Johns Hopkins study reveals Covid-19 has little effect in death toll...

jjgold · 12-01-20, 03:01 PM

Good report

Ghenghis Kahn · 12-01-20, 03:08 PM

The fukked up thing is JHU deleted the article saying it's misinformation.

Well numbers don't lie and Johns Hopkins was part of Event 201.

They don't want the truth out and I'm sure people that published the article will be reprimanded.

gauchojake · 12-01-20, 03:36 PM

Event 202 is this thread heading straight for the

SALLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

King Mayan · 12-01-20, 03:46 PM

Damn I guess the nurse I know in a “dirty”ICU is bullshitting me.

pologq · 12-01-20, 03:54 PM

the asses in ghenghis's avatar treat covid. fauci agrees.

gauchojake · 12-01-20, 04:01 PM

The emperor has no clothes sheeple

[color=rgba(51, 51, 51, 0.7)]after the news-letter published this article on nov. 22, it was brought to our attention that our coverage of genevieve briand’s presentation “covid-19 deaths: A look at u.s. Data” has been used to support dangerous inaccuracies that minimize the impact of the pandemic.[/color]

we decided on nov. 26 to retract this article to stop the spread of misinformation, as we explained on social media. However, it is our responsibility as journalists to provide a historical record. We have chosen to take down the article from our website, but it is available here as a pdf.
in accordance with our standards for transparency, we are sharing with our readers how we came to this decision. The news-letter is an editorially and financially independent, student-run publication. Our articles and content are not endorsed by the university or the school of medicine, and our decision to retract this article was made independently.
briand’s study should not be used exclusively in understanding the impact of covid-19, but should be taken in context with the countless other data published by hopkins, the world health organization and the centers for disease control and prevention (cdc).
as assistant director for the master’s in applied economics program at hopkins, briand is neither a medical professional nor a disease researcher. At her talk, she herself stated that more research and data are needed to understand the effects of covid-19 in the u.s.
briand was quoted in the article as saying, “all of this points to no evidence that covid-19 created any excess deaths. Total death numbers are not above normal death numbers.” this claim is incorrect and does not take into account the spike in raw death count from all causes compared to previous years. According to the cdc, there have been almost 300,000 excess deaths due to covid-19. Additionally, briand presented data of total u.s. Deaths in comparison to covid-19-related deaths as a proportion percentage, which trivializes the repercussions of the pandemic. This evidence does not disprove the severity of covid-19; an increase in excess deaths is not represented in these proportionalities because they are offered as percentages, not raw numbers.
briand also claimed in her analysis that deaths due to heart diseases, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia may be incorrectly categorized as covid-19-related deaths. However, covid-19 disproportionately affects those with preexisting conditions, so those with those underlying conditions are statistically more likely to be severely affected and die from the virus.
because of these inaccuracies and our failure to provide additional information about the effects of covid-19, the news-letter decided to retract this article. It is our duty as a publication to combat the spread of misinformation and to enhance our fact-checking process. We apologize to our readers.

update, 1200 utc, 11/28/20: Briand tells us:
[color=rgba(51, 51, 51, 0.7)]the news-letter is an editorially and financially independent, student-run publication. Their decision to retract the article was their own. Yanni gu did an excellent at reporting the content of the presentation.[/color]

Roscoe_Word · 12-01-20, 04:06 PM

No secret the mainstream media skews numbers and presents data and information in a way as to "manufacture consent."

hehfest · 12-01-20, 04:09 PM

I said back in March this was all by design. See. People need some sort of authority to tell them things before they believe it. That's why they are called sheep.

Slurry Pumper · 12-01-20, 04:12 PM

Just further proof of the Plandemic. With a paltry 300,000 in the U.S., we haven't even cracked 0.10% of the population yet, and most of those were people who were on their way out this year anyway.

Hman · 12-01-20, 04:20 PM

It's still not a good thing.

Just one more thing to worry about.

Ghenghis Kahn · 12-01-20, 05:22 PM

Lol Jake the idiot Gaucho speaks. You're so brainwashed you haven't a clue.

Sadly idiots like you are the majority

Once again numbers don't lie.

The Kraken · 12-01-20, 05:32 PM

This has to be a joke

A “study” published by someone in the Masters degree program that was not peer reviewed

This is why no one takes you serious

BigdaddyQH · 12-01-20, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn

Lol Jake the idiot Gaucho speaks. You're so brainwashed you haven't a clue.

Sadly idiots like you are the majority

Once again numbers don't lie.

Sadly it is idiots like yourself that we smart ones have to eliminate from the face of this planet. You are nothing but a big mouth loser. You have never done anything in your worthless life. You really should not be allowed to breathe the same air as people like myself.

The Kraken · 12-01-20, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by BigdaddyQH

Sadly it is idiots like yourself that we smart ones have to eliminate from the face of this planet. You are nothing but a big mouth loser. You have never done anything in your worthless life. You really should not be allowed to breathe the same air as people like myself.

I certainly wouldn’t wanna breathe the same air as you. You’re an obese pedo that is wheelchair bound, I can only imagine the stench coming from your gunt

gauchojake · 12-01-20, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn

Lol Jake the idiot Gaucho speaks. You're so brainwashed you haven't a clue.

Sadly idiots like you are the majority

Once again numbers don't lie.

I can assure you the idiots like me are not the majority otherwise things would be wayyyy cooler.

I enjoy your conspiracy theories. It's definitely a "through the looking glass" experience to see someone who is so paranoid. You should probably get that checked out.

The Kraken · 12-01-20, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by gauchojake

The emperor has no clothes sheeple

It was a review of data by an individual that does not specialize in either medicine or disease research, and she came to many incorrect conclusions because she is an amateur. The “study” was published in a student newspaper and after being alerted that the conclusions were incorrect the newspaper decided to retract, not delete the study.

Now the sheep are focusing on an incorrect conclusion like junebugs to a light.

JHU has put out many studies regarding covid and death rate, yet people like the OP cling to the one that is incorrect because it supports their preconceived ideas and protects their fragile egos

fried cheese · 12-01-20, 06:10 PM

i watched her presentation and she appears to be an idiot. she was comparing different time periods. she compared the spikes in death of past years to the spike in death this year. the problem is that this years spike was in the spring instead of the winter. so of course deaths from all other causes are going to decrease as the weather is getting warmer because deaths increase with the cold and dont just all increase because other deaths are increasing.

the data that looks like it actually backs up her claims of deaths being over reported for covid is at the end of the graph that she used. deaths from all other causes are lower at the end of the graph than during any of the past years while deaths should be increasing every year on average with increases in population. at the end of her graph when compared to the past years the deaths from all other causes should have already bottomed out and started to rise again during that time period but they were still falling.

i think it will take a couple of years to see the increased deaths from covid be countered by the lower deaths from all other causes. covid is probably just shortening ppls lives that would have died in a year or so anyways.

Kermit · 12-01-20, 06:30 PM

My uncle's fiance died on Thanksgiving from Covid(I think I shared that they both had it several weeks ago) She also had several limbs and an eye removed due to diabetes. She was living on a day to day basis prior to getting the Virus. But in the end, they ruled her death due to covid, even though we knew she was in very bad shape.

I had come into contact with someone a few weeks ago that had it and I got sick from them, and of course my wife got it from me. We are both better now. I was only sort of ill for a few days, nothign real bad. Slight fever mild headache, some coughing. But it took about 10 days until I felt close to 100%. My dad got it from the same person that I did. He is also better now.

ace7550 · 12-01-20, 07:54 PM

Originally posted by pologq

the asses in ghenghis's avatar treat covid. fauci agrees.

I would gladly eat covid out of their asses.

gauchojake · 12-01-20, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by The Kraken

It was a review of data by an individual that does not specialize in either medicine or disease research, and she came to many incorrect conclusions because she is an amateur. The “study” was published in a student newspaper and after being alerted that the conclusions were incorrect the newspaper decided to retract, not delete the study.

Now the sheep are focusing on an incorrect conclusion like junebugs to a light.

JHU has put out many studies regarding covid and death rate, yet people like the OP cling to the one that is incorrect because it supports their preconceived ideas and protects their fragile egos

Kraken the second I saw "economics" and not something clinical, alarm bells obviously started going off. Then I think hmmm I wonder if this was a peer reviewed study published in a respected journal? No it's some clown publishing conspiracy theory fodder in a student newspaper. It's laughable but if you just look on the surface it's sensational.

If she published something related to Covid's economic effect, I am all ears. Drawing incorrect conclusions on Covid death rates based on flawed data in a field you have no experience in? No.

PharaohUB · 12-01-20, 10:44 PM

Originally posted by The Kraken

This has to be a joke

A “study” published by someone in the Masters degree program that was not peer reviewed

This is why no one takes you serious

And here is the problem. Nobody you deem worthy would touch this because they are controlled and have bias. They’re reason for withdrawing it has nothing to do with the authenticity of the data. They removed it because it supported theories by people they disagreed with it. They admitted that and it doesn’t bother you at all? Or make you wonder what other facts are hidden from us because it doesn’t support their narrative

TheMoneyShot · 12-02-20, 08:58 AM

Originally posted by King Mayan

Damn I guess the nurse I know in a “dirty”ICU is bullshitting me.

You don't know anyone.

The Kraken · 12-02-20, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by gauchojake

Kraken the second I saw "economics" and not something clinical, alarm bells obviously started going off. Then I think hmmm I wonder if this was a peer reviewed study published in a respected journal? No it's some clown publishing conspiracy theory fodder in a student newspaper. It's laughable but if you just look on the surface it's sensational.

If she published something related to Covid's economic effect, I am all ears. Drawing incorrect conclusions on Covid death rates based on flawed data in a field you have no experience in? No.

Exactly. Took me two minutes to realize the whole thing was sus. The first red-flag was exactly what you said, a professor in economics coming to conclusions about covid death rates. The second red flag was that the study was retracted. The third being her conclusions were wildly different than every other studies conclusions. The fourth was it hasnt been peer-reviewed.

It all comes down to what we want to believe. We live in a time where there is so much available information in addition to disinformation, that regardless of our beliefs or leanings we can find something to support them. Even when the belief is as crazy as Covid is a hoax or doesn’t influence death rate.

Unfortunately, people run with this shitty, retracted study that ultimately concludes “more research and data is needed” and they use it to justify their whack ass beliefs.

I remember my granddad saying the govt was trying to kill old people with chemtrails from planes, and the Council on Foreign Relations was a cabal secretly running the world. That was my first exposire to conspirqcy theories. The next big one was 9/11 and the truthers. Now Covid. Its all the same