Bet365 limited bets

**Hareeba!** · 02-16-16, 06:38 PM

Originally posted by Oleksandr

My account was created over 2 years ago. Good interface and speed processing attracted me. Could tell only pros about it and no cons at all. Variaty of sports options are great. There were wins and loses both the same but not more than 500 usd. No arbitrage betting. Everything was perfect untill some days ago, they restricted account! All they said was: "Your account to be uneconomical based on your type of business."

Unexpectedly one of the best Bookmaker drives you down.

Think at least rating must be downgraded!

They're not commonly referred to as Bet$3.65 for nothing!

**theRIGisin** · 02-17-16, 04:28 AM

did they pay out your remaining balance?

**Oleksandr** · 02-17-16, 08:39 AM

Yes, they did.

**HeeeHAWWWW** · 02-17-16, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by Oleksandr

My account was created over 2 years ago. Good interface and speed processing attracted me. Could tell only pros about it and no cons at all. Variaty of sports options are great. There were wins and loses both the same but not more than 500 usd. No arbitrage betting. Everything was perfect untill some days ago, they restricted account! All they said was: "Your account to be uneconomical based on your type of business."

Unexpectedly one of the best Bookmaker drives you down.

Think at least rating must be downgraded!

Think of it as a compliment - they've judged that you're likely to take money off them.

As for the ratings: they're based on security of money. If they factored in limiting there would be three A books, and all the rest would be F.

**DeathAdder** · 02-17-16, 12:22 PM

I have a sneaking suspicion you were chasing steam or doing something shady. Bet365 is an A+++ book in my eyes and I've always been paid. They've also given me bonuses and freeplays for my loyalty as a customer. Their live betting is second to none and I can't think of a better sportsbook. Pinnacle is a close second.

**Hareeba!** · 02-17-16, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by DeathAdder

I have a sneaking suspicion you were chasing steam or doing something shady. Bet365 is an A+++ book in my eyes and I've always been paid. They've also given me bonuses and freeplays for my loyalty as a customer. Their live betting is second to none and I can't think of a better sportsbook. Pinnacle is a close second.

Huh?

His only complaint is that his betting was limited.
That's what they are renowned for.
Yes, they are otherwise good and do pay.
If you've been playing there for a long time and haven't been limited it clearly means your account must be sufficiently profitable to them.

**Charlie000** · 02-18-16, 12:17 AM

Bet365 limiting accounts colour me shocked

**masachi** · 02-18-16, 12:26 AM

Bet365 close a scammers accounts only.
If you not a scammer - you money is safe. They have a right to limit, it`s recreation sportbook.
Play at another sportsbooks like Pinnacle, SBO

**Dr.Gonzo** · 02-18-16, 01:32 AM

Originally posted by Hareeba!

They're not commonly referred to as Bet$3.65 for nothing!

I wish they had more of a sense of humor and limited every who was undesirable to $3.65 bets

**Oleksandr** · 02-18-16, 06:19 PM

Recently, they did me a favour and gave me a "hope" by announced: "your account could be reviewed in 6 months"!

**Oleksandr** · 02-18-16, 06:34 PM

Bet365 and your money secure - undisputable! But tottaly agree with the statement that if your account unprofitable for them they won't deal with you! It's all about money. "Business is business, nothing personal"!

**GigaOuts** · 02-18-16, 06:38 PM

Many site try to make money by juice & rake, bet $3.65 try to make money by get rid of winner.

**OldschoolGambler** · 02-18-16, 06:41 PM

I learned from friends abt them. I only use them for MMA so they don't kick me out or limit me.

**Hareeba!** · 02-18-16, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by OldschoolGambler

I learned from friends abt them. I only use them for MMA so they don't kick me out or limit me.

So, are you trying to suggest that there are some markets which would exempt you from the standard limiting treatment should your account be unprofitable to them?

**ADR51** · 02-18-16, 08:43 PM

It does not matter if you win little or big....they do not want people winning, period.
I jusdt kept like $5 bucks in there so i can watch the live stream on certain soccer games, but that is it.

**jjgold** · 02-19-16, 11:58 AM

you were betting weak numbers guy

it is why you got banned..winning or losing does not matter

**Charlie000** · 02-19-16, 12:51 PM

^^ At bet365 it does if you win you're gone regardless.

**GigaOuts** · 02-19-16, 01:20 PM

Nope it is not bet$3.65 yet! it is bet$4.80 for me

max bet $4.80 cdn on Linton Vassell to win $6 cdn on bet3.65. I can 'NOT' even win a happy meal .....lol. pathetic!!!

**Oleksandr** · 02-19-16, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

you were betting weak numbers guy

it is why you got banned..winning or losing does not matter

What do you mean under "weak numbers"?

**GigaOuts** · 02-19-16, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by Oleksandr

What do you mean under "weak numbers"?

I am from Canada, so we have super market call - Safeway, Super Store, Save-on Food, Co-Op.

let say a pack of 12 can of coke is:
Safeway - $4.50
SuperStore - $5.99
Save-on Food - $3.99
Co-Op - $4.99

So you buy it from Save-on Food since it is lease expensive, $3.99. So if Save-on Food is bet$3.65, they limit you to 'happy meal' because you take advantage of 'weak price/numbers' since you didn't buy other food item at a regular price. You are not allow to price shop. They want customer to bet just for fun, not getting the best value in the market. According to bet$3.65 & SBR, price shopping for the best line is unethical.....lol.

**ADR51** · 02-19-16, 06:11 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

you were betting weak numbers guy

it is why you got banned..winning or losing does not matter

So.....we are supposed to do their job running lines?

**thordin86** · 02-20-16, 06:44 AM

Originally posted by GigaOuts

I am from Canada, so we have super market call - Safeway, Super Store, Save-on Food, Co-Op.

let say a pack of 12 can of coke is:
Safeway - $4.50
SuperStore - $5.99
Save-on Food - $3.99
Co-Op - $4.99

So you buy it from Save-on Food since it is lease expensive, $3.99. So if Save-on Food is bet$3.65, they limit you to 'happy meal' because you take advantage of 'weak price/numbers' since you didn't buy other food item at a regular price. You are not allow to price shop. They want customer to bet just for fun, not getting the best value in the market. According to bet$3.65 & SBR, price shopping for the best line is unethical.....lol.

Yeah, you missed the point that you can get rich by betting 'weak price/numbers' on bet365 and cause losses to them.
While by buying a pack of coke the shop makes profit.

Its wishful thinking for us to compare these things, they are not the same at all.

**Optional** · 02-20-16, 10:16 AM

Rightly or wrongly, if you chase steam or use any strategy that relies of beating them through technical means rather than gambling just about every book on the planet is going to penalize you.

**GigaOuts** · 02-20-16, 02:11 PM

I am sorry, I don't see the wrong of betting weak line or chasing steam since the market always 'naturally' even itself out in the end. If bet365 limit me to 'happy meal' wager due to betting heavy on weak line, than another bettor will take my place. And if that player got limited, than there will be another bettor will take his place. Eventually the market will even itself out since a dummy could spot a 'weak line' from a distant.

**jjgold** · 02-21-16, 06:38 PM

it is sad they do this

They put lines on and we should be able to bet them without getting banned

Vegas bans people too..William Hill Vegas bans people with 30 days betting soft lines even if only $300 a game

**Dr.Gonzo** · 02-22-16, 06:39 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

you were betting weak numbers guy

it is why you got banned..winning or losing does not matter

Weak numbers...

Forget about weak numbers this site ran -EV markets, for them +EV for us, for years

**Statman** · 02-22-16, 07:23 AM

Did you inquire if your "up" from a lifetime perspective? That would at least allow you to see where you stand? All the good books will share this info as long as you ask the question.

**Hareeba!** · 02-22-16, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by Statman

Did you inquire if your "up" from a lifetime perspective? That would at least allow you to see where you stand? All the good books will share this info as long as you ask the question.

And all good punters wouldn't need to ask that as they'd have the data at their fingertips.
Winners keep records of all their bets. Losers do as they please.

**Grivas_Digeni** · 02-22-16, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by Optional

Rightly or wrongly, if you chase steam or use any strategy that relies of beating them through technical means rather than gambling just about every book on the planet is going to penalize you.

Is there a trick? How does one appear to be a gambler 'to them'? Hide your 80% system bets among 10 times as many break-even nba and mlb bets?

**Optional** · 02-22-16, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by Grivas_Digeni

Is there a trick? How does one appear to be a gambler 'to them'? Hide your 80% system bets among 10 times as many break-even nba and mlb bets?

Using a system is not beating them by technical means.

And I don't have a good answer about how to hide steam betting. Don't think you can. Whatever else you bet as well it's still going to stand out if you do it regularly.

**GigaOuts** · 02-23-16, 08:14 PM

Originally posted by Optional

Using a system is not beating them by technical means.

And I don't have a good answer about how to hide steam betting. Don't think you can. Whatever else you bet as well it's still going to stand out if you do it regularly.

It is possible I don't really understand 'steam' betting but let say I want to bet mma/ufc Conor McGregor who line is sitting at -145 on 4-6 sites. Well, I am a patience gambler, I am not just going to bet it since I don't known where the line is moving. I would feel stupid if I make my normal bet at -145, than the line move to -130, so I wait! Suddenly Conor McGregor line move from -145 to -160, so I quickly login on a site that still have McGregor at -145 to make my bet since that likely the best line I will ever get for McGregor. Am I chasing steam?

**Hareeba!** · 02-23-16, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by GigaOuts

It is possible I don't really understand 'steam' betting but let say I want to bet mma/ufc Conor McGregor who line is sitting at -145 on 4-6 sites. Well, I am a patience gambler, I am not just going to bet it since I don't known where the line is moving. I would feel stupid if I make my normal bet at -145, than the line move to -130, so I wait! Suddenly Conor McGregor line move from -145 to -160, so I quickly login on a site that still have McGregor at -145 to make my bet since that likely the best line I will ever get for McGregor. Am I chasing steam?

Yes.
Basically if you consistently take odds or lines which prove to be superior to what's on offer when the game starts you will fall foul of almost all bookies.

**Optional** · 02-24-16, 12:46 PM

Originally posted by GigaOuts

It is possible I don't really understand 'steam' betting but let say I want to bet mma/ufc Conor McGregor who line is sitting at -145 on 4-6 sites. Well, I am a patience gambler, I am not just going to bet it since I don't known where the line is moving. I would feel stupid if I make my normal bet at -145, than the line move to -130, so I wait! Suddenly Conor McGregor line move from -145 to -160, so I quickly login on a site that still have McGregor at -145 to make my bet since that likely the best line I will ever get for McGregor. Am I chasing steam?

Yes that's exactly it. Catching them out just before they change a line too often.

Some books totally deserve it as they are simply slow and it's there own fault they get targeted by players watching lines. But even those will boot you for it.

Originally posted by Hareeba!

Yes.
Basically if you consistently take odds or lines which prove to be superior to what's on offer when the game starts you will fall foul of almost all bookies.

That's just being sharp and not steam chasing. You are more likely to just have stakes limited than treated like a baddie for that profile.

**Hareeba!** · 02-24-16, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by Optional

That's just being sharp and not steam chasing. You are more likely to just have stakes limited than treated like a baddie for that profile.

I don't think they bother distinguishing between what you refer to as "steam chasing" or "being sharp".
Whether they regard you as "baddie" or not, the fact is that you will get limited at almost all bookies for beating the closing line or odds. And that's what the OP was complaining about.