InstantActionSports confiscates winnings, earned bonuses

**questa** · 06-07-08, 03:37 AM

Fantastic! Thats great news, you guys are great, I should have never doubted your ability! Another victory for fairness and players and the rep of the industry, thanks again!!!!!!!!!

**beanieman** · 06-07-08, 04:34 AM

SBR rock! Thank you guys ever so much.

One thing though, i filed my complaint last thursday and since haven't had any direct communication with either SBR or instant action sports. Will they pay automatically (i had requested a withdrawal last tuesday) or do i need to contact them again to get payment.

**Bill Dozer** · 06-07-08, 07:49 AM

Beanie,

You should have received an email, same as the one reg'd on forum, confirming we have received your complaint on 5/30. We do have your acct. ID on the list.

IAS is expected to apply the decision to all accts but we will be following up with all affected acct holders.

**questa** · 06-07-08, 10:38 AM

My account still reads zero - should we be hassling them, or just be patient for now??

**sticky** · 06-07-08, 11:39 AM

Just received my first payout by moneybookers, Bill/Dan thankyou SO much guys, you truely are wonderful.

**beanieman** · 06-07-08, 01:07 PM

Originally posted by Bill Dozer

You should have received an email, same as the one reg'd on forum, confirming we have received your complaint on 5/30. We do have your acct. ID on the list.

Sorry Bill - should have said i'd not communicated with anyone directly since getting the sbr email.

questa - my account still shows the full balance. They never deducted it after i requested a withdrawal. Still no sign of withdrawal but its the weekend do i imagine it will take some time.

**Bill Dozer** · 06-07-08, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by sticky

Just received my first payout by moneybookers, Bill/Dan thankyou SO much guys, you truely are wonderful.

Thanks for the update Sticky. Glad to see it begin to be official.

**Bill Dozer** · 06-07-08, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by beanieman

Sorry Bill - should have said i'd not communicated with anyone directly since getting the sbr email.

questa - my account still shows the full balance. They never deducted it after i requested a withdrawal. Still no sign of withdrawal but its the weekend do i imagine it will take some time.

No problem Beanie. Email or call the office at 830-515-4122 anytime.

I was told today that they processed some requests. It's probably a good idea to make a new request now that there is no question about what is available. Look for verification on Monday.

**Bill Dozer** · 06-07-08, 01:48 PM

Originally posted by questa

My account still reads zero - should we be hassling them, or just be patient for now??

questa,

You took a payout of the debited balance and that is why you are at zero now correct?

Shoot them a request to update your account so you can request another payout. CC Help@SportsbookReview.com so we can follow for your file.

There shouldn't be additional fees unless you hit your max payout previously.

**beanieman** · 06-07-08, 04:52 PM

I've just recieved my full payout. Thanks ever so much guys - its so much appreciated!

**bigboydan** · 06-07-08, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by beanieman

I've just recieved my full payout. Thanks ever so much guys - its so much appreciated!

Glad to hear it sir. I will make a note of this as well as sticky's payment.

**trotter9** · 06-07-08, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by beanieman

I've just recieved my full payout. Thanks ever so much guys - its so much appreciated!

you guys are great just got mine also thanks

**Bill Dozer** · 06-08-08, 01:33 AM

Thanks trotter.

**gryzonko** · 06-08-08, 03:45 AM

IAS has adjusted bonus from my account

Hello
Today I have received a mail from Miss Cathy Jones (IAS client services). Please read.

I would like to communicate you that after thorough analysis of your account, management has decided that you did not use the bonus granted as part of the Moneybookers 50% Promotion for recreational means.

In accordance to our rules in regards to Bonuses, Promotions and Free Plays specifically, bonuses are intended for recreational players only, professional players, syndicates, or players deemed by Instant Action Sports’ Management to be abusing the bonus system by any means may have their bonuses, and the winnings from these bonuses, revoked at discretion.

In your case, we have decided that the bonus received will be revoked. In detail the bonus amount that will be revoked is €500, at the moment you have a current balance of €3453. Please contact our client services department for further information.

I have checked account. They adjusted bonus from my account. I have already made €5944 rollover ( 40% required rollover), betting mostly on soccer AHC ( Italy and MLS) and MLB. No abnormal lines, no mistakes - odds not much higher than average market. Here is full history of my accout.

In my opinion - it is ridiculous. They have offer a bonus with really huge rollover, so everyone who made €15000 rollover are risking to not be a recreational player! . If you lost your money - exelent! you are recreational player, you are welcome for next promotion! If you get some winnings, IAS can revoke a bonus, or even a winnings. It is scam sportbook.

What is your suggestion to do? I have read this topic, and I am really concerned with my money. Now IAS has "only" stolen bonus from my account - €500 not small money, but my accout balance is much higher.

regards Gryzonko

**questa** · 06-08-08, 06:44 AM

Still havent paid me, I spoke to live chat about 12 hours ago who said it would be sent in due course...

**Santo** · 06-08-08, 07:26 AM

gryz: You might want to hide your account # from those screenshots

**tomcowley** · 06-08-08, 08:23 AM

Sorry for giving them ideas. SBR didn't discuss prorating the bonus?

**gryzonko** · 06-08-08, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by Santo

gryz: You might want to hide your account # from those screenshots

Thanks Friend, I did it.

**jon99** · 06-08-08, 06:07 PM

I am in the same position as gryzonko :

Mr. *********:

I would like to communicate you that after thorough analysis of your account, management has decided that you did not use the bonus granted as part of the 50% Moneybookers Promotion for recreational means.

In accordance to our rules in regards to Bonuses, Promotions and Free Plays specifically, bonuses are intended for recreational players only, professional players, syndicates, or players deemed by Instant Action Sports’ Management to be abusing the bonus system by any means may have their bonuses, and the winnings from these bonuses, revoked at discretion.

In your case, we have decided that the bonus received will be revoked and that the winnings resulting from that bonus will be revoked as well which will cause for you to receive only the money profited from the deposit you made.

In detail the bonus amount that will be revoked is £400, at the moment you have a current balance of £2639. Please contact our client services department if you have further doubts.

I opened the account on 22/05/08 and have since placed 18 bets , 7 winners , 4 losers and 7 still running with a total wagering of £ 2955 so far.

I am wondering if I should just accept that they have classed me as non recreational and take the balance out and forget about the bonus that has been revoked.

**Bill Dozer** · 06-08-08, 06:16 PM

IAS mentioned yesterday that there would be some more players coming forward after word of the corrections.
Jon and Gry,
Is it possible these were sent before the weekend?

**jon99** · 06-08-08, 06:18 PM

mine was sent sun 08/06/08 12;23 am

i received it this morning , sunday

i have just been onto livechat and they are definately revoking my bonus :

Please wait for a site operator to respond.
You are now chatting with 'paulcs'
paulcs: Hello, how may I assist you today?
you: HI
you: i have received an email saying that my bonus has been revoked
paulcs: Hi!
you: can you please tell me why this is
paulcs: Thank you very much.
you: so far i have placed 18 bets , 7 winners , 4 losers and 7 still running
paulcs: Allow me to check this from the accounting department.
you: ok
paulcs: Please hold on a second.
paulcs: Be back shortly.
paulcs: According to the accounting department
paulcs: the management decided to revoked the bonus you received through Moneybookers promotion
paulcs: Due to a reason that you did not use the bonus granted as part of the 50% Moneybookers Promotion for recreational means.
paulcs: and I think this is the email that you received from them
you: can you please explain what that means so that i can explain this to sportsbook review who have told me that all bonuses will be honoured
paulcs: In accordance to our rules in regards to Bonuses, Promotions and Free Plays specifically, bonuses are intended for recreational players only, professional players, syndicates, or players deemed by Instant Action Sports’ Management to be abusing the bonus system by any means may have their bonuses, and the winnings from these bonuses, revoked at discretion.

**gryzonko** · 06-08-08, 06:34 PM

Originally posted by jon99

mine was sent sun 08/06/08 12;23 am

i received it this morning , sunday

I have received email almost the same time - Miss Cathy Jones sent email to me 8th june 2008 2:27 am central european time. I suppose - IAS has revoked bonus from many accounts this weekend

IAS managment was just looking for accounts balance, and "shooting" to everyone who has won too much.

**tomcowley** · 06-08-08, 06:35 PM

They're on the freeroll plan. If a player is winning, now they just steal the entire bonus before rollover is fully met (they only promised not to steal it AFTER rollover was met, right???). The only time they "pay" the bonus is when the player has already lost it to them- and if the player goes busto (including bonus), redeposits, and then wins before hitting rollover, they'll probably steal it back anyway.

Good luck getting them to agree to prorate bonuses and to never steal/prorate one after an account busted the bonus.

**Thremp** · 06-09-08, 12:03 AM

So they're taking shots instead of outright scamming people?

Awesome.

**mathdotcom** · 06-09-08, 12:20 AM

I got a payout from IAS about 2 weeks ago of just under $3000. Payout was quick but stiff w/d fee of $60

**gryzonko** · 06-09-08, 12:51 AM

Bill my suggestion to negotiate with IAs is:
- credit accounts with part od bonus, percentaged to finished rollover
- allow to withdrawn all account balance immediately
- close accounts "non recreational" players and say goodbye

Finishing rollover now to get all bonus is too risky. There are no guarantee to respect our winnings, so any bonus is not worth to continue play in this poor sportbook.
Yesterday I asked IAS support who is recreational in his opinion

So using betbrain to compare odds, for IAS it is bonus abusing.
Laught or cry?

**bigloser** · 06-09-08, 04:52 PM

I dont see this problem as resolved. What is SBRs view?

The book has scared the players by confiscating winnings and is now hoping the players will be grateful when they just confiscate a legitimately earned bonus.

Is SBR still working on this or do they see it as case closed?

**Bill Dozer** · 06-09-08, 05:06 PM

It seems all the people who had winning bets and bonuses canceled after finishing their rolls requested a withdrawal and found they had a complaint when it was refused. Those players are now cashing out in full.

Since, it looks like IAS is pursuing bonus funds where the roll-overs aren't finished. Obviously seeking out winning accounts and canceling the promo that the player invested in is not fair and we will discuss with IAS further.

**Bill Dozer** · 06-09-08, 05:17 PM

I spoke with IAS Fred. The players that have not completed the rollover will be prorated the cash bonus. So, a guy who completed half the rollover on a $50 bonus would receive $25.

It may be taken care of now, but these additional players are welcome to email IAS and CC Help@Sportsbookreview.com. Please put your account ID in the subject field along with the the text "prorate bonus".

**Thremp** · 06-09-08, 07:06 PM

This is so ridiculous.

**Bill Dozer** · 06-09-08, 07:39 PM

Yea, IAS is roughing you guys up for sure. Hopefully this is the tail end of this incident.

**gryzonko** · 06-10-08, 02:39 AM

Originally posted by Bill Dozer

I spoke with IAS Fred. The players that have not completed the rollover will be prorated the cash bonus. So, a guy who completed half the rollover on a $50 bonus would receive $25.

It may be taken care of now, but these additional players are welcome to email IAS and CC Help@Sportsbookreview.com. Please put your account ID in the subject field along with the the text "prorate bonus".

It is good news.
I have just sent email

**Bill Dozer** · 06-10-08, 01:25 PM

I see that prorated bonuses are being credited to accounts now.

**gryzonko** · 06-10-08, 02:34 PM

Correct Bill.

good work

I have just made withdrawal request via livechat, I have requested payout of all my account balance.

btw. they are just a cheaters, and cheat all the time.
The feeas are:
$50 or less → $1
$50 to $999 → 2% of the amount
$1000 to 2500 → $30
$2501 to 5000 → $60
My fee of course was not equivalent of 60$, but my fee was €60, so over 50% more.
Every occassion is good for IAS to steal a few $

**Bill Dozer** · 06-10-08, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by gryzonko

Correct Bill.

good work

I have just made withdrawal request via livechat, I have requested payout of all my account balance.

btw. they are just a cheaters, and cheat all the time.
The feeas are:
$50 or less → $1
$50 to $999 → 2% of the amount
$1000 to 2500 → $30
$2501 to 5000 → $60
My fee of course was not equivalent of 60$, but my fee was €60, so over 50% more.
Every occassion is good for IAS to steal a few $

Send another email please...hopefully before they process the transfer.