Sports interaction. Should I pay them?

**relaaxx** · 04-19-18, 07:38 PM

how honest are you. right thing to do is pay them $500 from the 1st deposit, obviously. but you can move on saving yourself $500. most people I think would not give them the $500. most people would say they would give them the $500 they owe if it was them. who are you? you will find out by your decision.

**TheToffer** · 04-19-18, 07:54 PM

I don't beleive so much in karma, but I do believe in the gambling gods. Not paying is dis-honoring them and could anger them. Don't anger the gambling gods...

**juvunits** · 04-19-18, 08:28 PM

Originally posted by relaaxx

how honest are you. right thing to do is pay them $500 from the 1st deposit, obviously. but you can move on saving yourself $500. most people I think would not give them the $500. most people would say they would give them the $500 they owe if it was them. who are you? you will find out by your decision.

What kind of bullshit business are they running. They wait 7 days to check if I wrote in the right info. Then they don't even tell me that it didn't go through. I had to contact them. Why should I pay. I feel bad don't get me wrong but that's a Mickey mouse way of doing things. Technically you guys can go get a free 500 dollars if you want

**juvunits** · 04-19-18, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by TheToffer

I don't beleive so much in karma, but I do believe in the gambling gods. Not paying is dis-honoring them and could anger them. Don't anger the gambling gods...

Hahaha there are no gambling gods

**TeddyB** · 04-19-18, 08:48 PM

Originally posted by juvunits

Hahaha there are no gambling gods

Yeah, but there is a true God who will punish you if you do not pay!

**juvunits** · 04-19-18, 08:59 PM

I've done far worse things than not pay a sports book 500 bucks

**TheToffer** · 04-19-18, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by TeddyB

Yeah, but there is a true God who will punish you if you do not pay!

**RonPaul2008** · 04-19-18, 10:48 PM

It's possible that if you don't play the $500 you will be put on a list and banned from other sportsbooks too.

**deltgen** · 04-19-18, 10:51 PM

If you decide to say screw it, when you make a withdrawal and a book (whichever book it may be) gives you problems, are you going to report it at SBR?

**sourtwist** · 04-19-18, 10:53 PM

Originally posted by RonPaul2008

It's possible that if you don't play the $500 you will be put on a list and banned from other sportsbooks too.

Not likely

**juvunits** · 04-19-18, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by deltgen

If you decide to say screw it, when you make a withdrawal and a book (whichever book it may be) gives you problems, are you going to report it at SBR?

Yah obviously I'm going to report it. I'm sorry but it's not my job to make sure my banking info was correct. They are the idiots for giving me money without checking my credentials.

**juvunits** · 04-19-18, 11:21 PM

Originally posted by sourtwist

Not likely

I highly doubt that as well

**PharaohUB** · 04-19-18, 11:52 PM

Would they have paid if you won? Probably not. Tricky situation. I would pay but I can afford it. Younger me was in similar situation and didn’t pay. Nobody broke my legs and that company (dsi) isn’t exactly regarded highly these days. Still don’t feel right about it but this was a long time ago now. I would pay if you can afford it. If not move on and you’ll be fine. They weren’t paying you if you won anyway if that deposit doesn’t clear. You were basically betting air the whole time. I could see how you can rationalize not paying and wouldn’t judge.

**dlowilly** · 04-20-18, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by PharaohUB

Would they have paid if you won? Probably not.

Agreed. You are getting free rolled here if you pay since they had no risk and could only win if you pay. Add to that I have heard horrendous stories about their shenanigans and customer service, and yes as someone said earlier, they do enjoy blacklisting players for bs but that would just affect using CCs I would think. If you're fronting cash other books shouldn't care what those SIA clowns do.

**KVB** · 04-20-18, 12:32 AM

Wow, it does sound like the OP got free rolled outright.

You've always been on the hook for $500, they were never on any hook for anything and they knew it.

Terrible book anyway. I can't see any need for that out. If it were me, I would pay the $500 I owe but most certainly never play there again.

There was a time when I would have sent the least amount possible, even $1 at time and take forever to pay them. Really drag it out forever. I would especially do this if I can make them incur the fees. Maybe trick them with their own bonus or something. Who cares if they keep track, I'd keep track, get to $500 for my own purpose, then just disappear.

The whole time I would keep track slowly but daily on SBR so as to keep bumping the thread where we caught them free rolling. Maybe even start a new thread each day.

I certainly would never use the book again no matter what on principal alone.

**juvunits** · 04-20-18, 12:39 AM

Originally posted by dlowilly

Agreed. You are getting free rolled here if you pay since they had no risk and could only win if you pay. Add to that I have heard horrendous stories about their shenanigans and customer service, and yes as someone said earlier, they do enjoy blacklisting players for bs but that would just affect using CCs I would think. If you're fronting cash other books shouldn't care what those SIA clowns do.

What do you mean by CCs

**juvunits** · 04-20-18, 12:40 AM

Originally posted by KVB

Wow, it does sound like the OP got free rolled outright.

You've always been on the hook for $500, they were never on any hook for anything and they knew it.

Terrible book anyway. I can't see any need for that out. If it were me, I would pay the $500 I owe but most certainly never play there again.

There was a time when I would have sent the least amount possible, even $1 at time and take forever to pay them. Really drag it out forever. I would especially do this if I can make them incur the fees. Maybe trick them with their own bonus or something. Who cares if they keep track, I'd keep track, get to $500 for my own purpose, then just disappear.

The whole time I would keep track slowly but daily on SBR so as to keep bumping the thread where we caught them free rolling. Maybe even start a new thread each day.

I certainly would never use the book again no matter what on principal alone.

What do you guys mean when you say the OP got free rolled

**KVB** · 04-20-18, 12:40 AM

Originally posted by juvunits

What do you mean by CCs

**KVB** · 04-20-18, 12:41 AM

Originally posted by juvunits

What do you guys mean when you say the OP got free rolled

The book was never at risk. They took a free shot with nothing to lose.

If the player loses, he owes still. If the player wins, the book can say they never got the deposit and negate the wagers.

They can't lose. They rolled you for free...lol.

**juvunits** · 04-20-18, 12:44 AM

Originally posted by KVB

The book was never at risk. They took a free shot with nothing to lose.

If the player loses, he owes still. If the player wins, the book can say they never got the deposit and negate the wagers.

They can't lose. They rolled you for free...lol.

I understand

**juvunits** · 04-20-18, 12:54 AM

I heard it was a decent book but I guess not

**ronald** · 04-20-18, 12:59 AM

Originally posted by juvunits

I've done far worse things than not pay a sports book 500 bucks

Brock? Is that you?

**KVB** · 04-20-18, 01:07 AM

Originally posted by juvunits

I heard it was a decent book but I guess not

Maybe there's a legit mix up, but it really does sound like a classic free roll. They likely knew they had bad bank info well before the 7 days. It's possible, in this case, I'm missing something, but we've definitely seen the behavior of exploiting known errors for a free roll.

If you had won, this thread would be about whether or not they should honor the wagers and the winnings. That direction would not end well for the player.

**juvunits** · 04-20-18, 01:44 AM

The more you guys say how I got free rolled, the more I don't want to pay. Someone mentioned it before, I was basically betting air.

**Optional** · 04-20-18, 05:33 AM

Originally posted by KVB

The book was never at risk. They took a free shot with nothing to lose.

If the player loses, he owes still. If the player wins, the book can say they never got the deposit and negate the wagers.

They can't lose. They rolled you for free...lol.

You're trying to justify him not paying by making stuff up.

They would not have been intentionally free rolling anyone that way. It wasn't them who gave the wrong info. It simply would have taken time for the processor to alert them and been noted on the account.

Where is the advanatge to a book to secretly stay quiet? Either way it turns into a problem, for no real benefit to them. They don't get their 500 bucks and also lose a customer??

And they may very well have not paid out winnings. Again they didn't put the wrong info and no book will sit there and leave the door open for players to do this on purpose and free roll them either.

Pay and continue to play there, or don't. It's all on the OP to make that choice. Which he obviously had made already.

But trying to twist it to act like the book is being the ass here is not reasonable.

**Optional** · 04-20-18, 05:41 AM

If they wanted to screw with the OP, they never would have mentioned the debt and just let him deposit again before telling him.

**moojoo** · 04-20-18, 07:23 AM

If we debate who try to free roll ,its Op for sure. He did(maybe on purpose) write wrong info while depositing. If he won and they decline payout,he would come here and complain. Sbr would help him to get money,im sure.

**Alfa1234** · 04-20-18, 08:16 AM

Do the right thing if you are able to pay. If only for your own conscience.

**relaaxx** · 04-20-18, 09:15 AM

Originally posted by juvunits

What kind of bullshit business are they running. They wait 7 days to check if I wrote in the right info. Then they don't even tell me that it didn't go through. I had to contact them. Why should I pay. I feel bad don't get me wrong but that's a Mickey mouse way of doing things. Technically you guys can go get a free 500 dollars if you want

seems like decision made

**juvunits** · 04-20-18, 09:24 AM

Originally posted by moojoo

If we debate who try to free roll ,its Op for sure. He did(maybe on purpose) write wrong info while depositing. If he won and they decline payout,he would come here and complain. Sbr would help him to get money,im sure.

I obviously didn't do it on purpose. I had no idea you could give false information and still be credited with money to play with. It's common sense that you would think they would make sure about the bank Info right away.

**lonnie55** · 04-20-18, 09:42 AM

My very first thought was 'be fair and pay them' because that's what I would do.

But TBH the more I think about it the more doubts I get. Would I really pay them if I were in the exact same situation like OP, given that the book closed my account and most likely would not pay me if I won?

Sports betting is about looking for an advantage. That's part of the game. And it's a shady unregulated business, where you get screwed by bookies the longer you are involved, just a matter of time. So TBH I don't know if I really paid. Maybe if it was a top-notch book. But if it was a top-notch book they would not close your account at once but try to clarify the situation.

Guys, ask yourself twice: Would you really pay if you were in the same situation like OP?

**moojoo** · 04-20-18, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by lonnie55

My very first thought was 'be fair and pay them' because that's what I would do.

But TBH the more I think about it the more doubts I get. Would I really pay them if I were in the exact same situation like OP, given that the book closed my account and most likely would not pay me if I won?

Sports betting is about looking for an advantage. That's part of the game. And it's a shady unregulated business, where you get screwed by bookies the longer you are involved, just a matter of time. So TBH I don't know if I really paid. Maybe if it was a top-notch book. But if it was a top-notch book they would not close your account at once but try to clarify the situation.

Guys, ask yourself twice: Would you really pay if you were in the same situation like OP?

Good point. Maybe i wouldnt pay,but all depend on numerous factors. What is my financial status at the moment,did this book screw me anyhow in past,are they connected(sharing informstions...)with some of my favorite shops...

P.s 99% i would pay.If i somehow dont have enough money to cover deposit,i would make plan with them to repay.

**Underdog5229** · 04-20-18, 01:11 PM

Of course the right thing to do would be to pay them, but I agree they would not pay you had you won with the $500. now with that said, it's up to you what you do here, but we all know what the right thing to do is. If it were me and I liked the book, I would pay so I could continue to play there.

**juvunits** · 04-20-18, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by Underdog5229

Of course the right thing to do would be to pay them, but I agree they would not pay you had you won with the $500. now with that said, it's up to you what you do here, but we all know what the right thing to do is. If it were me and I liked the book, I would pay so I could continue to play there.

See the thing is, after listening to you guys tell me it's not a good book and that they most likely won't pay me, I don't really want to pay. I understand it's the right thing to do though.