Betmaker Review - In progress

[todd73nj]

even Pinnacle suffered a DDOS attack no so long back
MB wasn't down for "days" - just more Todd lies
no book serving the US is safe enough for me thanks - that gives MB a massive head start - they are an A book by my rating

MB had days of no use time when they couldnt get their ****.

They are poorly managed, and a risk, and thus rated by the SBR

[Johnnythunder]

I've seen Matchbook down for at least a day and maybe 2 about 2.5 years ago. It was ridiculous and they used to go down at least once a month for a long stretch. The book was run like garbage. We only praised it because the odds were good.

[Hareeba!]

I've seen Matchbook down for at least a day and maybe 2 about 2.5 years ago. It was ridiculous and they used to go down at least once a month for a long stretch. The book was run like garbage. We only praised it because the odds were good.

FYI Matchbook has been under new ownership/management for 8 months with very little disruption to service in that time. Pinnacle suffers far more regular disruptions.

[Hareeba!]

MB had days of no use time when they couldnt get their ****.

They are poorly managed, and a risk, and thus rated by the SBR

Other than your continual bleating about being slow paid after the takeover (nothing to do with being a risk ... every account holder continued to get paid promptly) what evidence do you have for your statements about them being a risk?

[jizay]

Temple at Ohio is open for live trading. First college game that I'm aware of. They didn't make any sort of announcement, but hopefully people find it.

[QQPALLADIUM]

FYI Matchbook has been under new ownership/management for 8 months with very little disruption to service in that time. Pinnacle suffers far more regular disruptions.

of course we should take your word at face value...you would have been a great german in the 1930's...

[unclebuzz1]

of course we should take your word at face value...you would have been a great german in the 1930's...

Actually, I was thinking that if Hareeba still plays there then he has the best idea of what's going on there now.

As for me, I'm done with this thread. It has nothing but non-productive personal attacks. Somebody PM me if anything good comes out of Betmaker. It'll never support live betting unless a market maker is found and I don't believe there will ever be one. GL

[Hareeba!]

of course we should take your word at face value...you would have been a great german in the 1930's...

another childishly dumb post

I don't care at all what you believe but there are plenty more intelligent beings who read these threads .... example the previous post

[QQPALLADIUM]

these aren't personal attacks...prove anything you say...how do we know you gamble...because you said so...please...mb has no volume numbers...what if the nyse had none...what kind of exchange would it be...8 months under new mgmt...still no other currencies..

[Hareeba!]

these aren't personal attacks...prove anything you say...how do we know you gamble...because you said so...please...mb has no volume numbers...what if the nyse had none...what kind of exchange would it be...8 months under new mgmt...still no other currencies..

you're right I don't "gamble".

[QQPALLADIUM]

but you are a great message board poster....

[Hareeba!]

but you are a great message board poster....

I'll take that as a compliment.
Thank you.

[QQPALLADIUM]

[todd73nj]

Other than your continual bleating about being slow paid after the takeover (nothing to do with being a risk ... every account holder continued to get paid promptly) what evidence do you have for your statements about them being a risk?

Evidence? Well - they were rated the same as BetEd for years.

Need any more evidence? If you dont believe SBR ratings, why be here?

No US players were promptyl paid - bec they had no money. They needed 60 days to do so. And dont give me the process issues excuse - Because name an A rated book that struggles to pay someone. All of them can have you an expedited check within 5 days. No issues. But not Matchbook. They need to refund it to a CC - but they need 60 says to complete an electronic transaction. Laughable.

[todd73nj]

you're right I don't "gamble".

but you are a great message board poster....

He just makes thousands, like 95% of the rest of the people on here claim - with no proof of their own

[Hareeba!]

Evidence? Well - they were rated the same as BetEd for years.

Need any more evidence? If you dont believe SBR ratings, why be here?

No US players were promptyl paid - bec they had no money. They needed 60 days to do so. And dont give me the process issues excuse - Because name an A rated book that struggles to pay someone. All of them can have you an expedited check within 5 days. No issues. But not Matchbook. They need to refund it to a CC - but they need 60 says to complete an electronic transaction. Laughable.

Many SBR ratings are very questionable.
I don't come here for their ratings.

What I said is that I've never heard of an account holder being slow paid. NEVER.
You are talking about former account holders.
Where's your evidence that they have no money?
I understand 5D is A rated by SBR. Plenty of howling going on about not getting paid within 5 days (and more).

[Hareeba!]

He just makes thousands, like 95% of the rest of the people on here claim - with no proof of their own

I challenge you to show where I've ever made any statements about how much I make.

There is no need for me to prove how much I make because it is utterly irrelevant to any points I've been making in my arguments with you. TOTALLY AND UTTERLY IRRELEVANT.

Where's the proof of how much you make? Not that I give a flying rat's arse.

[unclebuzz1]

Scroll all the way to the bottom. Read rating changes from the bottom up.

Betmaker ... http://www.sportsbookreview.com/sbr/betmaker/

Bookmaker ... http://www.sportsbookreview.com/sbr/bookmaker/

Matchbook ... http://www.sportsbookreview.com/sbr/matchbook/

WSEX ... http://www.sportsbookreview.com/sbr/wsex/

.

[QQPALLADIUM]

I challenge you to show where I've ever made any statements about how much I make.

There is no need for me to prove how much I make because it is utterly irrelevant to any points I've been making in my arguments with you. TOTALLY AND UTTERLY IRRELEVANT.

Where's the proof of how much you make? Not that I give a flying rat's arse.

todd.

hareeba is what i believe is called an arbitraguer...nothing wrong with that...but you can't make a lot doing it imo...

because inevitably you will run into a hot streak at a book and they will limit you...

i would say you could make about 30k a year...nothing wrong with that...but a lot of time must be spent in front of a computer

[Hareeba!]

todd.

hareeba is what i believe is called an arbitraguer...nothing wrong with that...but you can't make a lot doing it imo...

because inevitably you will run into a hot streak at a book and they will limit you...

i would say you could make about 30k a year...nothing wrong with that...but a lot of time must be spent in front of a computer

Once again you display how little you do know about my betting despite all your posts to the contrary.
Further than that you obviously don't read what I have posted many times.
I AM NOT AN ARBER.

[QQPALLADIUM]

that's right..i forgot...you are an ev+ bettor but not a gambler...i am too stupid to understand this how it works...but if it works for you good for you.

[todd73nj]

Many SBR ratings are very questionable.
I don't come here for their ratings.

What I said is that I've never heard of an account holder being slow paid. NEVER.
You are talking about former account holders.
Where's your evidence that they have no money?
I understand 5D is A rated by SBR. Plenty of howling going on about not getting paid within 5 days (and more).

I challenge you to show where I've ever made any statements about how much I make.

There is no need for me to prove how much I make because it is utterly irrelevant to any points I've been making in my arguments with you. TOTALLY AND UTTERLY IRRELEVANT.

Where's the proof of how much you make? Not that I give a flying rat's arse.

Go back to our original post buddy, before I knew that you were such an argumentative fool - when I thought you offered me good info, and I asked you for a link so I could read about it.

Speaking of proof - you still never provided that.

And if an SBR rating isnt good enough for you - what is?

THEY SLOW PAYED ME!! 4 months for less than 10,000. Many others. Its posted up.

But thats not good enough for you either.

[Hareeba!]

Go back to our original post buddy, before I knew that you were such an argumentative fool - when I thought you offered me good info, and I asked you for a link so I could read about it.

Speaking of proof - you still never provided that.

And if an SBR rating isnt good enough for you - what is?

THEY SLOW PAYED ME!! 4 months for less than 10,000. Many others. Its posted up.

But thats not good enough for you either.

Precisely what proof are you expecting me to provide that has any relevance?

So where did you find "our original post"?
What did I say? I simply don't believe you've found any such post where I stated how much I was making. Prove me wrong or apologise.

With the assistance of a very knowledgable gent I make up my own mind on bookie ratings. SBR's appear to pay no attention to bookies' financials and solvency.

So all you have to go on in claiming MB doesn't have any money is that as a former account holder of the previous operator you were slow paid? That's it? You conveniently ignore the fact that there's never been a report of a slow or no-pay by a real customer?

[todd73nj]

Precisely what proof are you expecting me to provide that has any relevance? So where did you find "our original post"? What did I say? I simply don't believe you've found any such post where I stated how much I was making. Prove me wrong or apologise. With the assistance of a very knowledgable gent I make up my own mind on bookie ratings. SBR's appear to pay no attention to bookies' financials and solvency. So all you have to go on in claiming MB doesn't have any money is that as a former account holder of the previous operator you were slow paid? That's it? You conveniently ignore the fact that there's never been a report of a slow or no-pay by a real customer?

So you and your civil partner make up sports book rating together now too? Who is it? Relaxxx? Dome-r? If one of those guys is left out, you should consider bringing him in and making a triumverate!

And I forgot, none of the guys who didnt get their $5,000 in a quick period of time are real players. Its the un-documaent big timers tht matter, the ones who claim they make money and know people, and know so much more about everything lol
You are a riot.

[relaaxx]

So you and your civil partner make up sports book rating together now too? Who is it? Relaxxx? Dome-r? If one of those guys is left out, you should consider bringing him in and making a triumverate!

And I forgot, none of the guys who didnt get their $5,000 in a quick period of time are real players. Its the un-documaent big timers tht matter, the ones who claim they make money and know people, and know so much more about everything lol
You are a riot.

todd you are still an ass. just making up shit as you go. hareeba, arguing with a fool is a waste of time. we have both wasted too much time with this particular fool. he is always going back and forth with someone. exagerating everything. saying nothing. stating false nonsense. haven't read a word of this thread in weeks. it's like a soap. nothing ever changes. be back in a month.it will be the same. hareeba you seem like you have more sense than most. you must be able to see than going to todd's level is just nonsense. but on the other hand. i am here again posting about this idiot, instead of just posting about sports and sportsbooks.

[Hareeba!]

So you and your civil partner make up sports book rating together now too? Who is it? Relaxxx? Dome-r? If one of those guys is left out, you should consider bringing him in and making a triumverate!

And I forgot, none of the guys who didnt get their $5,000 in a quick period of time are real players. Its the un-documaent big timers tht matter, the ones who claim they make money and know people, and know so much more about everything lol
You are a riot.

Yeah, don't ever bother answering the questions .. obviously too tough or not favourable to you ... far easier to just post more crap ... Relaax is right.

[QQPALLADIUM]

todd is a real gambler...whether he wins or not i don't know...but he is big time...you two are just pitcher/catcher and vice versa

[Hareeba!]

todd is a real gambler...whether he wins or not i don't know...but he is big time...you two are just pitcher/catcher and vice versa

No, I don't know either and I care even less.

And I doubt you know any more about his betting than you do mine, which patently obviously is zilch.

Why do you have to keep butting in to every thread I post in without making any sort of attempt at a contribution to the discussion, instead offering just more childish insults?

[QQPALLADIUM]

you boast about everything but back it up with nada...that's why

[Hareeba!]

you boast about everything but back it up with nada...that's why

What have I ever boasted about?

Just post a single example
Just one "boast".
Just one.

Bet you can't.

[QQPALLADIUM]

With the assistance of a very knowledgable gent I make up my own mind on bookie ratings.

if that is not a boast i don't know what one is

[Hareeba!]

With the assistance of a very knowledgable gent I make up my own mind on bookie ratings.

if that is not a boast i don't know what one is

you can't be serious?
you don't know the meaning of the word
making up my own mind is "boasting" ... absurd
do you rely solely on SBR's ratings to grade your books?
you'd be in a very small minority if you did

further, that was a post I made only yesterday
what is your excuse for all the insults and nonsense you've being posting about me for months?

[QQPALLADIUM]

why are you here?

to faux post about:
your many xfers
your know it all attitude regarding each and every book
your ability to not play at books that slow pay or close
your trading
mb liquidity with no proof of any trades
i can go on

[Hareeba!]

why are you here?

to faux post about:
your many xfers
your know it all attitude regarding each and every book
your ability to not play at books that slow pay or close
your trading
mb liquidity with no proof of any trades
i can go on

far more to the point why are you here?
you may not agree with what I post (although it's hard to know because you never put forward any arguments against them - preferring insults) but, unlike you at least I do post on the subjects relevant to the thread
don't know what you're on about mostly there .. where have I ever said I am a trader?
it really isn't difficult to avoid books which are going under if you study what's going on .. I did actually get caught a bit by Bet247, though in the end did get my money
no idea what you mean by may xfers
go back and read the evidence of others who supported everything I've ever said about the odds and liquidity at MB .. you are calling us all liars when you don't have a bloody clue

and I'm sure you will go on .. and on .. and on .. and on ... but I won't be holding my breath for anything constructive

[QQPALLADIUM]

far more to the point why are you here?
you may not agree with what I post (although it's hard to know because you never put forward any arguments against them - preferring insults) but, unlike you at least I do post on the subjects relevant to the thread
don't know what you're on about mostly there .. where have I ever said I am a trader?
it really isn't difficult to avoid books which are going under if you study what's going on .. I did actually get caught a bit by Bet247, though in the end did get my money
no idea what you mean by may xfers
go back and read the evidence of others who supported everything I've ever said about the odds and liquidity at MB .. you are calling us all liars when you don't have a bloody clue

and I'm sure you will go on .. and on .. and on .. and on ... but I won't be holding my breath for anything constructive

i just think it is funny how much time and anger you waste on me...

all you do is have to admit defeat and i will leave you alone.