Best countries to live in for sports betting

[Jogador]

I’m from Ireland and there is 100+ bookmaker shops in Dublin plus I can register on 95% of sites, no taxes on betting etc

Do you know whether betting on offshore bookies/Asian Brokers is also allowed in Ireland? Thanks.

I am basically repeating the same question on Asian Brokers etc, and sorry for that. But at least for my kind of betting, soft eurobookies and their limiting is not viable. Cheers.

[NBAtanker]

I’m from Ireland and there is 100+ bookmaker shops in Dublin plus I can register on 95% of sites, no taxes on betting etc

[Optional]

Do you happen to know whether winnings from Asian Brokers are also ok (legally untaxed) in Bulgaria?

I do not, sorry.

[enzo]

Morocco 0 tax on gambling ,cheap cost of living ,sunny beaches , nice food.... and also there is a local bookie that Will not limit you at all only one bad thing they offer lower odds compared to others

[Jogador]

Hei, I've been researching more about countries around Europe and I found that Bulgaria accepts pinnacle players and winnings are not taxed. So far it's the country that looks closer to what I'm looking for and also, it is a really cheap country.

Has anyone here lived or lives in Bulgaria?

Sorry for posting basically the same question twice. Do you happen to know whether winnings from Asian Brokers are also ok (legally untaxed) in Bulgaria? I would be very much interested in Bulgaria as a choice for the same thing (living as a pro bettor).

[Jogador]

I have a friend in Sofia I talk to quite a bit.

He would like to leave. But I think a lot of people in poorer countries imagine life will change in another country.

It sounds like quite a "strange" place to live. The music and movies he likes, the way he talks about the social life there.

I'd love to visit from what he says, but think you would have to have the option to leave to like it longer term from the way it sounds to me.

Do you happen to know whether winnings from Asian Brokers are also ok (legally untaxed) in Bulgaria?

[eath1]

Living in Austria personally, I think its pretty good. Offline bookies are mostly crap except Admiral (which is getting worse too though) but online you can use most of the bookies (except Paddypower, Tempobet and some other UK books). No taxes (so far). Personally I'd like to try to live in Malta and the UK for a while...UK with its offline stores could be a paradise (but don't know the limits) and Malta is probably nice for the weather etc. and for online betting.

Which betting shops are in Austria? I'm still considering different countries so Austria might be a good option.

[pythonic]

I think UK and Malta are the savest options. Austria doesn't have betfair as far as I know. Generally with unregulated countries you have the problem that regulations could change at any moment. I think something like that happened in Poland a while ago.

[Nisi92]

Living in Austria personally, I think its pretty good. Offline bookies are mostly crap except Admiral (which is getting worse too though) but online you can use most of the bookies (except Paddypower, Tempobet and some other UK books). No taxes (so far). Personally I'd like to try to live in Malta and the UK for a while...UK with its offline stores could be a paradise (but don't know the limits) and Malta is probably nice for the weather etc. and for online betting.

[BigJay]

Syria

[Alfa1234]

To be fair Bulgaria is ok country to live. He might want go away because it difficult,small wages... But if you come as fpreigner and you will live good life financially i think you would like Bulgaria. Beautiful girls,cheap food,beer... Many books operate from there even Paysafe have their wing there...
They have nice seaside,nice mountines, among cheapest in Europe.
About 5 h drive from Sofia,you can go to Greece,Serbia,Romania...

10% flat rate Corporate and personal taxes. Great country to start or have an (offshore) company as well.

[bettingman6]

Anyway, I’m not sure how anybody could dispute that the US is the worst country in the world to make a living betting on sports. We don’t have access to either Pinnacle or the Greek.

If you spread money around several different small local sportsbooks in the UK, you shouldn’t get banned from books. It’ll be hard for books to figure out you’re a long term winner, unless they communicate with each other about you. Or you become somebody like Billy Walters whose betting skills are world famous.

[moojoo]

I have a friend in Sofia I talk to quite a bit.

He would like to leave. But I think a lot of people in poorer countries imagine life will change in another country.

It sounds like quite a "strange" place to live. The music and movies he likes, the way he talks about the social life there.

I'd love to visit from what he says, but think you would have to have the option to leave to like it longer term from the way it sounds to me.

To be fair Bulgaria is ok country to live. He might want go away because it difficult,small wages... But if you come as fpreigner and you will live good life financially i think you would like Bulgaria. Beautiful girls,cheap food,beer... Many books operate from there even Paysafe have their wing there...
They have nice seaside,nice mountines, among cheapest in Europe.
About 5 h drive from Sofia,you can go to Greece,Serbia,Romania...

[eath1]

Britain has no taxes on gambling period. Canada taxes professional gamblers.

And Britain has sportsbooks all over the place. There are very few sportsbooks in Canada and you have to do all of your betting in Canada online.

Although Pinnacle doesn’t operate in the UK for some reason.

Yeah, if I could bet in pinnacle from the UK I wouldn't even think about moving to another country, but most of my earnings come from Pinnacle so I don't really have a choice...

[bettingman6]

if you are a big winner live in a first world country. canada probably best with tax laws, safety etc.
i would never live in country like mexico/costa rica or any developing/third world countries if i am betting big and making a living with sports betting.

Britain has no taxes on gambling period. Canada taxes professional gamblers.

And Britain has sportsbooks all over the place. There are very few sportsbooks in Canada and you have to do all of your betting in Canada online.

Although Pinnacle doesn’t operate in the UK for some reason.

[Optional]

Hei, I've been researching more about countries around Europe and I found that Bulgaria accepts pinnacle players and winnings are not taxed. So far it's the country that looks closer to what I'm looking for and also, it is a really cheap country.

Has anyone here lived or lives in Bulgaria?

I have a friend in Sofia I talk to quite a bit.

He would like to leave. But I think a lot of people in poorer countries imagine life will change in another country.

It sounds like quite a "strange" place to live. The music and movies he likes, the way he talks about the social life there.

I'd love to visit from what he says, but think you would have to have the option to leave to like it longer term from the way it sounds to me.

[eath1]

Hei, I've been researching more about countries around Europe and I found that Bulgaria accepts pinnacle players and winnings are not taxed. So far it's the country that looks closer to what I'm looking for and also, it is a really cheap country.

Has anyone here lived or lives in Bulgaria?

[Brooklyn Dick]

You can rebet at Pinnacle,so your theory dont stand.

You rebet at Pinnacle laying 15-20 cents higher ML or laying an extra point on a game. Not me my friend.

[Optional]

Pinnacle has the "Maximum Bet" written at the top, yet it is not as it seems. Instead, there are little red circles beside each betting option. If you hover over the red circles, they always seem to show a smaller limit. Maybe it is as you say, that the red circle limits will increase closer to game time. I haven't paid enough attention to know.

I guess that is one reason why, so many bettors wait until just prior to game time to place their bets.

Circled games = reduced limits and no parlaying.

[moojoo]

You can rebet at Pinnacle,so your theory dont stand.

[AimHigher]

What I am saying is that the 4K limit only comes up a few hours before tip off. For example at 11AM EST time they are taking 1K, then it goes up in increments. By the time the 4K limit is reached the lines are solid. And that is for all matches except the early games which would be a bit higher. You can bet more at Bookmaker than Pinnacle.

And their totals on CB are all listed at 115-1. 30 Cent line. They just moved the limit on that one from 500 to 1,000. And again, not until late can you bet more than 500.

Pinnacle has the "Maximum Bet" written at the top, yet it is not as it seems. Instead, there are little red circles beside each betting option. If you hover over the red circles, they always seem to show a smaller limit. Maybe it is as you say, that the red circle limits will increase closer to game time. I haven't paid enough attention to know.

I guess that is one reason why, so many bettors wait until just prior to game time to place their bets.

[Brooklyn Dick]

I understood you correctly, that Pinny accepts the first bet on a spread of 4k, and for a repeat bet it shows a maximum not of 4k, but only 1k for all matches?
Very interesting, and why for all matches, and not just for the match where was the bet?
In other sports have seen something like that?

What I am saying is that the 4K limit only comes up a few hours before tip off. For example at 11AM EST time they are taking 1K, then it goes up in increments. By the time the 4K limit is reached the lines are solid. And that is for all matches except the early games which would be a bit higher. You can bet more at Bookmaker than Pinnacle.

And their totals on CB are all listed at 115-1. 30 Cent line. They just moved the limit on that one from 500 to 1,000. And again, not until late can you bet more than 500.

[HeeeHAWWWW]

I was doing research to see if Pinny was legal in the Isle of Man. I couldn't find an answer. Do you know for certain that it is? If so, the Isle of Man would be an excellent option.

It's on Pinny's registration page, as are the channel islands.

[eath1]

I'm pretty sure you can bet at an exchange, just like how you would bet at Pinnacle. No?

I was doing research to see if Pinny was legal in the Isle of Man. I couldn't find an answer. Do you know for certain that it is? If so, the Isle of Man would be an excellent option.

I think it is, but not sure. The problem about researching countries for sports betting is that there is not that much info online.

From what I've gathered, in Europe, Austria is pretty good for sports betting (no taxes and pinny is legal), and I'm currently looking for information about Malta.

[USSR80]

Are you aware of some of the limits now on Pinnacle. College baskets for example. Spread max 4K, but as I post this the limit on all games is circled at 1 k. Totals max at a nickel. Now you can bet 375. And totals are always a 30 cent spread. Spread is a 16 cent spread. If you want to move to another country just for that you need to reconsider.

I understood you correctly, that Pinny accepts the first bet on a spread of 4k, and for a repeat bet it shows a maximum not of 4k, but only 1k for all matches?
Very interesting, and why for all matches, and not just for the match where was the bet?
In other sports have seen something like that?

[AimHigher]

Yeah, if trading is your thing. Betfair is circling the plughole since it merged with PaddyPower though.

I'd go Guernsey or Isle of Man if it was purely betting reasons. Access to everything inc native pinny, close to UK laws.

I'm pretty sure you can bet at an exchange, just like how you would bet at Pinnacle. No?

I was doing research to see if Pinny was legal in the Isle of Man. I couldn't find an answer. Do you know for certain that it is? If so, the Isle of Man would be an excellent option.

[lonnie55]

I would put Costa Rica and parts of Mexico on the top of my list if I was a big winner sportsbetter.

Yeah, of course. Just make sure that your neighbors don't find out what you're doing for a living.

[Maw011]

if you are a big winner live in a first world country. canada probably best with tax laws, safety etc.
i would never live in country like mexico/costa rica or any developing/third world countries if i am betting big and making a living with sports betting.

I would put Costa Rica and parts of Mexico on the top of my list if I was a big winner sportsbetter.

[moojoo]

No Pinnacle though. But probably enough other options that you could live without it.



But they have access to all of the betting exchanges, no? There are many, many valid stories of people who make $100,000+ a year on Betfair.

Making 100k per year in Uk where your monthly living vosts would be st least 5k....

[Snowball]

Yeah, if trading is your thing. Betfair is circling the plughole since it merged with PaddyPower though.

I'd go Guernsey or Isle of Man if it was purely betting reasons. Access to everything inc native pinny, close to UK laws.

What about Brexit tho

[HeeeHAWWWW]

But they have access to all of the betting exchanges, no? There are many, many valid stories of people who make $100,000+ a year on Betfair.

Yeah, if trading is your thing. Betfair is circling the plughole since it merged with PaddyPower though.

I'd go Guernsey or Isle of Man if it was purely betting reasons. Access to everything inc native pinny, close to UK laws.

[AimHigher]

The United Kingdom is the best without question, got a Bookie on every street corner. It's pretty much a candy shop for any Sports Bettor.

No Pinnacle though. But probably enough other options that you could live without it.

All shit books that limit you to peanuts though :-)

But they have access to all of the betting exchanges, no? There are many, many valid stories of people who make $100,000+ a year on Betfair.

[AimHigher]

What about Malta ? There are also registered (licensed in Malta) many sportsbetting companies. But I do not know how it is with any tax for professional gamblers...

Nobody suggested Malta? the obvious choice.

All of my research suggests that Malta is best. It's a 1st world country, beautiful weather, and probably every online gambling site in the world is legal.

Note: I didn't look much into the 'tax' issue, so I can't answer.

[lonnie55]

I don't know. Every lawyer and law expert says it's a grey area. You can go to police and say "I just made a bet at an online book" and they won't care. Out TV commercials are full of illegal betting commercials but no one cares (there is a law which says that promoting sportsbooks is illegal, too). Our football clubs are sponsored by illegal sportsbooks but no one cares. Even our football federation, DFB, is partnered with an illegal sportsbook but, guess what, no one cares. And there is another reason why no one cares: From 2021 online gambling will be fully regulated and legal. But at the moment there is a law which is not enforced so online betting is tolerated BUT theoratically you still could get sentenced for participation in illegal sports betting. It's just very unlikely.

Otherwise you could claim also that dealing drugs is a grey area, cos maybe authorities in some places do not enforce the law. I cant remember when was someone arrested for drug dealing in my area in last 20 years. Doesnt mean here is no drugs, also doesnt mean it is a grey area.

So you want to tell me there is a place on earth where you can go to police and say "I'm a drug dealer and my pockets are full of shit" but no one cares? In which country is drug dealing tolerated?

[Limited]

there is a law that says online betting is prohibited

To me this is clear, not grey. Just because your authorities don't enforce the law, doesn't mean that it is a "grey area". The grey are IMO would be if there is no law or unclear regulation.

Otherwise you could claim also that dealing drugs is a grey area, cos maybe authorities in some places do not enforce the law. I cant remember when was someone arrested for drug dealing in my area in last 20 years. Doesnt mean here is no drugs, also doesnt mean it is a grey area.

And unlike Germany where you say that u have a law that makes gambling illegal, I haven't seen something similar for Malta. But OP should research more to be sure.