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I will use, dudes competing against chicks, as my example of what anti-woke is.

anti-woke is admitting allowing men to compete against women in competitive sports is idiotic.
Woke is clapping when the dude beats the women by a lot and pretending men don't have a physical advantage.
Anti-woke person would be embarrassed at how stupid people are allowing this and would demand and end to this.
A woke person wouldn't care how unfair this is to all those women who have trained so hard.
Woke people will declare how amazing, inspirational, and brave it is to have a trans woman competing in women's sports. The anti-Woke will say you're a fukking moron.
Anti-woke person sticks up for what is right and decent.
Woke person doesn't give a shit about decency and fairness.
Anti-woke person who is in the crowd will say this isn't right, this isn't fair, this is wrong etc
Woke person will clap and pretend this is fine and how its a victory for trans people.

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I'm obviously on the woke end of the spectrum but don't think sex changed athletes should be included in womens sports. Certainly not in the way it was developing with any and all those that wanted to allowed.

But I don't think those that advocate for it should be shut out without consideration at all.

You don't need to agree with every 'woke opinion' to be woke enough to respect the right for people to try and get that done.


You often say woke people try to stop you holding an opinion or expressing it. But in your case of transgenders in sport, isn't it only the anti-woke side trying to suppress freedom of opinion?

I am sure we could come up with examples of both sides acting that same way.

I'd ask, do you really want anyone on either side to not be free to speak their own minds?

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I'm obviously on the woke end of the spectrum but don't think sex changed athletes should be included in womens sports. Certainly not in the way it was developing with any and all those that wanted to allowed.

But I don't think those that advocate for it should be shut out without consideration at all.

You don't need to agree with every 'woke opinion' to be woke enough to respect the right for people to try and get that done.


You often say woke people try to stop you holding an opinion or expressing it. But in your case of transgenders in sport, isn't it only the anti-woke side trying to suppress freedom of opinion?

I am sure we could come up with examples of both sides acting that same way.

I'd ask, do you really want anyone on either side to not be free to speak their own minds?

There are certain things that are non negotiable based on science. There is no argument here nor debate. I suppose if one tells me that the sky is red, they are welcome to their opinion but everyone knows they are not playing with a full deck.

Why pander to delusions when an issue is clear as day?

Speaking your mind is one thing, but actually implementing things that are 100% wrong is another. The fact that we actually had men competing against women in high school and college sports as well as the Olympics was a travesty.

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There are certain things that are non negotiable based on science. There is no argument here nor debate. I suppose if one tells me that the sky is red, they are welcome to their opinion but everyone knows they are not playing with a full deck.

Why pander to delusions when an issue is clear as day?

Speaking your mind is one thing, but actually implementing things that are 100% wrong is another. The fact that we actually had men competing against women in high school and college sports as well as the Olympics was a travesty.

Do you want me to argue for transgenders in womens sport? You know I don't agree with that idea.

But I strongly disagree that there is no room for debate.

Debate enlightens. Suppression breeds ignorance.

I bet even you could come up with talking points to support transgender rights if put on a debate team to argue that side.

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Do you want me to argue for transgenders in womens sport? You know I don't agree with that idea.

But I strongly disagree that there is no room for debate.

Debate enlightens. Suppression breeds ignorance.

I bet even you could come up with talking points to support transgender rights if put on a debate team to argue that side.

I agree on 99% of issues, not on this one. Certain things are non negotiable and you can debate or give your take until the cows come home but men are men and women are women at the end of the day. I do not really want to rehash the obvious regarding men being physically stronger etc etc...

Issues like this are the ones that make liberals all lose all credibility.

You can tell me the sky is red and you are welcome to your opinion. However, that doesn't mean I can't ignore you and have a good laugh.

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With the rapidly going amount of people identifying as transgender, maybe it's time for them to have their own leagues.

That way they can make their own rules and deal with it themselves.

Why make people that cannot relate, understand. They understand, and relate.

Seems like an easy fix too me.

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I'm obviously on the woke end of the spectrum but don't think sex changed athletes should be included in womens sports. Certainly not in the way it was developing with any and all those that wanted to allowed.

But I don't think those that advocate for it should be shut out without consideration at all.

You don't need to agree with every 'woke opinion' to be woke enough to respect the right for people to try and get that done.


You often say woke people try to stop you holding an opinion or expressing it. But in your case of transgenders in sport, isn't it only the anti-woke side trying to suppress freedom of opinion?

I am sure we could come up with examples of both sides acting that same way.

I'd ask, do you really want anyone on either side to not be free to speak their own minds?

how are the anti-woke side trying to suppress freedom of opinion?

Woke Netflix employees protested outside their own office building against the David Chapel Netflix special where mentioned transgender in his routine. Ironically, he actually said nice things about the transgender person in his act.

You have it backwards. Its almost always the woke who are suppressing freedom of opinion.

During Trump's first term, you couldn't wear a MAGA hat in public in many places. That still rings true in certain places today but much less obviously.

If you wore a MAGA hat to a restaurant or on a plane, the restaurant would refuse to serve you or you would be harassed. On a plane they would make you take it off or the person beside you would ask you to remove it or ask the flight attendant if they could change seats. If you wore a Biden or Kamala hat, no one would bother you. We can disagree and still be civil. Is that a good enough example?

Omg you bought a Tesla but expressed your opinion the government waste is bad. The opinion didn't sit well with the woke crowd did it? They keyed your car. The burned Tesla's and Tesla dealerships. How dare you be in favor of elimination government waste. How dare you! Who were the people keying Tesla's a few months ago? Woke or anti-woke?

Last example ... if you broke down on the side of the road in the middle of no where with a Harris/Walz bumper sticker, and needed help, and a F-150 came along, with a Trump 2024 sticker, a TRUMP 2024 flag and the driver wore a red MAGA hat, he would pull over and offer to help you. If the rolls were reverse, they would drive by while giving him the finger.

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With the rapidly going amount of people identifying as transgender, maybe it's time for them to have their own leagues.

That way they can make their own rules and deal with it themselves.

Why make people that cannot relate, understand. They understand, and relate.

Seems like an easy fix too me.

I have said the same thing. Make a transgender division.

No one is against transgenders. All of us only go around the sun a certain number of times, so you should live your lives how you want. Just don't force it on children and quite pretending men and women are the same. They aren't. That's why there are 2 bathrooms and why Olympics have men and women's events.

BTW, why does it seem there is a rapid increase of people identifying as transgender?

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I have said the same thing. Make a transgender division.

No one is against transgenders. All of us only go around the sun a certain number of times, so you should live your lives how you want. Just don't force it on children and quite pretending men and women are the same. They aren't. That's why there are 2 bathrooms and why Olympics have men and women's events.

BTW, why does it seem there is a rapid increase of people identifying as transgender?

I wonder if it is the media and even politics that has helped blow it up by seemingly giving it a voice ?

At first, it was just live and let live. Just get along and know that not everyone is the same. Fine. But then when given recognition, it is pushed forward.

A political view one way or the other will only sensationalize it I think. But just a guess.

It's been around forever, but not shoved up everybody's nose.

It seems like a trendy thing to do these days.

Kids that are boys and girls in middle school, which is what I see and hear daily, pretty much just roll their eyes at it. They think it's dumb. They are not affected other than to say it gets annoying after a while.

I guess that when you finally recognize a certain thing, like gay or straight, there is seemingly always an overreaction for a while, then the next thing comes along, and the previous one settles down some. Let's hope so.

Dwight, when I hear all that stuff, I just tune out. Do and be what you want, but don't tell me I have to respond or act a certain way to it.

I always found it odd that when given a voice or opportunity to just be whatever someone wants to be, more often than not, those that are different, just can't be different, they need to ram it down everyone's throat and make sure everyone responds to their liking.

Isn't that why there are curtains on windows. You be you, I'll be me, and chill the heck out.

Maybe I'm crazy.

Who knows.

BTW, 10 hours of commercial free football starts... in 8 days.

I know... go Fins!

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I wonder if it is the media and even politics that has helped blow it up by seemingly giving it a voice ?

At first, it was just live and let live. Just get along and know that not everyone is the same. Fine. But then when given recognition, it is pushed forward.

A political view one way or the other will only sensationalize it I think. But just a guess.

It's been around forever, but not shoved up everybody's nose.

It seems like a trendy thing to do these days.

Kids that are boys and girls in middle school, which is what I see and hear daily, pretty much just roll their eyes at it. They think it's dumb. They are not affected other than to say it gets annoying after a while.

I guess that when you finally recognize a certain thing, like gay or straight, there is seemingly always an overreaction for a while, then the next thing comes along, and the previous one settles down some. Let's hope so.

Dwight, when I hear all that stuff, I just tune out. Do and be what you want, but don't tell me I have to respond or act a certain way to it.

I always found it odd that when given a voice or opportunity to just be whatever someone wants to be, more often than not, those that are different, just can't be different, they need to ram it down everyone's throat and make sure everyone responds to their liking.

Isn't that why there are curtains on windows. You be you, I'll be me, and chill the heck out.

Maybe I'm crazy.

Who knows.

BTW, 10 hours of commercial free football starts... in 8 days.

I know... go Fins!

I agree with basically everything you said.

BTW, since moving to Thailand, Sunday kick off is midnight for me and 1 am when they daylight savings ends.

Miami will shock the world

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I agree with basically everything you said.

BTW, since moving to Thailand, Sunday kick off is midnight for me and 1 am when they daylight savings ends.

Miami will shock the world

Oh that's right. Forgot about the severe time change.

You gotta record that if possible.

Good luck this season Dwight !

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BTW, why does it seem there is a rapid increase of people identifying as transgender?

Here are the transgender demographics.
Yes, there is an increase.

How many adults and youth identify as transgender in the United States?