Pinnacle doesn't limit winning players is LIE!

[Sawyer]

Pinnacle has different limits for each user and your max bet limits are subject to change.
You can bet over and over again after line moves though as you know..

It doesn't matter if you're using a broker service or not.
If there's a period you lose often, you may notice your limits are increased dramatically.

After a period you won much in Pinnacle side(not a week or month, I'm talking about a longer period), you may notice your limits are slightly decreased Still, you can bet very good amounts in major leagues but minor leagues/sports' (ATP/WTA 250 Tournaments, Norway 1st division etc) are not very good.

Still, Pinnacle (and asian books such as Sbobet) are very honest, reliable, high limit books who don't kickout winning players but this limit issue is interesting. I had a period when I a bet 4-5k on a hockey game and line doesn't move even a cent. Now, line moves even if I bet a grand..

[RichardMrNice]

Limits do change the closer you get towards the event starting.

[Sawyer]

Limits do change the closer you get towards the event starting.

Yes but it doesn't have any relation with what i'm saying. I compared my max bet limit with other users in same time.

[Sawyer]

Tromsdalen-Alta game (Norway 1st Division). My max bet limit was1321€ while a friend of mine had 8369€. The difference is big.

[Smithers]

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/2176542-limited-pinnacle.html

Have a look there post #9 post #19 post #35

[allin1]

By betting the limit and waiting for the line to change you can keep betting your whole house and your friend's houses at pinnacle.

Usually the notion of being limited in the industry means how much you are allowed to bet on an outcome not how much you are allowed to bet in one instance. There is a huge difference here.

[easyliving]

betting over and over again after line moves is simply not a good idea as the line will move after every max bet you place.I've had this issue on 5dimes on many occasions. If you are placing 3-4 max wagers in a matter of 10 minutes the line might have moved 20-25 cents and while you're first wager might have been +115 for example on the 4th wager you might be laying even money or below. For props its even worse as I have seen lines move 40-50 cents within a matter of 15 minutes after placing a max wager everytime the lines moved.

[smoke a bowl]

Yes but it doesn't have any relation with what i'm saying. I compared my max bet limit with other users in same time.

I'm guessing it's an agent issue or the other account you are referring to with higher limits might be a 2-3X times limit account. Happens when the agent wants to book a piece of the action.

[alexwalstow]

I'm guessing it's an agent issue or the other account you are referring to with higher limits might be a 2-3X times limit account. Happens when the agent wants to book a piece of the action.

Incorrect, 4 other guys from work I watch the footy with also have Pinny accounts. One day we checked our limits and they were all vastly different even on huge markets such as EPL and NBA. Love how piny talks all that s h i t about books who give bonuses etc and how it's not worth it and then they go and put in that 5x deposit rollover shizz and they also say "We never limit" and "Arbers welcome" both of which are complete bull. They do limit. Why lie

[Bill Dozer]

Sawyer, what are you betting on?

[Sawyer]

Sawyer, what are you betting on?

Soccer, Basket, Tennis, Hockey mostly.

[Sawyer]

Incorrect, 4 other guys from work I watch the footy with also have Pinny accounts. One day we checked our limits and they were all vastly different even on huge markets such as EPL and NBA. Love how piny talks all that s h i t about books who give bonuses etc and how it's not worth it and then they go and put in that 5x deposit rollover shizz and they also say "We never limit" and "Arbers welcome" both of which are complete bull. They do limit. Why lie

Yes, they do limit but still I appreciate Pinnacle's betting structure. Yes, they do limit but at least, they don't cut your limits to ridicilious amounts. They welcome arbitrage traders but only if you're losing. Arbitrage Traders are doomed to lose over long haul in Pinnacle but let's underline over long haul word. You may have crazy winning streaks where you won a lot in Pinnacle.

By betting the limit and waiting for the line to change you can keep betting your whole house and your friend's houses at pinnacle.

Yes. Please read carefully, that's what I'm saying above. You can bet over and over again, theoritically you can bet INFINITE amount in Pinnacle if you accept odd/line change.

Usually the notion of being limited in the industry means how much you are allowed to bet on an outcome not how much you are allowed to bet in one instance. There is a huge difference here.

The problem is, when Max Bet is 3000€, you can bet 3000€ at one click without any change(s). When your Max Bet limis is 1000€, you will get worse odds for your next bet(s).

I asked a friend of mine to open an account with Pinnacle and guess what? His fresh account has x8 higher limit then my account. Go figure..

I'm fine with my limits in major leagues and US Sports but not happy with minor league limits like ATP/WTA 250 Tournaments or Brazil, Norway 1st division. In the past, even my Challenger Tennis limits were huge.

Didn't had the same problem in Sbobet though..And Sbobet's Soccer limits are pretty decent. ( but Tennis, Basket awful)

[jjgold]

I'm sure many of these high-volume books have betting profiling software in place

Like Sawyer said pinnacle still the best

[allin1]

I asked a friend of mine to open an account with Pinnacle and guess what? His fresh account has x8 higher limit then my account. Go figure..

Treat it as a compliment or badge of honor as they consider you sharper in those markets.

I don't think they are imposing this because they want to make it hard for sharps, I think they are doing it to protect themselves and it probably happens only in the smaller markets.

[Bill Dozer]

By betting the limit and waiting for the line to change you can keep betting your whole house and your friend's houses at pinnacle.

Usually the notion of being limited in the industry means how much you are allowed to bet on an outcome not how much you are allowed to bet in one instance. There is a huge difference here.

Right, 5dimes the same way. The situation never exists that your sitting with a $10k balance and are only able to get down $250 no matter how much you like the play. If you like a team at +120 or better that is currently at +140 youre going to be able to bet the farm before that 20 cents moves off your action alone. The idea is you dont bet $120k on +140 right before it moves to +135 leaving the book unable to balance your action.

[smoke a bowl]

Incorrect, 4 other guys from work I watch the footy with also have Pinny accounts. One day we checked our limits and they were all vastly different even on huge markets such as EPL and NBA. Love how piny talks all that s h i t about books who give bonuses etc and how it's not worth it and then they go and put in that 5x deposit rollover shizz and they also say "We never limit" and "Arbers welcome" both of which are complete bull. They do limit. Why lie

I'm calling BS or at least misinformation. I know 10+ seven figure lifetime winners at pinny and none of their limits have ever been reduced.

[OTL]

I'm not buying that they limit individual players. What I have noticed though is that their limits will fluctuate depending on the size of the card for the day. Smaller cards will have lower maximums for each league.

[Smithers]

There is a base limit for clients which sets the lower bar for all clients and also is the limit they advertise on their Twitter account or in Emails.
So for example MLB right now the base limit on uncircled games is 10k USD ML 10k USD Spread 5k USD total.
The Soccer World Cup they advertise 100k on Spreads as Base limit right now but only offer 4k USD today as base limit
Some clients have increased limits but no client is ever lowered below the base limit.
If you have 10k 10k 5k in MLB you have a base limit ( like I do).

[jjgold]

Pinnacle one of best high limit and all winners welcome books

Sometimes complaints or criticism against a book is from a competitor or just a guy with a grudge

[lecubs28]

Pinnacle one of best high limit and all winners welcome books

Sometimes complaints or criticism against a book is from a competitor or just a guy with a grudge

and sometimes praise for a book comes from a recreational small time losing gambler who has no clue what he's talking about

[jjgold]

Pinnacle probably overall top book in the world

Nothing close for all sports around globe

[Hareeba!]

Pinnacle probably overall top book in the world

Nothing close for all sports around globe

Probably quite so but that's just avoiding addressing the subject matter of this thread!

[jjgold]

I'm not buying that they limit individual players. What I have noticed though is that their limits will fluctuate depending on the size of the card for the day. Smaller cards will have lower maximums for each league.

That might b best answer actually

Hareeba no need for concern, they love your action

[Sawyer]

I'm not buying that they limit individual players. What I have noticed though is that their limits will fluctuate depending on the size of the card for the day. Smaller cards will have lower maximums for each league.

we compared in major leagues too. we compared limits in exactly same games and max bet limits were different.

[Sawyer]

PINNACLE CASE SOLVED!

Pinnacle welcomes winning players. However, they offer lower (or let's say regular) limits for these players cause this way, they can shape their odds. If Max Bet Limit is 1200€, then you can change odds/lines even when you bet 500€.

Like other books, Pinnacle Sports like losing players too. If you're a losing player (or an arbitrage trader), they increase your limits by time. Reason? Easy Answer; They're not interested in your action! They don't want you to shape/change their lines since your opinion is worthless to them. You will notice that you won't be able to shape/change odds even after you bet 4-5k! Why? Because Max Bet limit is garguantuan.

It's a machine. It's a software. It adjusts your limits according to your profile.

Still, I appreciate Pinnacle for their business model. At least, they don't limit you to ridicilious amounts like european bookies. However, We Don't Limit Winning Players motto is not really true. We can call it "We decrease winning players' limits a little bit in order to let them shape our odds. We welcome losers though. We give them higher limits because we don't want them to shape/change our odds!"

[easyliving]

PINNACLE CASE SOLVED!

Pinnacle welcomes winning players. However, they offer lower (or let's say regular) limits for these players cause this way, they can shape their odds. If Max Bet Limit is 1200€, then you can change odds/lines even when you bet 500€.

Like other books, Pinnacle Sports like losing players too. If you're a losing player (or an arbitrage trader), they increase your limits by time. Reason? Easy Answer; They're not interested in your action! They don't want you to shape/change their lines since your opinion is worthless to them. You will notice that you won't be able to shape/change odds even after you bet 4-5k! Why? Because Max Bet limit is garguantuan.

It's a machine. It's a software. It adjusts your limits according to your profile.

Still, I appreciate Pinnacle for their business model. At least, they don't limit you to ridicilious amounts like european bookies. However, We Don't Limit Winning Players motto is not really true. We can call it "We decrease winning players' limits a little bit in order to let them shape our odds. We welcome losers though. We give them higher limits because we don't want them to shape/change our odds!"

very informative post thanks for sharing Sawyer. This post has cleared up alot of things about pinnacle for many of us here.

[Hareeba!]

Pinnacle's General Rule #10;

1. Minimum and maximum wager amounts on all sporting events will be determined by Pinnacle Sports and are subject to change without prior written notice. Pinnacle Sports also reserves the right to adjust limits on individual accounts as well.
   

[dance1959]

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[Hareeba!]

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