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  • Akatana
    SBR MVP
    • 05-05-13
    • 1307

    #666
    This is the third team of Honduras...
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    • theballsflop
      SBR MVP
      • 06-22-13
      • 1483

      #667
      Punish Tony!
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      • MatI
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 02-17-11
        • 5200

        #668
        Originally posted by vasilli07
        Will T&T score an own goal now? They will face Mexico if they finish 2nd and Panama if they finish 3rd.
        This is looking very possible. Im sure T&T wouldnt mind a 1-2 scoreline so much.
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        • O
          SBR MVP
          • 01-21-12
          • 1980

          #669
          Originally posted by cogiditopapa
          5Dimes, I was amazed when I saw it too.
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          • O
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            • 01-21-12
            • 1980

            #670
            These games haven't even been exciting to watch. If neither team wants to score... why even finish?
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            • roma
              SBR High Roller
              • 06-27-12
              • 120

              #671
              crazy game
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              • cogiditopapa
                SBR MVP
                • 08-03-10
                • 3489

                #672
                Originally posted by roma
                crazy game
                Man Thanks for posting...it was the push I needed to fire!
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                • frugalgambler
                  SBR MVP
                  • 05-30-13
                  • 3418

                  #673
                  Pretty exciting games tomorrow. USA will face their first "quality" opponent. But if you suffered through Belize/Costa Rica match, you'd know that Costa Rica is anything but that. They just did not hold the ball very well. I have no idea why USA is not a bigger favorite, so I am going rather big on -0.5/-1 USA. Klinsmann announced that they are going with their best players. Costa Rica might still sneak a goal past the USA defense which has been a bit lackadaisical, but USA should be able to produce at least two or three goals. If the line moves in my favor, as I expect it will, I might hedge a bit. Also firing on o2.5 for the reasons above. In the first match, I expect that Cuba should win so a unit on Cuba ML. Hopefully some Belize players will lay down again; but even if they will not be bribed, Cuba is a more experienced team with better offensive players.
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                  • cogiditopapa
                    SBR MVP
                    • 08-03-10
                    • 3489

                    #674
                    Agreed. US ML and -1 for me. Jurgen stated that Costa Rica is their 1st major milestone. CostaRica May park the bus and try to play counter.
                    I will throw a unit on Cuba too. BOL.
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                    • Akatana
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-05-13
                      • 1307

                      #675
                      Bol guys, Have USA ML in a parlay with some tennis matches and also took USA -1 as a single. USA playing their best is surely going to be different. Does anyone know where Dempsy is? Is he even in the roster at all or no? I'm going to check but thanks in advance
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                      • frugalgambler
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                        • 05-30-13
                        • 3418

                        #676
                        Originally posted by Akatana
                        Bol guys, Have USA ML in a parlay with some tennis matches and also took USA -1 as a single. USA playing their best is surely going to be different. Does anyone know where Dempsy is? Is he even in the roster at all or no? I'm going to check but thanks in advance
                        This is the MLS-based USA team, so he is not on the roster. The MLS guys are trying to earn their way on the World Cup team, so it should work to our advantage.
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                        • Akatana
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                          • 05-05-13
                          • 1307

                          #677
                          Originally posted by frugalgambler
                          This is the MLS-based USA team, so he is not on the roster. The MLS guys are trying to earn their way on the World Cup team, so it should work to our advantage.
                          Thanks Fru...
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                          • theballsflop
                            SBR MVP
                            • 06-22-13
                            • 1483

                            #678
                            I simply took USA ML @ 1.74. Not gonna be greedy, don't want to push anymore.
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                            • Akatana
                              SBR MVP
                              • 05-05-13
                              • 1307

                              #679
                              Originally posted by theballsflop
                              I simply took USA ML @ 1.74. Not gonna be greedy, don't want to push anymore.
                              I know what you mean. That's the way to go in this game, Costa Rica is also going to make rotations to improve their squad from the last game no point in taking long shots here when you get that kind of price for the USA ML. I got it just a little bit lower than that @ 1.68 for my parlay that consisted of 2 tennis games which both won, so USA holding the key to that one for me. Bol
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                              • olemissbydamn
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 09-27-12
                                • 838

                                #680
                                Originally posted by frugalgambler
                                This is the MLS-based USA team, so he is not on the roster. The MLS guys are trying to earn their way on the World Cup team, so it should work to our advantage.
                                Where do you get the impression it's an "MLS based" team? A lot of the squad does not in fact play in the USA. They've been making a pretty big deal of it that 3-4 players are from the same Mexican club in Tijuana. I think I get what you are saying, just confused me for a few minutes.

                                I want to see how the line moves today but I agree with taking the ML. Over is a so/so play in my mind because a game like this could easily be 2-0 / 1-0 depending on the pace of play and how each team moves the ball. I think the US take this one, Jurgen wants it bad, but Costa Rica is no joke, even after that awful performance against Belize.
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                                • the tross
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 02-14-13
                                  • 450

                                  #681
                                  I wish you guys luck on the USA ML, it should hit but i cant stop thinking that this game means more than just winning to two sides already qualified to advance . Both coaches will want to see good shape in formation with discipline and patience on the ball. under 2.5 goals for me @ 1.79.As for the Cuba and (where the fuk is) Belize match it should be a cracker. I'll take a small slice on Belize to go balls out and win the
                                  corner handicap +1 @ 2.30 i know its out there but what the fuk. Goodluck boys and lets hope we're on the right side of the refs call.
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                                  • olemissbydamn
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 09-27-12
                                    • 838

                                    #682
                                    Originally posted by the tross
                                    I wish you guys luck on the USA ML, it should hit but i cant stop thinking that this game means more than just winning to two sides already qualified to advance . Both coaches will want to see good shape in formation with discipline and patience on the ball. under 2.5 goals for me @ 1.79.As for the Cuba and (where the fuk is) Belize match it should be a cracker. I'll take a small slice on Belize to go balls out and win the
                                    corner handicap +1 @ 2.30 i know its out there but what the fuk. Goodluck boys and lets hope we're on the right side of the refs call.
                                    Yeah the more I think about the USA game I could definitely see a draw. While the USA has looked MUCH better they are still more inexperienced than this Costa Rican team and will need to play disciplined. USA has more pace to their play and attacks much more than Costa Rica but as we've seen this type of play leaves them exposed on the back line and Costa Rica can certainly take advantage of that. You've got to think both teams want this badly though, Costa Rica for revenge and USA wants to show themselves (the younger guys, B team) to the world that they mean business.

                                    If Wondo, Donovan, Holden, Diskerud, Torres, Gomez, etc, want to show they want to be at the WC, this is the first of a few games for them to do so. I would love to see Wondo get a goal in this match. I wasn't a huge Wondo fan after his pretty lame stint with the USMNT, and I know he's been scoring against lesser competition, but if he makes those same runs he's been making against good teams he's likely to find himself scoring goals still.
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                                    • the tross
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 02-14-13
                                      • 450

                                      #683
                                      I gotta tell you Ole, that i know nothin about this comp or these teams. But i just cant tell you how many times ive been burned on a 1.70 play over the years, it hurts too much. goodluck man.
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                                      • DarkNite
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 10-12-09
                                        • 5023

                                        #684
                                        USA vs Costa Rica = X
                                        Each team will get ONE pts and with advantage of USA = #1 seed.
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                                        • vasilli07
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 05-08-11
                                          • 3955

                                          #685
                                          USA-Costa Rica game will only last 80 mins. If the score is still a draw by 80 mins, I expect both teams to slow the tempo, shake hands and settle for a draw.

                                          Cuba-Belize will be a better game to bet on. Both teams know that they need a win and will play for the whole 90 mins.
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                                          • frugalgambler
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 05-30-13
                                            • 3418

                                            #686
                                            Originally posted by olemissbydamn
                                            Where do you get the impression it's an "MLS based" team? A lot of the squad does not in fact play in the USA. They've been making a pretty big deal of it that 3-4 players are from the same Mexican club in Tijuana. I think I get what you are saying, just confused me for a few minutes.

                                            I want to see how the line moves today but I agree with taking the ML. Over is a so/so play in my mind because a game like this could easily be 2-0 / 1-0 depending on the pace of play and how each team moves the ball. I think the US take this one, Jurgen wants it bad, but Costa Rica is no joke, even after that awful performance against Belize.
                                            Right, I did not say it was all MLS team. More than 50% of the team is from MLS. This is what was said on TV, dude. Klinsmann wants to test the MLS players.
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                                            • cogiditopapa
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-03-10
                                              • 3489

                                              #687
                                              Originally posted by DarkNite
                                              USA vs Costa Rica = X
                                              Each team will get ONE pts and with advantage of USA = #1 seed.
                                              Originally posted by vasilli07
                                              USA-Costa Rica game will only last 80 mins. If the score is still a draw by 80 mins, I expect both teams to slow the tempo, shake hands and settle for a draw.

                                              Good points, placing a bet on the draw at 3.70 now is a nice insurence to my ML and -1. Thanks!

                                              Cuba-Belize will be a better game to bet on. Both teams know that they need a win and will play for the whole 90 mins.
                                              Good points, placing a bet on the draw at 3.70 now is a nice insurence to my US ML and -1.
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                                              • JT OZ
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 08-16-10
                                                • 2076

                                                #688
                                                [QUOTE=vasilli07;19169684]USA-Costa Rica game will only last 80 mins. If the score is still a draw by 80 mins, I expect both teams to slow the tempo, shake hands and settle for a draw.

                                                I understand the logic being used on the possibilities for a draw but hoping its not a boring game. Been at work all day and really looking forward to the game tonight so hopefully its not a snoozer.
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                                                • frugalgambler
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 05-30-13
                                                  • 3418

                                                  #689
                                                  Originally posted by vasilli07
                                                  USA-Costa Rica game will only last 80 mins. If the score is still a draw by 80 mins, I expect both teams to slow the tempo, shake hands and settle for a draw.

                                                  Cuba-Belize will be a better game to bet on. Both teams know that they need a win and will play for the whole 90 mins.

                                                  I really do not think USA will be satisfied with a draw. It is not like winning a group in Gold Cup is a major achievement.The forwards will need to keep scoring to increase their chances of making to the world cup team, so I do not think USA will stop playing if the game is a draw.

                                                  Now, Cuba and Belize are all but eliminated. Cuba needs to win by 4 or more to qualify, so the potential for a snoozefest is much higher in that game.
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                                                  • swordsandtequila
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 02-23-12
                                                    • 9757

                                                    #690
                                                    Originally posted by frugalgambler
                                                    I really do not think USA will be satisfied with a draw. It is not like winning a group in Gold Cup is a major achievement.The forwards will need to keep scoring to increase their chances of making to the world cup team, so I do not think USA will stop playing if the game is a draw.

                                                    Now, Cuba and Belize are all but eliminated. Cuba needs to win by 4 or more to qualify, so the potential for a snoozefest is much higher in that game.
                                                    Agree with this. Players still trying to earn a spot on the WC team, and they're a better team. No need to over-analyze. If the US doesn't win this game they should give up soccer forever.
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                                                    • theballsflop
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 06-22-13
                                                      • 1483

                                                      #691
                                                      This will be the kind of match where if USA wins, the non-believers will just stay silent and lurk... but on the off chance USA loses, 'I TOLD U SO!'
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                                                      • olemissbydamn
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 09-27-12
                                                        • 838

                                                        #692
                                                        @Frugal -- Are you from the USA? For USA national soccer, winning the Gold Cup is a big deal. Getting to the Confederation's Cup is a big deal. Seeing as both winners go now for the USA to go ahead and clinch a birth in the Confed Cup would be huge. These players want to prove themselves, they will be dissatisfied with a draw. The forwards want to create chances, get goals, impress Jurgen. The back line wants to get back their reputation after allowing goals to both Cuba and Belize. They are going to come out fighting, and with their strong attack they will create many chances in my mind.

                                                        Costa Rica wants revenge. The coach is still upset the "Snow Cup" was played in the first place, and he wants the chance to prove that had conditions been better, Costa Rica would of in fact won that game. This is his chance to do so. I think both of these teams are going to come out and try to win. That being said, I agree with vasili in that if this game is still tied in the 80th minute, both teams would be content to sit back and play for the draw. I think the first 79 minutes will paint a different picture though.

                                                        The juice on the -1 is about even, and I could see it being a likely push. Might be worth the play just to see if the USA could get a 2 goal win though. The over under is nothing I want to go for, as this game could be 1-1, 2-0, etc, and while the possibility of an over is there, I just don't feel confident taking either side of that.

                                                        Cuba/Belize is just a matter of two trash teams -- which one stinks the worst, and that is Belize in my opinion. Sure, they played Costa Rica close, but Cuba is more organized and I think a little more talented and may be able to get a 1-0, 2-1 win over Belize. That one is more of a toss up though.
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                                                        • frugalgambler
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                                                          • 05-30-13
                                                          • 3418

                                                          #693
                                                          I did not say winning the Gold Cup is not a big deal for team USA. I said winning a group is not a big deal Anyway, we shall see in a few hours. Maybe Cost Rica is better than they looked vs Belize, but I doubt it.
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                                                          • olemissbydamn
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 09-27-12
                                                            • 838

                                                            #694
                                                            Originally posted by frugalgambler
                                                            I did not say winning the Gold Cup is not a big deal for team USA. I said winning a group is not a big deal Anyway, we shall see in a few hours. Maybe Cost Rica is better than they looked vs Belize, but I doubt it.
                                                            I overlooked that my bad, yet I still kind of disagree. USA wants to show they are deserved of being one of the most highly touted teams coming into the Gold Cup and I think Jurgen knows a loss would hurt their confidence moving forward. I'm with you on betting USA (if that's what you implied about Costa Rica not being that great) I just think it'll be closer than everyone is thinking. Costa Rica is not a bad team by any stretch.
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                                                            • O
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-21-12
                                                              • 1980

                                                              #695
                                                              Olemiss...... we are on the same side yet again. Not sure that is good news for you as the Gods are against me (you have all been warned). That said, I am trying to not over think the game and look too much into the revenge factor (while I think it is real and in their minds). USA is playing better than Costa Rica, period. Let's not forget, it is a HOME game for the US and regardless of their standing (already advancing) they want to put their absolute best foot forward to build enthusiasm around the sport in the States. Couple that with those trying to make the team..... this is the game where they can make a statement. I was suppose to go to the game but got hurt and I know the fans are fired up. The Snow Cup is on ESPN and people are getting amped for it. Most american's how no idea between the World Cup and the Gold Cup. They just know the USA is playing soccer. One of the players in response to Costa Rica's continued complaint on the Snow Cup, "If it weren't snowing, the only difference would have been we have scored more". Boys are going to back up the win again on home turf, look good for the coach and most of all, do it for the fans.

                                                              That said, CR 2-0. F'me!!!!
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                                                              • O
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-21-12
                                                                • 1980

                                                                #696
                                                                Sorry for the shitty grammar peeps......I think you get my point. GL wherever your money is.
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                                                                • olemissbydamn
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 09-27-12
                                                                  • 838

                                                                  #697
                                                                  Originally posted by O
                                                                  Olemiss...... we are on the same side yet again. Not sure that is good news for you as the Gods are against me (you have all been warned). That said, I am trying to not over think the game and look too much into the revenge factor (while I think it is real and in their minds). USA is playing better than Costa Rica, period. Let's not forget, it is a HOME game for the US and regardless of their standing (already advancing) they want to put their absolute best foot forward to build enthusiasm around the sport in the States. Couple that with those trying to make the team..... this is the game where they can make a statement. I was suppose to go to the game but got hurt and I know the fans are fired up. The Snow Cup is on ESPN and people are getting amped for it. Most american's how no idea between the World Cup and the Gold Cup. They just know the USA is playing soccer. One of the players in response to Costa Rica's continued complaint on the Snow Cup, "If it weren't snowing, the only difference would have been we have scored more". Boys are going to back up the win again on home turf, look good for the coach and most of all, do it for the fans.

                                                                  That said, CR 2-0. F'me!!!!
                                                                  USA will not lay a goose egg on the scoresheet. They know a 0 much much more than a loss sets them back extremely far. I think they are (and hoping) they come out guns a blazin'
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                                                                  • O
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 01-21-12
                                                                    • 1980

                                                                    #698
                                                                    Originally posted by olemissbydamn
                                                                    USA will not lay a goose egg on the scoresheet. They know a 0 much much more than a loss sets them back extremely far. I think they are (and hoping) they come out guns a blazin'

                                                                    Believe me, I agree. I was only saying that because of how things have been going for me. I have about 36 units to win on this. Let's hope. Otherwise, I taking a break (as I should have last week, but these games I thought were easy.... now I'm trying to get it back like a dope).
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                                                                    • vasilli07
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 05-08-11
                                                                      • 3955

                                                                      #699
                                                                      Any Cuban players defected?
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                                                                      • O
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 01-21-12
                                                                        • 1980

                                                                        #700
                                                                        Shit..... i forgot about that......
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