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  • PhoKing
    SBR High Roller
    • 07-04-16
    • 247

    #351
    Originally posted by theviking
    So do you know how big the attack is? and how many computers / ip addresses the attack are coming from ? and what if it continues for weeks...

    Not sure who is the joke in your story
    the joke is YOUR logic and betonline you fuuucking dipshiiit


    doesn't take a fukking rocket scientist to hire a competent IT team to stop an attack

    now they're posting on their site that they're down for "maintenance" LMAO yeah ooooookkkkkkk
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    • cyclingbettor
      SBR Sharp
      • 08-26-15
      • 497

      #352
      Originally posted by littlekona
      What dont u understand? bol not first or last site that will be hit....
      I think I'm on the same page as Honeybadger regarding this whole thing, so here's my take. Sites get hit with attacks like this all the time. Understood. Sites don't normally take 10 days to deal with the attack. Am I off base on this? Perhaps it's normal for a site to be down for 10 days, but in my experience I haven't seen it. In the case of a really bad attack, a site might be down for a day. Most of the time it's dealt with so fast you barely even notice it. So, if we are to say that 10 days is an abnormally long time, then what is the explanation? I can think of two off the top of my head: (1) BetOnline has been incompetent in their handling of the attack. (2) This is the most powerful and sophisticated attack in the history of computing. Based on the evidence I've seen, I'm inclined to go with (1). If (2) were the case, however, then, as Badger said, if an attacker had that kind of power at their disposal, I would expect them to attack a more valuable target than BetOnline. That's just my take.


      Originally posted by littlekona
      ..back up for me today
      You're logging in to BetOnline today? Through something other than the mobile or tablet interface?
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      • littlekona
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 11-19-15
        • 5242

        #353
        Originally posted by cyclingbettor
        I think I'm on the same page as Honeybadger regarding this whole thing, so here's my take. Sites get hit with attacks like this all the time. Understood. Sites don't normally take 10 days to deal with the attack. Am I off base on this? Perhaps it's normal for a site to be down for 10 days, but in my experience I haven't seen it. In the case of a really bad attack, a site might be down for a day. Most of the time it's dealt with so fast you barely even notice it. So, if we are to say that 10 days is an abnormally long time, then what is the explanation? I can think of two off the top of my head: (1) BetOnline has been incompetent in their handling of the attack. (2) This is the most powerful and sophisticated attack in the history of computing. Based on the evidence I've seen, I'm inclined to go with (1). If (2) were the case, however, then, as Badger said, if an attacker had that kind of power at their disposal, I would expect them to attack a more valuable target than BetOnline. That's just my take

        lol valuable target....your kidding right? Lol gambling sites are top of list of sites these guys target...most every site I use has been targeted include ones that are licensed in usa like draftkings and ADW for horses like tvg and xpressbet...Betonline or any top book is prime target.....maybe BoL has not handled the best should of had mirrored site ready and cloud flare protection to help plus email all users with info and update
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        • Honeybadger44
          SBR MVP
          • 01-03-14
          • 1675

          #354
          @cyclingbettor
          Thanks for explaining. That is exactly what I was thinking.

          @littlekona
          Poor sarcasm and making fun of people that are expressing their opinion on this situation, rather then enlightening us with some facts and well placed arguments is not cool man. You should try a different approach. It would be better for all of us.
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          • gauchojake
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 09-17-10
            • 34103

            #355
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            • theviking
              SBR Sharp
              • 04-10-07
              • 368

              #356
              Originally posted by PhoKing
              the joke is YOUR logic and betonline you fuuucking dipshiiit
              Of course it is, when you dont understand much
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              • jbayko
                SBR Sharp
                • 12-29-16
                • 310

                #357
                Originally posted by Honeybadger44
                This is becoming a serious concern. I'm starting to doubt this hacker attack story. I mean, we've seen books having problems with similar issues in past and they were solved much faster.
                I agree it's becoming concerning. The one thing that's keeping me from thinking we're being scammed is that the mobile site has (mostly) been up, and sportsbetting.ag and lowvig.ag are still working as well. So it seems that they are trying to stay open for business.

                Why they can't stem the attack on BOL.ag? I have no idea.
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                • jbayko
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 12-29-16
                  • 310

                  #358
                  Originally posted by Honeybadger44
                  I understand the difference. But I don't understand the logic why would someone invest into a million computer attack at fakkin Betonline. How does that pay off for the attacker? To me that would be like buying a tank and then go and rob a liquor store with it.
                  Ransom?

                  Their last statement said that they are part of a coordinated attack on something like 7,000 websites. I don't know if that's true, but if it is, that would explain how it's worth it for the hackers.
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                  • Honeybadger44
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-03-14
                    • 1675

                    #359
                    Yes, that would definitely make more sense. I appreciate the information
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                    • littlekona
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 11-19-15
                      • 5242

                      #360
                      Originally posted by jbayko
                      Ransom?

                      Their last statement said that they are part of a coordinated attack on something like 7,000 websites. I don't know if that's true, but if it is, that would explain how it's worth it for the hackers.
                      Yes ransom.....why don’t you think it’s true? This happens all the time unfortunately for BOL seems like there tech team dropped ball....I’m actually surprised they just didn’t pay as many times the ransom is rather small...if it was NFL season I’d think this wouldn’t of lasted as long
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                      • GordonGecko2011
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 01-13-11
                        • 157

                        #361
                        Home page is up at least now. Step in the right direction. Be patient, shit happens and they will be back soon.
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                        • PhoKing
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 07-04-16
                          • 247

                          #362
                          Originally posted by theviking
                          Of course it is, when you dont understand much
                          read your own post, you're the clueless one
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                          • hapbob
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 03-09-18
                            • 9

                            #363
                            I don’t get it

                            I wish they would explain the problem and what they are doing about it. That would give me some confidence. As of now I have no confidence so am exploring a new book. Big week coming up and don’t want to be shut out !

                            the sport betting.ag comes up but my bol password doesn’t work ?

                            It shouldn’t be this difficult

                            hap
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                            • cyclingbettor
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 08-26-15
                              • 497

                              #364
                              As far as I understand, sportsbetting.ag is a different company. Closely related to BetOnline, but separate. So no, I don't think your BetOnline login information will work on that site.
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                              • jbayko
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 12-29-16
                                • 310

                                #365
                                Originally posted by hapbob
                                I wish they would explain the problem and what they are doing about it. That would give me some confidence. As of now I have no confidence so am exploring a new book. Big week coming up and don’t want to be shut out !

                                the sport betting.ag comes up but my bol password doesn’t work ?

                                It shouldn’t be this difficult

                                hap
                                Same company but a clone. You’d need to create a new account there. You’ll have access to all the exact same lines but not your BOL funds nor history.
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                                • jbayko
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 12-29-16
                                  • 310

                                  #366
                                  Originally posted by littlekona
                                  Yes ransom.....why don’t you think it’s true? This happens all the time unfortunately for BOL seems like there tech team dropped ball....I’m actually surprised they just didn’t pay as many times the ransom is rather small...if it was NFL season I’d think this wouldn’t of lasted as long
                                  If you look at my other posts, included the one right next to this, It’s clear I think it’s more likely to be true than not. It’s just that many others aren’t so sure, and they could be telling us a lie and we’d never know. There is no accountability. And they’ve had website issues in the past.
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                                  • littlekona
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 11-19-15
                                    • 5242

                                    #367
                                    Originally posted by jbayko
                                    If you look at my other posts, included the one right next to this, It’s clear I think it’s more likely to be true than not. It’s just that many others aren’t so sure, and they could be telling us a lie and we’d never know. There is no accountability. And they’ve had website issues in the past.
                                    They have nothing to gain by lying...it’s obviously ddos. It’s cost them a fair sum for sure...No accountability you say....they have been a top book for long long time....every complaint I have seen has been resolved favorably and quickly..website site issues in past? LOL come on every site you can say that about....welcome to world of offshore wagering
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                                    • Limited
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 09-18-15
                                      • 303

                                      #368
                                      I cant read my messages on tablet.betonline.ag (only working page). Any solution?
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                                      • jbayko
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 12-29-16
                                        • 310

                                        #369
                                        Originally posted by littlekona
                                        They have nothing to gain by lying...it’s obviously ddos. It’s cost them a fair sum for sure...No accountability you say....they have been a top book for long long time....every complaint I have seen has been resolved favorably and quickly..website site issues in past? LOL come on every site you can say that about....welcome to world of offshore wagering
                                        We're not really on different sides here. I'm one of the biggest advocates of BetOnline. I also think it's most likely DDoS. You should save your energy to debate the vast number of posters who are standing on a ledge right now.

                                        But the fact is that there is no accountability for ANY of these sites (at least for U.S. players) - even the best ones that we have the most faith in. "Faith" is the key word here. We build trust in these sites based on past history, and that's all we have to go on. The industry is unregulated and there isn't even a governing body that would take action on the behalf of players should something go wrong.
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                                        • BigPage28
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 04-17-16
                                          • 826

                                          #370
                                          i can log on mobile
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                                          • underal
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 02-27-12
                                            • 224

                                            #371
                                            real concern

                                            I am no expert on these computer attacks so I have one question for you experts out there. I can live without betting every day so my only concern is that my money has dissappeared. I assume that they are really trying to fix the problem and would not try a scam like this but can such an attack erase all of our accounts or are they in a secure place?
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                                            • Optional
                                              Administrator
                                              • 06-10-10
                                              • 60826

                                              #372
                                              Originally posted by underal
                                              I am no expert on these computer attacks so I have one question for you experts out there. I can live without betting every day so my only concern is that my money has dissappeared. I assume that they are really trying to fix the problem and would not try a scam like this but can such an attack erase all of our accounts or are they in a secure place?
                                              A DDOS attack is just sending lots of traffic to website to overwhelm the server. It is not usually associated with hackers.

                                              Hackers would break in and do their stealing, not bring attention to themselves with a public attack at the same time.
                                              .
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                                              • bubba
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-29-05
                                                • 2432

                                                #373
                                                even when they do it right they do it wrong. they finally have a message on the homepage they are down. Great! But why add "we'll be back shortly"? Thats been there for 24+ hours? We have a different definition of shortly.
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                                                • Microphone
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-08-08
                                                  • 2950

                                                  #374
                                                  Still shocked that I haven't received a "personal email" from them. Yes I got a PM here on SBR from BOL, but if my business was going to be closed for 1-2 weeks +, every customer of mine is going to hear about first hand, not through a message board.
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                                                  • bubba
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 09-29-05
                                                    • 2432

                                                    #375
                                                    Originally posted by Microphone
                                                    Still shocked that I haven't received a "personal email" from them. Yes I got a PM here on SBR from BOL, but if my business was going to be closed for 1-2 weeks +, every customer of mine is going to hear about first hand, not through a message board.
                                                    going through the message boards is exactly how betislands used to handle things. thats the only comparison between the 2 companies i have right now (besides sbrs backing) but it still scares me
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                                                    • littlekona
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 11-19-15
                                                      • 5242

                                                      #376
                                                      Originally posted by Microphone
                                                      Still shocked that I haven't received a "personal email" from them. Yes I got a PM here on SBR from BOL, but if my business was going to be closed for 1-2 weeks +, every customer of mine is going to hear about first hand, not through a message board.
                                                      You are right on here.....They should have everyone's email in a constant contact type platform and send out updates daily, that takes like a few minutes to do...I don't follow them on twitter but they should also use that as another media for up to date info output...I know many of my other sites do..I have seen quite a few DDOS attacks of late nothing to this extreme though and as much as I feel BOL is a top book still they should be dropped down half a grade or maybe even full due to how they handled this critical issue...That is what the grading system is for right?? If not SBR is setting a precedent that if other books go down for prolonged period they should not be downgraded either.. Sports book review must be fair and balanced no preferential treatment.. Thoughts?
                                                      Last edited by littlekona; 03-12-18, 10:15 AM.
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                                                      • Justin3587
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 08-29-12
                                                        • 2566

                                                        #377
                                                        Mobile down now too. 🤔
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                                                        • Justin3587
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 08-29-12
                                                          • 2566

                                                          #378
                                                          Definitely should have pulled my money yesterday.

                                                          I think BetOnline is done as a company and just using the “attack” as an excuse to get out quickly.

                                                          I feel bad for the players who had mega bucks invested there.
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                                                          • Justin3587
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 08-29-12
                                                            • 2566

                                                            #379
                                                            Yea I did that on both of my browsers on my phone. I dunno man. It ain’t looking good.
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                                                            • SBR Tony
                                                              Moderator
                                                              • 01-31-18
                                                              • 3934

                                                              #380
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                                                              • Justin3587
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 08-29-12
                                                                • 2566

                                                                #381
                                                                Yes. I get that in the regular site. But the mobile has been working up until this morning.
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                                                                • SBR Tony
                                                                  Moderator
                                                                  • 01-31-18
                                                                  • 3934

                                                                  #382
                                                                  Originally posted by Justin3587
                                                                  Can’t see the image for some reason.
                                                                  Fixed it
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                                                                  • Justin3587
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 08-29-12
                                                                    • 2566

                                                                    #383
                                                                    Gotcha. Seems to be working. Spotty at best. It working nevertheless. I definitely think it’s tome for a withdrawal.
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                                                                    • firedawg
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 10-08-08
                                                                      • 39219

                                                                      #384
                                                                      Just cashed out
                                                                      Sick of this happening
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                                                                      • jjgold
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                                        • 388189

                                                                        #385
                                                                        in

                                                                        might be regional
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