Wrongturn has it right. I completely agree with his statement. Their liquidity would sky rocket with this one simple change.
							
						
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	Johnny 55Restricted User
- 05-16-09
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	todd73njSBR Wise Guy- 08-09-08
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#562Where isnt it hard to fund an account as an American now? How do you fund 5 dimes? I hate sending ** and **. At least Betmaker still offers the wire option.Originally posted by tofumanliquidity has improved, a lot of 2 cent lines today (with multiple K on both sides)
it's just hard to fund an account
Payouts have been very quick. I cant complain either.Originally posted by ArunShI got a wire from them within around 24 hours, pretty good if you ask me!
Originally posted by wrongturnIf they reduce the commission of making offers like Matchbook, liquidity will be even better. Just don't understand why they keep dragging their feet.So why dont the two of you put together an email and send it over to them? Couldnt hurt to get a few similar suggestions in their inbox!Originally posted by Johnny 55Wrongturn has it right. I completely agree with his statement. Their liquidity would sky rocket with this one simple change.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	hhsilverSBR Hall of Famer
- 06-07-07
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#563has there been any news about the new exchange that was being tested here a few months ago?Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	todd73njSBR Wise Guy- 08-09-08
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#564The one that was being talked about for 2 years? I never saw anything.Originally posted by hhsilverhas there been any news about the new exchange that was being tested here a few months ago?Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	unclebuzz1SBR Wise Guy
- 08-23-09
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#565Originally posted by hhsilverhas there been any news about the new exchange that was being tested here a few months ago?
 No new posts on either of the two threads ...
but the site itself is updated daily (with no offers) and my hockey future was graded within 15 minutes of being final ...
(I guess you have to be logged in to see it.)
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	todd73njSBR Wise Guy- 08-09-08
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#566But its nothing but a play site right?Originally posted by unclebuzz1
 No new posts on either of the two threads ...  http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...-exchange.html  http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...ck-thread.html  but the site itself is updated daily (with no offers) and my hockey future was graded within 15 minutes of being final ...  http://xmarketsexchange.com/  (I guess you have to be logged in to see it.)  .Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	unclebuzz1SBR Wise Guy
- 08-23-09
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#567They were testing during March Madness but with recent events it may be a dead issue.Originally posted by todd73njBut its nothing but a play site right?Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	todd73njSBR Wise Guy- 08-09-08
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#568I looked at it once during that contest.. and the site made me laugh. Never went back to it. It wasnt even designed like an exchange.Originally posted by unclebuzz1They were testing during March Madness but with recent events it may be a dead issue.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	Legions36SBR MVP- 12-17-10
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#569Hey Todd your right about betmaker they are pretty good for baseball, i like them.Originally posted by todd73njI looked at it once during that contest.. and the site made me laugh. Never went back to it. It wasnt even designed like an exchange.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	relaaxxSBR MVP
- 06-15-06
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#570when the hell are they going to offer live mlb betting--------------never is my guessComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	KindredSBR MVP
- 09-09-08
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#571Why aren't more people playing here? I'm moving my roll, there's more liquidity than I thought there would be considering how little I've heard about them (besides this thread I haven't heard anything)
Betjam is great but I'm moving most of my money over to betmaker.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	Johnny 55Restricted User
- 05-16-09
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#572I am still holding out hope for betmaker, as crappy as it is, it is still my only exchange out as an American citizen and so I have to hope and pray that the liquidity picks up and they change their commission structure to include incentive for making offers, it has gradually increased liquidity, obviously it would be better for all of us if more people played here, god damn, I wish I still had access to Matchy.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	todd73njSBR Wise Guy- 08-09-08
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#573I think liquidity is great! But getting them to do anything else is next to impossible.Originally posted by Johnny 55I am still holding out hope for betmaker, as crappy as it is, it is still my only exchange out as an American citizen and so I have to hope and pray that the liquidity picks up and they change their commission structure to include incentive for making offers, it has gradually increased liquidity, obviously it would be better for all of us if more people played here, god damn, I wish I still had access to Matchy.
Have you withdrawn from there yet? The speed of the wire or courier check is great. And thats honestly my biggest concern - the safety of my funds. Seeing how quickly they created Betmaker.ag after that DOJ attack even makes me feel more secure. Other books get DOJ attacks, and their platform crashes for days, or some just take off.
And honestly - if you are a winning player - does it matter if you are getting -118 or -116 on your bet? If your gambling margin is that close you probably shouldnt be playing anyway.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	ArunShSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-24-07
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#574Liquidity on $ lines is quite ok, just wish on MLB RLs and Totals it was a bit better, especially near game time.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	todd73njSBR Wise Guy- 08-09-08
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#575I agree that MLs are by far the best. But my only two accounts worth talking about are Betmaker and 5 dimes - and even on the totals/run lines, I still find better odds at Betmaker.Originally posted by ArunShLiquidity on $ lines is quite ok, just wish on MLB RLs and Totals it was a bit better, especially near game time.
That being said - its sad that I still have to use 5dimes for live betting - and an exchange doesnt keep the markets open for betting.
This industry is a mess.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	wrongturnSBR MVP
- 06-06-06
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#576The difference between -118 and -116 seems small, but it is $20 difference for $1k unit, and it will add up quickly for so many baseball games each season.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	todd73njSBR Wise Guy- 08-09-08
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#577Originally posted by wrongturnThe difference between -118 and -116 seems small, but it is $20 difference for $1k unit, and it will add up quickly for so many baseball games each season.
My point to that comment was the people here - and Im not citing anyone specific - just read the any of the forums - all hit at 70%. Maybe better. And they are all making $1,000s per week.
So even if you win 6 games at your posted odds and lose 4.. Its $1360 profit vs $1280.
If $80 means that much to you - you probably should be gambling $1000 per game right?
Im always happy to know my money is secure - or seemingly so.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	kilmerAsHollidaySBR Rookie
- 11-17-09
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#578Does betmaker live chat work or is it my adblock/hosts file breaking it? I sent an email re: a mis-graded wager and haven't heard anything from them.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	todd73njSBR Wise Guy- 08-09-08
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#579Ive actually never tried the chat.Originally posted by kilmerAsHollidayDoes betmaker live chat work or is it my adblock/hosts file breaking it? I sent an email re: a mis-graded wager and haven't heard anything from them.
But Ive always received pretty quick email response.
but if you look on the contact page - there is a toll free number where you can speak with someone, thats probably your quickest solution.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	tofumanSBR Wise Guy
- 01-11-10
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#580call them about the mis-graded wager, they should fix it relatively quicklocal forum trollComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	ArunShSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-24-07
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#581Yeah they fix things pretty quickly even though their live chat doesn't work to my knowledge.
Have to say I really wish liquidity for totals/run lines was better - near game time often times the lines are >10 cents up to 20 cents, which is certainly not what I would define as good. Wish I had appreciated matchbook while I had it
							
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	todd73njSBR Wise Guy- 08-09-08
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#582Matter of opinion on that. If I had known then what I know now about them not having player funds kept separate - Id appreciate them even less than I did.Originally posted by ArunShYeah they fix things pretty quickly even though their live chat doesn't work to my knowledge.
Have to say I really wish liquidity for totals/run lines was better - near game time often times the lines are >10 cents up to 20 cents, which is certainly not what I would define as good. Wish I had appreciated matchbook while I had it
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	JohnnyRottenSBR High Roller
- 06-13-11
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#583fkkin useless clowns betmaker are, never going to have decent liquidityComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	notsosharpSBR Wise Guy
- 10-25-10
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#584are their numbers improving?Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	jackkkk2009SBR MVP
- 07-13-09
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#585How come they the cc as a deposit method lately?Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	relaaxxSBR MVP
- 06-15-06
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#586Originally posted by JohnnyRottenfkkin useless clowns betmaker are, never going to have decent liquidity
half right - they will have decent liquidity, only exchange for US players. even if they do nothing to improve the site, people will still play here. if they would listen to thier players they would be the top sportsbook in the US fast, maybe they do not want the attention or are just idiots..Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	todd73njSBR Wise Guy- 08-09-08
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#587^^ I guess he doesnt look at the site much.Originally posted by JohnnyRottenfkkin useless clowns betmaker are, never going to have decent liquidity
Already have more than decent.. and you are right.. would bt the top sportsbook if they took the suggestions offered to them.Originally posted by relaaxxhalf right - they will have decent liquidity, only exchange for US players. even if they do nothing to improve the site, people will still play here. if they would listen to thier players they would be the top sportsbook in the US fast, maybe they do not want the attention or are just idiots..
But they dont seem to get it for some reason. Maybe they are making enough money?Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	todd73njSBR Wise Guy- 08-09-08
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#588Called Bet Maker today when I was looking for the lines for the British Open.
Figured there would be tournament matchups, winner (long and short) and maybe some other stuff... But I found nothing but the Viking classic listed.
The Viking Classic.
Are you kidding me?
Betfair has traded over 20 million PRE-British open across all the contracts - and Bet Maker doesnt list it?
When I asked why - they simply said the time of the event doesnt allow them to list it.
What a joke. An exchange is made for trading. Plenty of places I can buy futures. But wanted to play it live and get some after 1st, 2nd and 3rd round positions.
							
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	wrongturnSBR MVP
- 06-06-06
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#589It is not like they have to put own money on risk. Don't know what they are thinking. definitely
							
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	todd73njSBR Wise Guy- 08-09-08
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#590They ended up posting them at about 1am last night.Originally posted by wrongturnIt is not like they have to put own money on risk. Don't know what they are thinking. definitely
I got some short positions on 8 golfers. Had decent amounts posted. But wish it had been up all week, fell I could have done much better on the odds.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	maxvalue1SBR Sharp
- 11-08-10
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#591What kind of liquidity do you expect for NFL...CFB?Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	Foosball ChampSBR MVP
- 10-19-10
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#592I wish they would carry the racetracks that betfair carries. It would increase their liquidy 2 fold.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	todd73njSBR Wise Guy- 08-09-08
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#593I admit I had much higher hope a few months back. So I would say decent expectations.Originally posted by maxvalue1What kind of liquidity do you expect for NFL...CFB?
But Im hoping for plenty of chances to get .5 lines and E lines and have a chance to win push.
What tracks are those? They seem to have a decent amount.Originally posted by Foosball ChampI wish they would carry the racetracks that betfair carries. It would increase their liquidy 2 fold.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	tofumanSBR Wise Guy
- 01-11-10
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#594betmaker still open to US players? anyone have a successful withdraw recently?
w/ thegreek and betjam closing betmaker might be an alternative to some. liquidity will be even better too.local forum trollComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	todd73njSBR Wise Guy- 08-09-08
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#595I have had no problems with withdrawals at all. Been a few weeks since I have not had one problem. Pretty quick turn around
They do have WD fees.. so be prepared. I know BetJam use to do that 1 free WD a month thing? Or something like that. So its not the same as that.. thats for sure.Comment 
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