Trump Scores 400,000 Dead Americans On His Way Out The Door

[WillyBoy]

The Trump-Virus has done it all!!! The Orange Blimp’s long-standing policy of ignoring Covid 19 has kept America at the top of the world for a full year in number of infections and deaths. Trump’s subline incompetence will be sorely missed by the Coronavirus. However, keeping the pandemic fire burning, is an utter moron like Il Ducey, governor of Arizona, who thinks his state is “on the right track” as it now tops the entire world in rate of infections per 100,000 people.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/01/arizona-now-has-the-highest-covid-infection-rate-in-the-entire-world/

Interesting to contrast Ducey’s honest idiocy, to the Liar King – Ron DeSantis, governor of Florida – who, seeing how badly his state was doing in response to the pandemic, took personal charge of all Covid 19 reporting back in August, and – well - his state numbers still look shitty, but are very likely worse.

[hehfest]

That's true man. 5G is more deadly than even I thought. But, since you have so much time........how about you pull up the following stats:
2018-2019-2020 deaths by heart attack, pneumonia, flu, and cancer deaths. Post it here. Let's see if the number dropped significantly for the aforementioned in 2020.

Bring that to the table, and if the deaths are the same or higher for all four categories; I would be shocked. Common, bring some other data than just posting a chart. Let's see if those other deaths are still equated. Common. Common.

[WillyBoy]

That's true man. 5G is more deadly than even I thought. But, since you have so much time........how about you pull up the following stats:
2018-2019-2020 deaths by heart attack, pneumonia, flu, and cancer deaths. Post it here. Let's see if the number dropped significantly for the aforementioned in 2020.

Bring that to the table, and if the deaths are the same or higher for all four categories; I would be shocked. Common, bring some other data than just posting a chart. Let's see if those other deaths are still equated. Common. Common.

I don’t track anything but Covid 19 mortality, but just googling a few diseases I found for 2019 there were 47k American dead from pneumonia (50k is about the average death toll), while in 2020 there 313k dead, an increase obviously due to Covid 19. Flu deaths have, until 2020, averaged 60k per year, but now stand at over 400k for the past year. (You do realize that Covid 19 is the flu, right? And that pneumonia is symptomatic of the Coronavirus.) If you have a point about cancer, it’s lost on me, but In 2019, 606,880 Americans died of cancer, and although the final total for 2020 is not yet in, 606,520 have died of cancer. You can look into heart attacks yourself, but do these numbers help your agenda of denial?

[hehfest]

I don’t track anything but Covid 19 mortality, but just googling a few diseases I found for 2019 there were 47k American dead from pneumonia (50k is about the average death toll), while in 2020 there 313k dead, an increase obviously due to Covid 19. Flu deaths have, until 2020, averaged 60k per year, but now stand at over 400k for the past year. (You do realize that Covid 19 is the flu, right? And that pneumonia is symptomatic of the Coronavirus.) If you have a point about cancer, it’s lost on me, but In 2019, 606,880 Americans died of cancer, and although the final total for 2020 is not yet in, 606,520 have died of cancer. You can look into heart attacks yourself, but do these numbers help your agenda of denial?

Preliminary estimates*	Estimate	95% UI	Estimate	95% UI	Estimate	95% UI	Estimate	95% UI
2017-2018*	45,000,000	(39,000,000 – 58,000,000)	21,000,000	(18,000,000 – 27,000,000)	810,000	(620,000 – 1,400,000)	61,000	(46,000 – 95,000)
2018-2019*	36,000,000	(31,000,000 – 45,000,000)	17,000,000	(14,000,000 – 21,000,000)	490,000	(390,000 – 770,000)	34,000	(26,000 – 53,000)
2019-2020*	38,000,000	(34,000,000 – 47,000,000)	18,000,000	(15,000,000 – 22,000,000)	400,000	(350,000 – 500,000)	22,000	(18,000 – 29,000)

That's from the CDC. Center for Disease Control. It appears the flu deaths dropped each year. Where are your numbers from? The far right of 22,000 (is the estimated deaths column).

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/past-seasons.html

[WillyBoy]

My googled numbers were from the CDC as well, and I appreciate your work - but what's your point? Until 2020 flu deaths were diminishing, but there were 400k state reported flu deaths in 2020, an increase due to Covid-19. Numbers from my tables come from Worldometers and Johns Hopkins, which collected their numbers from from state public health officials and hospitals. As CDC's numbers are now only reported thru the politically (ie. Trump) controlled Department of Health and Human Services, until the CDC becomes independent again, take what's reported by the CDC with a grain of salt.

ps. You realize that in the table you posted the time frame is January to January right?

[Foxx]

(You do realize that Covid 19 is the flu, right?

Well, that's not factually correct.

[slewfan]

This is the perfect example of how the Government and it’s agencies fast talk and double talk. If you lean a certain way politically, you divest the information to this leaning.

It has been estimated in some states that the actual COVID deaths were 40% overinflated.

You can take any one article from a Gov’t agency, let 1000 people read it, and will probably have 200 different interpretations.. It’s all bullshat and it’s what politicians do.

Without term limits for these dinosaurs, things will continue to deteriorate..

[HockeyRocks]

"When you have 15 people and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero. Words of a fukking ignorant fool..
Donald Trump...2-28-2020.