Betmaker Review - In progress

[todd73nj]

Currently I'm only making free $$$ on Betmaker with Nascar arbs & scalping friends bets with better lines. I would like to expand, but I'm not a computer programmer & don't have a lot of time to study lines for opportunities. This program that's hosted on your website, can anyone check it out or you charge for access?

Bobby, drop me an email at tjg8633@hotmail.com.

[todd73nj]

is it just me or is betmaker all fvked up today? on MLB and NFL it separates all the lines, and if you try to bet on something it says invalid bet data

No problems for me.. maybe try a different browser? They are incompatible with IE last I tried.

You may be talking about how MB is now and has been the last 2 years but prior to that, both original and alternate lines had plenty of liquidity. It was when the WSEX market-makers pulled out (for live wagering) that MB went down hill. This IS what most of us are complaining about as being a navigation nightmare at Betmaker. Betmaker lists run lines for all games with 1 click, ml for all games with a 2nd click and totals for all games with a 3rd click to find information on any single game. This may be the way you want the information displayed. Most/All of the rest of us don't want it displayed that way. We want all the information (run line/ml/total/alternate lines) for any single game displayed together with 1 click (or 2 clicks to see alternate lines). And in addition, it showed all games at once in smaller groups such as "All NL games" or "All AL games". .

And that occured 2 years ago - and from that point on MB was awful imo.

If you refer back to the email I sent to Betmaker, I asked them to make this change - and they werent even interested in that because they said they wanted to be like Betfair - where you can only have one of the runners on the screen at one time. Maybe its not perfect - but like I said - if Im getting paid, this is something I would never bitch about.

5D pays the 1st $40 for withdrawals taken on Monday mornings ... Redemption requests processed on Mondays between 9:00 AM EST and 1:00 PM EST may not incur a transaction fee only if the method is eligible for it. Payment methods with a fee of $40 or less will get processed free of charge if no payouts have been sent in the previous 30 days and if sent on a Monday morning. You are allowed one free withdrawal every 30 days only.

Never knew about that Monday thing - been there forever. I am going to have to ask them about that. But I withdraw weekly over my ideal balance, so I guess I have become use to the fees. I get paid quickly, so I dont mind. $100 to $200 a month in withdrawal fees doesnt really effect my profitability

[todd73nj]

todd your statements are getting more and more ridiculous. Betmaker still sucks for everything except straight wagers on money lines on any sport. That's it. The amount of time you spend on here since the day matchbook left makes me assume you work for betmaker. You stand by all there faults and still after all these months with no changes to the problems mentioned by the posters here, you still spout the same tune. If you know what your doing you can make money at betmaker. What you can make is not worth the time it takes. I've been doing this a long time, for an exchange they suck. Without changes they will always suck. Here is the proof. The 1st chance anyone from the us gets to play at another exchange betmaker will fold up. Bookmaker will be fine with that. They could care less.

Lol. I work for Betmaker? I guess that ranting I did a few pages back about how I took the time to email them, get on conference calls with them - ONLY resulted the changing of the commission page. A simple cosmetic change that I could have made in 5 minutes.

Problem with these forums - 95 % of the people talk much bigger than they really are. Ive said many times, in many threads on here what my average bet size is, so feel free to go back and look. Im no big timer, but I make a few bucks. You can feel free to call me what youd like - but anytime a guy says how he has made his living on sports betting, I just laugh. If you were as big time as you say, YOU wouldnt be wasting your time here - or talking about navigation, or bet close out times. If you were really making your living here, youd be most concerned about security of funds.

[todd73nj]

Well I got the checks for most of my withdrawal today (they are sending it in two shipments) so that's a very good sign. And I got it very quickly after they decided to do it so that's also a good sign. Maybe can't draw any firm conclusion, but I tend to think this was probably just a glitch that they couldn't control so things are looking good as of now!

Great to hear! Seems that courier package arrived very quickly. Glad they addressed it.

[todd73nj]

I just requested a $3,000 payout today via check by courier, paid the excessive $50 fee. Hope the check arrives in a reasonable amount of time. Then I'll redeposit into DSI with my 40% reload offer & get back way more than the $50 fee. I try not to withdraw from DSI, as you have to wait 30 days to be bonus eligible after a payout. After completeing the DSI bonus rollover, I'll transfer into Betmaker for another withdrawal & continue to cycle funds this way.

This is part of the whole arbing process. Picking up bonuses. Can really add to the profitability. Problem is - we need a few more A rated books to play with. They are dwindling fast!

[Hareeba!]

okay the site is working fine in IE9, doesn't work fine in Chrome or Firefox 6.0.

Firefox 6.0 is bad news. Also screws up on Betfair.
I tried Chrome after that but found it's no good with Matchbook.
Reinstalled Firefox 5.0 and all is well again.

[relaaxx]

Lol. I work for Betmaker? I guess that ranting I did a few pages back about how I took the time to email them, get on conference calls with them - ONLY resulted the changing of the commission page. A simple cosmetic change that I could have made in 5 minutes.

Problem with these forums - 95 % of the people talk much bigger than they really are. Ive said many times, in many threads on here what my average bet size is, so feel free to go back and look. Im no big timer, but I make a few bucks. You can feel free to call me what youd like - but anytime a guy says how he has made his living on sports betting, I just laugh. If you were as big time as you say, YOU wouldnt be wasting your time here - or talking about navigation, or bet close out times. If you were really making your living here, youd be most concerned about security of funds.

problem with you is you can't read. i said i made a living and live on what i made. because of matchbook and before that pinnacle. i do not make my living now on gambling. there is not enough oppurtunities and because of the depost-withdrawlal problems and fees. before you could move 10's of thousands of dollars a day. in and out of sportsbooks and netteller. after neteller and pinacle left you could still do great with wsex and matchbook played agaisnt other shops with great bonuses and make not as much but still good enough for another few years. those days are gone. your not going to be able to move money around fast enough anymore. i just been doing this a long time and can easily see betmaker is only good for staright money line bets and saving a little vig if the spread hasn't moved to far from the orginal line(because like you know they never change the orgional line). i still gamble for fun. don't bet a lot. want to keep what i made in the past. it's not the same game. also, i don't consider it wasting my time voicing my opinion. and SBR has saved my ass a couple times in the past when i 1st got ripped off. and a second time a couple years later. i don't forget.i owe SBR. the site and the posters i think this site is great. i am here daily. to say what i like and what i don't like. and what i don't like is someone telling people how they can make some money like them. and they are mistaken or just lying.

[patswin]

what is their new url?

[unclebuzz1]

what is their new url?

https://betmaker.ag/

[patswin]

TY unclebuzz

[todd73nj]

problem with you is you can't read. i said i made a living and live on what i made. because of matchbook and before that pinnacle. i do not make my living now on gambling. there is not enough oppurtunities and because of the depost-withdrawlal problems and fees. before you could move 10's of thousands of dollars a day. in and out of sportsbooks and netteller. after neteller and pinacle left you could still do great with wsex and matchbook played agaisnt other shops with great bonuses and make not as much but still good enough for another few years. those days are gone. your not going to be able to move money around fast enough anymore. i just been doing this a long time and can easily see betmaker is only good for staright money line bets and saving a little vig if the spread hasn't moved to far from the orginal line(because like you know they never change the orgional line). i still gamble for fun. don't bet a lot. want to keep what i made in the past. it's not the same game. also, i don't consider it wasting my time voicing my opinion. and SBR has saved my ass a couple times in the past when i 1st got ripped off. and a second time a couple years later. i don't forget.i owe SBR. the site and the posters i think this site is great. i am here daily. to say what i like and what i don't like. and what i don't like is someone telling people how they can make some money like them. and they are mistaken or just lying.

Ahh so you made your living on a site that was dead before Tradesports closed, then had 2 good years, then dragged down to low volume. I see. Wsex hasnt been a viable paying book in what 2 years?

And now your story is even less believable - you made your living back then - and now continue to live off what you made? You must be able to hit what 70? 80% of all plays you make?

What exactly is a living to you? To me, if you arent taking in $100k a year these days in a somewhat urban area you live tight. Now if you are referring to living in your moms basement, borrowing the keys to her 1998 Toyota Corolla, well thats a different type of living.

I gamble with disposable income. Never claimed to be a big winner, never will. Never "made my living" off of gambling - because we all know how that really works.

I can read just fine - you claim to be have been a big time gambler. But lets review:

1) Big time gambler complaining about navigation issues.
2) Upset about a $50 to get money from a secure site. To make $100k a year - you need to have A LOT of money floating around cyber space. I think that getting your money safely would be #1 on the list.
3) Complaining about close out times. But saying you are not all in. Think about that. What would it matter?
4) You arent an arb player - and doesnt sound like you are very interested in in game betting - so that makes you a pre game player.

So please show me how its done - I will be the first one to apologize to you - link me to your picks link? And this will have nothing to do with you having MADE your living in previous years, because of the reasons you say you cant make your living anymore - not that you have lost your picking skills. Youd have to be at least a 70% player - maybe more - to have made a living and still be living off that money. I wish I could be a 60% player.


And Ill be happy to put up or shut up also. All I have been talking about is In game play, finding edges, arbs etc, right?

So here you go. Take a look. Try it out on 5 dimes live betting for a few nights. You will find some very interesting chances where the odds are extremely in your favor.

http://www.sportstradingchatter.com/baseballingame/BaseballInGame.html

Waiting patiently for you to back up your talk.

[relaaxx]

todd - i told how i feel about betmaker enough times. i could care less what you think. do not have to explain anything to you and won't. anyone gambling online before neteller left knows how easy it was to make thousands a week, easy.wouldn't even really call it gambling. more like free money.do the math if you know how. from the way you talk about making money from betmaker lines i don't think you can add. you must be young or new to gambling online not to know what was going on and to think it was difficult to make a living and or that people really don't like to talk to much about how much they make or how they made it in a public forum and i shouldn't have mentioned it. but you want me to tell you what i did. i only did mention it because i was sick of your bullshit. did not bother to read more than the first couple lines of your long story. and won't read your answer to this either.but will respond to your flawed ideas about betmaker.just don't care what you think or have to say anymore. but do care that you don't get others to listen to your nonsense.i will continue to express my views about betmaker and how you can't make enough money to make it worth while doing anything except betting money lines and the occasional spread that does not move all week, without betmaker making numerous changes, or even address 1 complaint by thier customers. if you read this. i have a question, are all your post related to betmaker directly or even indirectly. is that all you care about, telling people how great betmaker is?

[todd73nj]

todd - i told how i feel about betmaker enough times. i could care less what you think. do not have to explain anything to you and won't. anyone gambling online before neteller left knows how easy it was to make thousands a week, easy.wouldn't even really call it gambling. more like free money.do the math if you know how. from the way you talk about making money from betmaker lines i don't think you can add. you must be young or new to gambling online not to know what was going on and to think it was difficult to make a living and or that people really don't like to talk to much about how much they make or how they made it in a public forum and i shouldn't have mentioned it. but you want me to tell you what i did. i only did mention it because i was sick of your bullshit. did not bother to read more than the first couple lines of your long story. and won't read your answer to this either.but will respond to your flawed ideas about betmaker.just don't care what you think or have to say anymore. but do care that you don't get others to listen to your nonsense.i will continue to express my views about betmaker and how you can't make enough money to make it worth while doing anything except betting money lines and the occasional spread that does not move all week, without betmaker making numerous changes, or even address 1 complaint by thier customers. if you read this. i have a question, are all your post related to betmaker directly or even indirectly. is that all you care about, telling people how great betmaker is?

Anyone gambling back in the Netteller time will tell you how easy it was to make thousands per week? lol. Its easy to "say" so


You wont respond to my request - BECAUSE YOU CANT!

You dont arb, you dont play in game, so all thats left is to pick games. The ONLY thing thats changed is funding ability. That should never change your ability to be a winner or not. And the fact that you wont put up a link to your picks. And no I wont bet your picks, post them 5 mins after the game starts. I could careless. The fat that you wont, proves my point. Nothing but a bragger.

I drive a Ferrari.
I date a supermodel.
I have a 10 inch ****.
I live in a 20000sf mansion in South Beach.
I made thousands per week gambling and now live my life off of that.



Anyone gambling back in the Netteller time will tell you how easy it was to make thousands per week? lol. Its easy to "say" something - but alot harder to back it up once you are called out. If you were such a winner - you wouldnt need to deposit or wait for games to be graded - because your account would be exlploding.

Your talk will never be backed up because you cant produce the type of winning plays to allow you to not work for the past 4+ years?

Correct me if Im wrong - but Neteller went down Jan 07?? This is getting funnier the more facts you look at.

[bobbywaves]

Joined Betmaker about a month ago. Requested my first payout Monday & received it today via FedX. $3,000 in 3 days, $50 fee. Not use to paying for withdrawals, but I can accept it as I can clear more bonuses from DSI/Bookmaker easier & faster this way. Can earn 6x the $50 fee on 40% DSI reload bonus, for $1,000 deposits.

[todd73nj]

Joined Betmaker about a month ago. Requested my first payout Monday & received it today via FedX. $3,000 in 3 days, $50 fee. Not use to paying for withdrawals, but I can accept it as I can clear more bonuses from DSI/Bookmaker easier & faster this way. Can earn 6x the $50 fee on 40% DSI reload bonuses.

And its certainly nice to know that they can process it that quickly - cash on hand = quick payout.

[yellowman]

Bobbywaves - if you don't mind me asking, was your check drawn from a US or Canadian Bank? Don't need to know the bank specifically, just whether or not it was US or Canadian...TIA

[doesnotcompute]

Well it finally happened... beat heritage out of 15k and got limits slashed to half of what they were before. This is only after one month of half-ass wagering, in all less than 10 wagers. Good warning sign to transfer out of that sh1thole.

[tofuman]

Well it finally happened... beat heritage out of 15k and got limits slashed to half of what they were before. This is only after one month of half-ass wagering, in all less than 10 wagers. Good warning sign to transfer out of that sh1thole.

wow heritage limits??

[relaaxx]

todd you assume way to much. and of course you are wrong. i assume you are an ass. i told you i am not telling you anything. but you just keep asking for proof. like i have to prove something--TO YOU.

[bobbywaves]

Bobbywaves - if you don't mind me asking, was your check drawn from a US or Canadian Bank? Don't need to know the bank specifically, just whether or not it was US or Canadian...TIA

US, TD bank. Unless there are TD banks in Canada, I wouldn't know.

[todd73nj]

Well it finally happened... beat heritage out of 15k and got limits slashed to half of what they were before. This is only after one month of half-ass wagering, in all less than 10 wagers. Good warning sign to transfer out of that sh1thole.

Come over to Betmaker!

[todd73nj]

todd you assume way to much. and of course you are wrong. i assume you are an ass. i told you i am not telling you anything. but you just keep asking for proof. like i have to prove something--TO YOU.

Because like I said you cant. You are a gambler. And thats all. Not a big winner who has lived off his winnings for the past 4 years. You and 95% of the rest of the millionaires on here - when called out - you cant produce.

[Ethan]

don't like the layout. sorry

[Ethan]

Well it finally happened... beat heritage out of 15k and got limits slashed to half of what they were before. This is only after one month of half-ass wagering, in all less than 10 wagers. Good warning sign to transfer out of that sh1thole.

This is the first time I heard it imposes a limit

[todd73nj]

don't like the layout. sorry

Same style as Betfair.

Layout will keep you from joining a book?

Write your own API program - then you can have whatever layout youd like.

And those goes for a millionaire like relaxxxx also. Cant spend $1000 and have a programmer write you something for the API? lol

[relaaxx]

Same style as Betfair.

Layout will keep you from joining a book?

Write your own API program - then you can have whatever layout youd like.

And those goes for a millionaire like relaxxxx also. Cant spend $1000 and have a programmer write you something for the API? lol

todd you are still just an ass.

[todd73nj]

todd you are still just an ass.

Still waiting for your explanation of how you made enough money when Netteller was around to still be living off it and not need a job!!! No arbing.. just a big winner! Not sure what Im waiting for.. when called out.. unless you are legit you cant put up.

[tofuman]

fund those accounts boys, i need more liquidity.
also Heritage does book-to-book transfers to betmaker.. so that is the easiest and fastest way to get your money in (also free).

[todd73nj]

fund those accounts boys, i need more liquidity.
also Heritage does book-to-book transfers to betmaker.. so that is the easiest and fastest way to get your money in (also free).

Is that a new book added to the transfer list? I dont play there.. so I know nothing about Heritage.

[tofuman]

Is that a new book added to the transfer list? I dont play there.. so I know nothing about Heritage.

all ex-betjam and ex-thegreek players were transferred to the invite-only Heritage club.

[todd73nj]

all ex-betjam and ex-thegreek players were transferred to the invite-only Heritage club.

Great. Are they an A Rated book that will be transferring to and from Betmaker?

I dont use them, and probably never will unless 5dimes left the US market too.

[hhsilver]

I was just in chat with heritage and asked about book to book : I was told 5dimes and bookmaker - not betmaker. I didn't specifically ask about betmaker.

Also - this is important to me : I was watching the (non)action on betmaker for the 30 minutes before TCU/Baylor -- the big tv game Fri night. I saw nothing happening in that time. Could it be that I am not a member and was not logged it - 'auto refresh' was checked and i did see one or two slight changes on the offers. But for that 1/2 hr before the big tv game there was virtually no activity. I was thinking of joining for ncaaf, but what i saw makes me wonder.

[austin]

Also - this is important to me : I was watching the (non)action on betmaker for the 30 minutes before TCU/Baylor -- the big tv game Fri night. I saw nothing happening in that time. Could it be that I am not a member and was not logged it - 'auto refresh' was checked and i did see one or two slight changes on the offers. But for that 1/2 hr before the big tv game there was virtually no activity. I was thinking of joining for ncaaf, but what i saw makes me wonder.

it is the fact about bmaker. what you read in this thread is just hopeless attempts to encourage others to use bmaker and increase non-existent liquidity

[bobbywaves]

fund those accounts boys, i need more liquidity. also Heritage does book-to-book transfers to betmaker.. so that is the easiest and fastest way to get your money in (also free).

I doubt Heritage allows transfers to Betmaker, since Betmaker doesn't allow transfers to Heritage. Bookmaker & DSI allow free transfers to & from Betmaker, as it's the same family of books.

[todd73nj]

I was just in chat with heritage and asked about book to book : I was told 5dimes and bookmaker - not betmaker. I didn't specifically ask about betmaker.

Also - this is important to me : I was watching the (non)action on betmaker for the 30 minutes before TCU/Baylor -- the big tv game Fri night. I saw nothing happening in that time. Could it be that I am not a member and was not logged it - 'auto refresh' was checked and i did see one or two slight changes on the offers. But for that 1/2 hr before the big tv game there was virtually no activity. I was thinking of joining for ncaaf, but what i saw makes me wonder.

Well I had $400 on the game.. 15 mins before kick off.