Betmaker Review - In progress

[todd73nj]

not listed. wish i could get a straight answer from BETMAKER about this. anyone else have the choice of instant deposit still listed.

Someone else had to have used E Check besides me.. I used it 3 times for my initial deposits.

keep up the liquidity boys!

NBA was great today. Didnt look at much baseball/.

[todd73nj]

Great NBA liquidity for the playoff games. Just looking at it now - compared to what matchbook is offering - Betmaker has much better value right now.

So much for the US players not being a key part to Matchbook. Seems as though some have already taken their liquidity to Betmaker

[Mistongo]

Has anybody tried withdrawals?

[tofuman]

todd supposedly has, he got a couple of checks by now

[wrongturn]

It looks like betmaker is officially in the great category.

[todd73nj]

Has anybody tried withdrawals?

todd supposedly has, he got a couple of checks by now

They pay out! Need to add some more options but I think that may come in time.

For now, I used the courier check. But they have a $9 check option available that is not listed.

It looks like betmaker is officially in the great category.

Getting there. Im happy so far. Its been what.. 50 days since MB closed for US players? Liquidity/Value is better in many cases, they pay out. The other necessary changes will come Im sure.

[sdtrader]

I heard that they had a couple of baseball games opened for live betting recently. How was the liquidity on these games?

[jackkkk2009]

I tried to deposit via my CC. On the cashier page, it said: " processed successfully". but my BM account is still $0 in balance. how come? what can i do with that?

[relaaxx]

I tried to deposit via my CC. On the cashier page, it said: " processed successfully". but my BM account is still $0 in balance. how come? what can i do with that?

you can not use cc. call them. but i think that if you are not able to use cc, it still lets you go through the procedure.

[todd73nj]

I heard that they had a couple of baseball games opened for live betting recently. How was the liquidity on these games?

Really? I didnt notice this. Nut honestly, didnt look. Did they advertise it on the page?

Did anyone trade them? Any volume?

I tried to deposit via my CC. On the cashier page, it said: " processed successfully". but my BM account is still $0 in balance. how come? what can i do with that?

Call them - they have a phone number on the contact page

[pokernight1991]

I checked the site during the time they were to have baseball games for live betting and did not see them being up. As a former MB and Tradesports user it would be nice to have an exchange that offered live betting to Americans, but so far no luck.

[KGambler]

easiest way to get money in is book-to-book transfer! it's free!

Do we have to have the money transferred to Bookmaker, then ask Bookmaker to send it to Betmaker?

[Sdotbold]

Atlanta La Dodgers was live betting market last week but it was at 340pm edt. I got home from work and saw it. it was the end of the game so wasnt really any open offers up when i looked. Has anyone used there CC with them to deposit? I used the e Check option when i initially deposited. took about 5 days to clear to my account, they said it was instant when i signed up but that wasnt the case after i did it. but all went well after 5 days. but now its not an option so i am wondering if my cc/dc would work?

[maxvalue1]

thanks for keeping us updated...will be signing up with them soon

[todd73nj]

I checked the site during the time they were to have baseball games for live betting and did not see them being up. As a former MB and Tradesports user it would be nice to have an exchange that offered live betting to Americans, but so far no luck.

MB was awful for live betting for the least year - there was no volume at all.

I miss the Tradesports platform and ingame volume. That was great.

Did you chat in the Tradesports Chat pit?

[33therizla]

seeding

does anyone know who is seeding betmaker right now??

no liquidity during live matches. no halftime or quarter lines.

takes a while for your confirmed bet to make it to the screen.

[33therizla]

has anyone used the api at tool.betmaker.com?? its super weird

[tofuman]

Do we have to have the money transferred to Bookmaker, then ask Bookmaker to send it to Betmaker?

yes sort of: i don't even have an account at bookmaker, but just tell your other bookie to send it to your betmaker account (but call it bookmaker in the email), then email betmaker and they will process for you. (you don't need to email bookmaker at all)

did that make sense?

[playz]

yes sort of: i don't even have an account at bookmaker, but just tell your other bookie to send it to your betmaker account (but call it bookmaker in the email), then email betmaker and they will process for you. (you don't need to email bookmaker at all)

did that make sense?

HUH?

[todd73nj]

does anyone know who is seeding betmaker right now??

no liquidity during live matches. no halftime or quarter lines.

takes a while for your confirmed bet to make it to the screen.

I honestly dont think anyone is seeding Betmaker. Its been getting gradually better since March 1st.

As far as live matches - Ive only seen golf. Masters was pretty good live, the rest has been limited where you would need to pay a little more than Fair Value to get your position.


But as far as pre-game - Its better than MB is/was.

[Johnny 55]

todd-

Betmaker is getting better, but it is not even close to what Matchbook was, I dont know what it is now because I dont have access to it but Matchbook, last baseball season had one cent lines on every game, they had way better runlines, far better liquidity, alternate lines for basketball, way more sports, a better comission structure, people far more willing to accept better than Pinny offers. Not having Matchbook is costing me a couple thousand a week and I am fully funded at betmaker and it barely helps me, if you put Matchy and betmaker on your don best or sports options screen, Matchbook almost always has the better line.

I am a firm believer in the incentive for posting an offer, if this is not given, there are not nearly as many offers and the liquidity looks a lot worse than it actually is.

[relaaxx]

todd-

Betmaker is getting better, but it is not even close to what Matchbook was, I dont know what it is now because I dont have access to it but Matchbook, last baseball season had one cent lines on every game, they had way better runlines, far better liquidity, alternate lines for basketball, way more sports, a better comission structure, people far more willing to accept better than Pinny offers. Not having Matchbook is costing me a couple thousand a week and I am fully funded at betmaker and it barely helps me, if you put Matchy and betmaker on your don best or sports options screen, Matchbook almost always has the better line.

I am a firm believer in the incentive for posting an offer, if this is not given, there are not nearly as many offers and the liquidity looks a lot worse than it actually is.

there is nothing betmaker does better than matchboook did. not 1 single thing. that said. matchbook is gone. i have to play at betmaker. can't wait for another exchange to happen.

[tofuman]

omg betmaker actually updated their site! they are not asleep at the wheel! lol

Betmaker Introductory Offer!*

2% Sports
2.4% Horses

Commissions charged on NET WIN ONLY

*2% for all markets with a market base rate of 5%
2.4% on all markets with a market base rate of 6%

[todd73nj]

todd-

Betmaker is getting better, but it is not even close to what Matchbook was, I dont know what it is now because I dont have access to it but Matchbook, last baseball season had one cent lines on every game, they had way better runlines, far better liquidity, alternate lines for basketball, way more sports, a better comission structure, people far more willing to accept better than Pinny offers. Not having Matchbook is costing me a couple thousand a week and I am fully funded at betmaker and it barely helps me, if you put Matchy and betmaker on your don best or sports options screen, Matchbook almost always has the better line.

I am a firm believer in the incentive for posting an offer, if this is not given, there are not nearly as many offers and the liquidity looks a lot worse than it actually is.

For one, Commission structure is basically equal. And secondly, if you scroll back in this message you will find a few days of Betmaker v MB price/liquidity screen shot comparisions - and Betmaker was better or equal to MB in 75% of the games. And that didnt even count NCAA/NHL where MB had been posting nothing.

Not sure what you are looking at.

But no wonder matchbook had to sell - Another guy making thousands a week, who paid no commissions. Amazing how many of those there are.

omg betmaker actually updated their site! they are not asleep at the wheel! lol

Betmaker Introductory Offer!*

2% Sports
2.4% Horses

Commissions charged on NET WIN ONLY

*2% for all markets with a market base rate of 5%
2.4% on all markets with a market base rate of 6%

LOL.. They just deleted the bottom half of the page. I could have done that for them

[Johnny 55]

Todd-

You seem like a reasonably sharp guy and I am not out to pick any fights with you but you are way off base here and your reading comprehension skills are poor to quite poor.

First, commission structure is not equal, I used to be payed by Matchbook when my offers were accepted, now I have to pay 2 % on my winning bets, not only does this kill my incentive to make offers but on the other end with baseball and Matchbook it was still less than 1%, it was way better on both ends.

Secondly, I was speaking of what Matchbook was last year for baseball, basketball, and football, not this year, I stated clearly, I do not know what Matchbook is currently like as I cant play there anymore, but lets get real, betmaker is virtually worthless for basketball since they never move their lines, it also sucks for baseball totals, since they have one line and never any alternates.

I never once said I made thousands a week from Matchbook, what I said is that not having access to Matchbook is costing me thousands a week, it was the ultimate place to lay stuff off, get free looks at middles, or pay very small prices for middle looks, and of course it was fantastic for rolling through bonuses.

We all miss Matchbook, it sucks not having it, saying Betmaker is 10% of what Matchbook was at this time last year is about accurate, Betmaker is an out worth having, you can get the best line there sometimes but never for as much money as I want. Hopefully, the XMarketsExchange thing will get going quickly.

[unclebuzz1]

Question for anyone that has seen or used live betting at Betmaker ... 1) Is it live betting as in during play (between pitches or batters) or is it only during commercial breaks? ... 2) Does the total/run line remain constant throughout the game or do they change based on the current score and inning? ... TIA

[unclebuzz1]

Hopefully, the XMarketsExchange thing will get going quickly.

I pray daily that XMarketsExchange goes live but there hasn't been any indication in the past 2 weeks ... they still have offers up for April 19th ... everyone visit over there and make some noise!!!!!

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/731541-blackie-ganchrow-betting-exchange.html

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/998523-xm-exchange-feedback-thread.html

http://xmarketsexchange.com/

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[tofuman]

i made some noise over there

[todd73nj]

Todd-

You seem like a reasonably sharp guy and I am not out to pick any fights with you but you are way off base here and your reading comprehension skills are poor to quite poor.

First, commission structure is not equal, I used to be payed by Matchbook when my offers were accepted, now I have to pay 2 % on my winning bets, not only does this kill my incentive to make offers but on the other end with baseball and Matchbook it was still less than 1%, it was way better on both ends.

Secondly, I was speaking of what Matchbook was last year for baseball, basketball, and football, not this year, I stated clearly, I do not know what Matchbook is currently like as I cant play there anymore, but lets get real, betmaker is virtually worthless for basketball since they never move their lines, it also sucks for baseball totals, since they have one line and never any alternates.

I never once said I made thousands a week from Matchbook, what I said is that not having access to Matchbook is costing me thousands a week, it was the ultimate place to lay stuff off, get free looks at middles, or pay very small prices for middle looks, and of course it was fantastic for rolling through bonuses.

We all miss Matchbook, it sucks not having it, saying Betmaker is 10% of what Matchbook was at this time last year is about accurate, Betmaker is an out worth having, you can get the best line there sometimes but never for as much money as I want. Hopefully, the XMarketsExchange thing will get going quickly.

Can you find me one person on here who was a price taker on Matchbook - outside of me? Im not saying your not telling the truth - but if all these people who were making thousands of dollars per week - and being paid by Matchbook were actually actually in existence - that would have been the most lucrative book in history. I may not be recalling the ratio corrrectly - but you you would have had to have 10:1 maker vs taker? Somewhere, many are not being honest and claiming something that isnt even close to true. Just like the guy who had thousands in futures who ended up with $600.

And I will agree with you about Matchbook over a year ago. It WAS a great site. But the 6 months to a year leading up to this management change were awful.

Maybe Betmaker doesnt measure up to what Matchbook was well over a year ago. But if you are comparing to what Matchbook was in the months leading up to the change over - and the month that MB was accessible to US players when Betmaker was in play - Betmaker kicks what was left of MBs ass.

[Johnny 55]

You still dont understand what I am saying, I was not and others like me were not making thousands per week from matchbook but matchbook was helping us clear thousands a week, and thus not having it hurts the bottom line quite a bit. Betmaker does not help me make money, it sucks, bring back Matchbook, there were tons of people who were price takers by the way.

[maxvalue1]

Johnny 55

I understand what you are saying....but let me ask you this or let me throw this out there w/no reponse needed.
You obviously are taking a huge hit from MB not being available to US players...cant confirm but I heard some players have found ways to get around "being blocked". or get agent/friend outside US

[sfcpamike]

Matchbook was better, but I can say that I got better odds on 4 of the 5 UFC fights tonight than I did on my other two books. And the Aldo moneyline was nearly 100 points better at Betmaker. So while it is not perfect it certainly has its advantages imo.

[todd73nj]

You still dont understand what I am saying, I was not and others like me were not making thousands per week from matchbook but matchbook was helping us clear thousands a week, and thus not having it hurts the bottom line quite a bit. Betmaker does not help me make money, it sucks, bring back Matchbook, there were tons of people who were price takers by the way.

I understand your point about not making thousands on MB specifically. But for about 6 days in a row I compared odds between the two - and Betmaker was better to much better in at least 50% of the instances. Better or equal in over 75%. So Im not sure how you cant continue to make money.

Use a private browser right now - What are the next two days biggest sporting events? NBA? Ill do screen shots.. Next post.

Johnny 55

I understand what you are saying....but let me ask you this or let me throw this out there w/no reponse needed.
You obviously are taking a huge hit from MB not being available to US players...cant confirm but I heard some players have found ways to get around "being blocked". or get agent/friend outside US

^^ Same way as people get around Betfair - need all the documentation. And if you were a US player - who got the boot - dont you think they would really look into your new application?

[todd73nj]

Here are some screen shots.

If you want to tell me Matchbook of a year to two years ago was better than Betmaker - I will agree.

If you want to tell me Betmaker has some stale lines. Id agree. But I would also tell you - if you are as smart as you say are to be making thousands per week on a whole, then you can easily find an opportunity with a middle to make thousands on one bet (with no risk) using these stales lines to your advantage - Because I certainly can find that.

If you want to tell me they need to add HT, and 2nd half lines - I will 100% agree.

If you want to tell me MB now is better than Betmaker, your are wrong. Unless you are talking about that whopping $52 that no one is swallowing up at -205 at Matchbook. But for everyione to be making thousands a week on a small scalping margin - there is nothing there.

MB was awesome - until the last year. And now - its just dead.

[todd73nj]

Here are the MB ones.. I ran out of upload room