Win4real.com confiscates 90k in winnings

yisman · 12-09-10, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by Lint Pockets

win4real

sounds like some ghetto website that some thug operates from his parents basement. just reading the name of the site alone and i would of never made a deposit there.

Exactly. Seeing the name today for the first time, it didn't even sound like a real sportsbook.

king · 12-09-10, 04:44 PM

90K is 8-9 months worth of work for me. That is like a full time career annual. I hope things go your way and you get paid. Thanks for the warning on whats going on if other have with them know also. I hope they won't say "we had a problem with our casino where our software tech messed up the software and allow you to win 70 percent of the time".

What's the connection between Sportsbetting.com, Racebook.com, and win4real

nenad · 12-09-10, 05:42 PM

are you 4 real;?

Dank_Fire · 12-09-10, 05:50 PM

You better fly down there if this is entirely true.

brxbmbers42 · 12-09-10, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by Lint Pockets

win4real

sounds like some ghetto website that some thug operates from his parents basement. just reading the name of the site alone and i would of never made a deposit there.

thats what im saying. i feel bad you got robbed bro but why the fukk would you play with them. as far as i know there are five books that people shoud be playing with and thats it. greek- jamaica- pinny if you are outside US and probably one or two more i dont know about.

ZerotoHero · 12-09-10, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by protein

90k.

Hmm... don´t know a player who´s growing the balance that much without withdrawal. At least You need to try to withdraw on 50k mark.

I had made one withdrawal of $9500 (the most they allow you in one time). Then they locked the account with the rest of my winnings.

noyb · 12-09-10, 06:34 PM

Originally posted by Hareeba!

They claim to be licensed by the Governor General of the Netherlands Antilles
I don't know how much regulation and power they exercise over their licensees but perhaps it's worth pleading your case to his office?

i wouldn't hold my breath. they don't care as long as the book pays their annual fees, these licenses aren't worth the paper they are printed on.

jackkkk2009 · 12-09-10, 10:43 PM

Can't believe that a C- site will steal their winning players. mostly, Only D- or lower sites will do that.

austin · 12-10-10, 12:17 AM

thanks for the update. but 90k...?... i wouldn't keep that much in one bank, little to say in a dodgy offshore bookie. hope sbr will help you out

solderjob · 12-10-10, 12:45 AM

The doubt is that when the "system glitch" really happens, did ZeroToHero actually done something "amazing" unknowingly with the system?
For eg: although balance is 100 left, but ZeroToHero can place a bet of 100000 , and this wager actually goes through!! And in the most optimistic outcome, ZeroToHero won the wager! - so the question is what has ZeroToHero done? what is the motive of ZeroToHero ?
For a person that have 90k locked away, the attitude that he is having is a bit of non-nonchalant.

BChrisB · 12-10-10, 01:19 AM

There's two problems here, and they both tell me the story can go either way.

1. It does seem odd anyone would be 10k invested in some Jazette book and never would've attempted to withdraw when he was at least up his initial investment.

2. The book won't even state in chat the real reason to why his account is locked and closed and are withholding betting history and transcripts.

Right now it's a coin toss with the information given.

Slainte · 12-10-10, 02:39 AM

Tough case indeed but still think there is more. Hope you get your justice.

LordVodka · 12-10-10, 03:17 AM

He claims he won some huge parlays and that's why the balance grew so much.

Hareeba! · 12-10-10, 03:31 AM

Originally posted by noyb

i wouldn't hold my breath. they don't care as long as the book pays their annual fees, these licenses aren't worth the paper they are printed on.

I certainly wouldn't be holding my breath but as all other avenues appear to be going nowhere what's the harm in giving it a try.

If nothing else it will confirm what you are saying about them.

BChrisB · 12-10-10, 03:57 AM

I also find it strikingly odd that there was no comment on the account for the CS and how the supervisor first says illicit funding then refers to taking advantage of software glitches.

I'm looking forward to SBR's follow-up on this complaint.

Dark Horse · 12-10-10, 04:24 AM

You did the right thing. You now have the reason why they closed your account on record. So that mystery is solved. Easy enough to counter that with records from the credit card company. And you filed a complaint with SBR. Now let the process unfold behind the scenes, and see where it goes before making it a public debate and giving the book more reason not to pay. If anybody can help you here it's SBR.

vercer · 12-10-10, 05:48 AM

Betfair (SBR rating A)

vercer · 12-10-10, 05:49 AM

Originally posted by jackkkk2009

Can't believe that a C- site will steal their winning players. mostly, Only D- or lower sites will do that.

Betfair (SBR rating A)

Hareeba! · 12-10-10, 06:54 AM

Originally posted by vercer

Betfair (SBR rating A)

post all the crap you want about them
those who know a damn site better know they are A+++
those who are so full of crap about them are simply missing out on using the best "book" on this planet

i_pick_winners1 · 12-10-10, 07:06 AM

this is easy:

until this guy provides SBR forum/complaints or us here on this thread a copy of his CC transactions clearing (with his sensitive information blacked out), you can just assume he made a ton of deposits chasing and finally rang up 90k on money that never cleared on the initial deposit. WE'VE ALL DONE IT. so w4r, even if it is a ghetto site, had a right to deny you winnings, because, as they said, they weren't from REAL deposits.

show me a CC statement proving 10k in deposits cleared. otherwise, you're full of shit.

have a nice day

HedgeHog · 12-10-10, 07:17 AM

In live chat, W4R claimed some glitch was exploited. Wish they would've gone into more detail. Glitch or no glitch, OP should at least get his deposits back if in fact they cleared. Otherwise the Book wins-for-real.

BChrisB · 12-10-10, 09:11 AM

Edward Kessman: Abe you took advantage of our withdrawal system to deposit into your own account money which you never sent to us, our security dept. realized what you did and seized the funds because those funds were never sent to us to begin with.

This is the part that makes absolutely ZERO sense to me: "Taking advantage of the withdrawal systems to deposit into you own account....."

Can someone decipher this?

HedgeHog · 12-10-10, 09:17 AM

Exactly!

"Took advantage of our withdrawal system to deposit into your account". How does one deposit via withdrawal? Perhaps this is where the glitch comes into play.

durito · 12-10-10, 09:51 AM

This same group tried to make me rollover 5k at $5 a bet. They aren't really very bright.

ZerotoHero · 12-12-10, 05:08 PM

I haven't heard a response back from SBR regarding my complaint yet still awaiting that.

There are no notes in my account, according to the CS rep. Then the supervisor tells me my deposits didn't clear. Then he says its a software glitch. I'm not even sure what the book is claiming I did wrong and until I know for sure, I don't know what information they want to provide. SBR help me please!

Justin7 · 12-12-10, 08:58 PM

Originally posted by ZerotoHero

I haven't heard a response back from SBR regarding my complaint yet still awaiting that.

There are no notes in my account, according to the CS rep. Then the supervisor tells me my deposits didn't clear. Then he says its a software glitch. I'm not even sure what the book is claiming I did wrong and until I know for sure, I don't know what information they want to provide. SBR help me please!

Zero,

I'm surprised you haven't heard back. I'm very interested in finding out more about your complaint.

Why don't you forward the confirm email you got to me at Justin at Sportsbookreview dot com? I'll try to push things along a bit. Things have been a bit clogged, as the flu seems to be running rampantly through the CR office.

ZerotoHero · 12-13-10, 01:59 AM

Originally posted by Justin7

Zero,

I'm surprised you haven't heard back. I'm very interested in finding out more about your complaint.

Why don't you forward the confirm email you got to me at Justin at Sportsbookreview dot com? I'll try to push things along a bit. Things have been a bit clogged, as the flu seems to be running rampantly through the CR office.

I never got a confirmation email. I'll resubmit a complaint now.

HedgeHog · 12-13-10, 07:27 AM

J7 & Z2H:

Keep us updated on how this is resolved. Thanks.

Monte · 12-13-10, 07:42 AM

Yea stick to Justin man, he seems to be the only guy with some power at sbr who actually talks to players on the forum.

Eagle1958 · 12-13-10, 12:19 PM

This is a fishy book. Why play there in the first place,

ZerotoHero · 12-14-10, 09:27 AM

Originally posted by Justin7

Zero,

I'm surprised you haven't heard back. I'm very interested in finding out more about your complaint.

Why don't you forward the confirm email you got to me at Justin at Sportsbookreview dot com? I'll try to push things along a bit. Things have been a bit clogged, as the flu seems to be running rampantly through the CR office.

Ok Justin forwarded you the complaint, thanks for your help.

Justin7 · 12-14-10, 10:50 AM

I'm on it. Give me some time.

cloudagh · 12-14-10, 11:00 AM

I am looking forward to Justin analysis of this.

paciophobia · 12-18-10, 03:53 AM

cant wait to hear about the outcome of this.

nli07 · 12-18-10, 11:59 AM

Man after reading this, I'm thankfyl I only bet with sites rated at least A