doctors are fudging the death numbers on both sides, depending on states

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  • homie1975
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    • 12-24-13
    • 15452

    #1
    doctors are fudging the death numbers on both sides, depending on states
    some of you know this some of you may not: if a patient was NOT a known positive COVID but she/he passes away before getting tested, and the doc thinks the characteristics were those of a positive COVID, the doc can put COVID on the death cert as the cause of death. a doctor who sees all the earmarks of COVID can also rule it out. they have a lot of power.

    i believe Blue state doctors are inflating their death numbers whenever possible. I believe Red state doctors are deflating theirs whenever possible.

    the net result? probably cancels each other out so you can trust the numbers for the most part..

  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #2
    I never heard of that without an autopsy , Basically just a doctor bail out
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    • Booya711
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      • 12-20-11
      • 27329

      #3
      Yes this has been a known practice since March. If a hospital can claim a death as Covid related then they get money from the government. Covid is all politics and money
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      • homie1975
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        • 12-24-13
        • 15452

        #4
        Originally posted by Booya711
        Yes this has been a known practice since March. If a hospital can claim a death as Covid related then they get money from the government. Covid is all politics and money
        Did you know know that Covid patients cost more money to the hospital?
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        • 2daBank
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          • 01-26-09
          • 88966

          #5
          Originally posted by Booya711
          Yes this has been a known practice since March. If a hospital can claim a death as Covid related then they get money from the government. Covid is all politics and money
          They do the same thing with the prison/justice system, states get extra money for housing violent criminals so you have a bunch of guys in some states out working unsupervised and being housed at minimum type security camps yet are designated violent criminals which gets state money plus increases length of the sentences. I know in Mississippi any sort of intent to sell a drug is considered a violent crime, lol. Some straight up garbage.
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          • homie1975
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            • 12-24-13
            • 15452

            #6
            I have medical professionals in my circle. It costs more to keep a COVID patient than not so that's why those hospitals get extra money. It's not charity and extra revenue where those hospitals are making extra money. It's going to expenses
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            • Ghenghis Kahn
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              • 01-02-12
              • 19734

              #7
              Covid19 deaths are fudged up bullshit. Listen to this honest doctor that's being investigated...

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              • Ghenghis Kahn
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                • 01-02-12
                • 19734

                #8
                Originally posted by homie1975
                I have medical professionals in my circle. It costs more to keep a COVID patient than not so that's why those hospitals get extra money. It's not charity and extra revenue where those hospitals are making extra money. It's going to expenses
                That's the original intent but the hospitals are blatantly lying about Covid deaths. If someone dies from heart disease, for example, but was SARS-CoV-2 positive, they'll write on the death certificate as Covid death. It's criminal what they're doing.
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                • PAULYPOKER
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                  • 12-06-08
                  • 36581

                  #9
                  Numbers are being fudged both ways depending on the political motive.
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                  • PAULYPOKER
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                    • 12-06-08
                    • 36581

                    #10
                    Just like everyone here is touting their belief of number count depending on their political ideology.

                    Everyone is full of shit.
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                    • Booya711
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                      • 12-20-11
                      • 27329

                      #11
                      Originally posted by homie1975

                      Did you know know that Covid patients cost more money to the hospital?
                      They cost more because they are canceling all money making elective procedures due to this nonsense. Do you know that a patient with no insurance dies in a hospital..the hospital eats that cost? If they can call it a Covid death then the hospital receives money instead of eating it.

                      i do agree with you that living Covid patients are a burden to a hospital since they are denying any other patients from receiving needed procedures. This is why the Covid patients cost more.
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                      • Ghenghis Kahn
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                        • 01-02-12
                        • 19734

                        #12
                        Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                        Just like everyone here is touting their belief of number count depending on their political ideology.

                        Everyone is full of shit.
                        LOL... Stay under a rock and never leave. Also wear your mask indoors, you don't want to reinfect your nasty self again.

                        FYI, I'm neither left, right, or middle...
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                        • homie1975
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                          • 12-24-13
                          • 15452

                          #13
                          I'm sorry but just look at the death rates in the top 11 infection wise total numbers and it's clear the Red states are way lower lol

                          FL
                          TX
                          AZ
                          GA
                          NC

                          hilariously low death numbers even though each of these are over 89K infected

                          The blue states way higher? Politics? Okay, then it's happening on BOTH sides not just one.
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                          • homie1975
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                            • 12-24-13
                            • 15452

                            #14
                            Ray charles can see what's going on

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                            • Slipknot26
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                              • 07-17-15
                              • 5046

                              #15
                              3 states are 42% of the US total deaths , fukkin 3
                              New York
                              New Jersey
                              Massachusetts
                              Moving on
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                              • homie1975
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 12-24-13
                                • 15452

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Slipknot26
                                3 states are 42% of the US total deaths , fukkin 3
                                New York
                                New Jersey
                                Massachusetts
                                Moving on
                                Ny and NJ got hit first. And they're 40.57% of the deaths to be clear. Let's see how it looks on 8/31. They'll be much lower than 40%
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                                • Hot Jerry
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                                  • 08-16-13
                                  • 5545

                                  #17
                                  Go to any hospital and see it with your own eyes and for ur self !! Promise u , you will cry walking out of there !! Then tell us how the IDIOT that we have in white clown house [ trump ] is telling us the truth - "dont worry people we have it [ C19 ] under control" . FUKEN - LIES - LIES and MORE LIES !!
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                                  • mjsuax13
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                                    • 03-14-15
                                    • 25095

                                    #18
                                    Follow the money always.
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                                    • Goat Milk
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                                      • 03-24-10
                                      • 25850

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                      That's the original intent but the hospitals are blatantly lying about Covid deaths. If someone dies from heart disease, for example, but was SARS-CoV-2 positive, they'll write on the death certificate as Covid death. It's criminal what they're doing.
                                      The video you just posted said that the CDC changed those guidelines.... So are you saying "they write it" or "they used to write on the death certificate"
                                      Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                      • Goat Milk
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                                        • 03-24-10
                                        • 25850

                                        #20
                                        Here are the main things

                                        1. Covid 19 isn't just about death. It could cause long term damage to your body. If you don't care, then do whatever you want. Have a covid party in that case.

                                        2. Covid 19 isn't the flu, and isn't close to it. I agree with a lot of what that doctor said, but one thing I don't is that it is the flu. I know multiple people personally now that have died from Covid. I don't know anyone who's died from the flu personally. I know people personally who were on ventilators and made it out. Do as many ppl who are on the flu go on ventilators? The answer is no, because there was NEVER a shortage of those during flu season, until Covid came along, and then we were scrambling for equipment.


                                        Anyone who think covid is still the flu after all this....you cannot be helped, and you will find out the hard way when you finally know people who start getting affected.

                                        Should we shut down the whole economy? No.

                                        It's not fair? Well yeah, too bad. It's not fair for a lot of us.

                                        It wasn't fair in 2008 when some lost everything in the stock market. Literally.

                                        It wasn't fair when millions of americans died from the spanish flu because they couldn't get treatment.

                                        It's not fair that Jeff Bezos has 200 billion dollars after cutting out some of the masterminds behind his company.

                                        Life is not fair.

                                        Be a good person and you'll get entrance into an after life that shits on this one.
                                        Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                        • fried cheese
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                                          • 09-17-13
                                          • 4461

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                          The video you just posted said that the CDC changed those guidelines.... So are you saying "they write it" or "they used to write on the death certificate"
                                          i remember him saying that the minnesota department of health changed but i dont remember him saying that the cdc changed.
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                                          • homie1975
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 12-24-13
                                            • 15452

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by fried cheese
                                            i remember him saying that the minnesota department of health changed but i dont remember him saying that the cdc changed.
                                            if a doctor can make her/his own determination and mark COVID as the death reason even though the deceased did not have a positive test before dying, then doctors can also make her/his own determination and even if all of the earmarks of a COVID death are there, it can be marked as something else.

                                            IMO - Blue States overinflating Covid deaths. Red States underinflating.

                                            very little question about it in my mind. that's why you see death rates vs infection total so much higher in Blue states than Red ones. both sides are full of SHITT

                                            and i don't want to hear that in AZ, TX and FL it is mostly young people catching it that's why the death rate is <2%. that is a bunch of horse kaka
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                                            • PAULYPOKER
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                                              • 12-06-08
                                              • 36581

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                              LOL... Stay under a rock and never leave. Also wear your mask indoors, you don't want to reinfect your nasty self again.

                                              FYI, I'm neither left, right, or middle...
                                              The fact you insulted me with ridicule and nervous laughter proves my point.

                                              Especially proving my point as I didn't Quote you in my post that you quoted
                                              and delivered your attack on me.

                                              You have an ideology as you parroted your "belief of COVID19" from a political source.
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