Climate Change

**DwightShrute** · 07-08-24, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by jackpot269

China is building more coal plants but might burn less coal

https://www.sustainabilitybynumbers....na-coal-plants

Maybe. Interesting article. Not sure I buy it but interesting nevertheless.

I live on this planet also and want to to be as clean as possible.

**Mac4Lyfe** · 07-09-24, 11:06 AM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

So, my questions has always been the same. What is the solution?

I don't think there's one immediate solution that will solve every problem. But it comes from awareness, challenging and maybe punishing the worst offenders (the US being one of them). Freon R-22 HCFC for example was known to destroy the ozone layer, so we instilled laws to reduce it's use. Same for some pesticides that easily contaminated our water supply. Make the price prohibitive and folks will use something else.

China is a great example. They're air pollution is so bad it kills 2 million people there a year. Building more coal plants is easy in a country that can ignore its people. They also pretty much are forced to use coal to maintain energy independence.

But to answer your question. Nuclear energy used for electricity and to make green hydrogen is where the world will eventually go. We will be forced to go in that direction. It'll be long after you and I are gone.

**DwightShrute** · 07-09-24, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

I don't think there's one immediate solution that will solve every problem. But it comes from awareness, challenging and maybe punishing the worst offenders (the US being one of them). Freon R-22 HCFC for example was known to destroy the ozone layer, so we instilled laws to reduce it's use. Same for some pesticides that easily contaminated our water supply. Make the price prohibitive and folks will use something else.

China is a great example. They're air pollution is so bad it kills 2 million people there a year. Building more coal plants is easy in a country that can ignore its people. They also pretty much are forced to use coal to maintain energy independence.

But to answer your question. Nuclear energy used for electricity and to make green hydrogen is where the world will eventually go. We will be forced to go in that direction. It'll be long after you and I are gone.

seems like the way to go.

seems inevitable. especially with the EV's.

**b1slickguy** · 07-11-24, 09:30 AM

**Mac4Lyfe** · 07-11-24, 12:34 PM

Originally posted by b1slickguy

What's your point? We all are responsible for the climate. The US wouldn't be a world power if we didn't use up natural resources. We can't go back to the stone age but can do our best to reduce our impact. We need a lot of people doing a little. It's not about blaming anyone. It's about being open and honest. But you first need to believe there's a problem before you are willing to do anything about it. It doesn't look like you think there's a problem. So carry on.

**b1slickguy** · 07-11-24, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

What's your point? We all are responsible for the climate. The US wouldn't be a world power if we didn't use up natural resources. We can't go back to the stone age but can do our best to reduce our impact. We need a lot of people doing a little. It's not about blaming anyone. It's about being open and honest. But you first need to believe there's a problem before you are willing to do anything about it. It doesn't look like you think there's a problem. So carry on.

They used Zoom calls during the pandemic. If they were really all about "saving the planet" they would continue to do this instead of proving their true hypocrisy by flying all over the world in their private jets. They just want to have their cake and eat yours, too.

**Mac4Lyfe** · 07-11-24, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by b1slickguy

They used Zoom calls during the pandemic. If they were really all about "saving the planet" they would continue to do this instead of proving their true hypocrisy by flying all over the world in their private jets. They just want to have their cake and eat yours, too.

What's wrong with flying all over the world? You don't travel? Should we go by horse and buggy? WE ALL USE ENERGY. It has increased/bettered our standard of living. We all produce carbon. I don't think it's hypocritical to talk about reducing carbon even if we all have to use it. Like I said, the US is one of the worse offenders. Technology hopefully can solve the issue. We first must recognize what we do and find better ways to do it. I've worked in coal plants. It's dirty but much better than sitting at home in the dark. The US has to have energy diversity. You don't want just one source of energy. But we also want energy that is clean, affordable and won't impact our citizens health in the long term. There's no easy solutions and one solution can't be applied to every one. Too many variables.

**captrobey** · 07-11-24, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

What's your point? We all are responsible for the climate. The US wouldn't be a world power if we didn't use up natural resources. We can't go back to the stone age but can do our best to reduce our impact. We need a lot of people doing a little. It's not about blaming anyone. It's about being open and honest. But you first need to believe there's a problem before you are willing to do anything about it. It doesn't look like you think there's a problem. So carry on.

The problem is these are all Taylor Swifts planes.

**Hareeba!** · 07-23-24, 02:53 AM

A new daily global mean temperature record, 17.09°C, was set two days ago on 21 July, according to @CopernicusECMWF
ERA5 reanalysis.

**Hareeba!** · 07-29-24, 10:01 PM

nearly 4 million square kilometres below the 1981-2010 average...

**Hareeba!** · 07-30-24, 03:47 AM

The end is nigh.

For insects, bats, protest, the planet…

The end is nigh. For insects, bats, protest, the planet… | Stewart Lee

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jul/28/the-end-is-nigh-for-insects-bats-protest-the-planet?CMP=share_btn_url

Our response to global heating and the decimation of animal species is to marginalise the Green party and lock up protesters

**Hareeba!** · 08-02-24, 04:24 AM

The current retreat of glaciers in the tropical Andes is unprecedented in the last 11,700 years!
Ecosystems and communities that rely on glaciers for freshwater will be impacted even at the lowest global warming targets of 1.5°C or below.

Just a moment...

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adg7546

**slewfan** · 08-05-24, 09:23 AM

In 2009 Australia experienced it's worst heat wave ever recorded. Has not happened since.

In 2009, and ice storm ravaged 7 states in south central U.S. Has not happened since.

I wonder if the Globe has it's own agenda.?. Maybe.?.

**Hareeba!** · 08-15-24, 06:39 PM

How does today’s extreme heat compare with Earth’s past climate?

During a period called the Palaeocene-Eocene thermal maximum, which occurred about 55m years ago, temperatures jumped by at least 5C as carbon dioxide flooded into the atmosphere – but this change unfolded over thousands of years. By contrast, the modern world has heated up by more than 1C in little more than a century.

“A hundred years or so is less than a blink of an eye in Earth’s history,” said Lina Pérez-Angel, a palaeoclimatologist at Brown University. “There’s nothing in Earth’s history that shows a change happening this quickly, it’s just so, so fast.

Usually these changes take a long time, things can adapt. Right now the pace of change is one of the biggest concerns we have.”

How does today’s extreme heat compare with Earth’s past climate?

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/aug/14/how-does-today-extreme-heat-compare-with-earth-past-climate?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Viewed through a long enough lens, our climate can seem unremarkable – but for humans it is unprecedented

**Hareeba!** · 08-20-24, 05:28 AM

Nothing to see here.

Just a record-breaking winter heat build up in Central Australia as max temps in places like Alice Springs rise to within a degree of the SUMMER average!

**b1slickguy** · 08-20-24, 12:26 PM

**ByeShea** · 08-20-24, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by jackpot269

China is building more coal plants but might burn less coal

https://www.sustainabilitybynumbers....na-coal-plants

China building more whorehouses yet assuring us less prostitution. Thank you China.

**Hareeba!** · 08-20-24, 02:40 PM

Originally posted by b1slickguy

Sure.
And we continue to cut them down all around the world.

**Hareeba!** · 08-25-24, 05:53 PM

Something is not right with the world’s oceans. They are warming up at an alarming rate, with disastrous consequences for marine life – and humanity.

How climate change has pushed our oceans to the brink of catastrophe

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg26335040-100-how-climate-change-has-pushed-our-oceans-to-the-brink-of-catastrophe/?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_campaign=echobox&utm_medium=social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1724568548

For decades, the oceans have absorbed much of the excess heat caused by greenhouse gases. The latest observations suggest they are reaching their limits, so how worried should we be?

**Hareeba!** · 08-27-24, 03:14 AM

All the climate scientists on social media are freaking out and in near panic.

All MSM are the opposite.

The media are committing a new, as yet undefined, form of negligence so vast that it is a crime against humanity.

https://x.com/i/status/1827834347183026627

**Hareeba!** · 08-27-24, 02:55 PM

**slewfan** · 08-27-24, 05:55 PM

The climate changed 100 years ago to the highest temperature in 100 years prior to then.

Then some Democrat found a way to make a billion dollars in the modern era. Scaring people into believing the Globe will perish unless they paid much of their money to them. So whilst they fly their private Jets: with a promise to ''change the planet change''..

Send me money, I will send you God...

Laughing all the way to the Bank.

**astrobloke** · 08-27-24, 09:15 PM

you can fools the people most of the time. The govt big scams were the vaccine , 9/11 and climate change. You can see the effects. As most people get up in the morning and cannot not even tie their shoelaces. Low IQ sheep that cannot think for themselves. We live in a sad sad world.

**ByeShea** · 08-28-24, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by Hareeba!

Something is not right with the world’s oceans. They are warming up at an alarming rate, with disastrous consequences for marine life – and humanity.

How climate change has pushed our oceans to the brink of catastrophe

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg26335040-100-how-climate-change-has-pushed-our-oceans-to-the-brink-of-catastrophe/?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_campaign=echobox&utm_medium=social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1724568548

For decades, the oceans have absorbed much of the excess heat caused by greenhouse gases. The latest observations suggest they are reaching their limits, so how worried should we be?

Update your records, Hareeba. Or do we pretend this is not happening?

The Atlantic Is Cooling at a Mysteriously Fast Rate After Record Warmth

**Hareeba!** · 08-29-24, 02:41 AM

Problem is that after a few years, most people normalize extreme climate as normal
They also normalize disappearance of world Bees insects birds wildlife, marine life, forests wetlands and their replacement with a sterile barren lifeless landscape as normal

**Hareeba!** · 09-06-24, 04:41 AM

**Hareeba!** · 09-10-24, 03:29 AM

**Hareeba!** · 09-10-24, 05:29 AM

The Antarctic region underwent an abrupt transformation in 2023 as the sea ice cover surrounding the continent crashed for six months straight. In winter, it covered about 1.6m sq km less than the long-term average – an area roughly the size of Britain, France, Germany and Spain combined.

Scientists at the Australian Antarctic Program Partnership said the latest data showed this had been repeated in 2024. On 7 September the amount of frozen ocean was less than on the same date last year.

‘Two incredible extreme events’: Antarctic sea ice on cusp of record winter low for second year running

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/sep/10/two-incredible-extreme-events-antarctic-sea-ice-on-cusp-of-record-winter-low-for-second-year-running?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Last year Antarctica’s sea ice was 1.6m sq km below average – the size of Britain, France, Germany and Spain combined. This week it had even less than that

**Hareeba!** · 09-12-24, 08:23 PM

Earth had its hottest August in 175-year of record keeping.

Summer 2024 was Northern Hemisphere’s warmest on record.

Life as we know it on Earth is cooked thanks to the stupidity of the human race.

Sad.

**Mac4Lyfe** · 09-12-24, 08:47 PM

Originally posted by Hareeba!

Earth had its hottest August in 175-year of record keeping.Summer 2024 was Northern Hemisphere’s warmest on record.Life as we know it on Earth is cooked thanks to the stupidity of the human race.Sad.

Home owners insurance are out the roof in Florida. A lot of other states are right behind them. It’s not sustainable. We’ll have to find alternatives to what we’re doing now. It’s inevitable