Some Things... I Just Don't Understand In Life

[gauchojake]

Money, what does your brother say about all this? You two and your sister should sit down with your pops and hash all this out if you can. The reason I would suggest an attorney is so that you understand the laws behind his "incarceration" if you will. It may be that you can't do anything. You won't know until you talk to someone though. I'm pretty sure an hour consultation would answer the questions. I feel for ya man. This is a shitty situation. Better Call Saul!

[bradthebloke]

Yes, PT... you are correct. I kinda say to myself... I'm not the only one who's been though this... and I won't be the last. Knowing that unfortunately everyone.... has to go through a struggle takes the pressure off. I mean... when you tell yourself it's a part of life. I guess you convince yourself it's ok.





Thank you! Greatly appreciated!



Thank you!




When me and the social worker got into this "verbal argument".... Here's exactly what happened. I waited outside her door... looks like a small janitor sized closet with no windows. She was about 5'1'' and 95 lbs... I'd say mid 50's? Immediately when I said who I was... she frowned at me. That was BS right there. She became aggressive instantly... and for what??? I said I don't understand why you don't return a damn phone call. That's exactly what I said. Then she flashed this paper in front of me... which apparently was a "Guardianship" document. Again, hard to ask questions when this woman was yelling instantly. (She was clearly pissed off that after I left her 2 voicemails and gave her 5 business days to call me back... she didn't think I would confront her.)

I don't know how this Guardianship paper was authorized? I didn't google it. I always thought Power of Attorney superscedes all documents. I thought I knew law... I mean... I trained myself... but she kept on calling me out on everything. When I said I could get power of attorney over guardianship immediately. Then she responded NO YOU CAN'T!!! I said BS. She said your father isn't mentally stable I WON'T ALLOW IT! I said who the hell are you to decide anything. Then I said what doctor diagnosed him with this "mental disorder" because he was cleared at the hospital of any disorder? She goes I'm going to ask you to leave RIGHT NOW or I'm calling the police. I said do what you have to do. I'm not leaving until I get answers. The woman never once looked me in the eye. The woman not once stood beside me... I just felt like she was giving me the run around. So, I don't know if my half sister quickly got this "Guardianship" documents done by Detroit courts? Or, this so called "social worker" has the authority to grant these docs? If she does... I have a brother and (including myself) don't you have to see what surviving sons and daughters are available before granting that doc to one person? The decision making is bizarre.




Yes, my half sister is the oldest out of the remaining living sons and daughters. I'm the youngest.




Thank you Gummo! It means a lot!




Thanks JP! I appreciate the post man. Yep, I only gave my half sister control because she gave me this sob story on the phone. "Why was I left out? (Cry cry, tear tear.)" I also felt that a daughter would take care of her father better. What a damn disgrace.




Thank you! Yes, my Dad is a religious man as well and he doesn't like confrontation. In a way... I'm just shocked that fate just turns on one day? My dad was 100% living independently... driving everywhere... I was helping him with his bills. Just making sure they were paid on time. He trusted me with everything. I just wanted him to live free. That's how he always lived his entire life... free and independent. That's just how his spirit is... now he is in a place where the meals are very small... and they served him burnt refried beans... looked like he got the dose from the bottom of the pot... and he continued to eat it. And all I want him to do is to eat well. They don't serve good food there. My dad never liked sweet things... like cookies... or ice cream. The oddest thing is... the best food there is ice cream and cookies. And he guzzled down that food so quickly... and then he said.. "best cookie I ever had." I just shook my head... I said something is so wrong here.

I will try to have composure and make the best decisions. Thanks again!




Thank you very much!




Yes, I had a few friends tell me that... and you are correct... you should be able to take your loved ones anywhere at anytime. I thought about it.




Thank you for your post! I was all ready for the Power of Attorney papers... they were already drawn up weeks ago. Way before this altercation on Tuesday.... I gave my Dad plenty of time to think things through. He wanted to think about it first. I had the papers drawn up at the hospital actually. My Dad didn't want to sign. Which I understand... he's very independent. He does the ordering... you know? lol And when you're old... you never say die. You never give up that power. And most people (including my dad) don't really understand what the papers represent. So, you're afraid to sign. You know it gives up control... and most don't want to do it.

Now, since this social worker has declared my dad "mentally incapable" I can't have him sign. It's invalid. It really sucks.




You are 100% correct. And my sister is very wealthy already. I'll explain the story below.




Thanks for the post! Yes, this social worker... works for the rehab facility. She's licensed and makes all decisions for the establishment. She's 100% in control.




Thanks for the post Krak Even when the police were dispatched and doing their closing reports. One officer came up to me... she was female... and she was talking to me... she goes... this appears as though this escalated for no reason? We received your statement... and the social worker's statement... and 3 witnesses... they all said the social worker came on aggressive towards you. I said... yes that's exactly what happened. The woman refused to talk to me. Also, my dad's nurse (who was male... and a real nice guy)... came up to me afterwards and said.. I'm sorry this happened.. she's (the social worker) does this to everyone. My take on that is... some employees are unhappy about her ordering them around. The woman isn't consistent. She's way too aggressive. She doesn't get all the facts first... I still feel she made a wrong choice.






So about my half sister? She lives in a 600k home. She has her own street. From what people have told me.... (which I've never been to her home nor do I care) she has real "gas flames" used as nightlights. You know... like a porch light? So, she has money. How did this happen? I'll explain....

I was little when this happen... maybe I was 7 or 8 years old. Perhaps around 1984-1985 My half sister's husband was a hard working man. Seemed like a very nice guy... one day... he came home and said hey honey... I purchased life insurance! I got a real great deal! She responded... WE DON'T NEED THAT!!! Why the hell did you do that for? I'm sure he felt horrible being yelled at.

Then, one of our famous news anchorman in Detroit... named Bill Bonds on channel 7 news... we have breaking news... The Detroit Police department lost a convict. He is currently running lose in Detroit... we will have more details as they become available. That day... my half sister's husband happened to be in Detroit.. for unknown reasons. He was at a light waiting for it to turn green... and was going to head on the on ramp I-94 leaving the city. Before the light turned Green... a escaped convict opened the passenger door of his car.. kicked him in the forehead... he was out cold. Placed his body on the passenger floorboard... (cars had huge floorboards back then) and continued to drive with his car. Detroit Police realized he stole a car... didn't realize my sister's husband's body was laying on that floorboard. The pursuit ensued... high speeds at around 80+ miles an hour. I believe the pursuit ended in or near the city of Melvindale... the convict smashed into a vidock (you know when a train passes above a road)... he smashed it head on. The escaped convict was crippled from the waist down... my half sister's husband was dead. They don't know if the foot to the forehead caused the death.... or the impact on collision. He died and left behind a 2 year old son and wife.

Later, I believe my half sister was happy with the "life insurance" amount... but someone gave her an idea to sue the City of Detroit... for being negligent in the death of her husband. Stating... the high speed chase caused the death. And wasn't necessary. There was a full trial.... and she won. I don't know the exact amount... but most of it was for his/her 2 year old son. He would receive all of the money on his 18th birthday. It was a trust fund. (If you are curious... only 2 life insurance payments were made before his death. Yes, only 2 months.)

The woman... literally... has never worked a day in her life. She doesn't know what it's like to grind out a day. She has manipulated men after her husband. Looking for business owners who make $$$$$$$$$. She refuses to marry any of them. There's reasons for that.

And she told me 4 weeks ago.... "I don't know about you... but I don't have time to sit around and watch DAD wheel himself around my house." And I replied... "I would love to have Dad at my house." She said... no.. it's not going to happen. Then I said... I want him at your house... or mine... not an old folks home.

As you can clearly see what happened after that...

gimme the bitch's address. Ill catch a plane and give her some herps.

[gauchojake]

Get her Brad

[The Kraken]

Great post Money. Felt like I was reading a thriller/novel.

I can't stand people like your half sister, they make me sick.

Hopefully she can make herself useful and do the right thing here.

Take care of pops, sweet

[bigballa]

always a good read money, even if its shit for you...keep us posted i agree with a few of the recent posts get the hospital report that stats he is fine, surely things haven't changed that much with him in 2 months and also get your brother and the bit*h together and sit down and talk....face to face talk i think would go along way to sorting things out and if your sister is still a bitch at least you and your brother could go at it together rather than you battling on your own....really do hope things work out for you my friend, keep us posted and good luck!!

[manny24]

Step1. call JJ and tell him to find a good spot in the desert to start digging a hole

[nate686]

Bump

[konck]

Get a small compact tape recorder hide it in his room if you cant get it in there have some one else do it
It will at least give you some piece of mind they are not harming him

[recon1]

Get a small compact tape recorder hide it in his room if you cant get it in there have some one else do it
It will at least give you some piece of mind they are not harming him

If found it's called "wiretapping"

[The Kraken]

Easy solution, make sure it's not found

Even if, it would be inadmissible in court but could be good blackmail material

[Jayvegas420]

Money, please call a lawyer and delete all posts in this thread.

This might be the best advice you have received in this thread.
Also, if you can prove that your 1/2 sister had a vested financial interest in your fathers death, you would have a very strong case in Civil Court

[Jayvegas420]

If found it's called "wiretapping"

I do t think konk was suggesting he use the recordings in court. It sounded like a good tactic if TMS was just looking for piece of mind.

[Jayvegas420]

Easy solution, make sure it's not found

Even if, it would be inadmissible in court but could be good blackmail material

Also delete this post in case TMS finds himself facing extortion charges

[manny24]

let's do a jailbreak type rescue using a crew of SBR posters only

maybe Krakles can drive the getaway car stolen by Bear or Gritter possibly Ingga

[TheMoneyShot]

Money, what does your brother say about all this?

Unfortunately no matter how honest you are about anything.... everyone always believes you're doing it for "the money." I've seen changes in my brother and just like in my mom's situation... my brother questioned me aggressively... and it was unlike his character. I told him... do you want to see bnk statements? I'd be more than happy to show you. He goes no... no I don't. Some people are very aggressive verbally... but when it comes to research... people fade out... or become head strong and start making more irrational decisions. My brother just isn't the type to have a round table discussion and follow through... he means well though.




Just wanted to give an update.

Received an odd phone call today... wasn't around to answer the call... went to voice mail. A gentleman said that he works for "Adult Protective Services" and would like to speak to me.

I called the number back earlier this afternoon. The person was very solid in his speech. Businesslike. He said... I would like to meet with you in person... and I wish not to discuss matters over the phone. He said... I drove to your residence earlier today and you weren't home. I was hoping to catch you there. (My mind was racing a bit... was wondering how the heck he got my address? I don't even think my own dad knows the street address by heart? Like, my dad knows landmarks etc. He knows how to get somewhere.)

So, I wonder if this is a good sign? Or... does this have anything to do with what happened last week? I didn't file any complaints and I didn't call the State. I've been trying to figure it all out? I guess I'll find out 1PM Wednesday. Hoping for the best.

[bradthebloke]

Unfortunately no matter how honest you are about anything.... everyone always believes you're doing it for "the money." I've seen changes in my brother and just like in my mom's situation... my brother questioned me aggressively... and it was unlike his character. I told him... do you want to see bnk statements? I'd be more than happy to show you. He goes no... no I don't. Some people are very aggressive verbally... but when it comes to research... people fade out... or become head strong and start making more irrational decisions. My brother just isn't the type to have a round table discussion and follow through... he means well though.




Just wanted to give an update.

Received an odd phone call today... wasn't around to answer the call... went to voice mail. A gentleman said that he works for "Adult Protective Services" and would like to speak to me.

I called the number back earlier this afternoon. The person was very solid in his speech. Businesslike. He said... I would like to meet with you in person... and I wish not to discuss matters over the phone. He said... I drove to your residence earlier today and you weren't home. I was hoping to catch you there. (My mind was racing a bit... was wondering how the heck he got my address? I don't even think my own dad knows the street address by heart? Like, my dad knows landmarks etc. He knows how to get somewhere.)

So, I wonder if this is a good sign? Or... does this have anything to do with what happened last week? I didn't file any complaints and I didn't call the State. I've been trying to figure it all out? I guess I'll find out 1PM Wednesday. Hoping for the best.

was it a guy trying to serve you papers?

[The Kraken]

Have you met with APS guy yet? Usually not a great sign but ya never know. Seems like between your sister and social worker, one of them two said something, fabricated a story.

My fam went through a sim situation recently. Her mom got alzeheimers and my grandad was just too old to take care of her, much less himself, so she moved in to help them. Things went well for many years, 6 or 7 in fact. One day my Aunt, my mothers sister, comes into town with all her money and decides she wants to take over. Gets a judge to sign the order and moves both of my grandparents to Chicago, my mother was devestated. They both died within the year. You can't move old people around like that. Home is home and their homes mean a lot to them. It's an extrememly stressful situation when you're 92 and move half way across the country to be a guest in someone elses house the rest of their life.

I was on good terms with my Aunt before this but laid into her for this one. She wasn't there for the hard times, the tyring ones that my mom was for 7 years. She didn't take care of them day in, day out like my mother had. She just wanted to ride in at the very end, put in minimal effort and come out looking like the saviour. I made sure everyone in the family realized the damage she had done.

She actually tried to sue my mom at some point for something petty. I sent one of my friends who's an attorney over to the court house in her stead to figure out what was going on. He laughed when he called me later and gave me the scoop. She just made up a bunch of shit. That's what women do in these circumstances. Lawsuit was promptly dropped.

In the end, my Aunt spent a fortune on attorneys fees and had to ask us (my sister, me, my mom, etc) to pitch in for my grandfathers burial. I footed the entire bill simply because I was close to him. He was a WW2 vet that flew in the pacific. He was a good man, owned many businesses and I learned a lot from him. Miss the hell out of him. Then she had the nerve to ask me to also pay for the luncheon after the funeral I told the bitch to go to hell and that she could eat McD's for all I care but I wouldn't put a penny towards food she'd be eating.

Drama, TMS. It passes but it's hard as fukk going through it. Never underestimate these women during all of this. They will fabricate stories against you, lie about everything, it's all bullshit man. I remember I had a friend that went through this before me. Then I did. Now you are. It almost always plays out the same and ends similarly. Sorry it's your turn.

[firstclass]

what ever happened money ?

[bigballa]

money did it get sorted?

[TheMoneyShot]

I appreciate the concern fellas. A lot has surfaced within the past few months. Because it's still court related... and several different cases are in progress... I can't release any details.

I will just say this... please... please... please... talk with your mom and dads out there... no matter what their ages. Make sure they get documents printed/stamped to whom they want to make medical decisions in case of a major health disaster. Life is very precious... yes... we've all had hard times with our moms and dads... we remember the arguments... heated discussions etc. But we still love them and they love us. They protected us when we were little... it's just the reverse now... we protect them now. But when sisters/brothers get involved... you don't know what their motive really is? Could be money related. Could be leverage related. Could be hate related. Just make sure you take the steps in protecting them.