BetPhoenix Are Stealing Money...BEWARE
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j-e-t-s jetsRestricted User
- 08-09-08
- 346
#106Comment -
twisterSBR Sharp
- 09-09-08
- 405
#108Some people don't seem to get it.
They call the OP a dumbass for revealing how BP were allowing correlated parlays, yet BP already KNEW about the correlated parlays and that's how the whole mess started in the first place. He hasn't "let the cat out of the bag" at all.
So, unless BP knew about this issue and were STILL going to allow people to place these correlated parlays (which I highly doubt - unless they are thick as shit), then he made a +EV move in going for his $300 back.Comment -
j-e-t-s jetsRestricted User
- 08-09-08
- 346
#109Some people don't seem to get it.
They call the OP a dumbass for revealing how BP were allowing correlated parlays, yet BP already KNEW about the correlated parlays and that's how the whole mess started in the first place. He hasn't "let the cat out of the bag" at all.
So, unless BP knew about this issue and were STILL going to allow people to place these correlated parlays (which I highly doubt - unless they are thick as shit), then he made a +EV move in going for his $300 back.Comment -
The BishopSBR Sharp
- 08-21-09
- 311
#110
The fact that you still don't get it is unreal. I wasn't one of the people betting these, but if I was I would be ****ing furious.Comment -
trumpdownSBR Wise Guy
- 01-21-09
- 755
#111The question remains if those who were making them and winning, and most importantly getting paid there was a great travesty on this information spilling out. If BP on the other hand "doesn't allow these bets" after they win only, and were not paying winners then they were in fact freerolling this "opportunity" By the sounds of it I'd say it was the former.
Not sure J-E-T-S understands either way, guess you can only spell so much out for him. But honestly he just doesn't know any better. Still what BP was wrong changin his bet, but he obviously would've kept his mouth shut if he knew how to win with this strategy.Comment -
FishheadSBR Aristocracy
- 08-11-05
- 40179
#112Most posters realize that BP is a top five book in operation right now.Comment -
BET THE HOOKSBR MVP
- 02-16-09
- 1947
#113I had a no +200 or more rule on my promotion.
Then I placed a few +300 bets, and they allowed it.
Then they said oh, that's ok. So I should be good. But later, someone else could tell me I cant cash out cuz I put in a +300 bet, and they would be right too.
So, they shouldn't allow these bets with freeplay.
Oddsmaker.com does the same thing. You have to follow the rules on your own, cuz they won't help you folllow the guidelines.Comment -
BET THE HOOKSBR MVP
- 02-16-09
- 1947
#114Firts of all jets you are a dumbass for 2 reasons. The first being the way you wagered on correlated game lines when it is clearly against the rules on their website and everybody elses. The second is for fishing for negative publicity with yout thread title instead of just calling Richard and dealing with this like a man instead of dealing with some rep working late at night who has no stroke to do anything but follow the rules. That being said I do believe that if the wagers were against the rules your wagers should be cancelled and you should have your 400 credited to your account as well as the next deposit you sent. Remember that when players find glitches on software and break the rules it causes problems for everybody and eventually you will get caught. Cheaters never win and winners never cheat. Call Richard and fix this. SBR never had to even follow up on your complaint. Richard would probably do the right thing and give you all your money because thats the right thing to do. Good luck and play fair if you want to be played fair with.Comment -
BET THE HOOKSBR MVP
- 02-16-09
- 1947
#115I made my post before I sifted through all this and realized you got your money. I am glad you got it but you really should email Richard@betphoenix.com if he is not who you dealt with and he probably will reverse the plays alltogether and give you back your 400 because if the plays were illegal they never should have existed.Comment -
JerseyShop101Restricted User
- 09-04-08
- 2704
#116Jets,
How many correlated if-bets have you won at BP?
You did know what you were doing was wrong, regardless if their software accepted the wager correct?
A few weeks ago, Bookmakers software erroneously allowed wagers of Teams on the ML parlayed with the same teams on the pointspread. I wouldn't doubt if BM still went ahead and paid them- at least if it was for smaller amounts. But you will definitely be known as a shot taker, and they could, and rightfully so, close your account.
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JerseyShop101Restricted User
- 09-04-08
- 2704
#117I always take a team with the over or a team total with over.........greek always accepts a team plus the over...-7 over 47 etc. I have no idea about these corrolated parlay rules........wasnt trying to cheat anyone.......lost my ass on these wagers.
But the fact remains if I go to a window and vegas and place a wager.......and they accept the wager........then it's a legal bet. I even called in these wagers when the system was down for a week straight and never a problem.....of course I lost the wagers. I wonder what wouldve happen if I won??
You should get a reward for bringing this to BP's attention, but then again they could say, you were exploiting it (even though you lost). The most common correlated parlay we all know about is one where the spread is 33% or more of the game total. Like todays Boise St game, BST -46, total 58, a whopping 79%.Comment -
betphoenixSBR High Roller
- 10-24-07
- 244
#118Comment -
BigDaddySBR Hall of Famer
- 02-01-06
- 8378
#119reward the shot taker?
if they do that it would make me sick.
unreal thinking.Comment -
JerseyShop101Restricted User
- 09-04-08
- 2704
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JerseyShop101Restricted User
- 09-04-08
- 2704
#121Hey BigDaddy,
You were trying to tell him that he was killing his own Golden Goose, but from his post above he states that he really didn't know it wasn't allowed, and that he was still losing his azz doing them. So maybe there is some truth to that.Comment -
FishheadSBR Aristocracy
- 08-11-05
- 40179
#122BetPhoenix operates a first rate shop, they do not need shottakers.Comment -
BigDaddySBR Hall of Famer
- 02-01-06
- 8378
#123
the kid knew what he was doing 100%
that is why he played them in reverses
wake upComment -
j-e-t-s jetsRestricted User
- 08-09-08
- 346
#124BigDaddy- you are showing how low your IQ is so please save u and ur family the embarrasement and stop posting. You have no clue....stop jerking off to kiddie porn and go do something productive with ur unproductive life. Spend some time with ur wife........god knows every other guy in the neighborhood isComment -
j-e-t-s jetsRestricted User
- 08-09-08
- 346
#125The are a good book. If anyone has looked at my previous books, I had them as an A book up until yesterday. NO WHERE on the website does it mention taking team totals with game over..........
So LittleDaddy and the rest can take your "shot taking" and shove it up ur fat azz
If it's against the rules post it............And if its not ALLOWED DONT ACCEPT THE WAGERComment -
FishheadSBR Aristocracy
- 08-11-05
- 40179
#126The are a good book. If anyone has looked at my previous books, I had them as an A book up until yesterday. NO WHERE on the website does it mention taking team totals with game over..........
So LittleDaddy and the rest can take your "shot taking" and shove it up ur fat azz
If it's against the rules post it............And if its not ALLOWED DONT ACCEPT THE WAGER
The entire SBR staff will be reviewing this case up until Christmas and beyond.Comment -
j-e-t-s jetsRestricted User
- 08-09-08
- 346
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SSLPSBR Hall of Famer
- 02-29-08
- 5232
#128BP handled it .. as usual these guys respond to feedback and player issues better than any book out there.
Done threadComment -
j-e-t-s jetsRestricted User
- 08-09-08
- 346
#130
1) My balance was 400.
2) I placed a wager with a max bet of $400
3) I clearly lost the bet- no big deal
4) I deposit 300 more
5) They tell me I don't get the 300 becasue my previous bet was inadvertantly accepted for $880
That was the issue ......it had nothing to do with the wager itself........but the reason I was given by the clerk was "our system inadvertantly took the bet for $880 even though you only had $400" SO when you deposited additional money we took it to pay for the previous bet...........your bet was really not a legal bet anyway so you got what you deserved.......
That was my issueComment -
FishheadSBR Aristocracy
- 08-11-05
- 40179
#132Never asked anyone to investigate it.........facts are facts
1) My balance was 400.
2) I placed a wager with a max bet of $400
3) I clearly lost the bet- no big deal
4) I deposit 300 more
5) They tell me I don't get the 300 becasue my previous bet was inadvertantly accepted for $880
That was the issue ......it had nothing to do with the wager itself........but the reason I was given by the clerk was "our system inadvertantly took the bet for $880 even though you only had $400" SO when you deposited additional money we took it to pay for the previous bet...........your bet was really not a legal bet anyway so you got what you deserved.......
That was my issue
Has THE GENERAL investigated this issue......if not, PM him.
He is a former MarineComment -
j-e-t-s jetsRestricted User
- 08-09-08
- 346
#133
BP realized they were wrong and credited back the 300- they did what was right- it was their screw up. No need for additional investigation.
I will not push to have the original bet refunded like some have suggested. I bet/ I lost that's fine...they keep my 400 on an "illegal bet"..........i just hope if it won they would have paid since they accepted it.Comment -
FishheadSBR Aristocracy
- 08-11-05
- 40179
#134BP realized they were wrong and credited back the 300- they did what was right- it was their screw up. No need for additional investigation.
I will not push to have the original bet refunded like some have suggested. I bet/ I lost that's fine...they keep my 400 on an "illegal bet"..........i just hope if it won they would have paid since they accepted it.
BP stays top five
Thank you for you time DougComment -
acarmelo1SBR Hall of Famer
- 09-29-09
- 6321
#135First of all The clerck should had been fired for being rude
second if it was a glitch is thier blame, and I am happy they gave you the $300 back
Third Clerks should be train to see when you are making corelated parlays, we are customers, we expect respect, and trained clerks!!!Comment -
FishheadSBR Aristocracy
- 08-11-05
- 40179
#136First of all The clerck should had been fired for being rude
second if it was a glitch is thier blame, and I am happy they gave you the $300 back
Third Clerks should be train to see when you are making corelated parlays, we are customers, we expect respect, and trained clerks!!!Comment -
acarmelo1SBR Hall of Famer
- 09-29-09
- 6321
#137Comment -
j-e-t-s jetsRestricted User
- 08-09-08
- 346
#139First of all The clerck should had been fired for being rude
second if it was a glitch is thier blame, and I am happy they gave you the $300 back
Third Clerks should be train to see when you are making corelated parlays, we are customers, we expect respect, and trained clerks!!!
The situation was handled to my satisfaction. In my previous posts on this forum I have only reco'd 2 books: greek and BP. I still feel the same but was dissapointed with the customer service. Maybe it was just a night clerk who didnt have a clue.
Thank you Richard and thank you SBR!Comment
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