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  • olemissbydamn
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 09-27-12
    • 838

    #526
    Wow that was just a beautiful goal, not much you can say about that. Looks like Mexico is certainly finding their form. May try to hedge depending on what second half lines are looking like.
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    • olemissbydamn
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 09-27-12
      • 838

      #527
      Did we just get a pen call? CMON MARTINIQUE NET THIS SHIATTT.
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      • olemissbydamn
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 09-27-12
        • 838

        #528
        The david vs. goliath Martinique GGGGGGGOOOOOOOAAAAAAALLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!
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        • cogiditopapa
          SBR MVP
          • 08-03-10
          • 3489

          #529
          Whaaaaaat's boys!, out all day but looks like I just made it in time to see Mexico draw with Martinique
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          • olemissbydamn
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 09-27-12
            • 838

            #530
            I don't hedge winning bets so I didn't touch the second half line. Martinique should get a few more chances this half just a matter of it they can buckle down on defense.
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            • olemissbydamn
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 09-27-12
              • 838

              #531
              damn, what a late cover.. oh well
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              • cogiditopapa
                SBR MVP
                • 08-03-10
                • 3489

                #532
                Originally posted by olemissbydamn
                damn, what a late cover.. oh well
                Martinique players were fueled!.... Moving on
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                • cogiditopapa
                  SBR MVP
                  • 08-03-10
                  • 3489

                  #533
                  Hey fellas, I posted in my thread already I posted here to begin the discussion.



                  ElSalvador -- Haiti (2 units)
                  Haiti PK, -0.5 at 2.53


                  Honduras -- Trinidad&Tobago (1 unit)
                  Honduras ML


                  As of right now Trinidad is in the last spot of this group due to goal differential, Trinidad -2 and El Salvador -1.
                  I dout that Haiti will come out to try to draw the game as a bad "remote" combination (Trinidad winning and El Salvador winning will leave them out of the tourney) I think Haiti will try to win the game to seal the pass to the next round.
                  Another remote option is that Haiti wins the game by 4 goals and Honduras loses, this will mean that Honduras will have to play the 2nd place from group A "Mexico", this is the very same reason I think Honduras will try to win their game.


                  If Honduras win the game by 1 goal and El Salvador loses the game by one goal, el Salvador will still make it to the next round as one of the best 3rd places. On the other hand El Salvador may relay on Honduras to beat Trinidad and they can try to play for the draw....


                  Their are definatily quite of few scenarios in this group, some with a high percentage of happening and others not very likely.


                  The approach I took in my bets is Teams don't want to risk and relay on others, therefore I think Haiti has what it takes to beat El Salvador and Honduras has what it takes to beat Trinidad. GL.
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                  • frugalgambler
                    SBR MVP
                    • 05-30-13
                    • 3418

                    #534
                    Interesting analysis. I disagree with a few points. First, Honduras vs T&T will play after the Haiti's match is done so it should affect their motivation for that game. Second, I disagree that Salvador will lose to Haiti. I think it will be an open game in which both teams should be able to score. Salvador needs to win and hopefully at least 3 goals will be scored. Haiti's defense will have harder time dealing with smaller and faster El Salvador players (see Haiti vs Honduras game). Therefore, my pick is o2/2.5 and pk,-0.5 for El Salvador. Salvador needs to win to qualify, while Haiti will qualify even with a one-goal loss provided T&T does not beat Honduras. There is of course also a possibility that both teams will agree on a 1-0 or 2-1 win for El Salvador and fix this game, but it is probably very unlikely. As I am typing this I am becoming less certain in my o2/2.5 pick.

                    I will wait for the first match to be done to see how to bet on the second one but my tentative lean is under 2/2.5. There is of course a possibility that if El Salvador wins, Honduras will sell their game to T&T since they would have the 1st place in any case. LOL, this is becoming complicated.
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                    • frugalgambler
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-30-13
                      • 3418

                      #535
                      Originally posted by cogiditopapa
                      Hey fellas, I posted in my thread already I posted here to begin the discussion.



                      ElSalvador -- Haiti (2 units)
                      Haiti PK, -0.5 at 2.53


                      Honduras -- Trinidad&Tobago (1 unit)
                      Honduras ML


                      As of right now Trinidad is in the last spot of this group due to goal differential, Trinidad -2 and El Salvador -1.
                      I dout that Haiti will come out to try to draw the game as a bad "remote" combination (Trinidad winning and El Salvador winning will leave them out of the tourney) I think Haiti will try to win the game to seal the pass to the next round.
                      Another remote option is that Haiti wins the game by 4 goals and Honduras loses, this will mean that Honduras will have to play the 2nd place from group A "Mexico", this is the very same reason I think Honduras will try to win their game.


                      If Honduras win the game by 1 goal and El Salvador loses the game by one goal, el Salvador will still make it to the next round as one of the best 3rd places. On the other hand El Salvador may relay on Honduras to beat Trinidad and they can try to play for the draw....


                      Their are definatily quite of few scenarios in this group, some with a high percentage of happening and others not very likely.


                      The approach I took in my bets is Teams don't want to risk and relay on others, therefore I think Haiti has what it takes to beat El Salvador and Honduras has what it takes to beat Trinidad. GL.
                      This is not true. If El Salvador and Honduras do not win, they will not qualify as a 3rd placed team. The teams that will qualify wil be Martinique and the winner of Belize/Cuba (probably Cuba).
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                      • cogiditopapa
                        SBR MVP
                        • 08-03-10
                        • 3489

                        #536
                        Originally posted by frugalgambler
                        Interesting analysis. I disagree with a few points. First, Honduras vs T&T will play after the Haiti's match is done so it should affect their motivation for that game. Second, I disagree that Salvador will lose to Haiti. I think it will be an open game in which both teams should be able to score. Salvador needs to win and hopefully at least 3 goals will be scored. Haiti's defense will have harder time dealing with smaller and faster El Salvador players (see Haiti vs Honduras game). Therefore, my pick is o2/2.5 and pk,-0.5 for El Salvador. Salvador needs to win to qualify, while Haiti will qualify even with a one-goal loss provided T&T does not beat Honduras. There is of course also a possibility that both teams will agree on a 1-0 or 2-1 win for El Salvador and fix this game, but it is probably very unlikely. As I am typing this I am becoming less certain in my o2/2.5 pick.

                        I will wait for the first match to be done to see how to bet on the second one but my tentative lean is under 2/2.5. There is of course a possibility that if El Salvador wins, Honduras will sell their game to T&T since they would have the 1st place in any case. LOL, this is becoming complicated.
                        Originally posted by frugalgambler

                        This is not true. If El Salvador and Honduras do not win, they will not qualify as a 3rd placed team. The teams that will qualify wil be Martinique and the winner of Belize/Cuba (probably Cuba).
                        Good points, and yes you are right this is getting complicated
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                        • cogiditopapa
                          SBR MVP
                          • 08-03-10
                          • 3489

                          #537
                          I have thought about the over 2.5 too on the Haiti.
                          I read in a couple Salvadorian news papers were the captain of the team stated that they were devastated about losing against Honduras, Morale could go down to the ground if Haiti scores 1st which I think it will happen. The game Honduras - Haiti, Honduras had 2 chances and they scored, Haiti kept possession of the ball and were extremely fast, their problem was that they were horrible in the final 3rd. I don't see Haiti losing to El Salvador.

                          Smart move to post your play after the 1st game. I placed my wager as I think that Trinidad showed cero desire to win the game against Haiti and were very lucky to draw to El Salvador.

                          excellent point if the draw is the result. You are right Cuba or Belize could still make it.
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                          • Akatana
                            SBR MVP
                            • 05-05-13
                            • 1307

                            #538
                            Originally posted by frugalgambler
                            Interesting analysis. I disagree with a few points. First, Honduras vs T&T will play after the Haiti's match is done so it should affect their motivation for that game. Second, I disagree that Salvador will lose to Haiti. I think it will be an open game in which both teams should be able to score. Salvador needs to win and hopefully at least 3 goals will be scored. Haiti's defense will have harder time dealing with smaller and faster El Salvador players (see Haiti vs Honduras game). Therefore, my pick is o2/2.5 and pk,-0.5 for El Salvador. Salvador needs to win to qualify, while Haiti will qualify even with a one-goal loss provided T&T does not beat Honduras. There is of course also a possibility that both teams will agree on a 1-0 or 2-1 win for El Salvador and fix this game, but it is probably very unlikely. As I am typing this I am becoming less certain in my o2/2.5 pick.

                            I will wait for the first match to be done to see how to bet on the second one but my tentative lean is under 2/2.5. There is of course a possibility that if El Salvador wins, Honduras will sell their game to T&T since they would have the 1st place in any case. LOL, this is becoming complicated.
                            Where the hell is Columbo when you need him!
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                            • olemissbydamn
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 09-27-12
                              • 838

                              #539
                              Without looking at all of the "if this happens, this will happen, etc" I like Haiti and Honduras today. Haiti is clearly a better team than what they were given credit for coming into the tournament, and El Salvador is pretty much as advertised. T&T plays with heart but they only leave one lone striker up top and spend the whole game trying to defend and play the long ball, and against Honduras (also like we've seen against other teams) that will not work. T&T has the speed and ability to be able to get the ball in the final attacking third and try to make a play but not with that formation, so it will be interesting to see if they can mix things up when they are on the ropes.

                              I need to look at the Haiti game more, but right now I'm leaning towards Haiti DNB and Honduras ML. Still early on in the day so things could definitely change as I look at it more. I'm just excited for Costa Rica/USA tomorrow should be a great game with some good lines to bet on.
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                              • onemoregoal
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 02-04-13
                                • 8149

                                #540
                                El Salvador v Haiti - 0-2 and 1-2 correct scores @ 15.00 and 11.0
                                small fun bets,
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                                • olemissbydamn
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 09-27-12
                                  • 838

                                  #541
                                  Fired in Haiti ML DNB
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                                  • cogiditopapa
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 08-03-10
                                    • 3489

                                    #542
                                    Originally posted by onemoregoal
                                    El Salvador v Haiti - 0-2 and 1-2 correct scores @ 15.00 and 11.0
                                    small fun bets,
                                    Originally posted by olemissbydamn
                                    Fired in Haiti ML DNB
                                    The believer is in tha house , Haiti make me proud! I believe in a 2-1 score, Haiti wins!
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                                    • cogiditopapa
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 08-03-10
                                      • 3489

                                      #543
                                      Final score 3-1 or 2-0 maybe....I put a couple of units in the Haiti -1 and 1 unit on -1.5,
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                                      • roma
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 06-27-12
                                        • 120

                                        #544
                                        Originally posted by cogiditopapa
                                        Final score 3-1 or 2-0 maybe....I put a couple of units in the Haiti -1 and 1 unit on -1.5,


                                        chapin el salvador is more than haiti tonight u will see
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                                        • olemissbydamn
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 09-27-12
                                          • 838

                                          #545
                                          Originally posted by cogiditopapa
                                          Final score 3-1 or 2-0 maybe....I put a couple of units in the Haiti -1 and 1 unit on -1.5,
                                          Damn what book has Haiti -1? It's been a PK all day for me
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                                          • cogiditopapa
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 08-03-10
                                            • 3489

                                            #546
                                            Originally posted by olemissbydamn
                                            Damn what book has Haiti -1? It's been a PK all day for me
                                            5Dimes
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                                            • cogiditopapa
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-03-10
                                              • 3489

                                              #547
                                              Originally posted by roma
                                              chapin el salvador is more than haiti tonight u will see
                                              Bro, I wish it would be, as I love to root for my neighbor but this is not "El cuscatlan" (I wouldn't dare to bet against El Salvador if they are playing there)...But I think El Salvador took a big hit when Honduras won, that was devastating to have such a late goal scored on them. When I bet this game I thought of how I usually feel when Guatemala must perform in do or die situations and more often than not, they come out with the short end of the stick....GL to El Salvador but better luck to Haiti as they are playing better, are faster and will exploit El Salvador in counters. Hopefully Haiti don't start losing the ball in dangerous places
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                                              • Akatana
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 05-05-13
                                                • 1307

                                                #548
                                                Originally posted by roma
                                                chapin el salvador is more than haiti tonight u will see
                                                I don't totally disagree with that, but Haiti play their hearts out that's just how they are for specific reasons, if el salvador is going to beat them they have to get their shit right.
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                                                • olemissbydamn
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 09-27-12
                                                  • 838

                                                  #549
                                                  Originally posted by roma
                                                  chapin el salvador is more than haiti tonight u will see
                                                  Thanks for that detailed analysis
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                                                  • cogiditopapa
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 08-03-10
                                                    • 3489

                                                    #550
                                                    Originally posted by olemissbydamn
                                                    Thanks for that detailed analysis
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                                                    • Akatana
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 05-05-13
                                                      • 1307

                                                      #551
                                                      Originally posted by olemissbydamn
                                                      Thanks for that detailed analysis
                                                      lol'z
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                                                      • cogiditopapa
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 08-03-10
                                                        • 3489

                                                        #552
                                                        There are some extremely nice odds for the over, if you guys think that the over will hit:

                                                        2.5 at 2.51
                                                        2.5,3 at 2.90
                                                        3.5 at 5.0
                                                        4.5 at 10.0
                                                        5.5 at 30.01

                                                        0.10 units on the over 3.5, 4.5 and 5.5 doesn'y hurt but If we are supossed to see an open game, we may see goals....
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                                                        • cogiditopapa
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 08-03-10
                                                          • 3489

                                                          #553
                                                          Like Onemoregoal usually says, just for fun =)
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                                                          • frugalgambler
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 05-30-13
                                                            • 3418

                                                            #554
                                                            Going against the line movement with El Salvador pk/+1/2. Go El Salvador !
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                                                            • Akatana
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 05-05-13
                                                              • 1307

                                                              #555
                                                              I'm ready to fire some bullets at HF in-play depending on how the first-half goes, get ready my friends
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                                                              • Fayt13
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 09-09-10
                                                                • 321

                                                                #556
                                                                Odds tell me this game has draw written all over it
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                                                                • olemissbydamn
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 09-27-12
                                                                  • 838

                                                                  #557
                                                                  Extremely early impressions are that Haiti is content to play for a draw but since they haven't been playing like that it is hard for them to disallow attacking when they themselves aren't trying to move the ball forward as much as they have previously. This is going to make this night very long for them (and possibly me). Hopefully they decide that this is not the way to go and begin attacking more.

                                                                  I know 6th minute, but just saying this is what I see.

                                                                  EDIT: COME ON LUIS SILVER PLATTERED FOR YOU THERE
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                                                                  • Akatana
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 05-05-13
                                                                    • 1307

                                                                    #558
                                                                    Haiti is kinda on fire though, i don't see el salvador doing anything here
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                                                                    • olemissbydamn
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 09-27-12
                                                                      • 838

                                                                      #559
                                                                      Wow what a save. Ball never should have gotten in there though.
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                                                                      • hundo
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 03-14-13
                                                                        • 561

                                                                        #560
                                                                        Wow, amature...
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