Imagine a world where from 1619 to 1865 everyone w the last name JOHNSON was a slave in one section of the country but a civil war ended the slavery however in 2020 over 150Y later there were ppl still waving the flag that represented the slavery? Do u think ppl w the last name JOHNSON would be a little angry today? I advise anyone who doesn't get this, to insert their own last name in place of JOHNSON and see how it feels. They'll get real quiet real quick
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Not much better than a Nazi flag in my bookComment -
True.Originally posted by FoxxComment -
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
I don't disagree with you but there comes a point where you shouldn't white-wash history. No pun intended.
The Germans left some concentration camps so people would never forget. The Jews were in agreement with the decision.
It is amazing the US can't get over the civil war that started in 1860?Comment -
Mike you're talking apples a d oranges. Keeping concentration camps as historical landmarks and museum does not equate with flying Confederate flags with pride all over the south.Originally posted by Mike Huntertz
Would Jews be okay with nazi flags flown at sporting events? I don't think so.
The Confederate flag is insulting to black people. That's it. It needs to go.Comment -
Democratic party should own up to the history they have with the Confederate flag.Originally posted by homie1975Comment -
Isn't free speech constitutionally protected?Originally posted by homie1975
You cant compare the Confederate flag to the Nazi flag. One represented a fight for self independence, the other suppression of free thought and tolerance.
To outlaw or be upset about the Confederate flag is to fail to understand blacks had no rights under the Union flag either.Comment -
If I have a business (nascar for instance) and I dont want your flag flying, guess what, it's not going to fly.Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
You dont see union flags flying, you see USA flags flyingComment -
You're saying you want to ban out outlaw the Confederate flag.... you can't just do that lol.Originally posted by homie1975
It's an expression of the idea of the CSA to some, the Virginia military to others, to states rights to some and to a more sophisticated caste society to others.
Nascar can cease flying them at their events, their fans still will...we all know that, and there's nothing Nascar is or can do to stop it short of stopping admission to events. There's still gonna be guys showing up in their version of the General Lee, chicks wearing tight shirts w CSA flags on it...it's their culture and heritage and what they believe in.
Trying to exclusively link the Confederate flag to slavery is ridiculous, same with that statue argument...it would be akin to saying "let's level the pyramids too, they were built by slaves as well" or "let's tear down the Coliseum because slaves fought in there".
The continuation of this debate and argument about history, context and "feelings" get dumber and dumber the more the left stretches it's premise to include comparisons to Nazis now and supression of ideas, which ironically is what National Socialism is at it's most basic point.Comment -
Most white folks don't get it. I'm not black but I get it. We forgive your ignorance.
Nascar banned the confed flag so I'm right here.Comment -
300,000 white people died in the civil war fighting for the rights of slavesOriginally posted by homie1975
so no... not every white person owned slaves, and yes some blacks owned slavesComment -
And that's fine, but how are you going to "ban" a flag that 100 million Americans wants to use to Express themselves?Originally posted by homie1975
Banning things, ideas and contact is oppression. It's naive to think you've bettered your life by "erasing the imagery as you see it" of oppression by imposing the shackles of another form of oppression.Comment -
Bravo to NASCARComment -
Slavery occurred under the Star and Stripes as well as the Union Jack; should those flags be banned too?Comment -
give the "woke mob" an inch and they'll take a mile
next will be banning of prayer before race... then banning of national anthem... then at least 1/2 the drivers will have to be people of color... then the other half will have to be lgbtq... then the announcers will have to be gender neutral... then the cameraman will have to fart rainbows and wear a blm shirtComment -
Send your query to nascar. Right now the confed flag banned.Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
Big statement there.Comment -
I don't watch much NASCAR but I'm boycotting it if they keep the ban in place.Comment -
Yes for killing themselvesOriginally posted by homie1975Comment -
That's just it.Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
The movement lost all it's credibility with the looting and the statues argument.
Tear down the Washington Monument lol
GTFOHComment -
Tear down all racist Shite.Comment -
Lady has a few topics on pointOriginally posted by JayTris07
I like she referenced past community situations where black home ownership and store ownership was self sustaining. That's what we need, that's who should be black community leaders and voters.
I didn't understand her reference to "they burn it down" or "they dont like it and change the rules" when referencing her playing theoretical monopoly. "THEY" would be (in Minnesota) a DFL gov, 2 DFL senators, a DFL us rep, a DFL council and DFL mayor and black DFL police chief? NYC DiBlasio and Cuomo....Seattle black woman police chief and Democrat female mayor and council?
That's where this movement loses my attention. Black Americans vote 90% lock stock for Democrats and live in one party cities. This woman has no point of view to contrast her convictions yet references conservative ideals, but likely would rather shit in her hands and clap than cast a vote for a GOP member.
As to the economic situation of black Americans...I've got 14 payday and cash advance shops. Let's just say the black woman doesn't shop very smart, the black male doesn't prioritize. When you spend $800 / mo at the gas station for groceries that would cost $500 at WalMart you've got a self created issue.Comment -
Some think so, what of Presidents who owned slaves???Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
Washington had 300+ We got some money to change and a capital to re-name and a state.....streets, schools etc.
Jefferson had 600+ slaves. There is the declaration of independence that needs some white out....no pun intended.
Madison, Monroe, Jackson, Grant......a lot of history to clean out of the school books.
No flags, no names, nothing to do with the ugly past......we'll forget about it.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
People phucked up putting this great country together.....let it go.Comment -
breakdown of society right before our eyes
"What we’re really watching here is a massive, nationwide brainwashing re-education camp that’s turning white people into spineless idiots who are so weak and pathetic, they aren’t even willing to defend their own language, borders, culture or nation."
https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-06-...oyd-riots.htmlComment -
next friday would be renamed Johnsonteenth !!Comment -
Of course you can compare the Nazi flag to the Confederate flag. Obviously, they represent very different ideologies, but just as you can't really disassociate the Nazi flag from the persecution of the Jews among other atrocities, I don't see how you can divorce the Confederate flag from the centuries long enslavement of millions and a war fought to protect that heinous institution.Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
Regarding the Union flag you mentioned , although blacks were systematically oppressed under that flag as well, under that same flag, slavery was abolished and civil right expanded democratically.
I staunchly agree that private display of whatever flag shouldn't be outlawed. However, I can certainly see why it upsets people.Comment -
Anyone acting entitled or butthurt over someone else flying a flag needs to deal with that outrage themselves.Originally posted by homie1975
It's a snowflake attitude saying which ideas/symbols/flags should be policed. And is the main cause of the division. Pandering to the PC crowd.
Sure, ban govt institutions from honoring people or things if the community wants that... but keep yer damn thought police away from my personal ideas and opinions pal..Comment -
Originally posted by milwaukee mike
Gotta agree, MikeComment -
Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
Ditto for me, (except I watch(ed)) nascarComment -
again, NASCAR banned the confed flag from flying at their events. the decision was made and Boom mutherphukkers!
if you don't like the decision, don't watch. they won't miss you, trust me. the fans they gained will replace those of you they lost. nobody cares about you.Comment