WHOA! France to set age of consent to 15

[MinnesotaFats]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43300313?fbclid=IwAR2en_IbDsha1xwBf33j6q tLAhQeJ5cAgrYjsHGo0x-uTdh22OI0JX-4ET4

Given the furious debate around the Epstein case recently this is a rather bold move by French leadership.

Consent and age, and the difference in laws in different countries have come up before in the forum so I figured it's a topic of interest. France maybe the 1st western society to openly lower the age (US Military institutions and bases is also 15).

[Zlaniner]

Any morals left in this world

[MinnesotaFats]

Any morals left in this world

That's liberalism and the progressive movement.

They just keep getting elected by the victims of the world, then implement policies that create more victims....

This is pretty much exhibit 1a

The black community and it's reliance upon Democrats 1b

Single moms and their reliance upon the courts and the government 1c

"The United States shall exist only for so long as we can maintain a moral society"

-John Adams

[rustie]

That's liberalism and the progressive movement.

They just keep getting elected by the victims of the world, then implement policies that create more victims....

This is pretty much exhibit 1a

The black community and it's reliance upon Democrats 1b

Single moms and their reliance upon the courts and the government 1c

"The United States shall exist only for so long as we can maintain a moral society"

-John Adams

you do realize Trump was a known ASSociate of Epstein ,There goes your "moral society" bub bye

[DwightShrute]

but seriously. WTF?

[DwightShrute]

you do realize Trump was a known ASSociate of Epstein ,There goes your "moral society" bub bye

Trump dumped Epstein once he saw what a creep he was. A quick google search and you would have known that. Guilt by association is intellectual laziness

[gauchojake]

When are you moving to France fatty?

[hehfest]

Any morals left in this world

Good job of leaving out the question mark!

[pologq]

wow, just wow

[Hman]

Sounds perverted to even discuss it, but...

1. Girls in general starting off around 12-13 these days anyhow

2. French girls have always started on avg earlier than other countries

So easy to do the math

Taking all of that into consideration, wouldn't you guys say they are applying a number at 15 that's more than fair??

Besides, arent some countries legally 12-13??

Many countries believe it should be based on maturity level, not an actual age.

But that would be impossible to implement.

[Mac4Lyfe]

What’s the problem here? Weren’t we all having sex by 15? Either you’re a hypocrite or have trouble with your sexuality?

[Hman]

I have 2 daughters.

One over 20, the other 13.

I/we taught them both the same things about boys at a young age.

It is my belief that hiding things from them and locking them up only makes them more curious and backfires.

Ive actually seen it first hand with 2 preachers' daughters.

Anyhow, the oldest daughter never even asked to date or see a boy until age 18.

When younger she would come home and tell us when guys were saying inappropriate things to her.

She took the info we provided her and was innocent.

The 13 year old now?

Total opposite.

According to her virtually every friend or girl she knows her age has already had sex.

Times have changed, no other way to look at it.

[PAULYPOKER]

A 15 year old female has the maturity level of a 20 year old male.

[Hman]

A 15 year old female has the maturity level of a 20 year old male.

Probably true

[Nitrogen]

Alaska and North Carolina. Both bastions of liberal values or moral corruptness, allow marriage at 14 (at least up to 2018 it was)

Read the article to realize they had to make the law (and age) more clear so they charge abusers.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Sounds perverted to even discuss it, but...

1. Girls in general starting off around 12-13 these days anyhow

2. French girls have always started on avg earlier than other countries

So easy to do the math

Taking all of that into consideration, wouldn't you guys say they are applying a number at 15 that's more than fair??

Besides, arent some countries legally 12-13??

Many countries believe it should be based on maturity level, not an actual age.

But that would be impossible to implement.

I think arrange marriages as young as 12 are legal in India. It might sound sick but they don’t have near as high the divorce rate we have in the US.

[MinnesotaFats]

Yeah I mean it was 11 in USA up till the 20s or so.

Guys like Edgar Allen Poe and Cobb (of Cobb County) married 12 year olds while in their 30s. But we've had a 2 generation shift towards upping the age...this was a shock.

Now....how bizzare is this.

You must be 21 to drink
21 to smoke
16 to drive
18 to vote
18 to kill in military
Need a permit to catch a fish

But ya you can have kids at 15 w whoever u want....

[Nitrogen]

Judge Roy Moore met his wife when he was 29 and she was...15

[Hman]

Now....how bizzare is this.

You must be 21 to drink
21 to smoke
16 to drive
18 to vote
18 to kill in military
Need a permit to catch a fish

.

I suppose the question remains, when it comes to many things, is the U.S. simply too overbearing & overprotective, or wiser?

But, take another look when you look at that list of things, do you see the difference?

Most things are man-made....laws.

Sex?

It's actually a human-function.

Born in our DNA.

Maybe that's why some countries/people base it more on maturity-level of the individual rather than a flat age.

[hehfest]

So this is why they have that baby TROLL doll/toy now for toddlers that you press it near its vagina and it makes sex noises? I guess they should just start having sex before puberty.

And if they did hit puberty.....who will take care of the new babies? The state (taxpayers without representation) or will she work at McDonald's or how about the parents and grandparents can which already happens everywhere anyway.

Oh wait, there is abortion too. Who pays for that? The taxpayers without representation?

[blankoblanco]

Maybe that's why some countries/people base it more on maturity-level of the individual rather than a flat age.

But as you alluded to before, age creates a black and white line that's enforceable by law. Trying to judge emotional maturity in every case is ridiculous and impractical

Underage people are gonna have sex no matter what you do, but any country's government making it a priority to lower the legal age of consent just strikes me as very weird and creepy. It's well known that there is a ton of pedophilia among the rich and powerful, just look at Hollywood

[Hman]

So this is why they have that baby TROLL doll/toy now for toddlers that you press it near its vagina and it makes sex noises? I guess they should just start having sex before puberty.

This a real thing??

[PharaohUB]

A 15 year old female has the maturity level of a 20 year old male.

So does a 35 year old female.

[hehfest]

This a real thing??

I believe pulled from the market already, as the manufacturer said it was an accident.......yeah sure.

[hehfest]

So does a 35 year old female.

LMFAO.....very true. They reach their peak at acting like a 20 year old for ROL. GL chappies.

[KVB]

This a real thing??

The design was so that the doleld gasped and giggled when sat down.

LMAO...

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[pologq]

i dont think sex is as black and white with an age as it was back in the day. you get 12-14 yr old girls looking older and more mature and by 15-18 these girls are women mentally and physically. it should be case by case if an issue arises.

not saying young girls should be allowed to be preyed on either. if a girl is still a "kid" bodywise and mentally that is pedophilia and disgusting. just saying if a 15 year old is banging a 20 year old guy and she knows what sex is and is mature, the guy should not be necessarily guilty of a crime just for sleeping with her if she is willing.

[gauchojake]

Why did we even arrest that Epstein guy in the first place????

[hostile takeover]

Mohammed married Aisha when she was 6.

Can't say I've come across a single socialist or muslim that thinks it's a bad thing.

[Hman]

Mohammed married Aisha when she was 6.

Can't say I've come across a single socialist or muslim that thinks it's a bad thing.

Yeah and they still do that today.

I think we'd all agred marrying toddlers is disgusting

[dxp]

i don't have a problem with the 15 year old mark. i've always found it idiotic a girl can skank herself out at whatever age and when she's "dating" someone else that's under 18, it's perfectly fine. but god forbid if she's 16 in some places and the boy is 19. then he's an offender? yeah, right. meanwhile.. an 18 year old girl can date a 72 year old man and it's cool. again.. yeah, right.

the age to marry should be 18 though.

[blankoblanco]

i don't have a problem with the 15 year old mark. i've always found it idiotic a girl can skank herself out at whatever age and when she's "dating" someone else that's under 18, it's perfectly fine. but god forbid if she's 16 in some places and the boy is 19. then he's an offender? yeah, right. meanwhile.. an 18 year old girl can date a 72 year old man and it's cool. again.. yeah, right.

the age to marry should be 18 though.

So why do you draw a distinct line between the age of marriage vs. sex? Hell, some people marry before having sex

Just seems like a bit of self-contradicting stance. Either age matters or it doesn't. You seem to be picking and choosing arbitrarily

[dxp]

So why do you draw a distinct line between the age of marriage vs. sex? Hell, some people marry before having sex

Just seems like a bit of self-contradicting stance. Either age matters or it doesn't. You seem to be picking and choosing arbitrarily

because one can't expect a young teenage boy or girl to handle the complexity of true love, marriage, employment, dedication, raising kids, paying bills, property, school, etc.

however, it's simply an act of nature to want to explore and test sexual boundaries. most kids prefer to do it before they even hit high school. so yeah, while no mother/father wants to walk in on their 15-16 year old getting it on with a 20 year old.. the bullshit drama of "they don't know what they're doing" needs to stop.

[Itsamazing777]

It was 14 15 before modern times.

[StackinGreen]

yes, older women (30s-40s who usually hit the wall long already/long ago) especially need to shut up about that - on the one hand women are all this and all that, and then conveniently on the other hand an 18 year old or early 20s is "stupid", "doesn't know what she's doing" = has no agency. You can't have it both ways. If you really think that, those women shouldn't be voting (by the way, most should be excluded from voting)

The real issue going on here is that feminists (largely oldies or lesbos who aren't in the game anymore) try to maximize sexuality for them and minimize it for men. Until there is leadership that is honest about what men prize (youth = fertility, beauty, chastity) and what women do (money, power, status, etc only height really matters physically) you'll just have more years of confused BS society.

women pay little mind to other men in their 20s, men pay little mind to women in their 30s (the switch occurs). The most natural pairing is about 30-20, there should be at least 8 to 10 year gaps. Real men, real leaders, families. You'll get that if you do away with government and welfare, and leftist movements --- as all of those are anti men and anti family.