Climate Change

[DwightShrute]

China is building more coal plants but might burn less coal


https://www.sustainabilitybynumbers....na-coal-plants

Maybe. Interesting article. Not sure I buy it but interesting nevertheless.

I live on this planet also and want to to be as clean as possible.

[jackpot269]

I am not surprised. Yes climate change exists. Everyone knows this. I am more of a realist it seems. Yes we should do a better job as stewards of the planet. Should China be building 2 new coal plants every week and nearly 400 addition coal plants in the works? Do you think the pollution China makes only effects China? I am sure you have seem world wind patterns and even ocean p current patterns. How many trillions should a country spend on reducing climate change?

We all know Greenland is melting and island will be under water etc, but the Al Gore's movie and other predictions aren't completely truthful. If one looks into those prediction, they are mostly for hundreds of years from now. Thousands in some cases.


So, my questions has always been the same. What is the solution?

China is building more coal plants but might burn less coal

https://www.sustainabilitybynumbers.com/p/china-coal-plants

[DwightShrute]

So I'm not following you. On one hand you say that man can impact the climate but what? You don't think we should spend money to lesson the impact?

Funny you mentioned $90k. I worked in a nuclear plant where it cost estimated $90k to change a light bulb. We'd hear jokes about it all the time, even some pointing out over spend. Do you know why it cost $90k to change that bulb. Because that light lit up when spent fuel in the disassembly basin went critical, meaning there were enough neutrons to create a chain reaction. The acute radioactive dose one would receive if they walked into that building would immediately kill them. We had a saying, if you walked into that building and the light went off, bend over and kiss your ass goodbye. The light bulb wasn't there for the people already in the basin, They were already dead. It was to warned anyone else from walking in. There were at least 3 safety systems tied to that bulb. Yes, it cost a shit load of money and worth every penny if you walked by it every day.

I am not surprised. Yes climate change exists. Everyone knows this. I am more of a realist it seems. Yes we should do a better job as stewards of the planet. Should China be building 2 new coal plants every week and nearly 400 addition coal plants in the works? Do you think the pollution China makes only effects China? I am sure you have seem world wind patterns and even ocean p current patterns. How many trillions should a country spend on reducing climate change?

We all know Greenland is melting and island will be under water etc, but the Al Gore's movie and other predictions aren't completely truthful. If one looks into those prediction, they are mostly for hundreds of years from now. Thousands in some cases.


So, my questions has always been the same. What is the solution?

[Hareeba!]

Models predict that Earth will warm between 2 and 6 degrees Celsius in the next century.

When global warming has happened at various times in the past two million years, it has taken the planet about 5,000 years to warm 5 degrees.

The predicted rate of warming for the next century is at least 20 times faster.

[captrobey]

When i came to your world i came to save it. I have given you what is needed to save the human race. I have done this back in 1929 in the form of Twizzlers. If you take them and put them all together it creates a machine that eliminates all the pollutions in the Oceans and the Atmosphere. It will save all of you.

But instead you all eat the penetrating things.

[DwightShrute]

3 million people in Houston without power because of a hurricane in early July but climate deniers will say blame Mother Nature. Man has nothing to do with what we breathe, drink or eat either.

climate has always been changing. no one is denying that.

[Mac4Lyfe]

3 million people in Houston without power because of a hurricane in early July but climate deniers will say blame Mother Nature. Man has nothing to do with what we breathe, drink or eat either.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Everything’s About to Get a Hell of a Lot More Expensive Due to Climate Change

ng’s About to Get a Hell of a Lot More Expensive Due to Climate Change
Intensifying hurricanes, floods, and heat waves are wreaking havoc across the US—and on everyone’s bank accounts.

https://www.wired.com/story/everythi...limate-change/

I had a house in Orlando that the homeowners insurance went from $3,000 a year to $16,500 a year. I shit you not. Insurance companies have flew the coop and you can't find insurance companies. I just sold it a couple months ago. The same thing is happening in Texas and California where I have properties as well. These climate events are driving insurance companies out of business. They've had to change their risk numbers because these events are now too common.

[b1slickguy]

[Hareeba!]

June hottest on record, beating 2023 high: EU climate monitor

https://insiderpaper.com/june-hottes...imate-monitor/

[b1slickguy]

The climate scam is the vehicle to make their communist plot a reality. They've been at this for a long time.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/jd8Aj8y1MK">pic.twitter.com/jd8Aj8y1MK</a></p>&mdash; conspiracybot (@conspiracyb0t) <a href="https://twitter.com/conspiracyb0t/status/1809308830578196508?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >July 5, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[jackpot269]

Year	Named Storms	Hurricanes	Major Hurricanes
1851	6	3	1
1852	5	5	1
1853	8	4	2
1854	5	3	1
1855	5	4	1
1856	6	4	2
1857	4	3	0
1858	6	6	0
1859	8	7	1

ATLANTIC HURRICANE NUMBERS BY YEAR (stormfax.com)

[jackpot269]

Are there more hurricanes now than 50 years ago?








No. And a search for answers about climate and hurricane connections reveals little or no evidence that major landfalling hurricanes in the Eastern United States have increased in frequency since data collection started around 1850.
May 16, 2024

Here is 1995 to 2017

1995	19	11	5
1996	13	9	6
1997	8	3	1
1998	14	10	3
1999	12	8	5
2000	15	8	3
2001	15	9	4
2002	12	4	2
2003	16	7	3
2004	15	9	6
2005	28	15	7
2006	10	5	2
2007	15	6	2
2008	16	8	5
2009	9	3	2
2010	19	12	5
2011	19	7	4
2012	19	10	2
2013	14	2	0
2014	8	6	2
2015	11	4	2
2016	15	7	4
2017	17	10	6

ATLANTIC HURRICANE NUMBERS BY YEAR (stormfax.com)

[b1slickguy]

[mcaulay777]

One nut said Climate Change is changing Phoenix causing to be hotter the last few summers.Are you this dumb you live in fng Desert!

[Mac4Lyfe]

i have ever denied climate change. The climate has always been changing and will continue forever.

Does man have an effect on climate? Of course. So does the sun. So do other things. 97% of scientists DO NOT agree that climate change is man-made. That is a false narrative.

Follow the money like always. If you want government $ to study the mating habits of the brown squirrel, you won't get any. If you want government $ for the mating habits of the brown squirrel as it pertains to climate change, you will get millions.

Did you already forget about covid and the billions drug companies made on an experimental drug which didn't prevent anyone from getting covid or passing it on to someone else?

A bag of washers that would cost you $5 at Home Depot, the US military buys for $90,000.

Don't believe everything you are told by the same people that have been caught lying to you countless times. Stop being dumb.

So I'm not following you. On one hand you say that man can impact the climate but what? You don't think we should spend money to lesson the impact?

Funny you mentioned $90k. I worked in a nuclear plant where it cost estimated $90k to change a light bulb. We'd hear jokes about it all the time, even some pointing out over spend. Do you know why it cost $90k to change that bulb. Because that light lit up when spent fuel in the disassembly basin went critical, meaning there were enough neutrons to create a chain reaction. The acute radioactive dose one would receive if they walked into that building would immediately kill them. We had a saying, if you walked into that building and the light went off, bend over and kiss your ass goodbye. The light bulb wasn't there for the people already in the basin, They were already dead. It was to warned anyone else from walking in. There were at least 3 safety systems tied to that bulb. Yes, it cost a shit load of money and worth every penny if you walked by it every day.

[OldBill]

wit hold up TRUMP said WE had the best water and climate control ever

[b1slickguy]

[DwightShrute]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Experts predicted climate change would wipe out tiny islands like the one below.<br><br>Turns out, many are actually GROWING. <a href="https://t.co/9NzFN91imz">pic.twitter.com/9NzFN91imz</a></p>&mdash; End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) <a href="https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1806311939468935318?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >June 27, 2024</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[DwightShrute]

^^ Dwight - stop being dumb. Global warming, climate change is a real thing. Get your head out of your ass. It doesn't mean you have to do anything about it, because you are stuck in your own mind but denying it, even after every fukking person with a brain is telling you otherwise is just not smart.

Let me give you 2 examples of how MAN can impact nature. There's chemicals that are so toxic that a few cups can contaminate an entire water supply. Water pollution is very real. Then you have overfishing which impacts billions of people. So man can very easily impact our greatest resource... Water.

i have ever denied climate change. The climate has always been changing and will continue forever.

Does man have an effect on climate? Of course. So does the sun. So do other things. 97% of scientists DO NOT agree that climate change is man-made. That is a false narrative.

Follow the money like always. If you want government $ to study the mating habits of the brown squirrel, you won't get any. If you want government $ for the mating habits of the brown squirrel as it pertains to climate change, you will get millions.

Did you already forget about covid and the billions drug companies made on an experimental drug which didn't prevent anyone from getting covid or passing it on to someone else?

A bag of washers that would cost you $5 at Home Depot, the US military buys for $90,000.

Don't believe everything you are told by the same people that have been caught lying to you countless times. Stop being dumb.

[Mac4Lyfe]

^^ Dwight - stop being dumb. Global warming, climate change is a real thing. Get your head out of your ass. It doesn't mean you have to do anything about it, because you are stuck in your own mind but denying it, even after every fukking person with a brain is telling you otherwise is just not smart.

Let me give you 2 examples of how MAN can impact nature. There's chemicals that are so toxic that a few cups can contaminate an entire water supply. Water pollution is very real. Then you have overfishing which impacts billions of people. So man can very easily impact our greatest resource... Water.

[DwightShrute]

Everything’s About to Get a Hell of a Lot More Expensive Due to Climate Change

ng’s About to Get a Hell of a Lot More Expensive Due to Climate Change
Intensifying hurricanes, floods, and heat waves are wreaking havoc across the US—and on everyone’s bank accounts.

https://www.wired.com/story/everythi...limate-change/

Are there more hurricanes now than 50 years ago?








No. And a search for answers about climate and hurricane connections reveals little or no evidence that major landfalling hurricanes in the Eastern United States have increased in frequency since data collection started around 1850.
May 16, 2024

[Hareeba!]

Everything’s About to Get a Hell of a Lot More Expensive Due to Climate Change

ng’s About to Get a Hell of a Lot More Expensive Due to Climate Change
Intensifying hurricanes, floods, and heat waves are wreaking havoc across the US—and on everyone’s bank accounts.

https://www.wired.com/story/everythings-about-to-get-a-hell-of-a-lot-more-expensive-due-to-climate-change/

[turbobets]

Nuclear power problem solved.

[Hareeba!]

Agriculture cannot survive at 48C + air temperatures and ongoing severe droughts for very long.

The bread baskets of India have been hitting these temps for nearly 40 days straight.

There is no civilization without Agriculture.




In short .... we're COOKED!

[Mac4Lyfe]

Lets say we clean the air. Then the suns rays will be that more intense.
The sulfur released into the air from one volcanic eruption will be greater than weeks of fossil fuels emitted in New York City.
At any given time, there are approximately over 800 active volcano's taking place around the world.
Allow me to fix my numbers.
There are more than 1500 active volcanoes on Earth. Around 50–70 volcanoes erupt every year.
Volcanoes - British Geological Survey

Slew - cleaning the air has ZERO to do with sun rays. We have an OZONE layer that protects us from harmful UV radiation. Clean air, is clean air and would lead to healthier people. Unfortunately, we've polluted the air and it has direct effect on health. Just by living close to a highway put you at a higher health risk. This is not some new revelation. Living near toxic waste sites, high emission coal, gas plants, etc., is just not good for your health.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1971259/

[Hareeba!]

Mexico just hit a searing 52°C (125.6°F), tying the highest temperature ever recorded in Mexico. The unprecedented run of heat in 2024 continues in Mexico.

[slewfan]

Scientists pour cold water on volcanic glacier melting claims

https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/sci...elting-claims/

Small group of Editorial Australians.. You can believe whoever you want so long as it fits your narrative.

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[BOA12]

And still people are failing to understand the words in such warnings.

They are NOT saying life will end in 5 years.

What they are warning about is reaching the tipping point after which heeding the warnings won't stop the inevitable.

And we're not only talking about human life.
Just about all forms of life will perish.
Already we are seeing crop failures with plenty of once productive farming land now dry and barren.
Millions of people are being forced to migrate as a result.
And we're seeing this happening in Africa, Europe and the Americas leading to increasing tensions.

Done by design.

[Hareeba!]

Most creditable scientist are saying decades not single years.

And still people are failing to understand the words in such warnings.

They are NOT saying life will end in 5 years.

What they are warning about is reaching the tipping point after which heeding the warnings won't stop the inevitable.

And we're not only talking about human life.
Just about all forms of life will perish.
Already we are seeing crop failures with plenty of once productive farming land now dry and barren.
Millions of people are being forced to migrate as a result.
And we're seeing this happening in Africa, Europe and the Americas leading to increasing tensions.

[Hareeba!]

How many volcanos have just become active the last 100 years. I say not many if any. So, most are 100's of thousands of years old. But John Shewchuk

thinks they would just know start having an impact on their surroundings. Smart guy.

Scientists pour cold water on volcanic glacier melting claims

https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/sci...elting-claims/

[slewfan]

Lets say we clean the air. Then the suns rays will be that more intense.

The sulfur released into the air from one volcanic eruption will be greater than weeks of fossil fuels emitted in New York City.

At any given time, there are approximately over 800 active volcano's taking place around the world.

Allow me to fix my numbers.

There are more than 1500 active volcanoes on Earth. Around 50–70 volcanoes erupt every year.


Volcanoes - British Geological Survey

[jackpot269]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Emissions melting Antarctica&#39;s &quot;Doomsday glacier&quot; debunked in one minute.<br><br>Links at <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/O91vN2KQZl">https://t.co/O91vN2KQZl</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/AoH9zeeI7n">https://t.co/AoH9zeeI7n</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/s3c3VsoSqd">pic.twitter.com/s3c3VsoSqd</a></p>&mdash; Steve Milloy (@JunkScience) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/JunkScience/status/1792631380779667940?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >May 20, 2024</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here is the so-called Doomsday Glacier. Guess what happens to a glacier which is surrounded by, and sitting on top of volcanoes? And guess why <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ClimateScam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5 Etfw">#ClimateScam</a> will never admit to these facts. <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/tzQJornZL8">https://t.co/tzQJornZL8</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/VxFhL2E6ZF">pic.twitter.com/VxFhL2E6ZF</a></p>&mdash; John Shewchuk (@_ClimateCraze) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/_ClimateCraze/status/1649819933939777536?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >April 22, 2023</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What a massive scam it all is. <br><br>Don’t Tell the Doomsters and Gloomsters, But Ice Around Antarctica’s Thwaites ‘Doomsday’ Glacier Was Eight Times Thinner Around 8,000 Years Ago - <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/AifKVHWBF8">https://t.co/AifKVHWBF8</a></p>&mdash; Gareth Icke (@garethicke) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/garethicke/status/1664895626407018496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >June 3, 2023</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

How many volcanos have just become active the last 100 years. I say not many if any. So, most are 100's of thousands of years old. But John Shewchuk

thinks they would just know start having an impact on their surroundings. Smart guy.

[jackpot269]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">IT GETS FUNNIER EVERY YEAR!!!������ <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/VPTgUNeeI8">pic.twitter.com/VPTgUNeeI8</a></p>&mdash; il Donaldo Trumpo (@PapiTrumpo) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1804180855847321742?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >June 21, 2024</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Most creditable scientist are saying decades not single years.

[DwightShrute]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">IT GETS FUNNIER EVERY YEAR!!!������ <a href="https://t.co/VPTgUNeeI8">pic.twitter.com/VPTgUNeeI8</a></p>&mdash; il Donaldo Trumpo (@PapiTrumpo) <a href="https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1804180855847321742?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >June 21, 2024</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>