Fairlay currently stealing my btc, 6 figures

[littlekona]

Yes, I do know how bitcoin works. I'm actually pretty good at analyzing transactions.

If you share the transaction ID, I could check and see if your transaction is in any way related to known scammers or double spends - which could actually answer some of your questions.
This stuff is all relevant. Just post the details and maybe I can help, or find someone else who can help.

interesting the double spends point...that could be a possibility as a 3rd party could be involved if that was case.. more interesting!

[lonnie55]

2.) this would be so stupid to do, do you know how bitcoin works? This is irrelevant too b/c the transaction is not in question they confirmed that and if you doubt it you can bring it up with them.

Can you specify why you think it would be stupid to share the bitcoin transaction ID?

I'm not an expert on Bitcoin but I always thought that it's totally unproblematic to share it if required.

Just in general.

Thanks

[Optional]

The genuineness of the bitcoin transaction is not in question.

No reason to share the tx details.

[DroopyDog]

I think LittleKona should offer to buy your balance. 95 cents on the dollar. Free 5% for Kona, Fairlay is golden in his eyes

[Ant23]

Droppydog.....#shill would be a better description for littlekona

[littlekona]

Droppydog.....#shill would be a better description for littlekona

nice... such the useful contributor to the forum you are

[Ant23]

Kona.....down here in the south we have a saying "that if it walks like a duck.....talks like a duck" then it's not aflac homie......it's a damn duck. You have shot down every post from degen1 about Fairlay ripping him off in your attempt to make Fairlay look like they did nothing wrong. #FACTS.....#TRUTHHURTS

[littlekona]

Kona.....down here in the south we have a saying "that if it walks like a duck.....talks like a duck" then it's not aflac homie......it's a damn duck. You have shot down every post from degen1 about Fairlay ripping him off in your attempt to make Fairlay look like they did nothing wrong. #FACTS.....#TRUTHHURTS

Lol ma’Am no one knows for sure what #facts are all we know is this is not just some random act and something serious triggered........yawn.....

[raiders72001]

Lol ma’Am no one knows for sure what #facts are all we know is this is not just some random act and something serious triggered........yawn.....

The only thing we know for sure is what has been posted by Optional. The player sent money to Fairlay. Fairlay has the money and has refused to tell the player why his money is frozen. You are too well versed in bitcoin to believe that this has anything to do with double spends.

Fairlay kept betg's money so we know that Fairlay is capable of confiscating funds for unproven allegations. Even if the allegations were true, and most likely were true, it's not Fairlay's money to keep. Honest books return the money and ban the player. This should have happened with degen.

[littlekona]

The only thing we know for sure is what has been posted by Optional. The player sent money to Fairlay. Fairlay has the money and has refused to tell the player why his money is frozen. You are too well versed in bitcoin to believe that this has anything to do with double spends.

Fairlay kept betg's money so we know that Fairlay is capable of confiscating funds for unproven allegations. Even if the allegations were true, and most likely were true, it's not Fairlay's money to keep. Honest books return the money and ban the player. This should have happened with degen.

Will be interesting once this gets settled like I said best thing for both OP and Fairlay is SBR complaint file and SBR getting involved in resolving....remember betg never files a complaint at least degen did

[TwitchySeal]

The genuineness of the bitcoin transaction is not in question.

No reason to share the tx details.

Sharing the tx ID could help him in pressuring Fairlay to release the funds.

[degen1]

Free the people

[degen1]

Twitchy this you bro?? Don’t @ me ever again you bum

https://www.betcoin.ag/twitchyseal-back-it-again-offering-me-help-trash-betcoin-proof-below

[littlekona]

Twitchy this you bro?? Don’t @ me ever again you bum

https://www.betcoin.ag/twitchyseal-b...in-proof-below

the more you post the more people realize you are an immature younger guy who most likely obtained the amount of btc in question in some sort of illegal manor as not many guys with 5-6 figure bankroll talk like you....Just my guess

[moojoo]

the more you post the more people realize you are an immature younger guy who most likely obtained the amount of btc in question in some sort of illegal manor as not many guys with 5-6 figure bankroll talk like you....Just my guess

STFU idiot,dont be penetrating jealous. Go bet 5 a pop and spare us from your shilling.

[raiders72001]

the more you post the more people realize you are an immature younger guy who most likely obtained the amount of btc in question in some sort of illegal manor as not many guys with 5-6 figure bankroll talk like you....Just my guess

It seems that the only time that I vehemently disagree with you is when it comes to Fairlay. There's no reason to pick on degen1. He's the victim and too many people are firing away with an unfounded character assassination. The facts say that Fairlay is wrong. There's no reason for Fairlay to hold his money hostage.

[degen1]

the more you post the more people realize you are an immature younger guy who most likely obtained the amount of btc in question in some sort of illegal manor as not many guys with 5-6 figure bankroll talk like you....Just my guess

Brother, I’ve displayed way more maturity than most including you. Also at least I have proper grammar and can f***ing spell. Manor is a type of house you dumb p.o.s

[degen1]

There are only 2-3 people on this thread that have been combative and for all I know they could all be the same person, and they all are just trolls or shills. At end of day, I just want my money back, I’ve done enough here to service enough warning to anyone that needs it. You cannot dispute my facts unless you get it from Fairlay, which I welcome you to do. But even SBR has not been able to get great answers from them on my behalf.

[Craig22]

There are only 2-3 people on this thread that have been combative and for all I know they could all be the same person, and they all are just trolls or shills. At end of day, I just want my money back, I’ve done enough here to service enough warning to anyone that needs it. You cannot dispute my facts unless you get it from Fairlay, which I welcome you to do. But even SBR has not been able to get great answers from them on my behalf.

Have you played with them for a while? Curious if you're up with them/ how much.

[kj8210]

Fairlay is garbage. Nitrogen or nothing when it comes to bitcoin

[degen1]

Have you played with them for a while? Curious if you're up with them/ how much.

Been with them for quite a bit now, they're an exchange so I don't face them so I'm not up on them or down on them - they just get paid commission for my volume. That's part of reason why I originally trusted them b/c they dont have incentives against me, alas here we are.

[raiders72001]

Fairlay is garbage. Nitrogen or nothing when it comes to bitcoin

Agree that Nitrogen is a top book. Jump in their free NFL Survivor pool. It pays .2 BTC (over $2k now and who knows what it will be worth in a few months).

There may be an overlay in the 1 BTC pool. There's only one entrant now and the payout's a guaranteed 4 BTC.

[raiders72001]

Been with them for quite a bit now, they're an exchange so I don't face them so I'm not up on them or down on them - they just get paid commission for my volume. That's part of reason why I originally trusted them b/c they dont have incentives against me, alas here we are.

They seed the market. I'm not sure of the exact relationship or how much Pinnacle is involved since a bet at Fairlay moves the line at Pinnacle. There are a couple of market makers. In essence, they are a book and not an exchange.

[littlekona]

Agree that Nitrogen is a top book. Jump in their free NFL Survivor pool. It pays .2 BTC (over $2k now and who knows what it will be worth in a few months).

There may be an overlay in the 1 BTC pool. There's only one entrant now and the payout's a guaranteed 4 BTC.

I hope they bring back the parlay promo freeplay match that's my fav promo...I remember years ago when btc was a rocketship the prize in survivor pool was huge due to that.... great value bet esp if btc trends up

[raiders72001]

I hope they bring back the parlay promo freeplay match that's my fav promo...I remember years ago when btc was a rocketship the prize in survivor pool was huge due to that.... great value bet esp if btc trends up

Same with my futures. Payout was much greater than when I placed the bet.

[degen1]

They seed the market. I'm not sure of the exact relationship or how much Pinnacle is involved since a bet at Fairlay moves the line at Pinnacle. There are a couple of market makers. In essence, they are a book and not an exchange.

Sure, maybe in practicality, but their incentives are not affected b/c even if a book is on the other side then they're just putting orders through and clearing my orders. They don't carry exposure is my point, and so if I were to destroy it they themselves would not be carrying the other side per se. At least in theory..

[raiders72001]

Sure, maybe in practicality, but their incentives are not affected b/c even if a book is on the other side then they're just putting orders through and clearing my orders. They don't carry exposure is my point, and so if I were to destroy it they themselves would not be carrying the other side per se. At least in theory..

I understand your point but we don't know the exact relationship or how much Fairlay is involved. We can't trust what Fairlay tells us.

If you are winning, someone doesn't want your action. If you were down big, they would want your action and you wouldn't be in the situation that you are in right now.

[degen1]

I understand your point but we don't know the exact relationship or how much Fairlay is involved. If you are winning, someone doesn't want your action.

If you were down big, they would want your action and you wouldn't be in the situation that you are in right now.

In theory all orders are supposed to be anonymous so that a book would not be able to discern player A from player B though, at least that's what support told me when I shared that concern awhile ago.

Either way, Fairlay for sure shouldn't be holding onto coin especially the deposit. They've chosen to play a role that seemingly no one asked them to, and it's ambiguous to me why.

[Optional]

There are only 2-3 people on this thread that have been combative and for all I know they could all be the same person, and they all are just trolls or shills. At end of day, I just want my money back, I’ve done enough here to service enough warning to anyone that needs it. You cannot dispute my facts unless you get it from Fairlay, which I welcome you to do. But even SBR has not been able to get great answers from them on my behalf.

Littlekona is just super loyal once he likes a book. I agree he goes a bit far, but he has enough redeeming qualities that regulars let it go ;-)



Everyone does not need to speculate this much. It's not that complicated.

Fairlay believe they have to act this way. They are not trying to pull a fast one.

Hopefully this will come to a resolution soon.

[raiders72001]

The Fairlay troll box is talking about the case and some problems.

● Legend: Hello my withdraw is delayed since 1 hour


● Legend: Pls fix thx


● Kickmeister: Anyone able to put bets on?


● Legend: No site is bugged Sadly


● Kickmeister: Poop


● Kickmeister: How long does it last normally?


● Legend: Idk till the developers fix it tomorrow


● Kickmeister: Damn, I would have won my corners pick too


● Kickmeister: Pretty disappointing, hope this doesn’t happen often


Anonymous108: I think markets are back. Please check again.


● Bestbet: site is down?


● Bestbet: no bets get taken just cancelled?


● Kickmeister: I think still broken


● Kickmeister: Getting no orders matched


● Pricebets-Fair: Got matched on horses. Maybe some issue with Market Maker.


● Kickmeister: Thanks


● Zydjohn2019: The only live sports markets is baseball, which still has 2 live market pages. All other live sports market pages have on live markets available.


● Zydjohn2019: It is difficult to say that the whole site is down, but nearly. The other active parts are news, exchanges. But live sports are almost (except baseball) down.


● Linan2332: it is working for esport, i am able to place order and get matched


● Kickmeister: Does Dota really have so much more betting than league?


● Linan2332: I believe so


● Linan2332: just way more tournament (4 major + ESL + TI)


● Linan2332: Riot should really consider letting 3rd party company host tournament as well


● Linan2332: but the king for esport is probably CSGO , literally have match to bet on almost every day and good tournament every month


● Linan2332: CSGO->Dota2->LoL->Overwatch+starcraft+hearthstone in terms of available betting matches


● SyGambler: any idea when dota2 outrights will be graded ?


● Linan2332: Please grade hearthstone https://fairlay.com/archive/gallon-v...f-201fc0ee5b66


● Reelman: hi support


Ognjen-Support: Hi, Reelman. We've answered you via the Support chat window.


● Avantu: again there is lack of cs go starladder match


● Avantu: biggest tournament and this happens

Anonymous12:What is happening with this dudes moneyhttps://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/3557348-fairlay-currently-stealing-my-btc-6-figures-p20.html#post28849873Anonymous12:https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...l#post28849873


Ognjen-Support: @200 If you have any specific issues please let us know via the Support chat window and we'll do our best to solve it.


Anonymous170: what is that thread?


Anonymous84:why so hush hus

[Ghenghis Kahn]

Fairlay is garbage. Nitrogen or nothing when it comes to bitcoin

Even though, Nitrogen isn't perfect, I doubt they would do some shady ass shit like what Fairlay is doing to OP's BTC. This whole bullshit defeats the purpose of using a crypto book... And fukk all those defending Fairlay, bunch of fukking clowns.

[littlekona]

Even though, Nitrogen isn't perfect, I doubt they would do some shady ass shit like what Fairlay is doing to OP's BTC. This whole bullshit defeats the purpose of using a crypto book... And fukk all those defending Fairlay, bunch of fukking clowns.

I use nitrogen daily too and they have confiscated funds from players due to fraud and cheating...I know because i have filed complaints for this due to poker collusion and after investigation they froze accounts of colluding individuals and sent funds to my account to compensate for lost hands....If cheating, hacking accounts or fraud is involved i want the book btc or fiat to protect me.....Just cause its btc exclusive with minimal kyc doesn't mean its anything goes....Fairlay could be way off to freeze degan funds or they could be correct in helping the rightful party getting funds back....

[raiders72001]

I use nitrogen daily too and they have confiscated funds from players due to fraud and cheating...I know because i have filed complaints for this due to poker collusion and after investigation they froze accounts of colluding individuals and sent funds to my account to compensate for lost hands....If cheating, hacking accounts or fraud is involved i want the book btc or fiat to protect me.....Just cause its btc exclusive with minimal kyc doesn't mean its anything goes....Fairlay could be way off to freeze degan funds or they could be correct in helping the rightful party getting funds back....

The difference is Nitrogen paid you and didn't call the cops. Fairlay keeps your money, asks for ID and then calls the cops or threatens to call the cops.

[TwitchySeal]

Twitchy this you bro?? Don’t @ me ever again you bum

https://www.betcoin.ag/twitchyseal-b...in-proof-below

Sort of.

Those are 100% faked skype logs, just read the comments.

Betcoin was not very happy with me as I exposed how shady they are: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?to...32#msg13507632, they actually paid that played to post them (and then posted the fake logs themselves in attempt to discredit me - kinda like what you just did). I believe this happened in the midst of Betcoin refusing to pay a 500 btc progressive jackpot, due to rules they changed after the jackpot was hit.

Don't take what I say so personal. I don't know you and I'm just being honest. Post the relevant details I've asked for and I will be 100% on your side, assuming the evidence backs up your story.

[jerrahmaya]

hey degen1!
i know you from nitro days, was browsing the forums and saw this post.
very sad to see a big bettor has to deal with problems on most books these days, hope they sort it for you soon.

no book welcomes big players these times it seems