment Solutions offers payroll services, payroll tax services, check printing, check distribution, year-end services, payment services, and garnishment services, among other products. Its contact telephone number is based in New Jersey and its website was created in 2009.

                                      Today’s indictments were sealed on April 26th. Eleven days prior to that, the domain names belonging to PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker, Absolute Poker, and UB were seized in the United States. The founders of these sites and their associated payment processors were indicted on charges that included money laundering and violating the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act, or UIGEA.
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                                      • Ninersnut
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 05-20-10
                                        • 3730

                                        #299
                                        Hold up whats happening here?
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                                        • aceking
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 09-07-05
                                          • 4782

                                          #300
                                          ouch!
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                                          • floridagolfer
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-19-08
                                            • 2757

                                            #301
                                            Logged onto the new site with no problems whatsoever.

                                            This, however, does get me PO'd. I'm sure there are more serious problems the federal government could be dealing with.
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                                            • Johnny 55
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 05-16-09
                                              • 1079

                                              #302
                                              What are the two new domain names for diamond and bookmaker, also, betmaker. thx.
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                                              • mighty maron
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 04-20-09
                                                • 4215

                                                #303
                                                thegreek.eu appears to be taken...I wonder if this is there backup domain?
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                                                • mighty maron
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 04-20-09
                                                  • 4215

                                                  #304
                                                  Now I get this message when I go to bookmaker.com

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                                                  • mighty maron
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 04-20-09
                                                    • 4215

                                                    #305
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                                                    • SBR Lou
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 08-02-07
                                                      • 37863

                                                      #306
                                                      Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                                      Perhaps so but the dangers are starting to become to great to have funds with books which are subject to having their bank accounts seized wherever they are.
                                                      This emphasizes the need to play with well established sportsbooks. The industry's best sportsbooks can shake off processors going down, because all their eggs are never close to being in one basket. You guys now also see why processor terms are edited or in some cases deleted when posted publicly.
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                                                      • mighty maron
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 04-20-09
                                                        • 4215

                                                        #307
                                                        Originally posted by Lou
                                                        This emphasizes the need to play with well established sportsbooks. The industry's best sportsbooks can shake off processors going down, because all their eggs are never close to being in one basket. You guys now also see why processor terms are edited or in some cases deleted when posted publicly.
                                                        you are right. I had thought that the deletion of processors were panic driven in the past but after april and yesterday...it was a prudent move.

                                                        Shame that the US wont honor the WTO ruling that went against them by Antigua but have to balls to go out and do this. Shame on you US government....
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                                                        • teecee
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 09-18-09
                                                          • 6298

                                                          #308
                                                          Originally posted by konck
                                                          But we will be taxed

                                                          it's not like you are earning the money. you are clicking boxes, bud. i dislike more, the fact that the gov't dips into my paycheck, before i ever see anything. now that's b/s.
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                                                          • korbal29
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 10-25-09
                                                            • 751

                                                            #309
                                                            the point is US can do whatever they want if they feel like going after every single sportsbbok that cater to us players
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                                                            • John Dough
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-21-05
                                                              • 1785

                                                              #310
                                                              Originally posted by thegreen
                                                              Spreading Fear....LOL More like passing on important information!!!!!Some clowns on here must be shills working for the SCAM books....this news needs to spread to everyone so they can withdrawal there funds ASAP if they choose. This is very important to let people know what is going down so they can take action and withdrawal and not deposit if they choose to keep there hard eared money safe!!!
                                                              You're not passing on info, you're passing on your own personal opinion, which is that everyone should panic. Everyone has read what happened and there's more than enough information available all over SBR and other venues for people to read and form their own opinions.

                                                              Do you not understand that you repeatedly screaming "Get your money out now, every site is going under!" is not actual helpful?
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                                                              • goldengreek
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 09-25-07
                                                                • 8340

                                                                #311
                                                                Originally posted by firehoyt
                                                                Any idea if diamond has an alternate site set up?! If u know it, will you PM me?
                                                                take the 2 out

                                                                its now www.betdsi.com
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                                                                • robertg
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 02-02-09
                                                                  • 643

                                                                  #312
                                                                  new website, same shitty customer service, same ridiculous juice, same non-english speaking clerks.

                                                                  Bookmaker has my permission to use this for advertising campaigns.
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                                                                  • firehoyt
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 12-02-10
                                                                    • 3569

                                                                    #313
                                                                    jjgold. You really think you have any credibility left with anyone left posting at SBR?! No one puts any faith in anything you have to say!
                                                                    Last edited by firehoyt; 05-24-11, 10:00 AM.
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                                                                    • CLASSIC ROCK
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 07-23-09
                                                                      • 574

                                                                      #314
                                                                      take a deep breath guys,panic and fear is not the way to go here
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                                                                      • firehoyt
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 12-02-10
                                                                        • 3569

                                                                        #315
                                                                        Originally posted by goldengreek
                                                                        take the 2 out

                                                                        its now www.betdsi.com
                                                                        What sucks is their mobile site doesn't work anymore. When you try going to betdsi.com or .net on my phone it automatically kicks it over to the m.2betdsi.
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