Betmaker Review - In progress

**todd73nj** · 09-02-11, 11:26 PM

Originally posted by bobbywaves

I doubt Heritage allows transfers to Betmaker, since Betmaker doesn't allow transfers to Heritage. Bookmaker & DSI allow free transfers to & from Betmaker, as it's the same family of books.

Waves, DSI is back in my program on my website. Finally changed the XML feed info.

**todd73nj** · 09-02-11, 11:29 PM

Originally posted by austin

it is the fact about bmaker. what you read in this thread is just hopeless attempts to encourage others to use bmaker and increase non-existent liquidity

Volume quotes are way understated. Make a trade for yourself and see. Plenty of volume.

**danger** · 09-03-11, 01:14 AM

> DSI is back in my program on my website. Finally changed the XML feed info.

Are you saying DSI has an XML feed? What is the url?

**todd73nj** · 09-03-11, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by danger

> DSI is back in my program on my website. Finally changed the XML feed info.

Are you saying DSI has an XML feed? What is the url?

When you create an affiliate account they provide it to you. I dont have the info personally, because my site has a programmer who does all that work.

**doesnotcompute** · 09-04-11, 09:12 AM

Not sure about other sports, but on MLB there is enough to get anything <$500 guaranteed. After that, the larger the amount, the less likely it is to get matched. I've seen some 40k MLs which just makes me laugh. Watched them throughout the day and only about 7k got matched.

**doesnotcompute** · 09-04-11, 09:14 AM

Is this a personal portal for yourself or something others can also look at? I'd be interested in viewing it

**todd73nj** · 09-04-11, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by doesnotcompute

Is this a personal portal for yourself or something others can also look at? I'd be interested in viewing it

Im confused at to what you are asking? You are asking about Betmaker?

**bobbywaves** · 09-04-11, 11:53 PM

Originally posted by todd73nj

Waves, DSI is back in my program on my website. Finally changed the XML feed info.

Thanks for the heads up Todd.

**BAUS** · 09-05-11, 03:10 PM

I tried to deposit here today, but they aren't accepting Moneybookers deposits.

CS said "We might start accepting Moneybookers deposits again in a month".

Figure it out Betmaker. How can you get much liquidity offering only P2P and CC deposit options?

BAUS

**bobbywaves** · 09-05-11, 10:36 PM

wire is a viable option which you left out.

**evo34** · 09-05-11, 10:46 PM

Originally posted by todd73nj

Volume quotes are way understated. Make a trade for yourself and see. Plenty of volume.

Makes sense. They purposefully programmed their system to under-represent actual volume?

**BAUS** · 09-05-11, 10:58 PM

Originally posted by bobbywaves

wire is a viable option which you left out.

I suppose it's an option, but not viable for some.

BAUS

**todd73nj** · 09-05-11, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by BAUS

I tried to deposit here today, but they aren't accepting Moneybookers deposits.

CS said "We might start accepting Moneybookers deposits again in a month".

Figure it out Betmaker. How can you get much liquidity offering only P2P and CC deposit options?

BAUS

Originally posted by bobbywaves

wire is a viable option which you left out.

I thought someone here claimed they used moneybookers - I scanned back and couldnt find it.. but I know its here. I dont use it personally bec I am in the USA. Wire works great for me.

Baus, you should consider an online bank account, can do wires right from you own home - can have money returned to it - withouth ever needing to provide any of your info to your personal account - which is a plus imo

**todd73nj** · 09-05-11, 11:26 PM

Originally posted by evo34

Makes sense. They purposefully programmed their system to under-represent actual volume?

Again this is back somewhere in the thread... its based on the smaller of the value ...

ie: if you bet $200 to win $100 - $100 is added to the volume. If you bet $50 to win $1000.. volume is $50.

From my understanding from other players, Betfair does the opposite. Tradsports/Intrade would do lots.. so if you bought a lot at $1 or $9 it counted as one lot.

**austin** · 09-06-11, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by todd73nj

Again this is back somewhere in the thread... its based on the smaller of the value ...

ie: if you bet $200 to win $100 - $100 is added to the volume. If you bet $50 to win $1000.. volume is $50.

From my understanding from other players, Betfair does the opposite. Tradsports/Intrade would do lots.. so if you bought a lot at $1 or $9 it counted as one lot.

yeah right. and since most of the odds are around evens it just proves bmaker sux big time

**BAUS** · 09-06-11, 12:57 AM

Originally posted by todd73nj

Baus, you should consider an online bank account, can do wires right from you own home - can have money returned to it - withouth ever needing to provide any of your info to your personal account - which is a plus imo

You just described moneybookers.

I live in Canada. Exchanging funds from CAD to USD back to CAD is costly. Moneybookers is the most efficient way to send and receive large amounts.

BAUS

**doesnotcompute** · 09-06-11, 08:50 AM

Originally posted by todd73nj

Baus, you should consider an online bank account, can do wires right from you own home - can have money returned to it - withouth ever needing to provide any of your info to your personal account - which is a plus imo

Which bank is this that allows you to initiate wires from the comfort of your own home? Please PM me since it is confidential. I've not done too much research into this, but from what I have seen, most banks require you phone them/ physically visit the branch.

**todd73nj** · 09-06-11, 11:09 PM

Originally posted by austin

yeah right. and since most of the odds are around evens it just proves bmaker sux big time

Actually no.. their point in that is for MLs and Golf, fighting, nascar, stuff like that. Obvioulsy it doesnt matter if its an Even or close to that wager.

**todd73nj** · 09-06-11, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by BAUS

You just described moneybookers. I live in Canada. Exchanging funds from CAD to USD back to CAD is costly. Moneybookers is the most efficient way to send and receive large amounts. BAUS

Originally posted by doesnotcompute

Which bank is this that allows you to initiate wires from the comfort of your own home? Please PM me since it is confidential. I've not done too much research into this, but from what I have seen, most banks require you phone them/ physically visit the branch.

Yes I understand Im describing money bookers - but for some sites maybe you need an online account to link to. *************** is helpful in that situation.

And I dont actually have one, Doesnotcompute.

My accounts are with TD bank, I have two. And when I use to send alot of wires - I asked about being able to send them online. They told me they dont have the option yet, but many banks, and online based accounts do. I never needed to look into it because I had a 2nd account, and my bank is a 2 min car ride from my house, and with my businesses, Im there daily anyway unfortunately.

**hhsilver** · 09-08-11, 03:24 PM

If you bet both sides of a market, do they handle it like matchbook as to available balance.

example: say your balance is 500 . you take GB -4' -105 risking 500 . Will you be able to take NO +4' risking anything up to 500 as is the case with Matchbook?

Also, do they round all wagers and balances to the nearest $0.01 in a fair way and do bets have to be in a whole number of dollars?

**wrongturn** · 09-08-11, 08:07 PM

Wow it is a start! NFL first game live betting and 2H lines!

**todd73nj** · 09-08-11, 11:41 PM

Originally posted by hhsilver

If you bet both sides of a market, do they handle it like matchbook as to available balance.

example: say your balance is 500 . you take GB -4' -105 risking 500 . Will you be able to take NO +4' risking anything up to 500 as is the case with Matchbook?

Also, do they round all wagers and balances to the nearest $0.01 in a fair way and do bets have to be in a whole number of dollars?

Yes, they have smart balance.

Originally posted by wrongturn

Wow it is a start! NFL first game live betting and 2H lines!

Did you notice MB not having live betting? Nothing for the NFL.

But I agree.. excellent start.

**todd73nj** · 09-11-11, 09:19 PM

Get on board with the live Betting guys!!

About 7% apart, Anywhere from 1k to 3k per side has been posted..

Dallas vs NY Jets

25k traded so far!!

Great to see some live in game trading!

**todd73nj** · 09-11-11, 11:28 PM

Hope you guys watched that tonight - traded almost 60k in game!!! Very encouraging.

Now if only we could get them to leave more games open.

I fully expect MNF to be live.. as they did Thurs night and Sun night.

**unclebuzz1** · 09-11-11, 11:43 PM

Originally posted by todd73nj

Hope you guys watched that tonight - traded almost 60k in game!!! Very encouraging.

Now if only we could get them to leave more games open.

I fully expect MNF to be live.. as they did Thurs night and Sun night.

Did they leave the Total open? Was there much action on the Total? (They didn't on Thurs night.)

Was there much action on the point spread? (There wasn't any on Thurs night.)

Or was it all on the ML?

**jizay** · 09-12-11, 07:52 PM

Originally posted by unclebuzz1

Did they leave the Total open? Was there much action on the Total? (They didn't on Thurs night.)

Was there much action on the point spread? (There wasn't any on Thurs night.)

Or was it all on the ML?

Last night was on the ML, tonight there was an MM on the spread, though it looks as of now that he might have bailed.

Very nice as an American to have live betting at an exchange. Hope this continues to grow.

**tofuman** · 09-12-11, 08:00 PM

live betting right now on the spread for patriots vs dolphins

**todd73nj** · 09-12-11, 11:30 PM

Another MMer coming shortly... and old Tradesports market maker who I have direct contact with!

Hopefully can convince them to leave more games open.

Did anyone see the final volume totals on the MNF games?

Think that will improve when there is only one!!

**tofuman** · 09-13-11, 01:13 AM

Originally posted by todd73nj

Another MMer coming shortly... and old Tradesports market maker who I have direct contact with!

Hopefully can convince them to leave more games open.

Did anyone see the final volume totals on the MNF games?

Think that will improve when there is only one!!

at 3rd quarter the patriots game had $25K+ matched.
not sure by the end.

**bobbywaves** · 09-13-11, 12:45 PM

When requesting a payout today, I was told the check fee is $65. When I told them I paid $50 a few weeks ago, I was advised the fee went up. Upon this news, I withdrew my withdrawal request. I realize it's an exchange, so there's no reload bonuses, loyalty rewards, not even 1 free payout per month. Doesn't give them the right to charge excessive fees. I will transfer funds back to Bookmaker & take my 2 free payouts per month. Betmaker can stick the $65 fee up their ass.

**todd73nj** · 09-13-11, 11:30 PM

Originally posted by tofuman

at 3rd quarter the patriots game had $25K+ matched.
not sure by the end.

Not bad! Better than any ingame since Tradesports.

Originally posted by bobbywaves

When requesting a payout today, I was told the check fee is $65. When I told them I paid $50 a few weeks ago, I was advised the fee went up. Upon this news, I withdrew my withdrawal request. I realize it's an exchange, so there's no reload bonuses, loyalty rewards, not even 1 free payout per month. Doesn't give them the right to charge excessive fees. I will transfer funds back to Bookmaker & take my 2 free payouts per month. Betmaker can stick the $65 fee up their ass.

That is awful to hear. So one step forward with live betting then charge more to withdraw.

**wrongturn** · 09-14-11, 10:54 AM

I noticed all European Cup soccer games were in living betting yesterday, but 0 offers during the whole game! So I placed an offer and matched it myself to kill the boredness.

**David** · 09-14-11, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by wrongturn

I noticed all European Cup soccer games were in living betting yesterday, but 0 offers during the whole game! So I placed an offer and matched it myself to kill the boredness.

**BigFish** · 09-14-11, 12:35 PM

I say "who cares" about some $50 or $65 withdrawal fee. Much more importantly, it appears that (1) our money would be safe here (owned by Bookmaker); (2) market liquidity is improving; and (3) live betting is starting to be offered.

To me this is great news, and far outweighs the small withdrawal fee. That's a cost of doing business these days, guys.

I think I'm going to deposit here very shortly, and encourage others to do so as well!!

**unclebuzz1** · 09-14-11, 02:05 PM

I say "God bless ya" if $50 to $65 is a small withdrawal fee for you. To a $20 bettor, it represents the juice for 25 to 30 bets.