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  • The Kraken
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 12-25-11
    • 28918

    #1
    Who is gonna PARDON Edward Snowden
    Someone has to eventually do the right thing

    It sure to fukk wont be Biden, Snowden exposed the Obama administrations secrets.

    Trump may be his only chance. Trump may do it in spite of Biden, I hope he does.

    He deserves to be pardoned. That man did this country a service and he now lives in Russia because the US Govt cornered him there.
  • slewfan
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-01-15
    • 15929

    #2
    Originally posted by The Kraken
    Someone has to eventually do the right thing

    It sure to fukk wont be Biden, Snowden exposed the Obama administrations secrets.

    Trump may be his only chance. Trump may do it in spite of Biden, I hope he does.

    He deserves to be pardoned. That man did this country a service and he now lives in Russia because the US Govt cornered him there.

    Well said. He is an American Hero. He threw the Obama administration for a loop. Exposed them. The democrats are just bad people. Term limits are the only thing that can save America. Get the politicians out before they become too powerful..
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    • The Kraken
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      • 12-25-11
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      #3
      Ya, Obama was all about whistleblower protection when he ran and he touted all these protections he was going to afford them. And then Snowden happened and it turns out all that talk was just talk.

      With that said, no Republicans have rushed to pardon him either. This is not an issue about liberals being bad people, or even worse than conservatives because I dont believe thats the case, this highlights how powerful the intelligence community is and they operate with impunity.

      The NSA was breaking the law, and not one person was held accountable. Yet the whistleblower is facing possibility of life in jail if he ever leaves Russia.

      How could we fukk this up so bad that we make Russia appear as if they’re the moral compass of the world.

      All said, I think we have common ground here albeit different paths of getting there.
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      • mtneer1212
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        • 06-22-08
        • 4993

        #4
        He is no hero. He is a traitor. What he did might have been good for the moment, but caused long-term harm to the country. And then the weasel ran..... to Russia. Who knows what else he gave up to the Kremlin........ Fuk him, let him rot in Siberia.
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        • slewfan
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 10-01-15
          • 15929

          #5
          Originally posted by mtneer1212
          He is no hero. He is a traitor. What he did might have been good for the moment, but caused long-term harm to the country. And then the weasel ran..... to Russia. Who knows what else he gave up to the Kremlin........ Fuk him, let him rot in Siberia.

          I can’t agree. This is part reason why Trump is in. People will never know all the facts. But it is obvious the Obama Admin. along with the FBI were illegally spying on American citizens. Snowden exposed the deep state for the first time. Making people aware of the governments absolute disregard for the Constitution..
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          • slewfan
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 10-01-15
            • 15929

            #6
            Originally posted by The Kraken
            Ya, Obama was all about whistleblower protection when he ran and he touted all these protections he was going to afford them. And then Snowden happened and it turns out all that talk was just talk.

            With that said, no Republicans have rushed to pardon him either. This is not an issue about liberals being bad people, or even worse than conservatives because I dont believe thats the case, this highlights how powerful the intelligence community is and they operate with impunity.

            The NSA was breaking the law, and not one person was held accountable. Yet the whistleblower is facing possibility of life in jail if he ever leaves Russia.

            How could we fukk this up so bad that we make Russia appear as if they’re the moral compass of the world.

            All said, I think we have common ground here albeit different paths of getting there.
            I agree. Republicans are just as bad politically. They just seem to adhere to the Constitution more readily than Democrat derisiveness and division..
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            • Ghenghis Kahn
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-02-12
              • 19734

              #7
              Snowden is a CIA asset. What did he reveal that people didn't know anyway?

              Oh the government is spying on us... They listen to our phone calls. Google, Yahoo, Facebook collect your data, share it, sell it, do whatever they want with it. Etc. etc. etc. Give me a fukking break.

              People with clues already knew this.
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              • Ghenghis Kahn
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 01-02-12
                • 19734

                #8
                If you want a real whistleblower here she is... Snowden and Assange are both frauds, not whistleblowers.

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                • RedApples
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 10-02-18
                  • 721

                  #9
                  Snowden is a hero obviously. Trump has a better chance of getting Snowden pardoned if he loses the election. Glen Greenwald says it, and it makes a lot of sense. If Biden wins, theres about zero chance.

                  The Obama regime was one which took away all freedom. Spying on citizens, the mass collection of data, lying to citizens to gain more control, drone campaigns. The Snowden revelations, along with those of guys like Jacob Appelbaum and numerous other heroes, all of which have been the victim of a Witch Hunt, showed how evil the Obama regime truly was. Surely this goes a lot deeper, and the intelligence community which Krakken alluded to is extremely strong, and it isn't to say that liberals are bad people. But the way that these things were dealt with was a huge black stain.

                  This is also a large reason why Trump won last time around. There were lots of people including me who were fed up with zero accountability for government #1, and government surveillance #2. Those were two hot topic issues at the time. Now, the thought of government surveillance has been swept under the rug, but make no mistake that this is a power grab, and with Trump at the helm, even though we might have had an idiot who stuck his foot in his mouth, he seemingly and honestly tries to do the right thing in regards to issues, and as a person he is pretty fair.

                  We're in for some pain regardless of what happens now. I wish Snowden would get pardoned. I wish things weren't the way they are and the country is completely lost. We are all controlled and brainwashed at this point and have zero power. The majority of citizens recognize Snowden as a hero and still nothing is done. The only answer is because we haven't made a stink of it yet, and it isn't in the best interests of the powers at be to acquiesce on their own volition.

                  It isn't irony that every single person who has been vocal about what the NSA has done has had a smear campaign and Witch Hunt waged against them. They aren't all rapists and traitors and all of these wild things. The odds would be astronomical for 1 or 2 let alone all of them to be guilty of such things. The FBI, NSA, our government as a whole has been guilty of covert operations to suppress opposition. It's ALWAYS been the case. It makes sense, when you fight a system it fights back. But it's just sad that this is our government, it has been proven, and they ALWAYS get off the hook. Lois Lerner, Eric Holder, James Clapper, the list goes on and on and on and on.

                  Hopefully the USA is in trouble, we deserve it.
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                  • rkelly110
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                    • 10-05-09
                    • 39691

                    #10
                    WTF is wrong with you people? Snowden and manning are both POS traitors that should be in front of a firing squad! You should be ashamed of yourselves for calling yourselves patriots. Yes, America has secrets, but to go public with them was wrong. There are other channels to go through. Now, our adversaries like russia know exactly how we do things. I wouldn't put it past rump to pardon those two, because he is a russian loving commie himself! Tomorrow can't come fast enough!
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                    • maggiethebestdog
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 12-21-13
                      • 6700

                      #11
                      Originally posted by rkelly110
                      WTF is wrong with you people? Snowden and manning are both POS traitors that should be in front of a firing squad! You should be ashamed of yourselves for calling yourselves patriots. Yes, America has secrets, but to go public with them was wrong. There are other channels to go through. Now, our adversaries like russia know exactly how we do things. I wouldn't put it past rump to pardon those two, because he is a russian loving commie himself! Tomorrow can't come fast enough!
                      LOL

                      What a moron

                      Hey Rkelly, have you got your hands on Chelsea Manning's dildo yet???

                      I know he/she isn't a blood relative of yours, but that dildo might be worth a good sniff or two for ya

                      Good luck!!!!!!!
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                      • rkelly110
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                        • 10-05-09
                        • 39691

                        #12
                        Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                        LOL

                        What a moron

                        Hey Rkelly, have you got your hands on Chelsea Manning's dildo yet???

                        I know he/she isn't a blood relative of yours, but that dildo might be worth a good sniff or two for ya

                        Good luck!!!!!!!
                        Yeah, it's hanging out of your mouth dick head.
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                        • RedApples
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 10-02-18
                          • 721

                          #13
                          Originally posted by rkelly110
                          WTF is wrong with you people? Snowden and manning are both POS traitors that should be in front of a firing squad! You should be ashamed of yourselves for calling yourselves patriots. Yes, America has secrets, but to go public with them was wrong. There are other channels to go through. Now, our adversaries like russia know exactly how we do things. I wouldn't put it past rump to pardon those two, because he is a russian loving commie himself! Tomorrow can't come fast enough!
                          You should really get informed. Also, no one brought up Manning before you did. You sound full of hate and clearly don't know anything about the topics.
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                          • rkelly110
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                            • 10-05-09
                            • 39691

                            #14
                            Originally posted by RedApples
                            You should really get informed. Also, no one brought up Manning before you did. You sound full of hate and clearly don't know anything about the topics.
                            Snowden a hero? The only reason why he gave up US secrets was because he was made fun of by his peers and was passed over for a promo. In other words crying like a bitch and took it out on the govt sorta what your boy does now. Manning was approached by russia with money to steal US secrets and got caught. Snowden ran to russia to get away from US authorities where he would be prosecuted for his crimes, which btw are against the law. You want to label him a hero? That's on you.
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                            • RedApples
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 10-02-18
                              • 721

                              #15
                              Originally posted by rkelly110
                              Snowden a hero? The only reason why he gave up US secrets was because he was made fun of by his peers and was passed over for a promo. In other words crying like a bitch and took it out on the govt sorta what your boy does now. Manning was approached by russia with money to steal US secrets and got caught. Snowden ran to russia to get away from US authorities where he would be prosecuted for his crimes, which btw are against the law. You want to label him a hero? That's on you.
                              It's one thing to glorify nonsense like the bolded, which you are passing off as fact when it's just fabricated nonsense, but you don't even have any of the details of what happened correct. You sound like you've been picked on your entire life, have no job, and now in your free time you go onto the internet to spit hate. Nothing you are saying is true. Not sure what random YouTube videos you are watching that is giving you this asinine line of thinking, but anyone who spent 5 minutes to get educated on what Snowden did will read your posts as entirely ignorant and stupid.
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                              • Sanity Check
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 03-30-13
                                • 10962

                                #16
                                Tulsi Gabbard talked about pardoning Assange/Snowden.

                                Then Hillary called her a russian agent.

                                Wonder why.
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                                • fried cheese
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-17-13
                                  • 4461

                                  #17
                                  its pathetic that ppl want to protect the government from having its criminal activities exposed. i hope snowden and assange get pardoned.
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                                  • The Kraken
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                                    • 12-25-11
                                    • 28918

                                    #18
                                    The NSA broke the law knowingly, James Clapper lied to Congress under oath. Edward Snowden pulled the curtain back and exposed them.

                                    Its been decided by appeals courts that no American and no investigation was compromised by the information he released. Its also been decider recently that what the NSA did was against the law.

                                    Yet no one has been held accountable except the one person that told the truth.

                                    Not the people that lied under oath, not the people that knowingly approved an illegal operation against the American people.

                                    Only the person that did the right and noble thing.

                                    If you’re arguing that he isnt a hero, thats fine. I understand. But if you’re ok with him being persecuted while justifying the actions of the intelligence communities, you might want to ask yourself what your values are and re-calibrate your moral compass.

                                    This shouldn’t have to be a political issue
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                                    • The Kraken
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                                      • 12-25-11
                                      • 28918

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by fried cheese
                                      its pathetic that ppl want to protect the government from having its criminal activities exposed. i hope snowden and assange get pardoned.
                                      Absolutely
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                                      • dlowilly
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 11-09-16
                                        • 13862

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by RedApples
                                        It's one thing to glorify nonsense like the bolded, which you are passing off as fact when it's just fabricated nonsense, but you don't even have any of the details of what happened correct. You sound like you've been picked on your entire life, have no job, and now in your free time you go onto the internet to spit hate. Nothing you are saying is true. Not sure what random YouTube videos you are watching that is giving you this asinine line of thinking, but anyone who spent 5 minutes to get educated on what Snowden did will read your posts as entirely ignorant and stupid.
                                        He's just here to troll
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                                        • rkelly110
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                                          • 10-05-09
                                          • 39691

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by RedApples
                                          It's one thing to glorify nonsense like the bolded, which you are passing off as fact when it's just fabricated nonsense, but you don't even have any of the details of what happened correct. You sound like you've been picked on your entire life, have no job, and now in your free time you go onto the internet to spit hate. Nothing you are saying is true. Not sure what random YouTube videos you are watching that is giving you this asinine line of thinking, but anyone who spent 5 minutes to get educated on what Snowden did will read your posts as entirely ignorant and stupid.
                                          Your word against mine buckwheat. As far as being picked on, I defend those who are picked on. Been in more fights than you can count on one hand missing 4 fingers.
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                                          • The Kraken
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                                            • 12-25-11
                                            • 28918

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by rkelly110
                                            WTF is wrong with you people? Snowden and manning are both POS traitors that should be in front of a firing squad! You should be ashamed of yourselves for calling yourselves patriots. Yes, America has secrets, but to go public with them was wrong. There are other channels to go through. Now, our adversaries like russia know exactly how we do things. I wouldn't put it past rump to pardon those two, because he is a russian loving commie himself! Tomorrow can't come fast enough!
                                            Again, not a single asset or operation was compromised as a result of the information he release and exposed. Channels? Thats naive. Go through the channels and get discredited, reassigned, placed out of the loop so you no longer have access to the illegal activities.

                                            Its sad to me that you view it otherwise. We agree on a lot and I dont expect us to agree on everything but honestly to me this issue is kinda clear cut. I dont see a lot of gray here
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                                            • slewfan
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 10-01-15
                                              • 15929

                                              #23
                                              Kelly knows the Russians are more civilized and trustworthy than the democrat party, as it is today, in the American Political arena.. Democrats have become a confused, disoriented political arm of China.

                                              He has nothing but hate and vitriol in his soul. He suffers TDS at a desperate level.
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                                              • rkelly110
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                                                • 10-05-09
                                                • 39691

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                Again, not a single asset or operation was compromised as a result of the information he release and exposed. Channels? Thats naive. Go through the channels and get discredited, reassigned, placed out of the loop so you no longer have access to the illegal activities.

                                                Its sad to me that you view it otherwise. We agree on a lot and I dont expect us to agree on everything but honestly to me this issue is kinda clear cut. I dont see a lot of gray here
                                                All I know is snowden is exiled and in russia. I hear he just applied for russian citizenship and has a wife with son on the way. That's ok, there's some who think he's a traitor, like me and those that think he's a hero, like you.... according to wikipedia. To each his own.
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                                                • rkelly110
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                                                  • 10-05-09
                                                  • 39691

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by slewfan
                                                  Kelly knows the Russians are more civilized and trustworthy than the democrat party, as it is today, in the American Political arena.. Democrats have become a confused, disoriented political arm of China.

                                                  He has nothing but hate and vitriol in his soul. He suffers TDS at a desperate level.
                                                  Sowed by your POS pres that I hope will be defeated come tomorrow.
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                                                  • mjsuax13
                                                    Moderator
                                                    • 03-14-15
                                                    • 25095

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                    Someone has to eventually do the right thing

                                                    It sure to fukk wont be Biden, Snowden exposed the Obama administrations secrets.

                                                    Trump may be his only chance. Trump may do it in spite of Biden, I hope he does.

                                                    He deserves to be pardoned. That man did this country a service and he now lives in Russia because the US Govt cornered him there.
                                                    A bullet. I think he has to stay there or a whack will take him out like QH says.
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                                                    • slewfan
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 10-01-15
                                                      • 15929

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                      Sowed by your POS pres that I hope will be defeated come tomorrow.
                                                      We shall see.!. May the best man win.
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                                                      • KVB
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 05-29-14
                                                        • 74817

                                                        #28
                                                        Not sure he needs a pardon, might just need some charges to be dropped.

                                                        Was he convicted of anything?
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