Fu**ed by BOOKMAKER (mod plz read)

[RoagBettor]

Too much talk about losing in this thread. C'mon guys, positive Karma!

[Coming Back!]

Coming Back!,

I would have closed out my account with them also because it is horrible not have a method of payout for $3,000 to $5,000. I think you will be happy with the greek and I hope that you do a 4x rollover without losing too much. I think you will be pleased with the greek on how they handle things also. You will get paid from them when you win and after the rollover is finished and they will not do what bookmaker did to you either. As long as you are a good customer the greek will treat you right. I am with their sister site Bet Jamaica and they even have a debit card that you can withdrawal from and that would even be better than the greek is in my opinion. For higher end players you will be better off with the greek.

Thanks for the support bro!

[tblues2005]

Just hang in there Coming Back with the greek. You will be happy with them. I have been with that company for 15 years now and they will pay and pay quickly also. Much quicker than Bookmaker for sure. If you want a fed ex check it will be at your door if you call early enough the next day. I have cashed out with them 3 times and they have been very fast on paying out every time. It is like money in the bank with them. They are truly a A+ book.

[Don99]

I stopped using BOOMMAKER for good as well.

They have no problems taking my deposits and I dropped about $10,000 with them in a few months.

Then, I reloaded and won some money. Wanted a payout and they gave me the same grief.

I did a sportsbook transfer to 5Dimes and they charges me $100.

When I did a sportsbook transfer from 5Dimes to the gree or to matchbook, there was no fee. So the $100 must be another fee that they are charging. And now, I read that they are bouncing checks.

Why use them when you can use 5Dimes, thegreek, BetPhoenix and many others with no difficulties in getting a payout.

[betpartners]

Can this really be true of a A+ book that is not European, surely not

Love the advice that some give saying gamble it bloody hilarious

This forum is legendary

[CS-Cedrick]

Yes, Bookmaker have their rules...but you could just ask them for $3000 now and another $1000 next Monday.

But I understand your point, where the **** all the common sense go ? After you lost 30K they should be a little bit more flexible. Did you called the Payout Department ? Those idiots at the CS are useless...you need to go straight to the Payout Dep. or ask to speak to a Manager...and don't get ANGRY, when you get angry in dealing with CS you lose.

Thanks for the compliment maersksealand

Coming back!, sorry to hear about your issue sir, I personally assisted you and gave my suggetions, there's no way we could control a rollover found in a different company though. Sad to hear about the whole issue.

[PAPSMEAR]

I have no problem with the x4 time rollover on the transfer of funds from one book to another. I do have an issue with being made to jump through hoops to get what is legally yours from the initial book. It's akin to a bank telling you you can only withdraw your savings at times and in amounts acceptable to them. It doesn't happen and wouldn't happen for obvious reasons as the public at large would simply not accept it. It is your money and you are entitled to it. FULL STOP. Joke book. Scum. Like you said, only positive is that you've seen the light and closed your account. GL with x4 rollover. Depends on how quick you want your money. If you are in a hurry for it go all in four times on -500 type shots - I'd suggest some NBA type games where the Celtics or Orlanda or Spurs are playing at home against tard type teams. If you have time on your hands relax, be patient, limit your bets, perhaps take some time off, study hard, tail an SBR poster and kick a goal by accumulating some additional cash whilst you meet the rollover requirements.

[TeamPlayer]

you can blame your goverment for those withdraw limit

You can get up to 10k with moneybooker in any sportsbook, only catch is you can not live in the usa.

Correct. The real blame lies with the Republicans such as Bill Frist and John Kyle, who created and secretly passed the UIEGA bill without any debate. And then George Bush who signed it into law.

Also, banks have to report any check over 3000 as "suspicious activity" to the FBI. So there are clear reasons why the sportsbooks have their rules. People need to understand that the USA is not the "land of the free." It's a line in a song, not reality

[5050]

LOL

[Coming Back!]

Thanks for the compliment maersksealand

Coming back!, sorry to hear about your issue sir, I personally assisted you and gave my suggetions, there's no way we could control a rollover found in a different company though. Sad to hear about the whole issue.

I appreciate you commenting Cedrick. I have no problem with you. You were professional when dealing with me. I do have a problem with the policy of not being able to withdraw between $3,000- $5,000 at one time. I know that's beyond your control. And I also have a problem with Nicki the manager. Come on Cedrick, I know your in a tough spot, but your telling me she can't waive my stupid 1 time rolllover. That's crazy and that's why I closed my account. You could verify that I was a good client and lost about $30,000 this year. It is what it is. I'm over it. Quite frankly, I'm going to end up saving money in the long run because your cc option was killing me. I was making anger bets like crazy. Take care bro

[Coming Back!]

I have no problem with the x4 time rollover on the transfer of funds from one book to another. I do have an issue with being made to jump through hoops to get what is legally yours from the initial book. It's akin to a bank telling you you can only withdraw your savings at times and in amounts acceptable to them. It doesn't happen and wouldn't happen for obvious reasons as the public at large would simply not accept it. It is your money and you are entitled to it. FULL STOP. Joke book. Scum. Like you said, only positive is that you've seen the light and closed your account. GL with x4 rollover. Depends on how quick you want your money. If you are in a hurry for it go all in four times on -500 type shots - I'd suggest some NBA type games where the Celtics or Orlanda or Spurs are playing at home against tard type teams. If you have time on your hands relax, be patient, limit your bets, perhaps take some time off, study hard, tail an SBR poster and kick a goal by accumulating some additional cash whilst you meet the rollover requirements.

Thanks for the advice.

[Coming Back!]

I appreciate you commenting Cedrick. I have no problem with you. You were professional when dealing with me. I do have a problem with the policy of not being able to withdraw between $3,000- $5,000 at one time. I know that's beyond your control. And I also have a problem with Nicki the manager. Come on Cedrick, I know your in a tough spot, but your telling me she can't waive my stupid 1 time rolllover. That's crazy and that's why I closed my account. You could verify that I was a good client and lost about $30,000 this year. It is what it is. I'm over it. Quite frankly, I'm going to end up saving money in the long run because your cc option was killing me. I was making anger bets like crazy. Take care bro

To clarify further- Once my transfer to thegreek was processed and they informed me about the 4 time rollover, I immediately called BM and spoke w Nicki the manager. I told her I wanted to transfer $$$ back to BM from the greek and take a $3,000 check. She explained to me that if I was to transfer the $$$ back to BM that I would have to complete a 1 time rollover before I requested a wd. I asked her to make a 1 time exception and she told me- NO. That's when i decided to close my BM account. I'd rather attempt a 4 time rollover at thegreek than a 1 time rolloover with BM because I felt I was being wronged.

[feltball]

It is not that bad to have to wait for two checks. Seems like your real beef resulted because you didn't read the rules before you did the transfers.

[bettilimbroke999]

I am in this business and I have to agree with "coming back", there is no reson why they should put those poor assed restrictions on money that was won fair and square...as far as charging for transfers to other books, now that is low especialy from a large book like that..there is no personal attention there, if I had a guy that has lost with me and he asked for money when he won. I would not hesitate, he would have it..I can understand the rollover at the greek but if they give you a rollover shouldn't they give you a bonus? This is not good business. but they can afford it I guess....

Well said how can you charge for a transfer, I mean I understand the Greek requiring rollover so they dont become a payment processor but how does BM feel a $100 fee for transferring your account is justified, what does it take to transfer funds about 2 secs of their time?

[Emily_Haines]

Jeez, What's so hard about taking 3000 and waiting a week for the other 1000?

Did you really believe that greek was going to accept a transfer for 4000 and let you withdraw it without putting any of it in action? Hello, they are a gambling shop, not a money transfer house.

[bettilimbroke999]

The rollover requirement isnt nearly as shocking (although 4 fukin times is ridiculous, maybe 1 or 2 but 4 damn that's about what you get with a freeplay). Charging ppl 100 bucks to withdraw is fukin insane, I mean how hard is it to transfer funds to the Greek, how do they justify a 100 fee? Why not make it a 500 fee since so many suckers are willing to pay it and defend it as "standard" when others complain, clearly the suckers defending these fees have never gotten a payout so they could care less

[CS-Cedrick]

To clarify further- Once my transfer to thegreek was processed and they informed me about the 4 time rollover, I immediately called BM and spoke w Nicki the manager. I told her I wanted to transfer $$$ back to BM from the greek and take a $3,000 check. She explained to me that if I was to transfer the $$$ back to BM that I would have to complete a 1 time rollover before I requested a wd. I asked her to make a 1 time exception and she told me- NO. That's when i decided to close my BM account. I'd rather attempt a 4 time rollover at thegreek than a 1 time rolloover with BM because I felt I was being wronged.

Sorry to hear you're not pleased with the co. It was my pleasure though to have helped you out sir. I wish you good luck with the rollover and you will hopefully get your funds after completing it. You take care of yourself as well.

[Coming Back!]

Jeez, What's so hard about taking 3000 and waiting a week for the other 1000?

Did you really believe that greek was going to accept a transfer for 4000 and let you withdraw it without putting any of it in action? Hello, they are a gambling shop, not a money transfer house.

Honestly, I made a big mistake not researching the rollover requirement at thegreek. It was my first book to book transfer. I have no problem whatsoever w thegreek. They have the best payout processors available for US customers.

Addressing your second point- YES, it is a big deal to wait a week for the other $1000. I won and I want to get paid. When I lose (which usually happens), I PAY. There's no song and dance, no waiting for me to pay, no 7 day rules. If there is going to be no payout method between $3,000-$5,000. Then, there can't be a 7 day waiting period for another payout. To me, that is unacceptable. Especially when I'm routinely between the $3000- $5000 mark when I have a winning week.

[blix177]

Coming Back you should remember all this, and when they call and beg you call, tell them to take their 4x roll over and shove it up their ass. Go support betphoenix or pinny or matchbook. Never had a problem with them. beside matchbooks ddos attack a few weeks ago.

[AceKingHigh]

Damn bro, that sucks balls! why you all go with the small fishes? why not use bwin or sportsbook.com !?

[Monk]

Not being able to withdraw from 3k to 5k certainly is annoying, but waiting a week for just 1k shouldn't be such a problem. Look at it from other perspective: there are bookies where you would wait a week for all 4k. And there are even bookies, where you would wait your whole life for your money to come. Also I am sure, that if I knew about all this crap before, you would have withdrawn 3k and waited for 1k. That leads us to conclusion, that it is always advisable to read the rules.

[GELATINOUS CUBE]

Just get 2 checks for $2500. Um, i see why you lost $26,000. But yeah, you can't get exactly four grand at once. Wow, who cares.

[GELATINOUS CUBE]

Or put $4000 on the colts moneyline tomorrow, then you'll have 5-something, then get a money wire.

[InTheHole]

Closed out my bookmaker account. I finally have a winning day. I go to request $4000 thru bankwire, but the minimum is $5000. Can't get a check because the maximum is $3000. I ask if there is anyway to get the $4000 out. Yeah sure, a $3000 check and then in 7 days another withdrawal. Are u kidding? Then I request a book to book transfer to thegreek. It costs $100, but I figure I could get a check from thegreek. Nope. There is a 4 time rollover requirement I didn't even dream about. Thegreek tells me they would transfer funds back to bookmaker for free. I call bookmaker and the Manager- Niki, tells me I would have to do a rollover before I requset a withdrawal. I was outraged. I tell Niki, who has no common sense that I probably lost $30,000 easy this year at CRIS and that I'm a solid customer. She tells me no exceptions. UNREAL. I told her, she'll never see another dime from me and to close my account. Now I'm stuck w $4,000 in thegreek w a 4 time rollover. When I lose that, I'm closing out my account at thegreek too. Enough w this bullshit

What made you think The Greek would honor your withdrawal?

[InTheHole]

Damn bro, that sucks balls! why you all go with the small fishes? why not use bwin or sportsbook.com !?

[Coming Back!]

Hey, In the Hole, I had to laugh to at the idea of using sportsbook.com as well. Anyway, I made a mistake not researching the rollover requirements at thegreek. It was my first book to book and I screwed it up. I have no problem with thegreek at all. I was just pissed when I posted about thegreek. Thegreek has the best payout processors for US players. To me that makes greek the best. I stated my problem with bookmaker numerous times. I'm happy I closed my account with them.

[michael777]

always read the rules son,always complete your rollovers and stop looking for free money

[Coming Back!]

always read the rules son,always complete your rollovers and stop looking for free money

I'm not your son. How was I looking for free $$$? Why don't you read the post properly before making useless comments SON?

[Coming Back!]

Finished rollover and cashed out $7,000

[Bill Dozer]

Closed out my bookmaker account. I finally have a winning day. I go to request $4000 thru bankwire, but the minimum is $5000. Can't get a check because the maximum is $3000. I ask if there is anyway to get the $4000 out. Yeah sure, a $3000 check and then in 7 days another withdrawal. Are u kidding? Then I request a book to book transfer to thegreek. It costs $100, but I figure I could get a check from thegreek. Nope. There is a 4 time rollover requirement I didn't even dream about. Thegreek tells me they would transfer funds back to bookmaker for free. I call bookmaker and the Manager- Niki, tells me I would have to do a rollover before I requset a withdrawal. I was outraged. I tell Niki, who has no common sense that I probably lost $30,000 easy this year at CRIS and that I'm a solid customer. She tells me no exceptions. UNREAL. I told her, she'll never see another dime from me and to close my account. Now I'm stuck w $4,000 in thegreek w a 4 time rollover. When I lose that, I'm closing out my account at thegreek too. Enough w this bullshit

Coming Back,

Bookmaker said they will accept your transfer back without the rollover and they will process your bank wire for $3,000. Ask for Mgr. Monica.

BM also said your feedback helped change the rule. They will be processing wires for $3,000 min.

[tblues2005]

Bill that was real decent of them to do this. It shows they they need to change this rule. They adjusted it. I hope Coming Back gets the message. I think you may want to PM him to let him know this also Bill.

[Bill Dozer]

Bill that was real decent of them to do this. It shows they they need to change this rule. They adjusted it. I hope Coming Back gets the message. I think you may want to PM him to let him know this also Bill.

Good idea. I will do that. Bookmaker just added the following positive changes:

1) Payouts expected to reach players from 24 to 72 hrs
2) $3,000 min bank wire
3) Clients can request as many payments as they want but only one is free

and probably the most important one, there currently is no rollover required for transfers to Bookmaker (no bonuses on transfers).

[Thremp]

Hrm. So Bookmaker is willing to work as a payment clearinghouse?

[Bill Dozer]

I'm sure if people abuse it it will be limited, hopefully on a per account basis.

[Thremp]

I guess with their current fee schedule and the fact its only via wire... It isn't that big of a deal. Though I'll probably abuse it while it lasts.