probably the only real science on this topic
any of you will ever see
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probably the only real science on this topic
any of you will ever see
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Bumping this.
In the hope of someone with a following putting mask myths to rest.Comment -
wonder how well one of those mask-thing-a-ma-jiggies would hold up in blocking the spray of one of my early sunday morning shiner bock/panchos' mexican buffett blasts......
i'm thinkin' i'd blast right through even an non-knockoff n-95 mask.........Comment -
The science has shown that airflow follows the path of least resistance. 7th paragraph in above report, the masks don't work. They may reduce airflow, but they don't stop airflow, hence they are worthless by comparison to distancing and hygiene.Comment -
It doesn't have to 100% stop airflow.
It only needs to keep it relatively contained to reduce how far the infection can travel.
That study sounds like it was written by millennials fixated on defining everything within their own flawed absolutist conception of reality. Its not science. Its a propaganda piece.Comment -
Of course masks reduce the spread. Its not fukkin rocket science.Comment -
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This video shows that mask are good as "deflectors". Droplets do indeed get blocked.
However, there are aerosols leaking out the sides and anywhere there is not a tight fit. Aerosols also come in the same way. Religious Maskies come down with Covid everyday. Virus gonna virus with or without a mask.
Watch this smoke test video performed by auncorruptdoctor:
Note that smoke particles are the same or larger than virus particles. Also, notice how the smoke hangs around like a cloud in the immediate area. Virus particles would do the same.
Typical masks are not effective against keeping floating virus particles from entering your lungs/eyes.
Read the box.
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These 12 Graphs Show Mask Mandates Do Nothing To Stop COVIDComment -
This video shows that mask are good as "deflectors". Droplets do indeed get blocked.
However, there are aerosols leaking out the sides and anywhere there is not a tight fit. Aerosols also come in the same way. Religious Maskies come down with Covid everyday. Virus gonna virus with or without a mask.
Watch this smoke test video performed by auncorruptdoctor:
Note that smoke particles are the same or larger than virus particles. Also, notice how the smoke hangs around like a cloud in the immediate area. Virus particles would do the same.
Typical masks are not effective against keeping floating virus particles from entering your lungs/eyes.
Read the box.
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These 12 Graphs Show Mask Mandates Do Nothing To Stop COVID
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"Walls are not 100% effective at preventing illegal immigrants from entering the country, Trump's wall is therefore 100% ineffective."
"Guns are not 100% effective in home defense, this means the 2nd amendment should be abolished and guns should be banned."
"Police are not 100% effective, this means they're 100% ineffective and must be defunded."
"Masks are not 100% effective at containment, therefore masks are 100% ineffective."
The symmetry is apparent for those who know.Comment -
"If the masks are effective, why do we have to socially distance"?
"If the social distancing is effective, why do we have to wear masks"?
Don't labor under the delusion that a mask is protecting you or others - most masks, not even a little bit.
Seems to be more about submission than a virus.....Comment -
Have you ever seen.
Someone struggle to explain why safety measures like social distancing.
Are devised around worst case scenarios rather than best case scenarios.
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There will always be a percentage of people who wear their masks incorrectly making social distancing necessary.
Common sense. Right.Comment -
Well, neither is effective in a engine-ends-up-in-the-back-seat type of wreck. Slower speeds, of course, they probably both help.
Two different "sciences", I think, so not really alike.....
What is curious is the psychology at play, here, in this plandemic:
1. Do you fear someone without a mask?
2. Are you terrified that you may not be one of the 99.9% that survive?
3. Do you think that if everyone would just mask up and socially distance that this virus would go away?
10 months and the Convid is still going strong. Past and present mitigation doesn't seem to work all that well - masks, distancing, lockdowns, etc. The virus still thrives. The vaxxes? I don't have much faith in the vaxxes. But everyone should be free to make up their own minds...
Want to wear a mask? Fine. Want to get vaxxed? Fine. Just don't tell me I have to do the same, ya know?Comment -
So no vaping or smoking either.....did it ever occur to you that you are not supposed to inhale what you exhale. Put a plastic bag over your head and let us know how that goes.Comment -
So don't cough and everything will be just fine.Comment -
JfcThis video shows that mask are good as "deflectors". Droplets do indeed get blocked.
However, there are aerosols leaking out the sides and anywhere there is not a tight fit. Aerosols also come in the same way. Religious Maskies come down with Covid everyday. Virus gonna virus with or without a mask.
Watch this smoke test video performed by auncorruptdoctor:
Note that smoke particles are the same or larger than virus particles. Also, notice how the smoke hangs around like a cloud in the immediate area. Virus particles would do the same.
Typical masks are not effective against keeping floating virus particles from entering your lungs/eyes.
Read the box.
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These 12 Graphs Show Mask Mandates Do Nothing To Stop COVID
nobody said masks are 100% effective
of course airflow hs to take place or we’d all suffocate
the whole point is to reduce the amount of DROPLETS being transmitted because we know DROPLETS are the main source of transmission
So yes, airflow still takes place throwugh and around the mask, and thank god for that. And yes, the masks are extremely effective at blocking a majority of droplets moving forward, and thank god for that.
As of now there is some evidence that SOME of the covid virus MAY aerosolize and be airborne but the science is not overwhelming. And even if it is, that still does not make masks ineffective
For as long as Ive been in medicine and dealt with patients that have active TB, which is airborne and extremely easy to spread, the standard in transporting those patients is to put a regular surgical mask on them, and to put a regular surgical mask on you, and that is enough to prevent an aerosolized, airborne spread virus.
Yes, masks work and work extremely well.
If you don't believe it, thats fine. Put yourself at risk and anyone you know. Honestly, I don't give a penetrate.
Some people go so far down the rabbit whole the lose sense of direction and whats real. I cant help those people and am done trying.Comment -
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Yeah, those darn droplets. You make it sound like every human is a projectile body fluid slingin' typhoid Mary. lol
A guy without a mask walks into a store, picks up his items, checks out and speaks to no one. What do you think his droplet emission rate was? I imagine it would be the same as the masked zombies he encountered.
As a medicine man, want to talk faulty and bogus PCR test? The same test Kary Mullis, the inventor, said should not be used as a diagnostic?
When have we ever needed a test to find out if we are sick? I believe the answer is never. Yet, the medical community continues to use this test to look for a virus that has never been isolated, purified or met Koch's Postulates. Perfectly healthy people (and athletes, mind you) showing up positive and then having to spend quarantine (house arrest) until they test negative. But it does run the numbers up and keeps Project Fear going strong.
How about the "special" way Covid deaths are treated? No other deaths are treated the way Covid deaths are treated. An old person dies from multiple co-morbidities and has tested positive or get this: is suspected of having the virus, well, he goes on the CV-19 death count. Want to explain that one? Why is Covid so special?
Why does Big Pharma frown on HCQ and Ivermectin as a prophylaxis (prevention)? Could it be they'd rather sell some vaccines, instead? Get everyone used to a yearly flu shot and a coronavirus shot?
Actually, we're not that different. You've got your science and I've got mine and we both get tired of trying to explain it to the braindead.Comment -
Just look up "Doctors for Truth". A movement of doctors exposing the Covid FRAUD. They all but call this a SCAM and that the world should NOT of EVER been shut down from this. They used this "PCR" test knowing it wouldn't work but would produce false positives and shut things down. The same test that Coca-Cola, and fruit from Tanzania tested positive. Thousands and thousands of doctors have now came to the truth and spoken out. But we got those (Fred The Pinkyyy) Winkyyy Pinkyyyy and Vit-tard types that think we should all go get that vaccine so they can jump on a plane someday.
See because these SBR posters are smarter than doctors that speak out calling this a fraud? Why would they put their name on the line? Are they getting paid off by the COVERT Manipulators or "the Crown"? Yeah, the crown Fredolina. Ever hear of it? You went to war for the crown in WW2 to stop Hitler and NOT communism. The "crown" runs the USA through the Federal Reserve Bank. You fought for the crown in WW2 after the American Revolution against the very crown. The same source.Comment -
I certainly cant answer your question quantitatively, I have no clue how much droplets people emit, honestly. But I know qualitatively the answer is yes, even with normal, unlabored breathing people do emit some amount of droplets. There might be a few dozen to a hundred people in a store at any time. Factor in any coughs/sneezes and it adds up. We know droplets are the main transmission source so anything we can do to minimize the spread of those droplets is a good thing.
As for the pcr I think knowledge is key. First off, Indo not have a doctorate or any specific education in lab medicine, so whatever knowledge I’ve gained is through my own research and speaking with physicians at work. Bur from what I’ve been told by really knowledgable infectious disease docs is that the main pro of the pcr test is that it is extremely sensitive. So if it comes back positive its almost a certainty that the result is correct. Unless reagent somehow contaminates the sample which would be weird, there is no reason for a positive to pop up unless covid is present. The main drawback is that its not very specific. So there are quite a few false negatives. To me thats acceptable. So if someone takes two tests and onenisnpos and the other is negative, its nearly 100% that the person has covid.
And as always, no we’re not all that different. We’re all slaves to information and we all go to different places for our information. I feel fortunate to work with a lot of really bright minds that understand these things at a level I never could. In this day and age of disinformation, I would be somewhat scared to rely on any online publication for knowledge. Not only because of disinformation but even if the article or paper is free of bias, its really hard to interpret if the study is a good or not. What is the n#, the p-rate, was there a decreasing n#, inclusion/exclusion criteria, who funded the study, etc.... Its all overwhelming to try and come to an informed conclusion.
most of the time people dont understand what they’re reading and come to conclusions that are off in left field. And I dont blame them. We’re all slaves to someone or somethingComment -
Are you a nurse? ("For as long as Ive been in medicine and dealt with patients...")
The PCR test has a "knob", an amplifier. Turn the knob up to 40+ and you can find anything you want (false positives). Turn the knob way down and you won't find anything. (false negatives). I think Fauci said anything over 35 can't be trusted. Bits and traces of this and that can get you tested positive even though you are in perfect good health. They will say you are "asymptomatic". It's a ragged, crap test and not specific for Covid 19. You are at the mercy of the tester. One doesn't need a test to know when they are sick. The trouble is, it is at the center of the "epidemic" and our overlords are setting policy based on these tests.
Droplets get taken care of by gravity. Aerosols hang around.
The media can't be trusted anymore for information. CNN, MS-LSD, FOX News, The New York Times, The Washington Post, Bloomberg, your local news, etc. etc. Reuters is CIA Central. I rely on books, doctors and websites that furnish hard evidence. It's not a whacko conspiracy theory when there is hard evidence. Censorship on Youtube, Twitter, Facebook and other social media has reached ridiculous levels. "Truth is Treason in an Empire of Lies".
The discrediting of HCQ was a sham. The so-called studies were administered on the seriously sick and they were given enormous amounts with no zinc. Some were funded by Silicon Valley bigwigs who I suspect wanted to get the conclusion they paid for. All were sloppy and sketchy, IMO. A drug that was safe to use for 60+ years all of sudden had "side effects". BS. Tropical countries that use HCQ regularly for malaria prevention have the lowest Covid death rates in the world.Comment -
Yes, I am a nurse but i work in a Sub-specialty of a speciality. So my knowledge in that one particular area is pretty good but by no means am I an authority on anything just because Im in medicine.
yes deoplets get taken care of by gravity but many times they fall on things that will eventually be touched by other human hands. They land on come cans, soup cans, credit card machines, shopping cart handles, etc.... and that is a major source of transmission. Its not just fact face to face transmission. Masks help contain all droplets.
Jcq is a dangerous drug whether you want to believe that or not. Hcq does fall into a medication we see semi-regularly in my specialty and it can be dangerous when given to the wrong person. Thats the problem with the potus saying it could be helpful in stopping transmission. A normal person gets covid and odds are they’re gonna be fine. But if that person has a genetic predisposition to heart arrhythmias or a prolonged qt interval, hcq can be and has been fatal. Its well documented. So to say the discrediting of it was a sham is not true.
People generally need an ekg before taking any medication that can prolong qt intervals.Comment -
What's amazing about humans, or atleast 1/2 of them in the USA, is that EVERYTHING in their life is science.
Their TV/internet/phone/internet/electricity/medicine/transportation/light/audio/music/bluetooth/flight/apps/computers/refrigeration/on and on and on and on. Even the chemical reaction in the bullets of the guns.
But when it comes to magical sky daddy (which is easily shown was completely made up by men a mere few centuries ago) and the basic idea of aerosol spray from humans can eject virus, bacteria, etc.
They just "gUrD DurMan LibRULz"
Long Story Short. They are imbeciles who should be restricted from breeding.Comment -
And you get your facts/data from? The Lancet maybe? Back in August, Sky News Australia did a piece on HCQ. (I have to get my USA news from non-USA sources these days and I find SNA trustworthy).
They claim the opposite of what you claim and even if it is partly true about sometimes complications from heart arrhythmia, I think if you really looked into it, you'd find that HCQ has probably saved more lives than taken by a monster ratio.
Here's another viewpoint (again, Sky News Australia):
"Cheap, safe"
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Good point about how droplets can spread. I agree with that. However, according to the Dark Elf (Fauci) himself, epidemics are not driven by the asymptomatic. It is the green in the gills, sick/symptomatic people that drive an epidemic. People that are sick really should stay at home. (duh!) I don't know if he's flip-flopped on that lately because he's really good at the flip-flopping.Comment -
At this point, I get most of my information from physicians, or from conferences such as SCAI or TCT.And you get your facts/data from? The Lancet maybe? Back in August, Sky News Australia did a piece on HCQ. (I have to get my USA news from non-USA sources these days and I find SNA trustworthy).
They claim the opposite of what you claim and even if it is partly true about sometimes complications from heart arrhythmia, I think if you really looked into it, you'd find that HCQ has probably saved more lives than taken by a monster ratio.
Here's another viewpoint (again, Sky News Australia):
"Cheap, safe"
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Good point about how droplets can spread. I agree with that. However, according to the Dark Elf (Fauci) himself, epidemics are not driven by the asymptomatic. It is the green in the gills, sick/symptomatic people that drive an epidemic. People that are sick really should stay at home. (duh!) I don't know if he's flip-flopped on that lately because he's really good at the flip-flopping.
Ya I wont argue with you about hcq having its place in medicine and when used correctly on the right patient subset, Im sure it has a great safety profile. I just dont want to see people rushing out to get hcq without at minimum an ekg to rule out prolonged qt interval because it can be fatal that subset of individuals.
Beyond that, I dont know much about treating covid with hcq in a normal patient population. I know studies have been done but I dont know the conclusions.Comment
