How many Americans actually know about the MK-Ultra program

[themike78]

Deep state runs everything behind the scenes. Politicians and govt alphabet agencies are just the puppets so noby figures out who's really running the show. Anybody that thinks Bezos is the richest guy on the planet or that Trump has any power are sleeping. Deep states fools. You don't know their fukin names. They're secretive.

But who runs the secretive people? Do you know the answer to that too? Are they the super secretive people or what?

[habitualwinning]

But who runs the secretive people? Do you know the answer to that too? Are they the super secretive people or what?

Go vote and take your prescription meds that your doctor prescribed. Cause neither will change anything. You're still gonna die from cancer and the federal reserve which is a private corporation will still run America. The CIA has admitted MK Ultra so that can't be a conspiracy. A conspiracy is something alleged but not possible to prove. Like that Bush knew in advance of 9/11. Did he? Idk and neither do you, so that's a conspiracy. MK is proven, foia documented.

Did you know that doctors are the 3rd leading cause of death in America?! Did you know the average doctor dies 20 years before the average American?! That's not a conspiracy either. It's proven, documented fact. Do you trust doctors? Cause I don't. They're a bunch of dumbfuks like you apparently are.

Where are all these conspiracies you alleged? Were talking facts in here bud. Stay in your lane and get back to talking football and gambling cause were way above your paygrade in here.

[b1slickguy]

[jtoler]

A conspiracy is something alleged but not possible to prove.

actually conspiracy simply means an evil plot or plotting to do harm or evil and many times are proven

[gojetsgomoxies]

doctors life expectancy is the USA is 20 years less than the average person?....... plz show us that evidence.... i don't think snopes would even touch that one.

[gojetsgomoxies]

Deep state runs everything behind the scenes. Politicians and govt alphabet agencies are just the puppets so noby figures out who's really running the show. Anybody that thinks Bezos is the richest guy on the planet or that Trump has any power are sleeping. Deep states fools. You don't know their fukin names. They're secretive.

they are a bunch of largely anonymous people in the world richer than jeff bezos? really? excluding middle eastern royalty

[jtoler]

doctors life expectancy is the USA is 20 years less than the average person?....... plz show us that evidence.... i don't think snopes would even touch that one.

prob meant the average person who sees doctors for treatment

[habitualwinning]

prob meant the average person who sees doctors for treatment

No I meant doctors dumbfuk. Research it. Im not your middle school teacher. A simple google, yahoo, bing whatever the fuk search engine you use brings up data on the topic. Npr and ncbi articles.

Doctors also have one of the highest suicide rates of any profession. Go ahead and search that topic too, lazy. Doctors are the 3rd leading cause of death in America. Another one you can research when you decide to turn off the TV. All true. All proven. All documented. Several articles and books with citations linked to every topic I just mentioned.

If I have to hold your hand for simple shit like this, there's no hope for you or anyone that thinks like you. I know things and proven facts and stats that you wouldn't even be able to comprehend, if you deny the aforementioned facts! Gd go read some books, research papers, peer reviewed articles, then come back with the diarrhea mouth.

[habitualwinning]

they are a bunch of largely anonymous people in the world richer than jeff bezos? really? excluding middle eastern royalty

Bezos vs. The Vatican coffers
Bezos vs. The British Royal trust
Bezos vs. Saudi royal trust
Bezos vs. Chinese deep state
Bezos vs. The Rothschild estate
Bezos vs. The city of london deep state, not London, UK, the city of london. You probably have no idea what I'm referring to but anybody in the know, knows the entity known as city of london.

If you seriously think Bozo the cue ball has more $$$ than any of those people, you don't understand how the world works. It's obvious though to anybody in the know. Where do you think all of the old world wealth went. Do you think it just disappeared? Evaporated? The same families have been running the world for centuries. Bozo the baldy been around since the 90s, lol.

[jtoler]

No I meant doctors dumbfuk. Research it. Im not your middle school teacher. A simple google, yahoo, bing whatever the fuk search engine you use brings up data on the topic. I'll give you the cliffnotes though since you're too lazy to do the work.

The average American dies in their 70s. The average doctor dies in their 50s in America. Doctors also have one of the highest suicide rates of any profession. Go ahead and search that topic too, lazy. Doctors are the 3rd leading cause of death in America. Another one you can research when you decide to turn off the TV. All true. All proven. All documented. Several articles and books with citations linked to every topic I just mentioned.

If I have to hold your hand for simple shit like this, there's no hope for you or anyone that thinks like you. I know things and proven facts and stats that you wouldn't even be able to comprehend, if you deny the aforementioned facts! Gd go read some books, research papers, peer reviewed articles, then come back with the diarrhea mouth.

Ill give u a pass and wont respond recklessly as u since ur prob hardly ever on here and have no idea I could easily take u to the cleaners on the topics u think u know about. but perhaps it was your grammar that threw moxie as well as myself off. wording it as doctors are the 3rd leading cause of death is not correct grammar for the message youre trying to relay but someone who doesnt know what conspiracy means perhaps thats no surprise. and Im sure when mentioning bezos they were meaning single person and not groups of people and organizations anyway...

[habitualwinning]

Ill give u a pass and wont respond recklessly as u since ur prob hardly ever on here and have no idea I could easily take u to the cleaners on the topics u think u know about. but perhaps it was your grammar that threw moxie as well as myself off. wording it as doctors are the 3rd leading cause of death is not correct grammar for the message youre trying to relay but someone who doesnt know what conspiracy means perhaps thats no surprise. and Im sure when mentioning bezos they were meaning single person and not groups of people and organizations anyway...

1. Heart Disease
2. Cancer
3. Doctors

Take me to the cleaners dumbfuk. Im right here. What topic you wanna have a go at?

[habitualwinning]

Let's go murder. Black men are less than 7% of the population in USA, yet they commit more than half, that's 50%, dumfuk of all murders.

[habitualwinning]

Let's go police. Police kill on average more than 1000 U.S. Citizens per year. I've got stats and facts for days bud.

[habitualwinning]

Let's go car crashes. Over 40% of traffic fatalities in America involve a driver that was, not drunk, but rather high on marijuana.

[habitualwinning]

There's a ton of misconceptions and inaccuracies that the public adhere to. Stats and facts don't lie but talking heads on tv do.

I don't have any ill will toward you. I don't really give a fuk if you're the resident debate team captain of this sports gambling forum. Lmao, I honestly couldn't care any less. You think you're some bad mfer hanging out on a degen gambling addict forum trying to talk about tertiary level facts that pertain to real world topics and not sports.

Sports is irrelevant in the real world. It's folly for the simple minded. People are being murdered and poisoned and people like you are on sports forums debating who has bigger biceps or who can launch a ball faster.

Lmao this forum is a joke. So is the world. You very well may be intelligent for all I know. Prove it then! Stop using strawman arguments and prove it dumbfuk.

[habitualwinning]

@jtol Teach me something important about the world that I don't already know. Then take it to a critical level and teach all of us in this thread what the solution is. That's how you get my respect and that's the only way.

[jtoler]

if ur thing is death statistics then Im already defeated. I wasnt referring to those kinds of topics

[habitualwinning]

@jtol Would you recommend a prescription drug to lower high blood pressure and high cholesterol or would you recommend a simple change to diet and exercise? You know like eliminating fast food, junk food etc. and moderate exercise daily.

Isn't it strange how American doctors always recommend the drugs but never the simple, natural cure of the latter. I wonder if it has anything to do with kickbacks, grants and the fact that American doctors get virtually no teachings on diet and nutrition in med school?

[habitualwinning]

if ur thing is death statistics then Im already defeated. I wasnt referring to those kinds of topics

I'm game for any topic. I don't really like talking shit or debating even. Just learning new facts and stats that are relevant to the macro. Anything useful or educational. You have to know many things that others don't. Just about everyone knows something that other people are ignorant of or have been decieved on. I've learned shit from homeless people begging off me at a gas station before.

[habitualwinning]

@ jtol. You won. I'm throwing in the towel like Wilder did on Sat. I was calling you idiot and dumbfuk and I don't even know you. On the forum or in real life. The brokenness of human nature and the ego defeated me. I've defeated myself by being foolish and belligerent. My apologies. I will refrain from responding further in this thread. I've already overstepped. Sorry to the thread starter as wel l

[jtoler]

@jtol Would you recommend a prescription drug to lower high blood pressure and high cholesterol or would you recommend a simple change to diet and exercise? You know like eliminating fast food, junk food etc. and moderate exercise daily.

Isn't it strange how American doctors always recommend the drugs but never the simple, natural cure of the latter. I wonder if it has anything to do with kickbacks, grants and the fact that American doctors get virtually no teachings on diet and nutrition in med school?

Id recommend changing diet and exercise, yea I agree. funny I was just listening to a pod and they were talking about that exact same thing but in relation on cancer diagnosis and cut, poison, burn as opposed to pathology and cancer prevention. yep Id suspect the teaching is a joke in that relation since modern medicine is a business model and functions as that and not designed for healing and curing. I used to read about this a bit going back to high middle ages before all the supposed witch hunts and of course medicine and med students were taught totally different in those times. what we call alternative medicine today used to be the something one desired, plants and herbs instead of the this pill crap theyve concocted

[A Quant]

Kids... this is the effects of drug use.

You end up posting ridiculously moronic nutty shit ON A GAMBLING SITE, pretending you are a crime fighter.

Jesus H. Christ.

[A Quant]

Go vote and take your prescription meds that your doctor prescribed. Cause neither will change anything. You're still gonna die from cancer and the federal reserve which is a private corporation will still run America. The CIA has admitted MK Ultra so that can't be a conspiracy. A conspiracy is something alleged but not possible to prove. Like that Bush knew in advance of 9/11. Did he? Idk and neither do you, so that's a conspiracy. MK is proven, foia documented.

Did you know that doctors are the 3rd leading cause of death in America?! Did you know the average doctor dies 20 years before the average American?! That's not a conspiracy either. It's proven, documented fact. Do you trust doctors? Cause I don't. They're a bunch of dumbfuks like you apparently are.

Where are all these conspiracies you alleged? Were talking facts in here bud. Stay in your lane and get back to talking football and gambling cause were way above your paygrade in here.

Look at Captain Fukking Tinfoil here.

He has all the answers, and he is posting on a gambling website.

I'd bet big money this fukker has not left his 250 sq foot apartment in 10 days.

[A Quant]

Id recommend changing diet and exercise, yea I agree. funny I was just listening to a pod and they were talking about that exact same thing but in relation on cancer diagnosis and cut, poison, burn as opposed to pathology and cancer prevention. yep Id suspect the teaching is a joke in that relation since modern medicine is a business model and functions as that and not designed for healing and curing. I used to read about this a bit going back to high middle ages before all the supposed witch hunts and of course medicine and med students were taught totally different in those times. what we call alternative medicine today used to be the something one desired, plants and herbs instead of the this pill crap theyve concocted

Another one.

I have a bet for you. Fine, you don't like modern medicine.

If you experience chest pains and are reasonably sure you are having a heart attack, try some herbal tea, and see if you survive. penetrate the ER---and their "business model" medicine---- you got this--- take some Herbal tea and beat that shit. You in?

Or, let's see about bringing back smallpox, and you try and beat it with your alternative medicines, deal?

[PittsburghPlayer]

no.

[jtoler]

Another one.

I have a bet for you. Fine, you don't like modern medicine.

If you experience chest pains and are reasonably sure you are having a heart attack, try some herbal tea, and see if you survive. penetrate the ER---and their "business model" medicine---- you got this--- take some Herbal tea and beat that shit. You in?

Or, let's see about bringing back smallpox, and you try and beat it with your alternative medicines, deal?

u seemed to have missed the point

[PittsburghPlayer]

yes

[A Quant]

u seemed to have missed the point

Oh, please expand on it then.

Explain how modern medicine is failing the united states----things like multiple organ transplants, stem cell research, gamma knife technology, the eradiction of diseases that killed millions of people...do you really think there is little to no focus on Cancer prevention?

Would you like to know how much money was spent on prevention programs? the fact that you seem to think there is no money going into endoscopy studies, mammograms, CaIHO evaluations-----makes me think you really don't understand modern medicine at all.

[jtoler]

Oh, please expand on it then.

Explain how modern medicine is failing the united states----things like multiple organ transplants, stem cell research, gamma knife technology, the eradiction of diseases that killed millions of people...do you really think there is little to no focus on Cancer prevention?

Would you like to know how much money was spent on prevention programs? the fact that you seem to think there is no money going into endoscopy studies, mammograms, CaIHO evaluations-----makes me think you really don't understand modern medicine at all.

do u work in the medical field and maybe I offended you somehow? only thing I was referring to was medicine...pills. do you understand what goes into drug making, the history of medicine, what has transpired in the last 700 years. I said nothing about that other stuff you mentioned.

[A Quant]

do u work in the medical field and maybe I offended you somehow? only thing I was referring to was medicine...pills. do you understand what goes into drug making, the history of medicine, what has transpired in the last 700 years. I said nothing about that other stuff you mentioned.

Actually you mentioned that you listened to a podcast and they discussed how the object was to dx, cut and poison, as opposed to prevention.....

And I pointed out to you that the United States spends more money per person on prevention than any other 2 countries combined.

94% of insurance companies today in the US pay for 17 different cancer screenings. If you reduce that number to 14-- you get nearly 100%. Everything from prostate examinations to mammograms, to stool screening and endoscopies.

This idea that the us medical model is "dx-cut-poison" is complete bullshit and I have mountains of data to support that position.

[jtoler]

Actually you mentioned that you listened to a podcast and they discussed how the object was to dx, cut and poison, as opposed to prevention.....

And I pointed out to you that the United States spends more money per person on prevention than any other 2 countries combined.

94% of insurance companies today in the US pay for 17 different cancer screenings. If you reduce that number to 14-- you get nearly 100%. Everything from prostate examinations to mammograms, to stool screening and endoscopies.

This idea that the us medical model is "dx-cut-poison" is complete bullshit and I have mountains of data to support that position.

not sure if youre being serious. if those entities were serious about prevention then education would be key, gmos wouldnt be allowed, all the crap thats in food which is no doubt causing much if not most of various cancers those things would be eliminated if those entities were serious about prevention. what hospital or doctor for that matter, and I could extend that to gov't, wants a bunch of healthy people walking around they would be put out of business. all type of crap is put into food and they are allowed to keep it off the label therefore the consumer has no idea what he is ingesting. we know there's no money in cures the money is in the repeat trip, the daily dosage, the six month supply. if I found a cure for cancer tomorrow do u think it would go live, dont kid yourself. there was quite the shunning of rife who knows what he prob did. but my main point was about medicine cancer was only mentioned because the pod brought it up. there's a reason they hunted down so called witches and genocided them all over europe for several hundred years, people with recipes and knowledge of healing in order to consolidate this so called "modern medicine". there's a reason those who have some of the same knowledge today are shunned and labeled pseudo.

[A Quant]

not sure if youre being serious. if those entities were serious about prevention then education would be key, gmos wouldnt be allowed, all the crap thats in food which is no doubt causing much if not most of various cancers those things would be eliminated if those entities were serious about prevention. what hospital or doctor for that matter, and I could extend that to gov't, wants a bunch of healthy people walking around they would be put out of business. all type of crap is put into food and they are allowed to keep it off the label therefore the consumer has no idea what he is ingesting. we know there's no money in cures the money is in the repeat trip, the daily dosage, the six month supply. if I found a cure for cancer tomorrow do u think it would go live, dont kid yourself. there was quite the shunning of rife. but my main point was about medicine cancer was only mentioned because the pod brought it up. there's a reason they hunted down so called witches and genocided them all over europe for several hundred years, people with recipes and knowledge of healing in order to consolidate this so called "modern medicine". there's a reason those who have some of the same knowledge today are shunned and labeled pseudo.

All you did is respond to me with a paragraph containing 78 different rambling bullshit generalizations, without absolutely nothing to back it up.

Nothing.

One thing is for certain. There is absolutely no threat of you ever having to worry about discovering the cure for ANYTHING, much less cancer.

[jtoler]

All you did is respond to me with a paragraph containing 78 different rambling bullshit generalizations, without absolutely nothing to back it up.

Nothing.

One thing is for certain. There is absolutely no threat of you ever having to worry about discovering the cure for ANYTHING, much less cancer.

you supported "modern medicine" in your comment but obviously dont know the history of it when brought up you cant comment on it, if u knew the history I doubt you would have responded at all. what point did you make I dont see one, my point was modern medicine, you gave no retort on it, only to talk about medical techniques, thats not medicine.

[gojetsgomoxies]

Bezos vs. The Vatican coffers
Bezos vs. The British Royal trust
Bezos vs. Saudi royal trust
Bezos vs. Chinese deep state
Bezos vs. The Rothschild estate
Bezos vs. The city of london deep state, not London, UK, the city of london. You probably have no idea what I'm referring to but anybody in the know, knows the entity known as city of london.

If you seriously think Bozo the cue ball has more $$$ than any of those people, you don't understand how the world works. It's obvious though to anybody in the know. Where do you think all of the old world wealth went. Do you think it just disappeared? Evaporated? The same families have been running the world for centuries. Bozo the baldy been around since the 90s, lol.

FFS, those are collections of people AND many of them are hardly anonymous.......

[Optional]

A conspiracy is something alleged but not possible to prove.

actually conspiracy simply means an evil plot or plotting to do harm or evil and many times are proven

I conspired with my son to surprise his mother with a nice gift recently.