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  • JayMoney24_7
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 10-10-13
    • 997

    #281
    Originally posted by SBR Forum
    Guys you're reading into this one too much.

    His deposit / all money rightfully his is not in danger.

    5D is colorful making the point sometimes dealing with past-posters, especially when it is as blatant as this particular case, but let that be a discouragement to someone doing the same. It's not worth losing a top-tier book over a cheap attempt to pad your bankroll which will almost certainly always be caught. If you expect your money wired back to you overnight and to not have to at least admit/acknowledge wrongdoing, you expect too much.

    The player's been advised over email on the simple steps he must take to close this one out.
    This is a lie. Tony when asked in the chat when I could expect my refund, what did he say? NEVER. Now he changes his tune and you guys quickly give him the benefit of the doubt. Must be nice to be on the right side. I have been completely honest and this is what happens. This is messed up but thanks SBR for putting a stamp on how TRUELY MESSED UP THIS ONLINE GAMBLING INDUSTRY IS. I CAN'T wait until the US gets in the game so there can be some real watchdogs who care enough to call it straight. Not just work 5D damage control at the expense of ruining the credibility of the real victim in the situation.
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    • bostonboss
      SBR MVP
      • 02-04-09
      • 3169

      #282
      but we all know those books don't line sbr's pockets.....so no a ratings for them...sbr are complete frauds....betislands taught us this....and sbr's sucking of tony's rooster just reinforces it
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      • bostonboss
        SBR MVP
        • 02-04-09
        • 3169

        #283
        if the op really tried to get over on 5 dimes he would have gone away by now and begged for his money back...sbr not saying one negative thing about tony and his threats and childish behavior....laughable.
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        • tb1984
          SBR MVP
          • 09-11-08
          • 3112

          #284
          Originally posted by Kaabee
          ok op, i guess we're gonna need to see screenshots of when you deposited. because if you deposited and then immediately made these bets it will look really bad.
          op, if you deposited with cr-e-di-t card, they would send you a confirmation email. Just post the email.

          Or, you could just go to the "Transaction" page in your 5dimes account, and post the time stamp of your deposit.

          Originally posted by JayMoney24_7
          Read my other thread about when I was trying to go from $150 to $10,000. That was like a week ago and I had challenged myself by trying to work with a small bankroll. Read the explanations for why I like fights and look at the times in relation to the bets I placed. i copy and pasted each bet shortly after making it. it was called JayMoney's Cashout Thread. Why wait till cutoff time when betting on fights? Easy. As a fighter myself, I know the fight game is 90% mental. How you come out to a fight, and your psyche coming to the ring says a lot. If a fighter looks scared, nervous, distraught, unmotivated, etc it will show in the ring. Was I planning all this bs a week/2wks ago too? Or is it my normal behavior? The fight game imo should never be bet on early because of injuries and mental factors that come into play. All my bets on fights in that thread were made in the last few moments until a poster who was following the thread suggested I put them out earlier. Yes I put those out slighty earlier for him. Before that though look at the rest. Mayweather vs Canelo locked that in right before the fight way back in Sept.2013 too. Garcia vs Lucas Mattyse locked that in right before the fight too. Go look at the JayMoney's Cashout Thread that died when the $150 br died. See if my tendacies changed in 4 months. I bet dogs a lot regardless of the mL. mL is just a #. It's all about who you like. Frequency on this bet was due to the limit. Otherwise it would have been 1 big fat amount.
          So, did you watch the pre-fight?
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          • The Kraken
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 12-25-11
            • 28917

            #285
            Originally posted by JayMoney24_7
            This is a lie. Tony when asked in the chat when I could expect my refund, what did he say? NEVER. Now he changes his tune and you guys quickly give him the benefit of the doubt. Must be nice to be on the right side. I have been completely honest and this is what happens. This is messed up but thanks SBR for putting a stamp on how TRUELY MESSED UP THIS ONLINE GAMBLING INDUSTRY IS. I CAN'T wait until the US gets in the game so there can be some real watchdogs who care enough to call it straight. Not just work 5D damage control at the expense of ruining the credibility of the real victim in the situation.
            Tony has quite a history of doing this. I think he sent BTJ 3 cheques that bounced before sending a good one.

            He's gonna be a dick but I wouldn't worry about not getting your money
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            • The Kraken
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 12-25-11
              • 28917

              #286
              Originally posted by JayMoney24_7
              Before editing that comment last night, the tmi one with the smiley face, I copied it on the ipad clipboard because I meant it. Here's what it said word for word copy and pasted:

              Thankfully I'm American and don't have to be subjected to being at the mercy of the god of Costa Rica and public opinions. I'll leave it at that. Came clean with the people and they got my back. MODS thank you guys for your efforts, but I don't need the help anymore. You take advantage of people and it will bite you in the arse. Tony baloney can blow me! Captrobey throw up a hotdog 1 time please.
              One time Cappy
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              • Kaabee
                SBR MVP
                • 01-21-06
                • 2482

                #287
                i'm pretty sure sbrforum meant erroneous boxing lines. pointing out that you deposited the same day as making your past posted bets does not help you.

                what is the time difference between depositing and placing the bets?
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                • SBR Forum
                  Administrator
                  • 12-02-06
                  • 4559

                  #288
                  Originally posted by JayMoney24_7
                  This is a lie. Tony when asked in the chat when I could expect my refund, what did he say? NEVER. Now he changes his tune and you guys quickly give him the benefit of the doubt. Must be nice to be on the right side. I have been completely honest and this is what happens. This is messed up but thanks SBR for putting a stamp on how TRUELY MESSED UP THIS ONLINE GAMBLING INDUSTRY IS. I CAN'T wait until the US gets in the game so there can be some real watchdogs who care enough to call it straight. Not just work 5D damage control at the expense of ruining the credibility of the real victim in the situation.
                  Hi Jay,

                  All the subterfuge is unnecessary. Your funds were never in danger. Please follow the advice of the SBR analyst you've been in contact with, which is really as simple as logging onto 5Dimes live help and making arrangements for the refund with one of the 5D managers specified.
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                  • SBR_John
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 07-12-05
                    • 16471

                    #289
                    Originally posted by bostonboss
                    but we all know those books don't line sbr's pockets.....so no a ratings for them...sbr are complete frauds....betislands taught us this....and sbr's sucking of tony's rooster just reinforces it
                    So are all the players who voted 5Dimes the top sportsbook in 2013 and 2014 frauds too?

                    You, the fellow that never even played there and have zero first hand experience about 5Dimes?? But somehow you think a micro small book with 1/100th the selection and higher juice is better??? I don't want to insult you but your argument is very weak.
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                    • JayMoney24_7
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 10-10-13
                      • 997

                      #290
                      Originally posted by tb1984
                      op, if you deposited with cr-e-di-t card, they would send you a confirmation email. Just post the email.

                      Or, you could just go to the "Transaction" page in your 5dimes account, and post the time stamp of your deposit.



                      So, did you watch the pre-fight?
                      No I didn't watch the event at all. When I watch someone enter the ring I lock it in right before the fight starts. Obviously after everything that has been learned over the last few days this fight started and ended way before the listed start time. My first bet on the fight was locked in 11 minutes after the listed start time which should be even more evidence that I didn't watch the fight and obviously had no clue aside from the line start time listed on 5D.
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                      • JayMoney24_7
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 10-10-13
                        • 997

                        #291
                        Originally posted by SBR Forum
                        Hi Jay,

                        All the subterfuge is unnecessary. Your funds were never in danger. Please follow the advice of the SBR analyst you've been in contact with, which is really as simple as logging onto 5Dimes live help and making arrangements for the refund with one of the 5D managers specified.
                        Wow..I'm speechless. Only thing I'm sure of is that you didn't address Tony like that. Subterfuge? That hurts. After everything that happened, that hurts. Cold world. Don't spend it all in one place buddy.
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                        • HuskerExpat
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 02-23-12
                          • 189

                          #292
                          Originally posted by JayMoney24_7
                          No I didn't watch the event at all. When I watch someone enter the ring I lock it in right before the fight starts. Obviously after everything that has been learned over the last few days this fight started and ended way before the listed start time. My first bet on the fight was locked in 11 minutes after the listed start time which should be even more evidence that I didn't watch the fight and obviously had no clue aside from the line start time listed on 5D.
                          You're just making it more obvious. You bet AFTER the listed start time, which was in fact well after the actual start time. No doubt in my mind now that you knowingly bet past posted. Give me a break. Be happy you're getting your deposit back.
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                          • bostonboss
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-04-09
                            • 3169

                            #293
                            Originally posted by SBR_John
                            So are all the players who voted 5Dimes the top sportsbook in 2013 and 2014 frauds too?

                            You, the fellow that never even played there and have zero first hand experience about 5Dimes?? But somehow you think a micro small book with 1/100th the selection and higher juice is better??? I don't want to insult you but your argument is very weak.
                            I as a business owner would never ever conduct myself as tony does with his clients..therefore I would never do business with him...there is a way to handle disputes with customers...not threaten/name call/and declare himself god..ill play at my non sbr sponsored books
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                            • JayMoney24_7
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 10-10-13
                              • 997

                              #294
                              Originally posted by HuskerExpat
                              You're just making it more obvious. You bet AFTER the listed start time, which was in fact well after the actual start time. No doubt in my mind now that you knowingly bet past posted. Give me a break. Be happy you're getting your deposit back.
                              I'm making it more obvious? The Stevens fight also got locked in 20 minutes later than the listed start time. The SAME EXACT start time. That fight was graded. What was the difference? How would you separate both instances from each other? Please explain how one stands and one doesn't, but still implicate the guy who made both as having been wrong. Obviously they were two random selections and one fight happened to have happened already. If 10:45pm is the 0 in the scale then how does one bet outweigh the other to find me guilty of knowingly past posting. You came in with a strong lean from the beginning.
                              Last edited by JayMoney24_7; 01-28-14, 01:51 PM. Reason: Actually almost 20 minutes later
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                              • bostonboss
                                SBR MVP
                                • 02-04-09
                                • 3169

                                #295
                                Originally posted by SBR_John
                                So are all the players who voted 5Dimes the top sportsbook in 2013 and 2014 frauds too?

                                You, the fellow that never even played there and have zero first hand experience about 5Dimes?? But somehow you think a micro small book with 1/100th the selection and higher juice is better??? I don't want to insult you but your argument is very weak.
                                betislands was ranked 4th by posters at 1point.....your argument is weak.
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                                • Optional
                                  Administrator
                                  • 06-10-10
                                  • 60878

                                  #296
                                  Did we ever find out what time this fight actually started and finished?

                                  Was it still going when the first bet was made?
                                  .
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                                  • SBR_John
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 07-12-05
                                    • 16471

                                    #297
                                    Originally posted by bostonboss
                                    I as a business owner would never ever conduct myself as tony does with his clients..therefore I would never do business with him...there is a way to handle disputes with customers...not threaten/name call/and declare himself god..ill play at my non sbr sponsored books
                                    I'm a business owner too and would agree with you there. But you named a couple of books with just as animated guys at the top. They have stiffed industry folks and paid players in lonnnng drawn out payment plans. Ask them and quote me if you like. And while Tony is no angel he has never stiffed or had anyone on a payment plan.

                                    If you don't want to play there because he roughs up scammers that is one thing. But to say they are not a great book when you have never even tried them is another. They are in a class by themselves when it comes to selection and price.
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                                    • bostonboss
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-04-09
                                      • 3169

                                      #298
                                      Originally posted by SBR_John
                                      I'm a business owner too and would agree with you there. But you named a couple of books with just as animated guys at the top. They have stiffed industry folks and paid players in lonnnng drawn out payment plans. Ask them and quote me if you like. And while Tony is no angel he has never stiffed or had anyone on a payment plan.

                                      If you don't want to play there because he roughs up scammers that is one thing. But to say they are not a great book when you have never even tried them is another. They are in a class by themselves when it comes to selection and price.
                                      from what ive been told tony has stiffed several..i will never be stiffed from that a hole where I play now im treated very well and am always paid.
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                                      • Jetsfan
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 07-07-08
                                        • 276

                                        #299
                                        Originally posted by JayMoney24_7
                                        I'm making it more obvious? The Stevens fight also got locked in 20 minutes later than the listed start time. The SAME EXACT start time. That fight was graded. What was the difference? How would you separate both instances from each other? Please explain how one stands and one doesn't, but still implicate the guy who made both as having been wrong. Obviously they were two random selections and one fight happened to have happened already. If 10:45pm is the 0 in the scale then how does one bet outweigh the other to find me guilty of knowingly past posting. You came in with a strong lean from the beginning.
                                        Hmm.... By "happen to have happened", you mean, one of the games you deposited to bet on was already over. Sounds to me like if you had been straight up from the beginning, you'd very well have saved everyone involved some time and been on your way already.

                                        Maybe you thought by feigning ignorance you would've had the fake winnings honored? The casino isn't going to bend over backwards to accommodate you immediately as soon as your hand gets caught in the cookie jar, especially when you go on a rant and stop short of blaming the milkman for it?

                                        Just my two cents.
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                                        • HuskerExpat
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 02-23-12
                                          • 189

                                          #300
                                          Originally posted by JayMoney24_7
                                          I'm making it more obvious? The Stevens fight also got locked in 11 minutes later than the listed start time. The SAME EXACT start time. That fight was graded. What was the difference? How would you separate both instances from each other? Please explain how one stands and one doesn't, but still implicate the guy who made both as having been wrong. Obviously they were two random selections and one fight happened to have happened already. If 10:45pm is the 0 in the scale then how does one bet outweigh the other to find me guilty of knowingly past posting. You came in with a strong lean from the beginning.
                                          At the bare minimum, you knew what time it was when you made the bet, which you knew was past the posted time. The rules are clear that you're not allow to bet past posted. The fact that it was well after the actual start time only makes it worse that you also knew the result, particularly given that you had just deposited the money and your nonsensical explanation that you always wait until the last minute to bet fights so you can watch the fighter enter the ring since obviously that didn't apply in this situation as you stated you were at work and had no way to know when the fight started. And then the way you started the chat with Tony was pretty suspicious as well. I'm not defending what he said to you, but you looked guilty right from the start of that chat.

                                          Yes, I came in with a strong lean from the beginning, which is based upon the facts that were presented. I started off suspicious but said there was not sufficient proof. The more you talk and the more facts that are presented the more convinced I am that you knowingly bet past posted and you knew the results of the fight.

                                          One thing that Tony said that is accurate and totally appropriate is that you are that special 1% that keeps arguing your case in the face of all the evidence to the contrary. You would be wise to take back your deposit and take the benefit of the lesson learned.
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                                          • JayMoney24_7
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 10-10-13
                                            • 997

                                            #301
                                            Originally posted by Jetsfan
                                            Hmm.... By "happen to have happened", you mean, one of the games you deposited to bet on was already over. Sounds to me like if you had been straight up from the beginning, you'd very well have saved everyone involved some time and been on your way already.

                                            Maybe you thought by feigning ignorance you would've had the fake winnings honored? The casino isn't going to bend over backwards to accommodate you immediately as soon as your hand gets caught in the cookie jar, especially when you go on a rant and stop short of blaming the milkman for it?

                                            Just my two cents.
                                            "Happen to have happened"meaning learned after the fact. C'mon man. This is getting ridiculous. It has been 3 days already. You don't expect that after the chats with Tony and all this drama I know NOW that the fight happened before the bet? That's what "happen to have happened" means in the context I used it. People will continue to jump in the thread and be swayed by the SBR decision since it's too late at this point to read everything and play catchup. It's easy to take things out of context. This sucks for me, but if karma is real one day it will happen to you, and when you try to get help to find justice, someone can dish out the same coldhearted skepticism and judgements.
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                                            • JayMoney24_7
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 10-10-13
                                              • 997

                                              #302
                                              Originally posted by HuskerExpat
                                              At the bare minimum, you knew what time it was when you made the bet, which you knew was past the posted time. The rules are clear that you're not allow to bet past posted. The fact that it was well after the actual start time only makes it worse that you also knew the result, particularly given that you had just deposited the money and your nonsensical explanation that you always wait until the last minute to bet fights so you can watch the fighter enter the ring since obviously that didn't apply in this situation as you stated you were at work and had no way to know when the fight started. And then the way you started the chat with Tony was pretty suspicious as well. I'm not defending what he said to you, but you looked guilty right from the start of that chat.

                                              Yes, I came in with a strong lean from the beginning, which is based upon the facts that were presented. I started off suspicious but said there was not sufficient proof. The more you talk and the more facts that are presented the more convinced I am that you knowingly bet past posted and you knew the results of the fight.

                                              One thing that Tony said that is accurate and totally appropriate is that you are that special 1% that keeps arguing your case in the face of all the evidence to the contrary. You would be wise to take back your deposit and take the benefit of the lesson learned.
                                              I hope it happens to you is all I am going to say. Suspicious this suspicious that, you are just one suspicious paranoid mf. I didn't do nothing wrong but place a regular bet. End of story. You obviously know nothing about fight bets since you think listed start time plays any factor in what time it is ok to lock in a bet. Line shouldn't have been up at all to cause confusion if the fight was over via 12round decision(long time), is the reality of the situation. That 1% you speak of applies to the one who actually told the truth asshole. I'm done with this thread. Clearly there is no reason to keep debating. SBR already took a side, the expected one. I'm done here. For everybody who doubted me, I hope it happens to you and you go through the same bs. You deserve it. Peace, and goodluck to everyone else on your wagers. (Make sure you research each event.)
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                                              • Ted Sheckler
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-08-14
                                                • 1936

                                                #303
                                                Show a screenshot of the deposit.

                                                If you really deposited and bet the full amount on that..I wouldn't give you any money back.
                                                If you deposted 1k, lost 600 and then bet 400 on a fight, which had already happened. I'd give you the 400 back and give you the boot.


                                                Did you already live chat with 5dimes to talk about your refund? How did it go?
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                                                • tb1984
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 09-11-08
                                                  • 3112

                                                  #304
                                                  Originally posted by JayMoney24_7
                                                  I hope it happens to you is all I am going to say. Suspicious this suspicious that, you are just one suspicious paranoid mf. I didn't do nothing wrong but place a regular bet. End of story. You obviously know nothing about fight bets since you think listed start time plays any factor in what time it is ok to lock in a bet. Line shouldn't have been up at all to cause confusion if the fight was over via 12round decision(long time), is the reality of the situation. That 1% you speak of applies to the one who actually told the truth asshole. I'm done with this thread. Clearly there is no reason to keep debating. SBR already took a side, the expected one. I'm done here. For everybody who doubted me, I hope it happens to you and you go through the same bs. You deserve it. Peace, and goodluck to everyone else on your wagers. (Make sure you research each event.)
                                                  You have not addressed any of these:

                                                  Originally posted by tb1984
                                                  op, if you deposited with cr-e-di-t card, they would send you a confirmation email. Just post the email.


                                                  Or, you could just go to the "Transaction" page in your 5dimes account, and post the time stamp of your deposit.

                                                  Originally posted by Kaabee


                                                  what is the time difference between depositing and placing the bets?


                                                  Originally posted by Ted Sheckler
                                                  Show a screenshot of the deposit.

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                                                  • JayMoney24_7
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 10-10-13
                                                    • 997

                                                    #305
                                                    Originally posted by Ted Sheckler
                                                    Show a screenshot of the deposit.

                                                    If you really deposited and bet the full amount on that..I wouldn't give you any money back.
                                                    If you deposted 1k, lost 600 and then bet 400 on a fight, which had already happened. I'd give you the 400 back and give you the boot.


                                                    Did you already live chat with 5dimes to talk about your refund? How did it go?
                                                    Go back to page 3 and look at the jpeg asshole. Uninformed posts which don't care enough to look over the thread to see the facts before posting an opinion/judgement shouldn't even count. They serve only to sway opinions and change the context of the dispute entirely. $1,000 was deposited. That much wasn't even disputed by Tony. The fact you want proof of that and that you don't know how much was wagered of that $1,000 shows you didn't review the thread, only posted comments. I didn't lose that night. picked 2 fights correctly for a handsome sum which is why Tony took exception. I won't be begging Tony for my money back. I'm getting my money back and it won't be by being the poor sap who has to admit to a bs lie in hopes this "god" releases my funds. Like I said in a previous post, if you cared to look back and read the thread before being so biased as shown in your previous posts, I am American and we fortunately have options in these situations. Last post for real and no more questions.
                                                    Last edited by JayMoney24_7; 01-28-14, 03:03 PM.
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                                                    • 23Edler_Salo6
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 02-08-12
                                                      • 200

                                                      #306
                                                      Originally posted by SBR_John
                                                      I don't like to talk about ongoing complaints. Something is always left out of the players story. Plus, it's definitely not good for business.

                                                      If you submitted your complaint it will be reviewed and a decision will be made like the other 50 or so complaints a week are handled. SBR ruled against 5Dimes in a $46k case and they paid. I'm not a fan of the scamming the scammer for damages argument. If the facts are close to as stated I would think the player gets his deposit back after Tony is satisfied that his anti scammer PR campaign has run its course.

                                                      5 Dimes is cruising to be the top book in 2014 as voted on by you guys, the players. Several of those expressing a negative opinion about them in this thread are, ironically enough, booted players for trying some of the same shenanigans.
                                                      I hope you didn't post this with a straight face. You preface your post by stating you don't like to discuss ongoing player complaints, which is a smart move and indicative of professional protocol. The problem is you go on to make a partial judgement as far as tony running an "anti-scammer pr campaign" and implying op is a scammer thereby completely bypassing your statements about allowing the decision to come. This post shows the type of bias that comes from the top. A true third party review site would stay on a hard line about not discussing the case until it has been heard and allowed to be made public.

                                                      This is beside the fact that any impartial review body would not allow the behaviour of tony to maintain an A+ rating. I don't care what the player did, that is a separate issue that will come out, but your position should be to influence a change in how clients are handled at that book because objectively you should be advocating for books to provide respectful customer service and any discipline should be handled through appropriate action, not pointless childish banter that gets the player no where.

                                                      Tony clearly had his mind up. He clearly isn't stupid and knew exactly where this circumstance would end - principal wager returned and shown the door. Why can't you advocate for this to occur in a respectful, professional manner? This whole thread and complaint could have been avoided but tony chose to prolong this, make an example, and waste everyones time for a simple resolution. Your words indicate you have no issues with these rants, which tells readers your impartiality is compromised.
                                                      Last edited by 23Edler_Salo6; 01-28-14, 03:16 PM.
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                                                      • captrobey
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 09-02-10
                                                        • 34354

                                                        #307
                                                        Originally posted by The Kraken

                                                        One time Cappy
                                                        Okey Dokey
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                                                        • captrobey
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 09-02-10
                                                          • 34354

                                                          #308
                                                          For all you do Kraken and Jaymoney -These Hot dog and Bonus picture is for you



















                                                          And a bonus picture of Ed Mcmahon
                                                          Last edited by SBR Jonelyn; 01-15-15, 10:35 AM.
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                                                          • Kaabee
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-21-06
                                                            • 2482

                                                            #309
                                                            why won't you show deposit timestamp?
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                                                            • HuskerExpat
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 02-23-12
                                                              • 189

                                                              #310
                                                              Originally posted by JayMoney24_7
                                                              Go back to page 3 and look at the jpeg asshole. Uninformed posts which don't care enough to look over the thread to see the facts before posting an opinion/judgement shouldn't even count. They serve only to sway opinions and change the context of the dispute entirely. $1,000 was deposited. That much wasn't even disputed by Tony. The fact you want proof of that and that you don't know how much was wagered of that $1,000 shows you didn't review the thread, only posted comments. I didn't lose that night. picked 2 fights correctly for a handsome sum which is why Tony took exception. I won't be begging Tony for my money back. I'm getting my money back and it won't be by being the poor sap who has to admit to a bs lie in hopes this "god" releases my funds. Like I said in a previous post, if you cared to look back and read the thread before being so biased as shown in your previous posts, I am American and we fortunately have options in these situations. Last post for real and no more questions.
                                                              Your pic on page 3 doesn't show what time the deposit hit your account. I don't recall seeing that in any of your pics. I assume your failure to post that info is because it was made just a few minutes prior to your bet, which would implicate you further.

                                                              Despite all of this, you somehow think you are entitled to the winnings of a past posted wager, and/or a refunds of all your deposits which you lost fair and square. That's just more proof you're a scammer. I don't particularly agree with the way Tony handled it. I wouldn't have approved of a casino beating up scammers like in the movie Casino either, but that wouldn't keep me from going since I'm not a cheater.
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                                                              • Ted Sheckler
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-08-14
                                                                • 1936

                                                                #311
                                                                Originally posted by JayMoney24_7
                                                                Go back to page 3 and look at the jpeg asshole. Uninformed posts which don't care enough to look over the thread to see the facts before posting an opinion/judgement shouldn't even count. They serve only to sway opinions and change the context of the dispute entirely. $1,000 was deposited. That much wasn't even disputed by Tony. The fact you want proof of that and that you don't know how much was wagered of that $1,000 shows you didn't review the thread, only posted comments. I didn't lose that night. picked 2 fights correctly for a handsome sum which is why Tony took exception. I won't be begging Tony for my money back. I'm getting my money back and it won't be by being the poor sap who has to admit to a bs lie in hopes this "god" releases my funds. Like I said in a previous post, if you cared to look back and read the thread before being so biased as shown in your previous posts, I am American and we fortunately have options in these situations. Last post for real and no more questions.


                                                                Hey Tony JR, settle down.

                                                                Glad you're getting some money back.
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                                                                • PD77
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 12-11-09
                                                                  • 2381

                                                                  #312
                                                                  Good Luck JayMoney, I hope you at the very least get your money back. We will probably never know all of the facts of what happened so dont hold it against the peanut gallery. You wouldn't believe how many people come on here with similar stories, there are some very good reads on SBR from the lady in Minnesota whose account was traced back to a Costa Rican sportsbook employee (5*****) to the Dollar Scholar Cole Bartiromo and his magical 15 team parlays. This place has literally seen it all so of course everyone will be skeptical. Let us know what happens.
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                                                                  • SBR_John
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 07-12-05
                                                                    • 16471

                                                                    #313
                                                                    Originally posted by 23Edler_Salo6
                                                                    I hope you didn't post this with a straight face. You preface your post by stating you don't like to discuss ongoing player complaints, which is a smart move and indicative of professional protocol. The problem is you go on to make a partial judgement as far as tony running an "anti-scammer pr campaign" and implying op is a scammer thereby completely bypassing your statements about allowing the decision to come. This post shows the type of bias that comes from the top. A true third party review site would stay on a hard line about not discussing the case until it has been heard and allowed to be made public.

                                                                    This is beside the fact that any impartial review body would not allow the behaviour of tony to maintain an A+ rating. I don't care what the player did, that is a separate issue that will come out, but your position should be to influence a change in how clients are handled at that book because objectively you should be advocating for books to provide respectful customer service and any discipline should be handled through appropriate action, not pointless childish banter that gets the player no where.

                                                                    Tony clearly had his mind up. He clearly isn't stupid and knew exactly where this circumstance would end - principal wager returned and shown the door. Why can't you advocate for this to occur in a respectful, professional manner? This whole thread and complaint could have been avoided but tony chose to prolong this, make an example, and waste everyones time for a simple resolution. Your words indicate you have no issues with these rants, which tells readers your impartiality is compromised.
                                                                    Fair criticism. Except for the fact there were many pages asking for an SBR comment and in any case I have nothing to do with complaints. I offered my opinion and prefaced it with "If the facts are close to as (you) stated" clearly meaning I do not know them. So fair enough but I felt a comment would not be inappropriate.

                                                                    As far as bookmakers behavior, this is not JP Morgan, this is an offshore bookmaker. They all are pretty rough. Even the Euro books are rough. BetFair is brutal as well. If we rated books on their conduct of how they handled scammers they would eventually all be an F. Most guys sorta inherently understand that if you scam a bookie you won't be talking to a geek in a bow tie. So until the poster poll has 5Dimes somewhere other than #1 I would not expect a rating change.
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                                                                    • bostonboss
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 02-04-09
                                                                      • 3169

                                                                      #314
                                                                      or when 5 dimes no longer pays for their A+ rating and sponsor
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                                                                      • tb1984
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 09-11-08
                                                                        • 3112

                                                                        #315
                                                                        Originally posted by JayMoney24_7
                                                                        Go back to page 3 and look at the jpeg asshole. Uninformed posts which don't care enough to look over the thread to see the facts before posting an opinion/judgement shouldn't even count. They serve only to sway opinions and change the context of the dispute entirely. $1,000 was deposited. That much wasn't even disputed by Tony. The fact you want proof of that and that you don't know how much was wagered of that $1,000 shows you didn't review the thread, only posted comments. I didn't lose that night. picked 2 fights correctly for a handsome sum which is why Tony took exception. I won't be begging Tony for my money back. I'm getting my money back and it won't be by being the poor sap who has to admit to a bs lie in hopes this "god" releases my funds. Like I said in a previous post, if you cared to look back and read the thread before being so biased as shown in your previous posts, I am American and we fortunately have options in these situations. Last post for real and no more questions.
                                                                        I think you can't do a charge-back, because you already sent 5dimes authorization forms for your CCs.
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