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  • b1slickguy
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-24-11
    • 11959

    #1051
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kamala Harris wants to “invest in reduced population” ��<br><br>��<br> <a href="https://t.co/BTp8PBeRvL">pic.twitter.com/BTp8PBeRvL</a></p>&mdash; Wall Street Silver (@WallStreetSilv) <a href="https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1680002641865191432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >July 14, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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    • khicks26
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 09-16-06
      • 45499

      #1052
      Originally posted by Optional
      Is it lack of info?

      I don't think there is any lack of info. Just a lack of the will to check anything out for themselves.
      Yea I was trying to be nice.


      Orwell gets it right. Those guys never had a chance.

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      • khicks26
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 09-16-06
        • 45499

        #1053
        Originally posted by Optional
        Well I will offer a google link for other American readers who might want to learn about how life expectancy in the USA has dropped massively, particularly in men.

        I don't think you will find ONE SOURCE TO DISPUTE IT whilst there will be hundreds of sources confirming it. Just one click Kermit. It won't hurt even if it will freak you out.




        Now that's a serious issue any patriot should "want to hear about" (and maybe even do/say something about)



        Do you "want to hear" about how six times too many Americans died during covid than needed to as well?

        Nah, of course not! Keep those fingers in your ears!



        YFI...
        Yes this is true. I think last year was the first year that more people died in the US than were born.


        It has a lot to do with drug overdoses, suicide, lack of affordable healthcare and the overall breakdown of society. Yea and covid didn't help, or the total disregard to take it seriously.
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        • khicks26
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 09-16-06
          • 45499

          #1054
          Originally posted by Optional
          Well I will offer a google link for other American readers who might want to learn about how life expectancy in the USA has dropped massively, particularly in men.

          I don't think you will find ONE SOURCE TO DISPUTE IT whilst there will be hundreds of sources confirming it. Just one click Kermit. It won't hurt even if it will freak you out.




          Now that's a serious issue any patriot should "want to hear about" (and maybe even do/say something about)



          Do you "want to hear" about how six times too many Americans died during covid than needed to as well?

          Nah, of course not! Keep those fingers in your ears!



          YFI...
          I mean there are wildfires in Canada, two months worth of rain in an hour in the north east, heat waves in Texas and FLA. The ocean water around FLA is the hottest its ever been. This year will break another record as the hottest.

          What are these guys talking about? Biden and China, Hunters Laptop still, and which M&M is the sexiest.
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          • TheMoneyShot
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 02-14-07
            • 28672

            #1055
            Originally posted by Hareeba!
            Raise whatever they want. All they do is rig voting machines etc. All their donors are idiots. Why donate when the sh## is rigged. Oh wait... they donate to cover up the rig sh##. OH I GET IT!!
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            • Hareeba!
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 07-01-06
              • 37040

              #1056
              Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
              Raise whatever they want. All they do is rig voting machines etc. All their donors are idiots. Why donate when the sh## is rigged. Oh wait... they donate to cover up the rig sh##. OH I GET IT!!
              There were something like 60 court cases thrown out because they could produce no evidence about the election being rigged.
              On top of that that have been numerous "audits" which came to the same conclusion.
              And Fox was taken to the cleaners by Dominion over lies about their voting machines. Same is going to happen for Smartmatic.
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              • Greget
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 11-01-10
                • 10516

                #1057
                Duke Researchers: Life Expectancy Down For Gen-Xers

                https://www.wunc.org/health/2018-12-21/duke-researchers-life-expectancy-down-for-gen-xers-and-millennials

                The data shows, on average, that people living in states in which former President Donald Trump won in 2020 had a life expectancy in 2023 of 75.5 years, versus 77.7 years for those in states that backed President Joe Biden.


                Maybe the problem will fix itself
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                • Optional
                  Administrator
                  • 06-10-10
                  • 61050

                  #1058
                  I don't know who or what is to blame for it. But USA should have near the longest life expectancy on earth based on how rich people are and how much money goes into medical and pharma.

                  But when American males born today are only expected to live for 73 years, ranked right under Albania, Chechnya and Costa Rica (which I have seen being derided as a third world nation on this forum many times) whilst at least 20 countries expect over 80 years from their males, it is mind blowing this is not the biggest issue politicians are talking about.

                  7 years is a massive difference. Where is the outrage/panic and effort to address it?


                  Too busy distracted by gender and the other dumb talking points the machine is feeding us all daily maybe?

                  Be angry about why people are dying too early and too often, not who is defecating in what bathroom or which POTUS' son is the bigger tool, FFS.
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                  • Optional
                    Administrator
                    • 06-10-10
                    • 61050

                    #1059
                    People like Kermit who says he doesn't want to hear about the life expectancy problem or why six times too many Americans died during covid should be banned from voting as a good start to addressing it.

                    Idiot drone people should also need a license to post their "opinions" publicly.

                    That would make it pointless to brainwash the mentally feeble types.

                    Freedom of speech for morons is destroying our culture in the internet age. F*** freedom of speech. Responsibility for speech would be a better catch cry in 2023.
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                    • DwightShrute
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-17-09
                      • 102746

                      #1060
                      Originally posted by Optional
                      People like Kermit who says he doesn't want to hear about the life expectancy problem or why six times too many Americans died during covid should be banned from voting as a good start to addressing it.

                      Idiot drone people should also need a license to post their "opinions" publicly.

                      That would make it pointless to brainwash the mentally feeble types.

                      Freedom of speech for morons is destroying our culture in the internet age. F*** freedom of speech. Responsibility for speech would be a better catch cry in 2023.
                      who decides what that will be? You? AOC? Fauci? Some kids with a genders studies degree? Who exactly will decides what is responsible or acceptable speech?
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                      • Optional
                        Administrator
                        • 06-10-10
                        • 61050

                        #1061
                        Originally posted by DwightShrute

                        who decides what that will be? You? AOC? Fauci? Some kids with a genders studies degree? Who exactly will decides what is responsible or acceptable speech?
                        I don't have the answer to that but it seems very apparent that freedom of speech is not helpful or good for us in 2023.

                        It's an excuse to gaslight and lie and brainwash.

                        The way our media bodies have all "taken sides" instead of being balanced and factual is the proof of that for me.


                        Responsibility in speech should not be abhorrent to anyone.


                        I know you hate the idea philosophically, but surely you can see the way it's now misused and abused in 2023.
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                        • JIBBBY
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 12-10-09
                          • 83693

                          #1062
                          White House is a bunch of cocaine drug addicts, transgenders and gay people of color now running the show.

                          They are flying rainbow flags in front of the White House also above the American flag. What ever happen to America and normalcy? I can't believe it's gone this far.. : (
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                          • DwightShrute
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 01-17-09
                            • 102746

                            #1063
                            Originally posted by Optional
                            I don't have the answer to that but it seems very apparent that freedom of speech is not helpful or good for us in 2023.

                            It's an excuse to gaslight and lie and brainwash.

                            The way our media bodies have all "taken sides" instead of being balanced and factual is the proof of that for me.


                            I know you hate the idea philosophically, but surely you can see the way it's now misused and abused in 2023.
                            Its certainly isn't an excuse. Who cares if its misused and abused? It is now. It always as been since like forever. Why fukk around with allowing who decides what is acceptable or not? What is true or not? I mean how many examples showing things that were banned at once point and just a few months later were allowed because they turned out to be true do you need?

                            Bad idea Opti. I rather have to put up with liars than censors. I can choose those with a proven track record of telling the truth and avoid those who don't. I can do my homework and check out multiple sores if needed.

                            These people want to control you. If they can control speech, then can control thought and then they can control people. It all about power. Look at the last election as a perfect example. Look at the pandemic as another one. Imagine if the government was in charge of what can or cannot be said? We'd all still be under a lockdown maybe and Hunter's laptop would still be Russian disinformation.

                            Freedom of speech is good for us. All of us. It sure beats the alternative. That's for certain.
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                            • DwightShrute
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 01-17-09
                              • 102746

                              #1064
                              Originally posted by Hareeba!
                              There were something like 60 court cases thrown out because they could produce no evidence about the election being rigged.
                              On top of that that have been numerous "audits" which came to the same conclusion.
                              And Fox was taken to the cleaners by Dominion over lies about their voting machines. Same is going to happen for Smartmatic.
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                              • Optional
                                Administrator
                                • 06-10-10
                                • 61050

                                #1065
                                There is no right to freedom of speech down here. Is there legislated rights to say anything you want where you live? I'd guess not same as here.

                                But we still speak freely enough and I don't hear anyone who lives here complaining about how there are laws to hold people to account for lies and misinformation.

                                Your idea of unfettered FOS doesn't necessarily beat the alternatives. You have just been told it is super important but I don't think you have evidence it is. The only argument I hear is not having it can't work as someone has to decide. Courts are there to decide and work quite well for it here.
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                                • DwightShrute
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-17-09
                                  • 102746

                                  #1066
                                  Originally posted by Optional
                                  There is no right to freedom of speech down here. Is there legislated rights to say anything you want where you live? I'd guess not same as here.

                                  But we still speak freely enough and I don't hear anyone who lives here complaining about how there are laws to hold people to account for lies and misinformation.

                                  Your idea of unfettered FOS doesn't necessarily beat the alternatives. You have just been told it is super important but I don't think you have evidence it is. The only argument I hear is not having it can't work as someone has to decide. Courts are there to decide and work quite well for it here.
                                  Courts aren't there to decide what you can or cannot say. At least they shouldn't be. The number one thing as a human being on this planet that you should be able to do is speak your mind.

                                  and once again, who decides what is a lie and misinformation? The government? They are the last people who should.
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                                  • Optional
                                    Administrator
                                    • 06-10-10
                                    • 61050

                                    #1067
                                    Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                    Courts aren't there to decide what you can or cannot say. At least they shouldn't be. The number one thing as a human being on this planet that you should be able to do is speak your mind.

                                    and once again, who decides what is a lie and misinformation? The government? They are the last people who should.
                                    Can you speak your mind where you live? I can here. So not seeing the big advantage you see as yet.

                                    And why should courts not decide if you have lied or been reckless with your choice of public speech? Works here. You just saying they can't means zero. What's your evidence for saying it can't?

                                    Although maybe that's a pointless question when i am talking to someone who continues to insist the last election was rigged despite 60 or 70 courts all saying there isn't even enough evidence to hear the big lie. That's you gaslighting btw. Just keep insisting you know better when there is a mountain of proof that there was no real evidence for your claim. Repeat it enough and you hope to make people question that reality.


                                    An absolute right to freedom of speech does not help ordinary people. But it enables media and bad actors to exploit it. The rest of us are not being gagged by laws. The only gagging of what we say is currently driven by partisan drones wanting to cancel anyone that has an opinion they dont like... so much for freedom of speech in that system.
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                                    • DwightShrute
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 01-17-09
                                      • 102746

                                      #1068
                                      Originally posted by Optional
                                      Can you speak your mind where you live? I can here. So not seeing the big advantage you see as yet.

                                      And why should courts not decide if you have lied or been reckless with your choice of public speech? Works here. You just saying they can't means zero. What's your evidence for saying it can't?

                                      Although maybe that's a pointless question when i am talking to someone who continues to insist the last election was rigged despite 60 or 70 courts all saying there isn't even enough evidence to hear the big lie. That's you gaslighting btw. Just keep insisting you know better when there is a mountain of proof that there was no real evidence for your claim. Repeat it enough and you hope to make people question that reality.


                                      An absolute right to freedom of speech does not help ordinary people. But it enables media and bad actors to exploit it. The rest of us are not being gagged by laws. The only gagging of what we say is currently driven by partisan drones wanting to cancel anyone that has an opinion they dont like... so much for freedom of speech in that system.
                                      its hard to believe anyone really thinks like this.

                                      Yes I can speak my mind for the most part but surely you can see this ability is slowly deteriorating all around the world. Misgendering someone is some countries is a crime now. It all starts with little things lie it does with crime but in the opposite way. Stealing is ok now in one city and then before you know it, its several cities. Then its you can't steal over $50 or you will be arrested. $49 is ok however. Then California decided to raise that to $950 or less is acceptable. Just don't steal anything over that amount. These are the same brilliant people who want to be in charge of decide what you can or cannot say.

                                      As far as the big lie goes, that just the narrative you choose to push from the Liberal media. Have you looked into tall those cases? I have looked into several and it confirmed what I already heard from other sources than your Left dominated media, and that is many of these judges refused to even hear evidence. They didn't want to get involved. Its much easier to dismiss it and keep your job and get reelected than to go against the deep state. The big lie is perfectly acceptable is the democrats are disputing election results or standing up in congress telling everyone how rigged Dominion voting machine are but if a republican says the exact same thing, then hell breaks loose. All of a sudden they are conspiracists and we must censor them. Its comical that you are unable to see this reality.


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                                      • Optional
                                        Administrator
                                        • 06-10-10
                                        • 61050

                                        #1069
                                        Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                        its hard to believe anyone really thinks like this.

                                        Yes I can speak my mind for the most part but surely you can see this ability is slowly deteriorating all around the world. Misgendering someone is some countries is a crime now. It all starts with little things lie it does with crime but in the opposite way. Stealing is ok now in one city and then before you know it, its several cities. Then its you can't steal over $50 or you will be arrested. $49 is ok however. Then California decided to raise that to $950 or less is acceptable. Just don't steal anything over that amount. These are the same brilliant people who want to be in charge of decide what you can or cannot say.
                                        That appears to be a paragraph of pure deflection.

                                        Why are you going on about stuff like "stealing is now ok" as an argument for codified freedom of speech?!?

                                        If anything you not wanting the things above means you want those opinions stiffled, doesn't it?!


                                        Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                        As far as the big lie goes, that just the narrative you choose to push from the Liberal media. Have you looked into tall those cases?
                                        What's my narrative??? That I have faith in 70 different courts saying you are wrong??

                                        And what on earth do you mean have I looked into those cases? Please don't tell me that you think you had more access to evidence and could make a wiser decision than 70 different judges!
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                                        • DwightShrute
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 01-17-09
                                          • 102746

                                          #1070
                                          Originally posted by Optional
                                          That appears to be a paragraph of pure deflection.

                                          Why are you going on about stuff like "stealing is now ok" as an argument for codified freedom of speech?!?

                                          If anything you not wanting the things above means you want those opinions stiffled, doesn't it?!




                                          What's my narrative??? That I have faith in 70 different courts saying you are wrong??

                                          And what on earth do you mean have I looked into those cases? Please don't tell me that you think you had more access to evidence and could make a wiser decision than 70 different judges!
                                          ok then lets look at a couple other things.

                                          Impeachment one against Trump: Explain how its possible that every single democrat voted to impeach the president despite having no evidence whatsoever. first time in history that a complete partisan impeachment vote. I am not even talking about the millions it costs the taxpayer. 230 civil employees all conspired to deceive the public without a single shred of evidence in order to gain more political power then and in the future.

                                          51 former intelligence officials: 51 of the supposedly smartest national security minds with decades of experience all colluded together to sign a letter to purposely mislead and gaslight the pubic in order to rig the upcoming election by calling Hunter Biden's laptop 'Russian disinformation'. Knowing full well that if voters would have been able to see what the Biden's have been doing in secret, they would have lost the election. The polls have it that 17% of democrats would not have voted for Biden in they knew about the story. Never mind the FBI had the laptop for almost an entire year.

                                          Then we have Russian collusion of course. A fabricated lie designed to rig an election and the following midterms.

                                          230 democrats + 51 former intelligence officials + the FBI + Obama + Crooked Hilary + the Liberal establishment media + big tech = thousands of people purposely lying in order to rig an election.

                                          Keep lying to yourself or start believing your own eyes and ears. Your choice.
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                                          • jackpot269
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 09-24-07
                                            • 12827

                                            #1071
                                            Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                            There were something like 60 court cases thrown out because they could produce no evidence about the election being rigged.
                                            On top of that that have been numerous "audits" which came to the same conclusion.
                                            And Fox was taken to the cleaners by Dominion over lies about their voting machines. Same is going to happen for Smartmatic.
                                            The audits in Arizona and Georgia were all run by Republicans.
                                            Remember the day, that the Arizona results, from the last audit was coming out, and all the Trump backers were talking smack, then it came out that night and nothing.
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                                            • jackpot269
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 09-24-07
                                              • 12827

                                              #1072
                                              Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                              Courts aren't there to decide what you can or cannot say. At least they shouldn't be. The number one thing as a human being on this planet that you should be able to do is speak your mind.

                                              and once again, who decides what is a lie and misinformation? The government? They are the last people who should.
                                              1st bold) Really? So, you disagree when the courts ruled that you can't yell ''fire'' in a crowded theatre.

                                              2nd) If you go to court, hopefully a jury after hearing all the evidence.
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                                              • Greget
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 11-01-10
                                                • 10516

                                                #1073
                                                Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                ok then lets look at a couple other things.

                                                Impeachment one against Trump: Explain how its possible that every single democrat voted to impeach the president despite having no evidence whatsoever. first time in history that a complete partisan impeachment vote. I am not even talking about the millions it costs the taxpayer. 230 civil employees all conspired to deceive the public without a single shred of evidence in order to gain more political power then and in the future.

                                                51 former intelligence officials: 51 of the supposedly smartest national security minds with decades of experience all colluded together to sign a letter to purposely mislead and gaslight the pubic in order to rig the upcoming election by calling Hunter Biden's laptop 'Russian disinformation'. Knowing full well that if voters would have been able to see what the Biden's have been doing in secret, they would have lost the election. The polls have it that 17% of democrats would not have voted for Biden in they knew about the story. Never mind the FBI had the laptop for almost an entire year.

                                                Then we have Russian collusion of course. A fabricated lie designed to rig an election and the following midterms.

                                                230 democrats + 51 former intelligence officials + the FBI + Obama + Crooked Hilary + the Liberal establishment media + big tech = thousands of people purposely lying in order to rig an election.

                                                Keep lying to yourself or start believing your own eyes and ears. Your choice.
                                                While this statement shows strong feelings, it is not accurate based on the facts and understanding of these situations. Here's a point-by-point examination:

                                                Trump's Impeachment: Trump's first impeachment took place because of allegations that he sought help from Ukraine to influence the 2020 U.S. presidential election. The evidence included a transcript of a phone call between Trump and the Ukrainian president. The impeachment was not entirely partisan as Republican Mitt Romney voted for it in the Senate. The costs of impeachment proceedings are part of the democratic checks and balances and while significant, they ensure accountability at the highest levels of office.

                                                51 Former Intelligence Officials: They expressed their opinion in a letter that the Hunter Biden email saga had the hallmarks of a Russian disinformation campaign, not that it definitely was. No conclusive public proof was provided that Hunter Biden's laptop was not part of a disinformation campaign. The statement about 17% of Democrats not voting for Biden is hard to validate without the source of the polling data.

                                                Russian collusion: The Mueller investigation into the Russian interference in the 2016 election did not conclusively establish that the Trump campaign conspired with Russia. However, it did find that the campaign expected to benefit from Russian efforts and there were multiple contacts between Trump Campaign officials and individuals with ties to Russia.

                                                Collusion among various entities: This assertion is a conspiracy theory. Conspiracies of this magnitude would require almost impossible levels of secrecy and coordination. Major institutions like the FBI, intelligence officials, and politicians of all stripes do make mistakes, but to assert they are all lying as part of a coordinated effort to rig an election lacks concrete evidence. As for the media and big tech, while biases exist, they aren't uniform and there's a multitude of views represented within these broad entities.

                                                Critical thinking, access to a range of news sources, and a healthy skepticism are all important for participating in democracy. It is essential to scrutinize the actions of politicians, institutions, and the media, but it is equally vital not to rush to judgments or buy into conspiracy theories without solid evidence.
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                                                • Greget
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 11-01-10
                                                  • 10516

                                                  #1074
                                                  Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                                  Raise whatever they want. All they do is rig voting machines etc. All their donors are idiots. Why donate when the sh## is rigged. Oh wait... they donate to cover up the rig sh##. OH I GET IT!!
                                                  I blame the failed school system
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                                                  • Greget
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 11-01-10
                                                    • 10516

                                                    #1075
                                                    Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                                    There were something like 60 court cases thrown out because they could produce no evidence about the election being rigged.
                                                    On top of that that have been numerous "audits" which came to the same conclusion.
                                                    And Fox was taken to the cleaners by Dominion over lies about their voting machines. Same is going to happen for Smartmatic.
                                                    The good news is trump supporters less likely to vote because they think it's rigged
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                                                    • jackpot269
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 09-24-07
                                                      • 12827

                                                      #1076
                                                      Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                      ok then lets look at a couple other things.

                                                      Impeachment one against Trump: Explain how its possible that every single democrat voted to impeach the president despite having no evidence whatsoever. first time in history that a complete partisan impeachment vote. I am not even talking about the millions it costs the taxpayer. 230 civil employees all conspired to deceive the public without a single shred of evidence in order to gain more political power then and in the future.

                                                      51 former intelligence officials: 51 of the supposedly smartest national security minds with decades of experience all colluded together to sign a letter to purposely mislead and gaslight the pubic in order to rig the upcoming election by calling Hunter Biden's laptop 'Russian disinformation'. Knowing full well that if voters would have been able to see what the Biden's have been doing in secret, they would have lost the election. The polls have it that 17% of democrats would not have voted for Biden in they knew about the story. Never mind the FBI had the laptop for almost an entire year.

                                                      Then we have Russian collusion of course. A fabricated lie designed to rig an election and the following midterms.

                                                      230 democrats + 51 former intelligence officials + the FBI + Obama + Crooked Hilary + the Liberal establishment media + big tech = thousands of people purposely lying in order to rig an election.

                                                      Keep lying to yourself or start believing your own eyes and ears. Your choice.
                                                      Poor, Poor Donnie got into politics and found out that politicians are almost as immoral as he is.


                                                      Why must you always be untruthful?

                                                      Jeff Drew of NJ. Democrat voted no

                                                      Collin Peterson of Minn. Democrat voted no

                                                      Jared Golden of Maine Democrat voted no



                                                      Michigan Rep. Justin Amash was only Republican to vote yes, and he was leaving party to be an Independent.
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                                                      • Greget
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 11-01-10
                                                        • 10516

                                                        #1077
                                                        Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                        That makes no sense as per usual Greget Thunberg. In an eclipse you take a peak, like everyone does, to see how close it is from happening and when it gets close then you put on those special glasses. You would have to be a special kind of moron to believe the fake news narrative that Trump starred at the eclipse or the sun.
                                                        Lol you're supposed to "take a peak" at the sun.. I take it back, dumber than Jibby
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                                                        • DwightShrute
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 01-17-09
                                                          • 102746

                                                          #1078
                                                          Originally posted by Greget
                                                          While this statement shows strong feelings, it is not accurate based on the facts and understanding of these situations. Here's a point-by-point examination:

                                                          Trump's Impeachment: Trump's first impeachment took place because of allegations that he sought help from Ukraine to influence the 2020 U.S. presidential election. The evidence included a transcript of a phone call between Trump and the Ukrainian president. The impeachment was not entirely partisan as Republican Mitt Romney voted for it in the Senate. The costs of impeachment proceedings are part of the democratic checks and balances and while significant, they ensure accountability at the highest levels of office.

                                                          51 Former Intelligence Officials: They expressed their opinion in a letter that the Hunter Biden email saga had the hallmarks of a Russian disinformation campaign, not that it definitely was. No conclusive public proof was provided that Hunter Biden's laptop was not part of a disinformation campaign. The statement about 17% of Democrats not voting for Biden is hard to validate without the source of the polling data.

                                                          Russian collusion: The Mueller investigation into the Russian interference in the 2016 election did not conclusively establish that the Trump campaign conspired with Russia. However, it did find that the campaign expected to benefit from Russian efforts and there were multiple contacts between Trump Campaign officials and individuals with ties to Russia.

                                                          Collusion among various entities: This assertion is a conspiracy theory. Conspiracies of this magnitude would require almost impossible levels of secrecy and coordination. Major institutions like the FBI, intelligence officials, and politicians of all stripes do make mistakes, but to assert they are all lying as part of a coordinated effort to rig an election lacks concrete evidence. As for the media and big tech, while biases exist, they aren't uniform and there's a multitude of views represented within these broad entities.

                                                          Critical thinking, access to a range of news sources, and a healthy skepticism are all important for participating in democracy. It is essential to scrutinize the actions of politicians, institutions, and the media, but it is equally vital not to rush to judgments or buy into conspiracy theories without solid evidence.
                                                          all you did is copied and pasted something you saw online from some Lefty. Romney voted for article one and not guilty for article two. Regardless, the fact remains that it was the first ever impeachment that was completely partisan. 45-0 Democrats in both counts which is what I said initially. In other words, every single democrat voted to impeach despite zero evidence of any wrong doing.

                                                          The rest of you post is just as bad and since they aren't even your words, I won't bother.
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                                                          • DwightShrute
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 01-17-09
                                                            • 102746

                                                            #1079
                                                            Originally posted by jackpot269
                                                            Poor, Poor Donnie got into politics and found out that politicians are almost as immoral as he is.


                                                            Why must you always be untruthful?

                                                            Jeff Drew of NJ. Democrat voted no

                                                            Collin Peterson of Minn. Democrat voted no

                                                            Jared Golden of Maine Democrat voted no



                                                            Michigan Rep. Justin Amash was only Republican to vote yes, and he was leaving party to be an Independent.
                                                            Always? Name once.






                                                            Democratic 45 0 Democratic 45 0
                                                            Republican 1 52 Republican 0 53
                                                            Independent 2 0 Independent 2 0
                                                            48 52 47 53
                                                            Now who's lying?
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                                                            • d2bets
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 08-10-05
                                                              • 39993

                                                              #1080
                                                              Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                              Courts aren't there to decide what you can or cannot say. At least they shouldn't be. The number one thing as a human being on this planet that you should be able to do is speak your mind.

                                                              and once again, who decides what is a lie and misinformation? The government? They are the last people who should.
                                                              So defamation shouldn't be actionably?
                                                              And I should be able to yell FIRE in a crowded theater?
                                                              Just want to see if you want any lines drawn.
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                                                              • d2bets
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 08-10-05
                                                                • 39993

                                                                #1081
                                                                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                White House is a bunch of cocaine drug addicts, transgenders and gay people of color now running the show.

                                                                They are flying rainbow flags in front of the White House also above the American flag. What ever happen to America and normalcy? I can't believe it's gone this far.. : (
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                                                                • DwightShrute
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 01-17-09
                                                                  • 102746

                                                                  #1082
                                                                  Originally posted by d2bets
                                                                  So defamation shouldn't be actionably?
                                                                  And I should be able to yell FIRE in a crowded theater?
                                                                  Just want to see if you want any lines drawn.
                                                                  we can agree on that. The classicyelling fire is a crowded theatre is a good one because you are endangering peoples' lives. Defamation is a little harder and a very broad definition because it can be largely based on opinions and its hard to prove but yes actual defamation can cause actual harm to someone in several different ways, it could invite people to harm that person depending on the accusation. Any kind of speech specifically and deliberately designed to cause harm to someone I can get on board with drawing a line. We aren't animals.
                                                                  Last edited by DwightShrute; 07-15-23, 12:51 PM.
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                                                                  • khicks26
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 09-16-06
                                                                    • 45499

                                                                    #1083
                                                                    The paradox of tolerance is a concept proposed by Karl Popper, a philosopher of science. It states that if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually seized or destroyed by the intolerant12. This means that in order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must be intolerant of intolerance12. The paradox of tolerance challenges the idea that tolerance is always a virtue and that intolerance is always a vice.
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                                                                    • DwightShrute
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 01-17-09
                                                                      • 102746

                                                                      #1084
                                                                      Originally posted by d2bets
                                                                      again, if its possible to have a serious discussion with regards to this. Remember when gays just wanted to get married? I never had a problem with that. They just wanted the same rights as anyone else and to be left alone as anyone else. Great. Let's all agree and move on living with each other. Respecting each other despite our differences.

                                                                      Then, that turned into the shit show it is today. Where men can just wake up and say they are women and there are entire months devoted to gays and the rest of the alphabet people where naked men ride bikes and walk in parades where parents bring small children and schools are allowed to show kids books about gay oral sex. There is no defend this digesting behavior. Decent gay people agree.
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                                                                      • khicks26
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 09-16-06
                                                                        • 45499

                                                                        #1085
                                                                        Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                                        we can agree on that. The classic telling fire is a crowded theatre is a good one because you are endangering peoples' lives. Defamation is a little harder and a very broad definition because it can be largely based on opinions and its hard to prove but yes actual defamation can cause actual harm to someone in several different ways, it could invite people to harm that person depending on the accusation. Any kind of speech specifically and deliberately designed to cause harm to someone I can get on board with drawing a line. We aren't animals.
                                                                        You know who else attacked gay and trans people. Minorities, intellectuals, and people on the opposite side politically with non-stop propaganda, lies and threats of violence?
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