Why so many books ahead of Heritage in ratings?

**Tomato** · 10-13-09, 10:59 PM

Heritage isn't a sponsor.

**mtneer1212** · 10-13-09, 11:09 PM

Heritage should be an A- at minimum.

**purecarnagge** · 10-14-09, 12:04 AM

Originally posted by Tomato

Heritage isn't a sponsor.

Thats a good thing sometimes.

**flyingillini** · 10-14-09, 12:28 AM

The should be A+, by far the best book out there. You will get paid, the best customer service, not one book can come close to what they do for me. They are an all around perfect operation. When you hear people bash them, it is people that probably don't play with them.

**flyingillini** · 10-14-09, 12:29 AM

Originally posted by purecarnagge

Thats a good thing sometimes.

I agree, I am happy they are not a sponsor and I would hate to see them on sbrlines as well.. I want it to stay just the way it is.

**CollegePro** · 10-14-09, 01:47 AM

and it's impossible to sign up with them for some people like me...

**CollegePro** · 10-14-09, 01:49 AM

Originally posted by CollegePro

and it's impossible to sign up with them for some people like me...

just to add little more to this comment, so for person like me, I would give them B+ base on what I hear others saying.... no experience with them so can't give them anywhere near A+

**Peep** · 10-14-09, 07:59 AM

far as I can see, they have limited offerings and limited funding. By limited offerings I mean a lack of props. By limited funding I mean no e-money, not even moneybookers.

And they accept limited clientele. What is that all about, they think that keeps feds out that want in? I don't understand that part either.

All of which are negatives. Doesn't make them a bad book, but doesn't make them a great book either.

**blackbart** · 10-14-09, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by Peep

far as I can see, they have limited offerings and limited funding. By limited offerings I mean a lack of props. By limited funding I mean no e-money, not even moneybookers.

And they accept limited clientele. What is that all about, they think that keeps feds out that want in? I don't understand that part either.

All of which are negatives. Doesn't make them a bad book, but doesn't make them a great book either.

all valid points, they are certainly "different". Wont allow me to refer people, cause i haven't played there long enough.

**HedgeHog** · 10-14-09, 08:35 AM

I do think Heritage is an A+ Book for the lucky ones, myself included, who are allowed to play there. They are expanding their customer base slowly so that they can continue to provide top notch service to current clients--according to Kyle at Heritage. By next football season, I'll bet they will be able to take on many more new people.

**Peep** · 10-14-09, 02:16 PM

OK, so I am one of the "lucky ones".

I can play there. But I don't.

I don't see any unique offers (compared say to BetPhoenix, which does occasionally express an opinion), lines see very cookie cutter.

Limited props, if any, on most events.

What am I missing? Friendly customer service people are great, but bottom line is betting.

**HedgeHog** · 10-14-09, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by Peep

OK, so I am one of the "lucky ones".

I can play there. But I don't.

I don't see any unique offers (compared say to BetPhoenix, which does occasionally express an opinion), lines see very cookie cutter.

Limited props, if any, on most events.

What am I missing? Friendly customer service people are great, but bottom line is betting.

1) Get out of your bet at halftime for free (twice per month).

2) Lose your first deposit and they replace it for free

3) Even money teasers on 2 team/ 6 points

4) 14/5 on two team pars ( if you switch to 108 lines on straights)

5) Lines that move a bit slower than other Books

**themajormt** · 10-14-09, 03:07 PM

Peep their lines are definitely opinionated/slow to move... I have gotten a whole 2 extra point hours after its moved on saturdays games numerous times...

**Hareeba!** · 10-14-09, 03:08 PM

That's one book I've never had anything to do with
Looks to me that they offer only American sports ?

**mintpicks79** · 10-14-09, 04:26 PM

They gave me a free $1,000 account. Anybody else get this?

**pimike** · 10-14-09, 04:32 PM

No one comes even close. Once your in its kinda like a private club for the elect.

**Dark Horse** · 10-14-09, 05:07 PM

Only have good things to say about them. Low rating is a mystery to me. If I had to pick a top 5 Heritage would be in it (along with Matchbook, Pinny, 5Dimes, and Oly).

**The Bishop** · 10-14-09, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by HedgeHog

3) Even money teasers on 2 team/ 6 points

What?? I get -110. Do I have to switch to -108 straights for this as well?

Originally posted by HedgeHog

5) Lines that move a bit slower than other Books

Does this by chance include NBA sides or better yet college hoops totals? I just signed up before football season.

**Chuck Sims** · 10-14-09, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by The Bishop

What?? I get -110. Do I have to switch to -108 straights for this as well?

Pros its -110.

**HedgeHog** · 10-14-09, 06:09 PM

Originally posted by The Bishop

What?? I get -110. Do I have to switch to -108 straights for this as well?

Does this by chance include NBA sides or better yet college hoops totals? I just signed up before football season.

When I signed up, just prior to this FB season, I was given -107 lines. I was later offered 14/5 on pars if I switched to -108 lines, which was a fair trade-off for my playing style. As far as basketball goes, this will be my first season doing hoops with Heritage. I assume I'll get 14/5 on pars and 108 straights in that sport as well.

**Peep** · 10-14-09, 06:41 PM

Thanks Major and Hedgehog, that was useful.

I will give them another look.

**The Bishop** · 10-14-09, 07:08 PM

Originally posted by Chuck Sims

Pros its -110.

No, I mean I get -110 on teasers and -107 on straight bets currently. If I switch to -108 on straight bets will I get +100 on 2 team 6 point NFL teasers? Would be more than worth it for me.

**HedgeHog** · 10-14-09, 07:22 PM

Originally posted by The Bishop

No, I mean I get -110 on teasers and -107 on straight bets currently. If I switch to -108 on straight bets will I get +100 on 2 team 6 point NFL teasers? Would be more than worth it for me.

Teaser prices will be the same regardless. BTW, even money is for 2 college or 1 col/1 nfl or same game NFL (side with total). 2 NFL sides would be -110.

**The Bishop** · 10-14-09, 07:45 PM

Originally posted by HedgeHog

Teaser prices will be the same regardless. BTW, even money is for 2 college or 1 col/1 nfl or same game NFL (side with total). 2 NFL sides would be -110.

Ah, OK, thanks.

**purecarnagge** · 10-18-09, 01:35 AM

Still a great book. most underrated book on this site that I'm aware of.

**burnedhands** · 10-18-09, 03:14 AM

Originally posted by Dark Horse

Only have good things to say about them. Low rating is a mystery to me. If I had to pick a top 5 Heritage would be in it (along with Matchbook, Pinny, 5Dimes, and Oly).

5dimes should def. be on the top 5, along with BetPhoenix imo

**rookie** · 10-18-09, 04:55 AM

Originally posted by Dark Horse

Only have good things to say about them. Low rating is a mystery to me. If I had to pick a top 5 Heritage would be in it (along with Matchbook, Pinny, 5Dimes, and Oly).

If a sportsbook is so exclusive, it can not be rated high.

**redore33** · 10-18-09, 05:42 AM

No one & I mean NO ONE can match their bonus offers. Who the hell else replaces ALL your $$ if you tap out?

**Dark Horse** · 10-18-09, 06:41 AM

Originally posted by redore33

No one & I mean NO ONE can match their bonus offers. Who the hell else replaces ALL your $$ if you tap out?

No question. And yet, they're not even mentioned on the SBR sportsbook bonuses page:

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/Sportsbook+Bonuses/default.aspx

I can guarantee you that in the good old days someone from SBR would have responded in this thread. There would have been an explanation, or a response that they were looking into it, from either Bill Dozer or SBR John. The forum is 100x more crowded now, but the silence is deafening.

**HedgeHog** · 10-18-09, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by rookie

If a sportsbook is so exclusive, it can not be rated high.

Then Pinnacle should be downgraded with that thinking. They are excluding the entire US market.

**rookie** · 10-18-09, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by HedgeHog

Then Pinnacle should be downgraded with that thinking. They are excluding the entire US market.

Isn't there a huge difference ? It's one thing to exclude due to laws of a country. Does Heritage even accept clients from outside US/Canada ? I am not saying they should open up. But, they can't be rated very high as long as they continue this policy.

**purecarnagge** · 10-18-09, 10:20 AM

Originally posted by burnedhands

5dimes should def. be on the top 5, along with BetPhoenix imo

5dimes gets alot of knocks on closing peoples accounts for some pretty strange reasons. 5 dimes gets a lot of bad customer service posts... Sure you get paid, but is the hassle worth it?

Originally posted by rookie

If a sportsbook is so exclusive, it can not be rated high.

Why is that there are many highly rated books that don't take US clients anymore.

Originally posted by redore33

No one & I mean NO ONE can match their bonus offers. Who the hell else replaces ALL your $$ if you tap out?

Heritage's bonus program has never been done by other sites that paid on time and didn't either a. fold or b. scam you.

**purecarnagge** · 10-18-09, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by rookie

Isn't there a huge difference ? It's one thing to exclude due to laws of a country. Does Heritage even accept clients from outside US/Canada ? I am not saying they should open up. But, they can't be rated very high as long as they continue this policy.

Yes they do, they accept clients during special periods,where they grow there business. There are a couple of reasons for this.

Higher retention
Less scam players (people who take shots at books)
More reliable/regular clientel

**DogPlayer** · 10-18-09, 12:03 PM

It could also be due to funding... would you rather they let in everybody and when you call them the phone just rings off the hook because all of there cs is busy?

And It probably isn't expensive to get a couple more employees but.. then they need a bigger office and more computers and desks and another manager and more phone lines... anyways you can see where I'm going with this...

Small can be a good thing (or so my girlfriend says

lol)