How many Americans actually know about the MK-Ultra program

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  • jtoler
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 12-17-13
    • 30967

    #71
    Originally posted by Optional
    I conspired with my son to surprise his mother with a nice gift recently.
    you'd get a red mark on paper and be told to choose another verb since conspire has a negative connotation
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    • Sanity Check
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-30-13
      • 10962

      #72
      I wish people like this would stop making MKULTRA seem like a joke:

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      • gauchojake
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 09-17-10
        • 34117

        #73
        she seems about as stable as you
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        • Optional
          Administrator
          • 06-10-10
          • 61881

          #74
          Originally posted by jtoler

          you'd get a red mark on paper and be told to choose another verb since conspire has a negative connotation
          Errr...no. My exact point was to show it does not.

          Conspiracy is no more than planning something as a group at its basis.

          Evil or negative planning not required.
          .
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          • A Quant
            SBR MVP
            • 05-14-18
            • 1357

            #75
            Originally posted by jtoler
            you'd get a red mark on paper and be told to choose another verb since conspire has a negative connotation
            Actually, no.

            "Conspire"-- "The Allies conspired to defeat Nazi Germany" Nothing negative in that use at all.

            It can be used as you described-- "They conspired to overthrow the government".

            However, there is no inherent negative or positive quality in the intransitive verb.

            Webster's 101 here folks.
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            • A Quant
              SBR MVP
              • 05-14-18
              • 1357

              #76
              Originally posted by Sanity Check
              I wish people like this would stop making MKULTRA seem like a joke:

              https://twitter.com/ilovephotocall
              That twitter account is hysterical.
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              • A Quant
                SBR MVP
                • 05-14-18
                • 1357

                #77
                Originally posted by jtoler
                you supported "modern medicine" in your comment but obviously dont know the history of it when brought up you cant comment on it, if u knew the history I doubt you would have responded at all. what point did you make I dont see one, my point was modern medicine, you gave no retort on it, only to talk about medical techniques, thats not medicine.
                You've become a dog chasing its own tail.

                I'm pretty sure you don't even know what it is you are trying to say. Take a step back, and try again.
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                • Grits n' Gravy
                  Restricted User
                  • 06-10-10
                  • 13024

                  #78
                  Former football player Larry Johnson is a conspiracy whack job too
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                  • hehfest
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 09-28-08
                    • 7934

                    #79
                    Originally posted by A Quant
                    Another one.

                    I have a bet for you. Fine, you don't like modern medicine.

                    If you experience chest pains and are reasonably sure you are having a heart attack, try some herbal tea, and see if you survive. penetrate the ER---and their "business model" medicine---- you got this--- take some Herbal tea and beat that shit. You in?

                    Or, let's see about bringing back smallpox, and you try and beat it with your alternative medicines, deal?

                    I think the teas and supplements are a good preventative and proactive measure to not getting into bad health, but if you happen to get sick then you really should go to a doctor. I mean you have to. I'm as anti-vax, anti-drugs person but when it comes to getting better I don't hesitate to get help. Without antibiotics, most of us would already be dead and not find 30.

                    I have only been sick once in the last 10 years and I attribute that to taking care of myself and taking supplements, etc. The one time I did get sick, I went to the doc and got on antibiotics and got better. Modern medicine WILL help you get better when sick.
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                    • Sanity Check
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 03-30-13
                      • 10962

                      #80
                      Originally posted by hehfest
                      I think the teas and supplements are a good preventative and proactive measure

                      Many tea bags are partially made of plastic which is released when heated. They're also known to contain pesticides.

                      DNA testing of supplements reveal many supplements do not contain the ingredients they claim to. There was a huge scandal years back.
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                      • HurryUpAndDrink
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 08-23-13
                        • 13017

                        #81
                        Originally posted by Optional
                        I conspired with my son to surprise his mother with a nice gift recently.
                        LOL I see what you did there but conspiracy has to involve a crime for it to be labeled that way.

                        2 or more people conspiring in secrecy to commit a crime... it was a term coined in the 60's by the CIA to discredit and ridicule anyone saying Oswald didnt kill JFK.
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                        • HurryUpAndDrink
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 08-23-13
                          • 13017

                          #82
                          Originally posted by A Quant
                          Actually, no.

                          "Conspire"-- "The Allies conspired to defeat Nazi Germany" Nothing negative in that use at all.

                          It can be used as you described-- "They conspired to overthrow the government".

                          However, there is no inherent negative or positive quality in the intransitive verb.

                          Webster's 101 here folks.

                          JFC you are an insufferable piece of shit
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