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  • Sanity Check
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    • 03-30-13
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    #1
    Bible history and the present
    1 Samuel 8 New International Version (NIV)


    10
    Samuel told all the words of the Lord to the people who were asking him for a king. 11 He said, “This is what the king who will reign over you will claim as his rights: ....you yourselves will become his slaves. 18 When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, but the Lord will not answer you in that day.”


    19 But the people refused to listen to Samuel. “No!” they said. “We want a king over us. 20 Then we will be like all the other nations


    * * *


    The above is a classic illustration of the human tendency to support trendy bad ideas.

    Over good ideas that are smart or true.

    Looking at the past 50 years of history. Every problem ranging from deficits to taxes, wages, job markets, poverty, homelessness, drugs, reduced standard of living, war. All of these issues were caused by people supporting and voting for what is trendy.

    How do we break this negative cycle?
  • maggiethebestdog
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    • 12-21-13
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    #2
    Originally posted by Sanity Check
    1 Samuel 8 New International Version (NIV)


    10
    Samuel told all the words of the Lord to the people who were asking him for a king. 11 He said, “This is what the king who will reign over you will claim as his rights: ....you yourselves will become his slaves. 18 When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, but the Lord will not answer you in that day.”


    19 But the people refused to listen to Samuel. “No!” they said. “We want a king over us. 20 Then we will be like all the other nations


    * * *


    The above is a classic illustration of the human tendency to support trendy bad ideas.

    Over good ideas that are smart or true.

    Looking at the past 50 years of history. Every problem ranging from deficits to taxes, wages, job markets, poverty, homelessness, drugs, reduced standard of living, war. All of these issues were caused by people supporting and voting for what is trendy.

    How do we break this negative cycle?
    Stop believing in urban myths and mythology that has no basis in reality and is used to control, manipulate and divide the masses???
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    • Sanity Check
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      • 03-30-13
      • 10973

      #3
      Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
      Stop believing in urban myths and mythology that has no basis in reality and is used to control, manipulate and divide the masses???


      Imagine.

      2000+ years ago, monarchy was a trendy and horrible idea.

      Let's say socialism is a trendy and horrible idea, right now.

      The only reason people support things like monarchy and socialism is trendiness. Wanting to support and follow the same bad ideas, they see foreigners in other countries doing.

      Wouldn't that be something like a deep observation of human nature.
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      • turbobets
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 01-13-06
        • 987

        #4
        Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
        Stop believing in urban myths and mythology that has no basis in reality and is used to control, manipulate and divide the masses???
        Did you even bother to read past the first line of the post??? Some are so eager to attack.
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        • cincinnatikid513
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 11-23-17
          • 45365

          #5
          bible great fiction book
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          • maggiethebestdog
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            • 12-21-13
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            #6
            Originally posted by turbobets
            Did you even bother to read past the first line of the post??? Some are so eager to attack.
            Uhhhhhhhhhhhh, yeah
            Did you????

            He is using bible quotes that he believes forecasted what keeps happening in society, that people foolishly follow things impulsively that are trendy

            I merely pointed out that the bible, a fictional book, is the most followed and trendy impulsive human ideal that has ever existed, and has lead to more human misery than any other concept in history

            See the irony?????????
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            • stevenash
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              • 01-17-11
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              #7
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              • turbobets
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 01-13-06
                • 987

                #8
                Maybe it is fiction? So now we should never quote books of fiction to make a point.
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                • BigDofBA
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                  • 09-30-09
                  • 19313

                  #9
                  If you aren’t a virgin or work on Sundays, you shouldn’t exist according to the Bible.

                  Sad
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                  • dustyy
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-08-17
                    • 2458

                    #10
                    Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                    bible great fiction book
                    Not gonna knock it but they lost me when anything but lights out, missionary position only is considered sodomy. Not only will a bj buy you a ticket to hell, it will also get you busted in Georgia.

                    A little sarcasm but amazingly, not too far from the truth
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                    • themike78
                      SBR MVP
                      • 07-01-13
                      • 4883

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Sanity Check
                      1 Samuel 8 New International Version (NIV)


                      10
                      Samuel told all the words of the Lord to the people who were asking him for a king. 11 He said, “This is what the king who will reign over you will claim as his rights: ....you yourselves will become his slaves. 18 When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, but the Lord will not answer you in that day.”


                      19 But the people refused to listen to Samuel. “No!” they said. “We want a king over us. 20 Then we will be like all the other nations


                      * * *


                      The above is a classic illustration of the human tendency to support trendy bad ideas.

                      Over good ideas that are smart or true.

                      Looking at the past 50 years of history. Every problem ranging from deficits to taxes, wages, job markets, poverty, homelessness, drugs, reduced standard of living, war. All of these issues were caused by people supporting and voting for what is trendy.

                      How do we break this negative cycle?
                      The message is clear we need Trump for 4 more years. Keep America great.
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                      • maggiethebestdog
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                        • 12-21-13
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by turbobets
                        Maybe it is fiction? So now we should never quote books of fiction to make a point.
                        LOL
                        C'mon man

                        This is not some everyday fictional book
                        You are being disingenuous

                        This fictional book is what the US has been based on and people live their lives by it

                        It would be funny if it wasn't so destructive

                        So no, you can't use this fictional book to make a point because it is the actual origination of the problem he is referring to

                        Nice try



                        Try Tom Sawyer
                        To my knowledge there have been no crimes against humanity and mass murders because of it
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                        • Sanity Check
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                          • 03-30-13
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                          I merely pointed out that the bible, a fictional book, is the most followed and trendy impulsive human ideal that has ever existed, and has lead to more human misery than any other concept in history

                          Trendy atheist fairy tales ^.

                          With zero basis in reality.





                          There's nothing that says atheism is smart or even valid.

                          Its just trendy. Like everything else today that is bad for people.
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                          • maggiethebestdog
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Sanity Check
                            Trendy atheist fairy tales ^.

                            With zero basis in reality.





                            There's nothing that says atheism is smart or even valid.

                            Its just trendy. Like everything else today that is bad for people.
                            LOL
                            I'm not an atheist
                            How predictable on your part

                            That's the problem with people of faith and believers of a benevolent God represented in man's writings
                            You think in absolutes where there are none that any man knows

                            Atheists do the same thing

                            You all must have an answer, so you will accept absurdities as your answer

                            Your rationale thought has been removed

                            Those who accept absurdities are destined to commit atrocities

                            My beliefs are not absolute and are just that, beliefs

                            I would never pretend to have the answers in the absence of definitive proof

                            That would be insane

                            You are a product of herd thinking, delusion, cult brainwashing, and out right fraud

                            When someone doesn't have to have an answer to something, rationale and logical thought determine their beliefs

                            When someone must have the answer to everything, they will believe anything, whether rationale or not

                            The reason why religious, faith based and atheist people form groups of the same ideals, and recruit others to join them, is because deep down inside they are insecure about their beliefs
                            Safety in numbers helps to gloss over the doubts

                            Psych 101
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                            • Sanity Check
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                              • 03-30-13
                              • 10973

                              #15
                              Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                              You are a product of herd thinking, delusion, cult brainwashing, and out right fraud

                              My approach to religion and politics resembles mixed martial arts.

                              I threw everything I could find into a cage to figure out what is real and what isn't.

                              The only one reciting shallow platitudes and oversimplistic stereotypes to compensate for lack of knowledge or experience is you.


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                              • maggiethebestdog
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                                • 12-21-13
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                My approach to religion and politics resembles mixed martial arts.

                                I threw everything I could find into a cage to figure out what is real and what isn't.

                                The only one reciting shallow platitudes and oversimplistic stereotypes to compensate for lack of knowledge or experience is you.


                                Yes, my posts are very simplistic while yours are very well thought out


                                LOL

                                Especially that MMA analogy
                                Its hard to argue with wisdom like that

                                You can't even debate rationally

                                I know you have absolute knowledge and experience of what has happened since the beginning of time, what is happening now, at what will happen for eternity

                                And why and how it has, is and will occur and the powers behind it all

                                I'm just jealous I'm not that knowledgeable
                                You caught me


                                Like I said, absurdities
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                                • juicername
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                                  • 10-14-15
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                  LOL
                                  I'm not an atheist
                                  How predictable on your part

                                  That's the problem with people of faith and believers of a benevolent God represented in man's writings
                                  You think in absolutes where there are none that any man knows

                                  Atheists do the same thing

                                  You all must have an answer, so you will accept absurdities as your answer

                                  Your rationale thought has been removed

                                  Those who accept absurdities are destined to commit atrocities

                                  My beliefs are not absolute and are just that, beliefs

                                  I would never pretend to have the answers in the absence of definitive proof

                                  That would be insane

                                  You are a product of herd thinking, delusion, cult brainwashing, and out right fraud

                                  When someone doesn't have to have an answer to something, rationale and logical thought determine their beliefs

                                  When someone must have the answer to everything, they will believe anything, whether rationale or not

                                  The reason why religious, faith based and atheist people form groups of the same ideals, and recruit others to join them, is because deep down inside they are insecure about their beliefs
                                  Safety in numbers helps to gloss over the doubts

                                  Psych 101
                                  Liking you sometimes.
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                                  • Sanity Check
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                                    • 03-30-13
                                    • 10973

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                    I would never pretend to have the answers in the absence of definitive proof
                                    That would be insane
                                    "I would never pretend to have all the answers, that would be insane!"

                                    Remember when you pretended to have all the answers right here:


                                    Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                    I merely pointed out that the bible, a fictional book, is the most followed and trendy impulsive human ideal that has ever existed, and has lead to more human misery than any other concept in history

                                    See the irony?????????

                                    Do the world a favor and stfu until you achieve some degree of consistency and coherence.


                                    You're not honest enough with yourself to discuss these topics.
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                                    • Vikings2
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                                      • 08-14-07
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                                      #19
                                      666
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                                      • BeatTheJerk
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                                        • 08-19-07
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                                        #20
                                        999
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                                        • turbobets
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                                          • 01-13-06
                                          • 987

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                          LOL
                                          Try Tom Sawyer
                                          I almost wrote Tom Sawyer instead of books of fiction. Synchronicity? Not a promoter of religion but don't hate it and see no reason to knock others who practice. Argument could be made without it we would still be living in caves hitting each other over the head with clubs. OK that's a bit extreme but you get my point.
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                                          • BeatTheJerk
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                                            • 08-19-07
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                            "I would never pretend to have all the answers, that would be insane!"

                                            Remember when you pretended to have all the answers right here:




                                            Do the world a favor and stfu until you achieve some degree of consistency and coherence.


                                            You're not honest enough with yourself to discuss these topics.


                                            You better fuckin’ chime in Maggie, buddy has some dirt on you. I was having an argument/discussion with Optional regarding the same topic, & he basically said/verified that the Bible is a hoax as well.
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                                            • BeatTheJerk
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                                              #23
                                              I told Optional if you’re right and I’m wrong at the very least “Christ was sacrificed & he died for our sins” is a fairytale then we’re going to the same fuckin’ place no one wins. Although if he’s wrong well then perhaps read the Bible and find out
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                                              • maggiethebestdog
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                                                • 12-21-13
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                                                #24
                                                Facts are scary to the "faith" crowd

                                                When you introduce facts into the conversation, all of a sudden you are somehow guilty of being a know it all

                                                Cult 101
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                                                • hehfest
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                                                  #25
                                                  Jinping will move his army from 5g tower to 5g tower. That gives you 4 days. Maybe 5! I shall go to El Salvador. Will you come with me? Ahhhh...you are your father's son.
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                                                  • PittsburghPlayer
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                                                    #26
                                                    maggiethebestdog winner of thread
                                                    could be wrong, reading upside down

                                                    would not want to fight any of you men (for more than 3 or 4 seconds), disregard my comment, if anyone asks
                                                    I was not here

                                                    cool, thnx
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                                                    • BeatTheJerk
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by PittsburghPlayer
                                                      maggiethebestdog winner of thread
                                                      could be wrong, reading upside down

                                                      would not want to fight any of you men (for more than 3 or 4 seconds), disregard my comment, if anyone asks
                                                      I was not here

                                                      cool, thnx
                                                      Pitts is weird as fuk
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                                                      • hehfest
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                                                        • 09-28-08
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                                        Pitts is weird as fuk

                                                        Pitty is the boss. He should run for office, and I already know I will be his Campaign Finance Officer.


                                                        EDIT: You know what. I really think groups of SBR members could run a campaign. Get elected. And do better than any of these jackas*es that are in office. Pelosi, Whitmer, Newsom, Cuomo. Bunch of circus acts.
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                                                        • PittsburghPlayer
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                                                          #29

                                                          definitely weird, but I think the actual diagnosis was something other than weird
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                                                          • PittsburghPlayer
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by hehfest
                                                            Pitty is the boss. He should run for office, and I already know I will be his Campaign Finance Officer.
                                                            you will be receiving a letter from my attorney before the weekend

                                                            fukker is huge, told him that I had only some money to pay him for now until I make sale on this house and he was cool with that
                                                            can`t mention his name here, but he is on television in the movies all the time



                                                            funny and sad that people think you are a hateful prick based solely on your avatar
                                                            dumb-fukks
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                                                            • hehfest
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                                                              • 09-28-08
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by PittsburghPlayer
                                                              you will be receiving a letter from my attorney before the weekend

                                                              fukker is huge, told him that I had only some money to pay him for now until I make sale on this house and he was cool with that
                                                              can`t mention his name here, but he is on television in the movies all the time



                                                              funny and sad that people think you are a hateful prick based solely on your avatar
                                                              dumb-fukks
                                                              I was a dam builder, across the river deep and wide
                                                              Where steel and water did collide
                                                              A place called Boulder on the wild Colorado
                                                              I slipped and fell into the wet concrete below
                                                              They buried me in that great tomb that knows no sound
                                                              But I am still around, I'll always be around and around and around and Around and around
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                                                              • MinnesotaFats
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                                                                • 12-18-10
                                                                • 14781

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                                                1 Samuel 8 New International Version (NIV)


                                                                10
                                                                Samuel told all the words of the Lord to the people who were asking him for a king. 11 He said, “This is what the king who will reign over you will claim as his rights: ....you yourselves will become his slaves. 18 When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, but the Lord will not answer you in that day.”


                                                                19 But the people refused to listen to Samuel. “No!” they said. “We want a king over us. 20 Then we will be like all the other nations


                                                                * * *


                                                                The above is a classic illustration of the human tendency to support trendy bad ideas.

                                                                Over good ideas that are smart or true.

                                                                Looking at the past 50 years of history. Every problem ranging from deficits to taxes, wages, job markets, poverty, homelessness, drugs, reduced standard of living, war. All of these issues were caused by people supporting and voting for what is trendy.

                                                                How do we break this negative cycle?
                                                                You break it by restricting voting rights to white land owners.

                                                                Kinda like the founders did. They weren't stupid. They knew damn well that the peasants would vote themselves gifts from the treasury. That women would vote w emotion and irrational thought, that blacks would vote in unison based on race rather than idea.
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                                                                • Grits n' Gravy
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                                                  You break it by restricting voting rights to white land owners.

                                                                  Kinda like the founders did. They weren't stupid. They knew damn well that the peasants would vote themselves gifts from the treasury. That women would vote w emotion and irrational thought, that blacks would vote in unison based on race rather than idea.
                                                                  If that were to be The case we would put bullets in the heads of all white land owners, starting with you. World would be a much better place. Lots of free pale fertilizer.
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                                                                  • PittsburghPlayer
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                                                                    • 01-11-10
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    don`t tell anyone, but I said to myself that I know I know those words/lyrics, but had to google it to know that it was Johnny Cash and the Johnny Cashman band




                                                                    Originally posted by hehfest
                                                                    I was a dam builder, across the river deep and wide
                                                                    Where steel and water did collide
                                                                    A place called Boulder on the wild Colorado
                                                                    I slipped and fell into the wet concrete below
                                                                    They buried me in that great tomb that knows no sound
                                                                    But I am still around, I'll always be around and around and around and Around and around
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                                                                    • Sanity Check
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 03-30-13
                                                                      • 10973

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                                                      You break it by restricting voting rights to white land owners.

                                                                      Kinda like the founders did. They weren't stupid. They knew damn well that the peasants would vote themselves gifts from the treasury. That women would vote w emotion and irrational thought, that blacks would vote in unison based on race rather than idea.

                                                                      Weren't white land owners responsible for supporting the 1st and 2nd US central banks, the federal reserve, income taxes. They supported every trendy policy that was terrible for america.

                                                                      The only thing different about the founding fathers is their mentality:





                                                                      They believed in political/economic literacy.

                                                                      No one today believes in this.

                                                                      Which is why all ppl can do is run in circles like headless chickens.

                                                                      Not understanding anything.
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