Time to make things right.

[BeerDog99]

You conveniently leave out the unfair interest & penalties Tripe assessed, making a complete mockery of the loan.

On a side note, I find it soooooo ironic that stated conservative/religious folks hand out crumbs to support a person that will not stand up on their own two feet. So self-serving and holier than thou. Such a stark example of real life hypocrisy in this forum.....

Apparently you never experienced the satisfaction one receives by helping feed the poor, like myself & Brainfreeze have experienced many times over. Truly sad BD, but we'll keep you in our prayers.[/QUOTE]

The interest (i.e. stipulations for the reading challenged) were abundantly clear.

My statements about giving crumbs has nothing to do with my charity generosity in real life or on this fourm. I give to many good causes both in real life and on this forum.... Reference my holier than thou attitude statement, you just proved it.

As far as you praying for me, don't bother yourself. If your personal sky god is real, I will be in "hell" along with >99.99% of this world anyways.

[bobbywaves]

If your personal sky god is real, I will be in "hell"

He's real alright & nothing personal about it, as He's not just my God.....As an atheist, I'm sure you & Tripe will be in Hell as well.

[BeerDog99]

He's real alright & nothing personal about it, as He's not just my God.....As an atheist, I'm sure you & Tripe will be in Hell as well.

Given your response, you do not understand what a "Personal God" is.

If you think he (being the invisible sky god) listens to you and "knows" who you are, then that is a personal god.

If there is a "personal god", he/she is either impotent or a sadist for letting all of the horrible stuff happen to all of the god fearing and praying people in this world.

Either way, it is nothing that I want any part of.

[bobbywaves]

Given your response, you do not understand what a "Personal God" is.

If you think he (being the invisible sky god) listens to you and "knows" who you are, then that is a personal god.

If there is a "personal god", he/she is either impotent or a sadist for letting all of the horrible stuff happen to all of the god fearing and praying people in this world.

Either way, it is nothing that I want any part of.

That's your prerogative not to take part, but here's the difference:

If I'm wrong about my faith, it cost me absolutely nothing. If you're wrong, it cost you eternal life.

[brainfreeze]

I find it supremely amusing seeing people comment on what is an apparently fair for Carseller but no regards to TDB.

Carseller, an apparent adult with at least a middle school level of reading comprehension and maturity, agreed to a loan where TDB was absolutely clear on the stipulations and the intent of the loan.

He absolutely and flagrantly ignored the stipulations and has clearly tried to just act as if the loan did not exist for many months. He also had enough points to fully pay it off at one point and decided not to.

Exactly what out of his actions and his history deserves any leniency at all??? Also, all along TDB has made it clear, if Carseller acted like an adult and showed he was done with his shenanigans, he would discuss a reasonable total owed. Carseller has never acted like an adult on this and has only acted like a stiff, therefore he has been treated as such. The words Carseller uses is nothing more than BS until his actions back them up. A few payments does not constitute backing up his words.

On a side note, I find it soooooo ironic that stated conservative/religious folks hand out crumbs to support a person that will not stand up on their own two feet. So self-serving and holier than thou. Such a stark example of real life hypocrisy in this forum.....

2 Corinthians 12:1
1Boasting is necessary, though it is not profitable; but I will go on to visions and revelations of the Lord.

Though I won't be casting any stones, I'm a righteous man. I've sinned, and was a slave to sin, but I'm free and proud in Christ, the glory is His alone.

Now for carsellers actions, yes, there should be consequences but the badge goes to far, tripper is a good guy I know he will work something out for him. Yes, seller does act juvenile and immature at times, and it's anything but funny for tripper I'm sure. These points are his points, and he deserves them back asap, so let the principal get handled, and tripper get 3 thousand for waiting so long, I don't think seller will have a problem, and don't think tripper would mind, he's not dying for points, he just wants justice and for seller to be a man and do the right thing without all the extra excuses and so fourth... No quandary talk seller..

[BeerDog99]

That's your prerogative not to take part, but here's the difference:

If I'm wrong about my faith, it cost me absolutely nothing. If you're wrong, it cost you eternal life.

LMAO, you are only acting "good" in case of threat, not because you want to be good on your own...

Also in reality, religion has been a scourge across mankind and the world for all of existence, so it has "cost" you a lot. But you keep fooling yourself, I know it is easier to deal with.

[bobbywaves]

LMAO, you are only acting "good" in case of threat, not because you want to be good on your own...

Being a "good" human being comes natural to me, no acting is necessary.

[brainfreeze]

LMAO, you are only acting "good" in case of threat, not because you want to be good on your own...

Also in reality, religion has been a scourge across mankind and the world for all of existence, so it has "cost" you a lot. But you keep fooling yourself, I know it is easier to deal with.

Guess this is to Bobby, but I'm not " acting " any kind of way, this is the real me... If anything I was " acting " to get what I wanted in the world, status, pride, money, women, fake friends " superficial ", this is what fronts are made of not being a servant of God.

[BeerDog99]

Having a threat of eternal damnation seems to be the only thing that keeps Christians partially in line. Even then there is selective memory and quoting of scripture to validate their points ignoring the hypocrisy and outright contradictions.

I know it is my fault but I guess we need to saloon this shit now.

The point is, Carseller is the master of his own demise and anybody still giving him handouts is just enabling him.

[bobbywaves]

Having a threat of eternal damnation seems to be the only thing that keeps Christians partially in line.

It's not a threat, more of a promise.

The point is, Carseller is the master of his own demise and anybody still giving him handouts is just enabling him.

And giving loans to CS isn't enabling? Gifts to help pay CS loan wouldn't be necessary, if the loan wasn't offered in the first place. But that obviously didn't stop Tripe from exploiting CS weakness.

[brainfreeze]

Having a threat of eternal damnation seems to be the only thing that keeps Christians partially in line. Even then there is selective memory and quoting of scripture to validate their points ignoring the hypocrisy and outright contradictions.

I know it is my fault but I guess we need to saloon this shit now.

The point is, Carseller is the master of his own demise and anybody still giving him handouts is just enabling him.

Not true, that's just a worldly way of thinking .. Though heaven and hell are real, I don't follow Christ because I want heaven, heaven just comes with doing what's right. It's like building something you believe in, rather it's a business or whatever, are you more happy you have money or that you've built a successful business that helps people with their needs. Heaven is just a bonus, it's the helping others that is glorifying to God. I'm happy being a servant to God, simple..

He's paying back his loan.... This is what the thread he started is about.

[BeerDog99]

And giving loans to CS isn't enabling? Gifts to help pay CS loan wouldn't be necessary, if the loan wasn't offered in the first place. But that obviously didn't stop Tripe from exploiting CS weakness.

As TDB clearly has stated, which you are clearly ignoring because of your dislike of TDB, the intent of the loan was for Carseller to change his ways or to stop the cycle once and for all.

Feeding carseller points to apparently pay some of his debt and/or proposing ways to settle this with no attention to the agreement is clearly enabling Carseller to continue to act whatever way he wants as he has done since I have been at this site.

[BeerDog99]

He's paying back his loan.... This is what the thread he started is about.

He has pulled this exact scam many times in the past. He is only trying to get more handouts and compassion for his antics.

[downsouth]

For those who see the deal as unfair. Lets say you go down to somewhere, oh, I dont know, say the dominican republic and some fancy resort. You pay a working girl a set "rate" for a weekend of wild, relentless, sex. On the street, internet, phone whatever you come to a solid agreement on exactly how much money will be exchanged in return for the an all you can eat booty buffett.

She arrives, you meet up and give her the money for the weekend. You fool around a minute or two and she then demands more money even though she agreed to an all you can hump a thon. She then says she needs more money because your terms for banging were unreasonable because you want to much. She refuses to abide by her agreement and claims you are the one being unreasonable.

Can't really blame the client as the terms were clearly laid out before the transaction took place, the native girl is obviously to blame as she cannot just arbitrarily decide that the terms were "unethical"

[downsouth]

He has pulled this exact scam many times in the past. He is only trying to get more handouts and compassion for his antics.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt brain as you have not been around the points forum as long. The above statement is true, basically he takes a few loans, pays back one or two, gets himself into one that he doesnt want to pay back and then stiffs for a few months. He will then decide to do what is "right". Make a production thread or two in the process hoping to generate handouts and then maybe pay off the loan on some modified terms.

Its happened several times over the years and guessing it will happen again as long as there are people willing to "help" him.

[Triple_D_Bet]

So let me get this straight: you obviously read what i wrote, in able to remove it from what you quoted. So despite now knowing that I hadn't seen the gift, and after seeing that I had sent the gift back, you decided it was worth your time to make up a lie and quote it with some emoticons? Are you trying to prove your opinions aren't swayed by facts, or that you're willing to overlook facts when trying (and failing) to come off as witty? Trust me, you don't need to prove this to anyone, not after a solid year+ of evidence.

Having a threat of eternal damnation seems to be the only thing that keeps Christians partially in line. Even then there is selective memory and quoting of scripture to validate their points ignoring the hypocrisy and outright contradictions.

I know it is my fault but I guess we need to saloon this shit now.

The point is, Carseller is the master of his own demise and anybody still giving him handouts is just enabling him.

No worries BD...this thread had nowhere to go but up!

On the religion thing, BD said it quite well: throughout history, organized religion has been at the forefront of human ignorance. When you tell people they just have to follow this list and they get eternal happiness, why would they have any interest in improving themselves or thinking for themselves? Arguably the only reason we came out of the dark ages was because people started questioning these organizations, and ignoring parts of the holy documents that were too glaringly inconsistent with modern sensibilities.

Despite this, the "enemy" or root cause isn't religion; that's just one of the ways (albeit one of the larger ones) that people choose to live in ignorance. Many do not let it impact them, and find a way to maintain a mostly rational worldview while believing in the parts of the religions they choose. A large minority does live in willful ignorance, to various extents...but these gullible fools are much like CS4: religion for them is just a means through which they exercise their idiocy and desire to be irrational. If it wasn't religion, it would be some other slanted worldview. These folks make for interesting studies psychologically, but not the sort of folks I'd care to hang around.

Freezer, your pity for CS4 is misplaced...nothing to do with religion I imagine, you just haven't seen him pull these stunts as often as the rest of us have. I don't have any issue with you or your worldviews; far from the first debate over religion, and I imagine like the ones that came before it, this one will accomplish nothing but giving all participants the chance to enjoy hearing themselves reinforced by viewpoints they agree with already.

Bobbo, you're a prime example of the sort of fool who uses religion as a blindfold to hide from reality. Should you ever decide to become slightly less ignorant, start by looking into Pascal's Wager...not only would it give you insight into how full of holes your argument is, but it might (and I use the word very optimistically) open your eyes to concepts that would help you use your brain, or at least realize that thinking isn't against "God"s will.

[Triple_D_Bet]

For those who see the deal as unfair. Lets say you go down to somewhere, oh, I dont know, say the dominican republic and some fancy resort. You pay a working girl a set "rate" for a weekend of wild, relentless, sex. On the street, internet, phone whatever you come to a solid agreement on exactly how much money will be exchanged in return for the an all you can eat booty buffett.

She arrives, you meet up and give her the money for the weekend. You fool around a minute or two and she then demands more money even though she agreed to an all you can hump a thon. She then says she needs more money because your terms for banging were unreasonable because you want to much. She refuses to abide by her agreement and claims you are the one being unreasonable.

Can't really blame the client as the terms were clearly laid out before the transaction took place, the native girl is obviously to blame as she cannot just arbitrarily decide that the terms were "unethical"

[JAKEPEAVY21]

People need to be held accountable for their actions, plain and simple.

Hard to understand how anyone can stick up for continuous scamming.

[bobbywaves]

For those who see the deal as fair, let's say you're a drug addict craving an 8 ball. But there's a minor problem, you're broke. No worries...your dealer offers to spot you the 8 ball for a repayment of $1,000, when your tax refund hits next week. You initially think, hey $1,000, WTF dude? But the need for coke overpowers any rational thought, so you accept.

CS, it's time for rehab...Otherwise, find yourself a fair dealer.

[Straight Cash]

For those who see the deal as unfair. Lets say you go down to somewhere, oh, I dont know, say the dominican republic and some fancy resort. You pay a working girl a set "rate" for a weekend of wild, relentless, sex. On the street, internet, phone whatever you come to a solid agreement on exactly how much money will be exchanged in return for the an all you can eat booty buffett.

She arrives, you meet up and give her the money for the weekend. You fool around a minute or two and she then demands more money even though she agreed to an all you can hump a thon. She then says she needs more money because your terms for banging were unreasonable because you want to much. She refuses to abide by her agreement and claims you are the one being unreasonable.

Can't really blame the client as the terms were clearly laid out before the transaction took place, the native girl is obviously to blame as she cannot just arbitrarily decide that the terms were "unethical"

Can we get working girls added to the SBR store?

[bobbywaves]

start by looking into Pascal's Wager.

Ok, I'm long into it. Of course, the wager you speak of is nowhere to be found.

I don't think Mpacs wants to lose 29k to me, like you did.

[frankzig]

For those who see the deal as unfair. Lets say you go down to somewhere, oh, I dont know, say the dominican republic and some fancy resort. You pay a working girl a set "rate" for a weekend of wild, relentless, sex. On the street, internet, phone whatever you come to a solid agreement on exactly how much money will be exchanged in return for the an all you can eat booty buffett.

She arrives, you meet up and give her the money for the weekend. You fool around a minute or two and she then demands more money even though she agreed to an all you can hump a thon. She then says she needs more money because your terms for banging were unreasonable because you want to much. She refuses to abide by her agreement and claims you are the one being unreasonable.

Can't really blame the client as the terms were clearly laid out before the transaction took place, the native girl is obviously to blame as she cannot just arbitrarily decide that the terms were "unethical"

ask warren sapp how this turns out

[Triple_D_Bet]

For those who see the deal as fair, let's say you're a drug addict craving an 8 ball. But there's a minor problem, you're broke. No worries...your dealer offers to spot you the 8 ball for a repayment of $1,000, when your tax refund hits next week. You initially think, hey $1,000, WTF dude? But the need for coke overpowers any rational thought, so you accept.

CS, it's time for rehab...Otherwise, find yourself a fair dealer.

Although it doesn't make the point you probably thought it would, you're not far off here.

Ok, I'm long into it. Of course, the wager you speak of is nowhere to be found.

I don't think Mpacs wants to lose 29k to me, like you did.

I don't know as much about Mpasch's life as Pascal's (which is kinda sad considering Mpasch is undoubtedly more fun to hang around these days), but it's safe to say that the only thing you have in common with Pascal is you're both wrong on one count

[bobbywaves]

I don't know as much about Mpasch's life as Pascal's (which is kinda sad considering Mpasch is undoubtedly more fun to hang around these days), but it's safe to say that the only thing you have in common with Pascal is you're both wrong on one count

A usual, have no clue what you're talking about.

[downsouth]

Can we get working girls added to the SBR store?

Got sammy looking it. That along with stripper grams.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

doesn't the Bible frown upon hookers?

[Triple_D_Bet]

A usual, have no clue what you're talking about.

Smartest thing you've said in a long time

doesn't the Bible frown upon hookers?

New versions do....original scripture called for "him without sin to bust his stones first". Some meaning was lost in translation, and Jesus' playboy lifestyle was overshadowed by his don't-be-a-dick mentality

[smitch124]

If I recall one of the angriest times in the Bible for Jesus is when he railed against the MoneyLenders. Just Sayin'

[brainfreeze]

If I recall one of the angriest times in the Bible for Jesus is when he railed against the MoneyLenders. Just Sayin'

They were changing money in the temple, Mitch ... Trying to make a mockery of God.

[brainfreeze]

doesn't the Bible frown upon hookers?

Where does all this hooker talk come from ? Kind of sick of hearing about it when talking about God but that's the perverted mind for ya.

[brainfreeze]

Smartest thing you've said in a long time



New versions do....original scripture called for "him without sin to bust his stones first". Some meaning was lost in translation, and Jesus' playboy lifestyle was overshadowed by his don't-be-a-dick mentality

Not cool tripper, I don't make fun of your beliefs .. but hey, your life do what you want with it.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Where does all this hooker talk come from ? Kind of sick of hearing about it when talking about God but that's the perverted mind for ya.

word has it that bobbywaves brought a hooker with him to the bash a few weeks ago.

[brainfreeze]

word has it that bobbywaves brought a hooker with him to the bash a few weeks ago.

Yea, seen that in a thread... He rather hang out with hookers then play cards. That's up to him, I think he said that because the others there, didn't want to hang out with him and instead of being hurt by that he'd rather sound cool... People here can be hurtful though, just comes with the element ... Whhhatever

[Triple_D_Bet]

Not cool tripper, I don't make fun of your beliefs .. but hey, your life do what you want with it.

Not making fun of your beliefs, or at least not you specifically for holding them...but I do think the greatest story ever told would work better with some revisions. I think "Lamb" by Christopher Moore gets the message across in a more memorable and certainly easier-to-digest format, highly recommend giving it a read sometime.

That said, all are welcome to have some fun with my beliefs, so long as it's funny...Billy Joel had the right idea I think

[bobbywaves]

word has it that bobbywaves brought a hooker with him to the bash a few weeks ago.

I don't pay for pussy like some on here....On vacation, I opt to play with pussy than play the same poker I play everyday.