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  • mjsuax13
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    • 03-14-15
    • 24824

    #176
    Originally posted by Kermit
    Back in the 80's when the media was scaring the public with the Ozone layer vanishing, everyone knew the Phoenix was hot, that is kind of their thing. how much hotter is it now than it was 40 years ago?
    This isn’t really that surprising for Arizona. Huge population/transplant boom trends the same as this chart and also many transplants from NE/Midwest/cooler climates that don’t have a clue on how to handle the heat. I have a home in Scottsdale and lived there full time for 10+ years. I never understood the people that would climb camelback or echo canyon in the summer with no water, all die or need to be rescued. They now charge them for the rescue! Same thing for Tucson and parts of Grand Canyon. Really Flagstaff is the spot for the summer.
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    • Hareeba!
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 07-01-06
      • 36793

      #177
      Originally posted by Kermit
      I am not clicking on accepting links and other bullshit.

      Just post what the average temp in Phoenix was in 1983 and what is it in 2023.
      You want an average temp from 1983? Well go do your own research.
      The data I provided a link to help you goes back to only 1985. But you're too f'ing lazy to even look at that!
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      • JIBBBY
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 12-10-09
        • 83691

        #178
        Climate change happens in nature. Ever heard of ice ages. Humans may be speeding it up a tiny bit but it's inevitable even if humans weren't on this planet. China and India are the main polluters on this planet. Nuke em both! ; )
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        • slewfan
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 10-01-15
          • 15756

          #179
          Originally posted by TheGoldenGoose
          @ slew

          I think you miss the point here. Yes, it's impossible to prove that Climate Warming is man-made. But you cannot argue that Climate Warming is not presently occuring. THE POINT IS... What could be, what should be, done???
          It may be a naturally occurring event. I don't have a solution and we will not be around in a few million years to find out. If man is going to disappear, it will be by his own hand. Germs, Nuclear, AI. Who knows.
          Here's an interesting article if you will. The planet was here before us and will be here after us.


          Rampant Groundwater Pumping Has Changed the Tilt of ...


          Scientific Americanhttps://www.scientificamerican.com › article › rampant...













          Jun 21, 2023 — The Earth has lost enough groundwater to thirsty humans to measurably tilt the planet's axis of rotation. The net water lost from ...
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          • jackpot269
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 09-24-07
            • 12820

            #180
            Originally posted by JIBBBY
            Climate change happens in nature. Ever heard of ice ages. Humans may be speeding it up a tiny bit but it's inevitable even if humans weren't on this planet. China and India are the main polluters on this planet. Nuke em both! ; )
            I'm on-board nuke em.

            So China and India are the biggest polluters on earth, are you mad because the USA is not #1.

            They are also the biggest in population, you want to be #1 there too, you could take in every single Mexican and still be #3.

            China is #1 worldwide in manufacturing. With Median income of about $6000. USA is #2 with income of about $46,000

            You probably want us to be #1 in manufacturing to and only make $6000 a year.

            My point is, don't aspire to be like China, let's be great and above and better in every way.

            Why would you want to lower our standards to China's or India for that matter.

            We are better we should stay that way. Never play down to the competition.

            Everybody has a right to their opinion we differ in this area. I think USA needs to always be better in areas that show we are better.
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            • JIBBBY
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 12-10-09
              • 83691

              #181
              Originally posted by jackpot269
              I'm on-board nuke em.

              So China and India are the biggest polluters on earth, are you mad because the USA is not #1.

              They are also the biggest in population, you want to be #1 there too, you could take in every single Mexican and still be #3.

              China is #1 worldwide in manufacturing. With Median income of about $6000. USA is #2 with income of about $46,000

              You probably want us to be #1 in manufacturing to and only make $6000 a year.

              My point is, don't aspire to be like China, let's be great and above and better in every way.

              Why would you want to lower our standards to China's or India for that matter.

              We are better we should stay that way. Never play down to the competition.

              Everybody has a right to their opinion we differ in this area. I think USA needs to always be better in areas that show we are better.
              America can't get much cleaner now. It's always gonna be China and India polluting. Brazil and other 3rd world Countries as well.

              I'm more worried about our oceans being polluted by humans more then climate change. I like eating FISH!
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              • jackpot269
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 09-24-07
                • 12820

                #182
                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                America can't get much cleaner now. It's always gonna be China and India polluting. Brazil and other 3rd world Countries as well.

                I'm more worried about our oceans being polluted by humans more then climate change. I like eating FISH!
                Yes, I agree that pollution, especially in the oceans is big problem, also in rivers, lakes, and streams.
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                • mcaulay777
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-13-10
                  • 1767

                  #183
                  I lived In Phoenix from 1995-2004 i loved the heat i know there are thousands of media now and social media since then and no one seem to have said anything in the late 90s they would say the summer is coming here is how to stay sfae and cool, same new story every year.I loved it, desert heat is easier to handle then here in North Central iowa.We have been lucky our first heat wave is this week.In Phoenix i would play golf and walk in the late morning.Here in Iowa i walk to the mail box and evry bit of clothing sticks too you because you are so sweaty would never think about playing golf in the summer.In Phoenix i would carry a sweater around because the supermarket ect was freezing with AC.Sorry for long post just a little reminiscing.
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                  • Hareeba!
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 07-01-06
                    • 36793

                    #184
                    Originally Posted by JIBBBY
                    Climate change happens in nature. Ever heard of ice ages. Humans may be speeding it up a tiny bit but it's inevitable even if humans weren't on this planet. China and India are the main polluters on this planet. Nuke em both! ; )

                    Most Polluting Countries Per Capita in 2022

                    • Qatar. Qatar is the world's greatest CO2 emitter per capita, with 37,05 tonnes of carbon dioxide produced by a population of little over 2 million people. ...
                    • Kuwait. ...
                    • Saudi Arabia. ...
                    • Canada. ...
                    • The United States of America. ...
                    • Germany. ...
                    • China. ...
                    • Spain.

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                    • JIBBBY
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 12-10-09
                      • 83691

                      #185
                      Originally posted by Hareeba!
                      Originally Posted by JIBBBY
                      Climate change happens in nature. Ever heard of ice ages. Humans may be speeding it up a tiny bit but it's inevitable even if humans weren't on this planet. China and India are the main polluters on this planet. Nuke em both! ; )

                      Most Polluting Countries Per Capita in 2022

                      • Qatar. Qatar is the world's greatest CO2 emitter per capita, with 37,05 tonnes of carbon dioxide produced by a population of little over 2 million people. ...
                      • Kuwait. ...
                      • Saudi Arabia. ...
                      • Canada. ...
                      • The United States of America. ...
                      • Germany. ...
                      • China. ...
                      • Spain.

                      I always thought China and India were per population. I find it very hard to believe Qatar pollutes more then China.
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                      • DwightShrute
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-17-09
                        • 102361

                        #186
                        <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When Climate change policy insists on consensus…<br>“Scientists become regarded as just another lobbying group…” <br>- Dr. Judith Curry <a href="https://t.co/NdshRcILaE">https://t.co/NdshRcILaE</a></p>&mdash; Rob Schneider (@RobSchneider) <a href="https://twitter.com/RobSchneider/status/1683073553757790208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >July 23, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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                        • Thor4140
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 02-09-08
                          • 22296

                          #187
                          Originally posted by Greget
                          Anytime slew or dum get asked to provide evidence of their claims, they tuck tail and run.

                          this still happening around here? has Slew apologized to that ten year old he shit on last year?
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                          • JIBBBY
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 12-10-09
                            • 83691

                            #188
                            Relax it will all be over soon!

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                            • jackpot269
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 09-24-07
                              • 12820

                              #189
                              Originally posted by DwightShrute
                              <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When Climate change policy insists on consensus…<br>“Scientists become regarded as just another lobbying group…” <br>- Dr. Judith Curry <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/NdshRcILaE">https://t.co/NdshRcILaE</a></p>&mdash; Rob Schneider (@RobSchneider) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/RobSchneider/status/1683073553757790208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >July 23, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
                              She is in the minority in her field.
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                              • DwightShrute
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 01-17-09
                                • 102361

                                #190
                                Originally posted by jackpot269
                                She is in the minority in her field.
                                is she wrong though?
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                                • Hareeba!
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 07-01-06
                                  • 36793

                                  #191
                                  Antarctic sea ice levels dive in 'five-sigma event', as experts flag worsening consequences for planet

                                  Physical oceanographer Edward Doddridge has been communicating with scientists and the community about the drastic changes happening around Antarctica.
                                  He said vast regions of the Antarctic coastline were ice free for the first time in the observational record.
                                  "To say unprecedented isn't strong enough," Dr Doddridge said.
                                  "For those of you who are interested in statistics, this is a five-sigma event. So it's five standard deviations beyond the mean. Which means that if nothing had changed, we'd expect to see a winter like this about once every 7.5 million years.

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                                  • Greget
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 11-01-10
                                    • 10516

                                    #192
                                    Originally posted by Thor4140
                                    this still happening around here? has Slew apologized to that ten year old he shit on last year?
                                    Nope, Slew a real piece of shit, still wonder why they haven't banned him for being a pedo
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                                    • Greget
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 11-01-10
                                      • 10516

                                      #193
                                      Nope, nothing to see here... Highschool drop out Duhhwit and slewtard are sure of it



                                      https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart...y%20to%20blame.
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                                      • JIBBBY
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 12-10-09
                                        • 83691

                                        #194
                                        ^ Red algae tide has nothing to do with climate change when seeing dead fish like that. That's part of nature.
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                                        • jackpot269
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 09-24-07
                                          • 12820

                                          #195
                                          Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                          is she wrong though?
                                          The evidence says she is.
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                                          • DwightShrute
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 01-17-09
                                            • 102361

                                            #196
                                            Originally posted by jackpot269
                                            The evidence says she is.
                                            but does it?

                                            Evidence also showed that a low fat diet was the way to go. Eggs were bad. So what happened? Everything became low fat modified sugar saturated garbage. Evidence presented to those in power led them to approve this message. Look at America 40 year later.

                                            Evidence had to be shown how many times to the FDA to finally approve aspartame? I think they rejected it 3 or 4 times because they approved it. Google 'aspartame' today and see what they are saying.

                                            Don't forget that of the dozens and dozens of drugs rejected by the FDA because there was evidence they were harmful to humans, were at one time all approved by the FDA because evidence said they were safe.
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                                            • jackpot269
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 09-24-07
                                              • 12820

                                              #197
                                              Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                              but does it?

                                              Evidence also showed that a low fat diet was the way to go. Eggs were bad. So what happened? Everything became low fat modified sugar saturated garbage. Evidence presented to those in power led them to approve this message. Look at America 40 year later.

                                              Evidence had to be shown how many times to the FDA to finally approve aspartame? I think they rejected it 3 or 4 times because they approved it. Google 'aspartame' today and see what they are saying.

                                              Don't forget that of the dozens and dozens of drugs rejected by the FDA because there was evidence they were harmful to humans, were at one time all approved by the FDA because evidence said they were safe.
                                              OK so no evidence is ever credible, I don't know what to say about that. I guess everything in life is just an opinion.
                                              I can live with that if everyone else can.

                                              I can put you on a low-fat diet and you will lose weight if you follow it.

                                              I Only use sugar not that other stuff
                                              Last edited by jackpot269; 07-24-23, 12:54 PM.
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                                              • Hareeba!
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 07-01-06
                                                • 36793

                                                #198
                                                Palermo in Sicily has just obliterated its all-time heat record by over 2°C. The previous record was +44.8°C in August 1999.

                                                The observatory has weather data dating back to 1791. This is a very significant record to fall by such an enormous margin.

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                                                • b1slickguy
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 11-24-11
                                                  • 11959

                                                  #199
                                                  <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AUSTRALIA- This is footage from a discarded wind farm where turbines are left to rot on the ground, leaching toxicity.<br><br>It isn’t economically viable to recycle them, neither are solar panels, so they are er…discarded. There’s nothing ‘renewable about it!<br><br>Follow the money, not… <a href="https://t.co/mIdBiQRNm2">pic.twitter.com/mIdBiQRNm2</a></p>&mdash; Bernie&#39;s Tweets (@BernieSpofforth) <a href="https://twitter.com/BernieSpofforth/status/1683461999001255938?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >July 24, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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                                                  • DwightShrute
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 01-17-09
                                                    • 102361

                                                    #200
                                                    Originally posted by b1slickguy
                                                    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AUSTRALIA- This is footage from a discarded wind farm where turbines are left to rot on the ground, leaching toxicity.<br><br>It isn’t economically viable to recycle them, neither are solar panels, so they are er…discarded. There’s nothing ‘renewable about it!<br><br>Follow the money, not… <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/mIdBiQRNm2">pic.twitter.com/mIdBiQRNm2</a></p>&mdash; Bernie&#39;s Tweets (@BernieSpofforth) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/BernieSpofforth/status/1683461999001255938?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >July 24, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
                                                    where are these guys?

                                                    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING NEWS �� <br>Climate change has been accelerated after oil protestors in Germany forcing cars to burn even more fuel waiting on them <br><br> <a href="https://t.co/yJOreL9MKy">pic.twitter.com/yJOreL9MKy</a></p>&mdash; Echo Musket (@SlickQuote) <a href="https://twitter.com/SlickQuote/status/1680607564596236289?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >July 16, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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                                                    • b1slickguy
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 11-24-11
                                                      • 11959

                                                      #201
                                                      Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                      where are these guys?

                                                      <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING NEWS �� <br>Climate change has been accelerated after oil protestors in Germany forcing cars to burn even more fuel waiting on them <br><br> <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/yJOreL9MKy">pic.twitter.com/yJOreL9MKy</a></p>&mdash; Echo Musket (@SlickQuote) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/SlickQuote/status/1680607564596236289?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >July 16, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

                                                      You'd think they'd be on top of all of things that are harming the environment. Plus being lied to about how this crap is recyclable and the wasted money. The hoax cult follows The Science™ instead of the data and the dollars.
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                                                      • b1slickguy
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 11-24-11
                                                        • 11959

                                                        #202
                                                        <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The tables turned and Just Stop Oil’s banquet got disrupted by undercover journalists.<br><br>The balloons had releasing alarms attached to them, which caused a delay. Oh no, poor guys getting a taste of their own medicine. �� <a href="https://t.co/XUtoofBZno">pic.twitter.com/XUtoofBZno</a></p>&mdash; Chris Rose (@ArchRose90) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArchRose90/status/1683444744536440834?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >July 24, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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                                                        • mjsuax13
                                                          Moderator
                                                          • 03-14-15
                                                          • 24824

                                                          #203
                                                          Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                          where are these guys?

                                                          <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING NEWS �� <br>Climate change has been accelerated after oil protestors in Germany forcing cars to burn even more fuel waiting on them <br><br> <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/yJOreL9MKy">pic.twitter.com/yJOreL9MKy</a></p>&mdash; Echo Musket (@SlickQuote) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/SlickQuote/status/1680607564596236289?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >July 16, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
                                                          Woah. The blonde was not bullshitting
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                                                          • b1slickguy
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 11-24-11
                                                            • 11959

                                                            #204
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                                                            • Kermit
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 09-27-10
                                                              • 32555

                                                              #205
                                                              Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                                              Palermo in Sicily has just obliterated its all-time heat record by over 2°C. The previous record was +44.8°C in August 1999.

                                                              The observatory has weather data dating back to 1791. This is a very significant record to fall by such an enormous margin.

                                                              Wait, it took 24 years to beat the record? Shouldn't it have been beaten in 2000? or even in 2010?

                                                              Why was it so hot in 1999?
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                                                              • Kermit
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 09-27-10
                                                                • 32555

                                                                #206
                                                                Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                                                You want an average temp from 1983? Well go do your own research.
                                                                The data I provided a link to help you goes back to only 1985. But you're too f'ing lazy to even look at that!
                                                                Thanks for nothing.
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                                                                • Kermit
                                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                  • 09-27-10
                                                                  • 32555

                                                                  #207
                                                                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                  I always thought China and India were per population. I find it very hard to believe Qatar pollutes more then China.
                                                                  They don't. He posted a whole lot of bullshit. The Left likes to cherrypick numbers in order to prove their stupid points.
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                                                                  • Hareeba!
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 07-01-06
                                                                    • 36793

                                                                    #208
                                                                    Originally posted by Kermit
                                                                    They don't. He posted a whole lot of bullshit. The Left likes to cherrypick numbers in order to prove their stupid points.
                                                                    I didn't cherrypick anything.
                                                                    It was the table I found. Why don't you put yourself out for a change and find the data for yourself.
                                                                    It was also the year leading into Qatar hosting the FIFA World Cup and perhaps that contributed to their figure.
                                                                    But regardless of Qatar it shows China and India were not the largest polluters.
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                                                                    • Hareeba!
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 07-01-06
                                                                      • 36793

                                                                      #209
                                                                      Originally posted by Kermit
                                                                      Wait, it took 24 years to beat the record? Shouldn't it have been beaten in 2000? or even in 2010?

                                                                      Why was it so hot in 1999?
                                                                      I see you are (of course) totally missing the point.

                                                                      Never before has there been such a torrent of daily records being set around the world.

                                                                      But you continue (just like your dumbass cult leader) to label it nothing but a hoax.
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                                                                      • TheMoneyShot
                                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                        • 02-14-07
                                                                        • 28672

                                                                        #210
                                                                        It's called Middle of Summer Hareeb!! lol It gets HOT in the Summer lol What is wrong with this guy?

                                                                        Nothing to see here. IT GETS HOT!!! duh
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