Betmaker Review - In progress

[relaaxx]

liquidity is up -- because it was so bad. the lines are terrible and not that much on those bad lines. to me BETMAKER has not improved at all really. for an exchange they suck. they fix nothing. where's the live betting. lines still do not change from over night line, the endless amount of extra clicks to navigate from sport to sport and or even while in the same sport, you can only see the ml, spread or u/o , 1 at a time. i could take all night complaining. they do nothing right. and don't care. i can still save a couple bucks compared to a 110 sportsbook. but, big deal. not worth the aggrivation. if things don't change soon i will pay my fee for the withdrawl, just like i paid the fee to deposit and leave. we need a better exchange than this.

[Johnny 55]

i dont get it either, there is a tremendous market for the product they could create with very little work. 7 simple changes.

1. easier deposit/withdrawal options
2. change the comission structure slightly to offer incentive for posting an offer
3. live betting
4. alternative lines, so trading isnt exclusively done on stale lines
5. easier navigation
6. live chat
7. put Todd in charge of marketing

[relaaxx]

i dont get it either, there is a tremendous market for the product they could create with very little work. 7 simple changes.

1. easier deposit/withdrawal options
2. change the comission structure slightly to offer incentive for posting an offer
3. live betting
4. alternative lines, so trading isnt exclusively done on stale lines
5. easier navigation
6. live chat
7. put Todd in charge of marketing

makes you think they just do not want too much action there. they can not be that stupid not to see the protential and do something,anything about it.

[todd73nj]

liquidity is up -- because it was so bad. the lines are terrible and not that much on those bad lines. to me BETMAKER has not improved at all really. for an exchange they suck. they fix nothing. where's the live betting. lines still do not change from over night line, the endless amount of extra clicks to navigate from sport to sport and or even while in the same sport, you can only see the ml, spread or u/o , 1 at a time. i could take all night complaining. they do nothing right. and don't care. i can still save a couple bucks compared to a 110 sportsbook. but, big deal. not worth the aggrivation. if things don't change soon i will pay my fee for the withdrawl, just like i paid the fee to deposit and leave. we need a better exchange than this.

Bottom line, the lines/liquidity is better than what MB was offering after they booted US players and better than what they are offering now. I posted screen shots. Please do the same.

As far as the other stuff, navigation, stale lines, etc.. cant argue with you. But stale lines lead to some nice chances to make money with no risk in hoops etc. But no such thing as stale lines with MLB, not many games move a full run.

i dont get it either, there is a tremendous market for the product they could create with very little work. 7 simple changes.

1. easier deposit/withdrawal options
2. change the comission structure slightly to offer incentive for posting an offer
3. live betting
4. alternative lines, so trading isnt exclusively done on stale lines
5. easier navigation
6. live chat
7. put Todd in charge of marketing

LOL. When Tradesports closed, I emailed them an offer for the platform. I had a few people interested in going in on it with me - and I was ready to move offshore and run an exchange. Not sure Id be good at marketing, as my backround is finance. But Ive given them so many ideas. I wanted this to be great - as there has never been a great exchange. TS was solid, MB was good. But they both had little things that could have made them great.

#1 - is hard anywhere right now. What book has anything other than **/** and wire for US players right now? And has a decent safety rating?

#2 - They just changed their commission structure from that old complex points system.. so doubt they would do that again

#3 - PLEASE!! Thats what I like most about exchanges

#4 - Completely agree

#5 - They like it the way they have it. Want it like Betfair. I can live with it if we get some other changes.

#6 - They have a toll free # which is just as good imo

[elgreco]

Todd, I checked out nadex on your recommendation. I never knew an exchange like that existed. It looks fantastic. If that exchange was around during my days of market speculation, I would have been able to lose my shirt in days instead of the years it actually took .

Thanks for the heads up.

[todd73nj]

Todd, I checked out nadex on your recommendation. I never knew an exchange like that existed. It looks fantastic. If that exchange was around during my days of market speculation, I would have been able to lose my shirt in days instead of the years it actually took .

Thanks for the heads up.

Nadex is the ****!!! Nothing better! Platform rocks! Easy to fun, get paid within 2 days. And always a Market maker. So many markets!

You should give it a try. Well worth it!

[Johnnythunder]

thanks for the updates todd.....maybe you should open up your own exchange

[todd73nj]

thanks for the updates todd.....maybe you should open up your own exchange

Like I said, I offered Tradesports 100k for their platform - but they didnt even respond to my message. I had a couple of backers who wanted to do this project with me. I was ready to move to the Islands.

Its so freaking easy to see exactly what would make a great exchange. But no one can seem to do it right. Tradesports wasnt exactly right, and every exchange since then has less to offer feature in succession. MB, BM and now this new exchange they are working on its more like questions and answers than a trading exchange.

And before someone jumps and says but you need liquidity blah blah... If you had all the right features and structure - liquidity would be the easy part.

[Johnny 55]

Todd, you should move to the Islands, I need a new exchange and preferably by football season.

[ktorp18]

You could probably get an exchange platform created for a lot less than 100k.

[todd73nj]

Todd, you should move to the Islands, I need a new exchange and preferably by football season.

You could probably get an exchange platform created for a lot less than 100k.

I wouldnt even know where to start creating one or what I would need in terms of equipment - or where to find someone to build what I wanted. I actually still have old Tradesports screen shots - just in case.

But as far as the rest of it, I have owned/operated/bought/sold over 40 business in my life. So from that standpoint, I would understand the most important part - keeping the masses satisfied.

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[wrongturn]

The homepage shows DOJ notice now!!!!

Anybody has its new link, if any?

[the_situation]

wow Betmaker completely down...

Matchbook

[ktorp18]

The site still works for me. Not sure why. They will continue to be in operation in the united states either way.

[todd73nj]

The site still worked for me also until this morning.. But Bookmaker had all of its domains seized supposively.

I think the new Bookmaker site is bmaker.ag

So Im assuming Betmaker will have a new site shortly also.

If anyone sees the info please post it

[Legions36]

The site still worked for me also until this morning.. But Bookmaker had all of its domains seized supposively.

I think the new Bookmaker site is bmaker.ag

So Im assuming Betmaker will have a new site shortly also.

If anyone sees the info please post it

Yeah thats what they said

[heyman]

The site still worked for me also until this morning.. But Bookmaker had all of its domains seized supposively.

I think the new Bookmaker site is bmaker.ag

So Im assuming Betmaker will have a new site shortly also.

If anyone sees the info please post it

It's up. Use the Antigua extension.

[relaaxx]

It's up. Use the Antigua extension.

www.betmaker.ag

[todd73nj]

What a shame its come to this. If anything time to loosen up the Patriot act!

Thanks for the info guys.

Everything seems to be running fine on the new address. Hopefully no FURTHER complications with money movement.

[tofuman]

at least the new address works

[todd73nj]

at least the new address works

The address is the easiest fix though.

If the US govt has now decided to take this so serious - makes you wonder how long any of these processors can stay in business for deposits and withdrawals.

Also makes you wonder about the over all safety of your money. Look at BetEd... just gone.

That will ultimately hurt liquidity alot.

[maxvalue1]

update?

[Killakrzydav]

.ag

I received the email the other day. Funding is still impossible. Furthermore, I would not dump money into a book that is just a half step in front of they feds. I'm pulling my money out across the board for the time being

[maxvalue1]

Yes...Funding is now the big question...but we know the the books are already working on this...and hopefully they have a hand to play

[todd73nj]

.ag

I received the email the other day. Funding is still impossible. Furthermore, I would not dump money into a book that is just a half step in front of they feds. I'm pulling my money out across the board for the time being

Only two places where I have money right now... Betmaker and 5dimes. And I have to agree with you.. Only a half step ahead.

But still feel like I would get paid from them .. Bookmaker has plenty of non-US business they would want to keep and if any of their umbrella didnt pay it wouldnt hurt their SBR rating.

But its set back after set back.

[Hareeba!]

Only two places where I have money right now... Betmaker and 5dimes. And I have to agree with you.. Only a half step ahead.

But still feel like I would get paid from them .. Bookmaker has plenty of non-US business they would want to keep and if any of their umbrella didnt pay it wouldnt hurt their SBR rating.

But its set back after set back.

so are they no longer better than Matchbook in every way?

[ArunSh]

Hard to tell which is better between the two - we US players can't even see Matchbook! But I feel rather certain that each has its advantages and would be very beneficial for a person to have access to both.

[Johnny 55]

Anyone with a line service will tell you which is better. Matchbook is, even now, anyone can look at the baseball lines any time and see that, also, you can factor in the higher fees betmaker charges and the difference is even more pronounced.

[Milk Money]

Hard to tell which is better between the two - we US players can't even see Matchbook! But I feel rather certain that each has its advantages and would be very beneficial for a person to have access to both.

I can see Matchbook lines and I am from U.S.

[pokernight1991]

I am in the US and I also can see matchbook lines. This is the first time in at least a couple of months that I can. Used to get the response that site was unavailable in US.

[unclebuzz1]

I'm US ... I see a newly designed home page (old format inside) ... I get locked out if I try to use the old format homepage.

[maxvalue1]

you are dead on!!!....set back after set back

[ArunSh]

Yes, I didn't realize that you could now see them again - that's nice, a good model of comparison. I sure wish I could still bet at Matchbook though!

[todd73nj]

Hard to tell which is better between the two - we US players can't even see Matchbook! But I feel rather certain that each has its advantages and would be very beneficial for a person to have access to both.

Anyone with a line service will tell you which is better. Matchbook is, even now, anyone can look at the baseball lines any time and see that, also, you can factor in the higher fees betmaker charges and the difference is even more pronounced.

What is there better about MB lines?

Do you know how many guys in here cry about over night lines. I dont see one game with more than $254 posted - and not more than one price on any game in the MLB for Saturday.

If thats what you call better.. then Im not sure what you are looking at. Betmaker has the better lead price in about 75% of the games too.

I would posts screen shots - again - but what good does it do? People come back with blanket statements about MB.

Matchbook **was** great. Matchbook now is not better than Betmaker. If all the US players were still at MB things would be different - but most of the volume has been taken to Betmaker.

[bill2266]

thank you posters for this info ty