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  • Buckandadime
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 04-21-15
    • 8874

    #1
    Please explain this
    Why are the coronavirus hospital updates being rerouted from first going to the CDC (Center for Disease Control) to now directly going to the trump administration?
    Is this so the numbers can be manipulated and we can be thoroughly lied to?
    What has happened here????
  • carolinakid
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-12-11
    • 19117

    #2
    it about the money the states get from the government big time
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    • pavyracer
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 04-12-07
      • 82662

      #3
      If everyone is tested today the real number of infections will skyrocket. Keeping testing to a minimum helps Trump's cause.
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      • Buckandadime
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 04-21-15
        • 8874

        #4
        Originally posted by carolinakid
        it about the money the states get from the government big time
        Originally posted by pavyracer
        If everyone is tested today the real number of infections will skyrocket. Keeping testing to a minimum helps Trump's cause.
        This is what I truly don't understand guys..
        Why can't everyone get on the same FUKKING page and try and get rid of this?
        If the numbers are manipulated then the govt saves the almighty dollar but at what expense?
        We will be lulled into a false sense of security..
        I just can't wrap my head around the logic of death vs money..
        Guess I'm not very bright..
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        • MinnesotaFats
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 12-18-10
          • 14781

          #5
          There is absolutely zero additional Federal funding for Covid death certificates.

          The Denver Post investigated this theory in May.

          Medicare recipients of course get 75% of Covid treatment paid by taxpayers, but that's with every form of treatment.

          ALSO, the reporting doesn't go to Trump lol, it goes to HHS to streamline new guidelines going forward since the CDC and Fauci have made statements on both sides of many issues these past 90 days.

          It is clear the CDC is incompetent and irrelevant. It looks like, going forward and in a big push to FORCE economic growth come August and September (including school openings) HHS and the National Gaurd, in connection with local health services, are going to streamline the testing process to test EVERYONE in the next 100 days.
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          • Buckandadime
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 04-21-15
            • 8874

            #6
            Call me pessimistic but we are in our 5th month(?) of testing and have tested 41 million but in the next 3 months we are gonna test everyone?
            288 million in 100 days?
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            • DwightShrute
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 01-17-09
              • 101248

              #7
              Originally posted by pavyracer
              If everyone is tested today the real number of infections will skyrocket. Keeping testing to a minimum helps Trump's cause.
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              • HockeyRocks
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 07-10-13
                • 6069

                #8
                Originally posted by Buckandadime
                Why are the coronavirus hospital updates being rerouted from first going to the CDC (Center for Disease Control) to now directly going to the trump administration?
                Is this so the numbers can be manipulated and we can be thoroughly lied to?
                What has happened here????
                Come on!!!! Its all about Sleazebag Don and his minions controlling everything. Sleazebag wants to control these numbers to make himself look bvetter. Many Red State Gov., like Kemp and DeSantis have already been busted for lying about the numbers. You don't see this manipulation???
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                • DwightShrute
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-17-09
                  • 101248

                  #9
                  Originally posted by HockeyRocks
                  Come on!!!! Its all about Sleazebag Don and his minions controlling everything. Sleazebag wants to control these numbers to make himself look bvetter. Many Red State Gov., like Kemp and DeSantis have already been busted for lying about the numbers. You don't see this manipulation???
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                  • The Kraken
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 12-25-11
                    • 29085

                    #10
                    Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                    There is absolutely zero additional Federal funding for Covid death certificates.

                    The Denver Post investigated this theory in May.

                    Medicare recipients of course get 75% of Covid treatment paid by taxpayers, but that's with every form of treatment.

                    ALSO, the reporting doesn't go to Trump lol, it goes to HHS to streamline new guidelines going forward since the CDC and Fauci have made statements on both sides of many issues these past 90 days.

                    It is clear the CDC is incompetent and irrelevant. It looks like, going forward and in a big push to FORCE economic growth come August and September (including school openings) HHS and the National Gaurd, in connection with local health services, are going to streamline the testing process to test EVERYONE in the next 100 days.
                    Faucis opinion has evolved with the science. None of us knew anything about this virus 90 days ago.

                    Fauci originally said there was no evidence masks were beneficial and at that time he was correct, there was no evidence. He was also concerned about the ppe supply chain so medical providers were protected first.

                    Dont act like he has been flip flopping on issues regarding covid bc he has not, hes been straight forward. If you think he has then give the example with the exact full quote
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                    • HockeyRocks
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 07-10-13
                      • 6069

                      #11
                      You have to be one fukking idiot if you believe ANYTHING that comes out of Donald Trumps mouth about ANYTHING when it comes to the Covid-19 National Health Disaster that Americans are dealing with. If you do, take another swig of Clorox ya fukking fool.
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                      • HockeyRocks
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 07-10-13
                        • 6069

                        #12
                        Originally posted by The Kraken
                        Faucis opinion has evolved with the science. None of us knew anything about this virus 90 days ago.

                        Fauci originally said there was no evidence masks were beneficial and at that time he was correct, there was no evidence. He was also concerned about the ppe supply chain so medical providers were protected first.

                        Dont act like he has been flip flopping on issues regarding covid bc he has not, hes been straight forward. If you think he has then give the example with the exact full quote
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                        • DwightShrute
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-17-09
                          • 101248

                          #13
                          Originally posted by HockeyRocks
                          You have to be one fukking idiot if you believe ANYTHING that comes out of Donald Trumps mouth about ANYTHING when it comes to the Covid-19 National Health Disaster that Americans are dealing with. If you do, take another swig of Clorox ya fukking fool.
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                          • HockeyRocks
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 07-10-13
                            • 6069

                            #14
                            Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                            There is absolutely zero additional Federal funding for Covid death certificates.

                            The Denver Post investigated this theory in May.

                            Medicare recipients of course get 75% of Covid treatment paid by taxpayers, but that's with every form of treatment.

                            ALSO, the reporting doesn't go to Trump lol, it goes to HHS to streamline new guidelines going forward since the CDC and Fauci have made statements on both sides of many issues these past 90 days.

                            It is clear the CDC is incompetent and irrelevant. It looks like, going forward and in a big push to FORCE economic growth come August and September (including school openings) HHS and the National Gaurd, in connection with local health services, are going to streamline the testing process to test EVERYONE in the next 100 days.
                            BTW, Medicare is an 80% reimbursemt for Medicare recipients. BTW, The number reporting going to HHS is no different than if it was going directly to the WH...HHS minions will release those numbers to Trump and whatever Trump releasers will ONLY make Trump look good.
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                            • Buckandadime
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 04-21-15
                              • 8874

                              #15
                              Our governor revealed this morning that he is positive..
                              Wonder if he ends up being hospitalized, if that will change our states guidelines and requirements?
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                              • Buckandadime
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 04-21-15
                                • 8874

                                #16
                                One HUGE thing about the CDC not getting the info now is that there is no longer access to the numbers..
                                It's all hidden now..
                                Gonna be spoon fed the numbers so Dr's and Scientists will no longer be able to track how it is spreading...
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                                • DwightShrute
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-17-09
                                  • 101248

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by The Kraken
                                  Faucis opinion has evolved with the science. None of us knew anything about this virus 90 days ago.

                                  Fauci originally said there was no evidence masks were beneficial and at that time he was correct, there was no evidence. He was also concerned about the ppe supply chain so medical providers were protected first.

                                  Dont act like he has been flip flopping on issues regarding covid bc he has not, hes been straight forward. If you think he has then give the example with the exact full quote
                                  first of all, its been way more than 90 days now. Fauci is just one guy on a team of people and he's gotten a lot of things wrong. As have many people. This Wuhan virus is new for everyone. Fauci also said we should never shake hands again and that its ok to hook up with someone on Tinder several months ago.

                                  What you doing is what fake news does much of the time. You are purposely sticking up for Fauci and thus giving the lunatics, a perceived opportunity to to shift the blame onto Trump and Trump alone. Look at hockeyrocks for example. He will always take the bait as will vitterd but he probably just hasn't seen it yet. Once he does, he will say his usual "Trump is responsible for 135,000 deaths" like he has hundreds of times now.

                                  In summarizing, Fauci has been wrong and right, continues to be wrong and right, is evolving because of science but still will be wrong and right.

                                  Lastly, China lied and people died. Trump closed travel from China in Jan against the advice of everyone and while the dems were carrying out a sham impeachment. Trump's action literally saves countless lives. Maybe hundreds of thousands.
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                                  • vitterd
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 09-14-17
                                    • 59265

                                    #18
                                    Trumpvirus is killing. Every death is because trump was elected. That’s just fact.
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                                    • The Kraken
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 12-25-11
                                      • 29085

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                      first of all, its been way more than 90 days now. Fauci is just one guy on a team of people and he's gotten a lot of things wrong. As have many people. This Wuhan virus is new for everyone. Fauci also said we should never shake hands again and that its ok to hook up with someone on Tinder several months ago.

                                      What you doing is what fake news does much of the time. You are purposely sticking up for Fauci and thus giving the lunatics, a perceived opportunity to to shift the blame onto Trump and Trump alone. Look at hockeyrocks for example. He will always take the bait as will vitterd but he probably just hasn't seen it yet. Once he does, he will say his usual "Trump is responsible for 135,000 deaths" like he has hundreds of times now.

                                      In summarizing, Fauci has been wrong and right, continues to be wrong and right, is evolving because of science but still will be wrong and right.

                                      Lastly, China lied and people died. Trump closed travel from China in Jan against the advice of everyone and while the dems were carrying out a sham impeachment. Trump's action literally saves countless lives. Maybe hundreds of thousands.
                                      It has been more than 90 days and a lot of what Fauci said was early on when we/he didnt know much about Covid, and he said that many times. He has been transparent from the beginning that his opinions would evolve as he learned more about the virus and thats the only and best way to approach matters such as these

                                      In full context, he said you can hook up wiyh someone from Tinder if they’re asymptomatic and you’re willing to accept the risk. I dont see the problem with that statement. It acknowledges that most people don’t have Covid, it acknowledges that to some degree life must go on and if you’re going to hook up atleast be smart and pick someone asymptomatic. Lastly it statss that hooking up is not without risk so just know you have to accept it.

                                      As for shaking hands, he has not flip flopped on that and its his personal opinion. Not sure what there is to argue about that point. He’s speaking from an infectious disease standpoint and we know most viruses are spread through interactions with the hands and eventually touching the face. So he’s not wrong but either way its just his opinion as a specialist in ID

                                      He has done everything he should have up to this point and the matter of the fact is Trump is just trying to hang him out to dry to save his own arse. Thats what people at tbe top do. But its not working so well with Fauci bc Fauci is pretty just following the best scientific evidence we have to guide his statements.

                                      As for China, I dont really have an opinion. Theres a lot none of us know and until we know more its hard to be informed.
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                                      • hehfest
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 09-28-08
                                        • 8085

                                        #20
                                        Perhaps, this is mostly a trick and they just wanted to give everyone a nice long-term vacation from working?


                                        I do miss HurryUpAndDon'tPanic. A good fukker.
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                                        • Axman3000
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 10-29-14
                                          • 382

                                          #21
                                          The data being passed around by "unbiased" experts is REALLY off and it's going to have something to do with that. Remember, that the WHO just changed where they got their initial information from "China" to " the internet". Where is the CDC on that? The most comprehensive study on Hydroxychloroquine showing it works? Let's not mention it. The % of deaths is dropping? Let's focus on tallying numbers and not focus on %'s. Let's make our decisions on science? Mental health of children isn't science if it has to do with Trump. There is something going on and I honestly don't trust anything coming out of state agencies.
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                                          • hostile takeover
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-06-09
                                            • 2259

                                            #22
                                            If only the Donald had discussed protecting Americans from the Chinese Coronavirus before most people even knew what it was ... like maybe at the State of the Union?

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