Suppose I had the Sports Almanac for 2016 in my hands.......

[TheCentaur]

only a handful of bettor even think to arb. it can even get you banned at most books. so lets say what you say happens (which is unlikely since most super bowls are blowouts).... you make a million dollars but what about the other 364 days?

even the most profitable books only make couple million per year. plus there's potential to losing due to bad lines.

otoh there's no risk to betting so why bother with booking?

If ur offering arbs for the losing side you will get a ton of action on that side. You can do it as a book in vegas and online. There is no way if ur offering a point better but for a losing side you won't have most of your action on that side. Once word gets out and ur not limiting the money will pour in. By the time the year is up and they realize they keep losing at ur book the year is over and you have piles of cash.

Arbing is done by more than a handful of bettors, and they bet many times more than ur average bettor so they can make money.

Plus you are going to be limited at how much you can win betting it urself. Few books will let you win over a million on a parlay, and per game you wont be able to get down over 1million very often even using beards and all ur outs. Why not triple the profits by booking in vegas and online?

[crustyme]

you pay $1 billion for the almanac.

tell me how you will make that back and be profitable bookmaking only.

go.

[TheCentaur]

you pay $1 billion for the almanac.

tell me how you will make that back and be profitable bookmaking only.

go.

Well when you consider that between NFL,NBA,NHL,MLB,NCAAF,NCAAB,MMA,Boxing,e tc. you have around 20,000 betting events (spreads, totals, mls) for the year, if you can make about 100k per event between your Vegas and online book you are looking at grossing 2 billion.

Keep in mind that for the minority out there who recognize how sharp you are, they aren't going to be betting the winning side at ur book, they will bet it elsewhere that has the better number

Granted 100k per event might be tough, but so would trying to win 2billion betting it urself

[stevenash]

[crustyme]

Well when you consider that between NFL,NBA,NHL,MLB,NCAAF,NCAAB,MMA,Boxing,e tc. you have around 20,000 betting events (spreads, totals, mls) for the year, if you can make about 100k per event between your Vegas and online book you are looking at grossing 2 billion.

Keep in mind that for the minority out there who recognize how sharp you are, they aren't going to be betting the winning side at ur book, they will bet it elsewhere that has the better number

Granted 100k per event might be tough, but so would trying to win 2billion betting it urself

$2 billion when each vegas casinos are making $2 million per year?

riiiiiiight.

$100k on 10 team parlay pays over $67 million. multiply that by 17 weeks. that's over $1 billion. now do the same for college football, nba, and cbb. we're talking BILLIONS.

[TheCentaur]

$2 billion when each vegas casinos are making $2 million per year?

riiiiiiight.

$100k on 10 team parlay pays over $67 million. multiply that by 17 weeks. that's over $1 billion. now do the same for college football, nba, and cbb. we're talking BILLIONS.

What sportsbook takes action on a bet that pays $67 million? Say you find one and ur parlay hits. You either won't be able to bet next week or the place is out of business

Then there's taxes

I think the correct answer is 1 billion is way too much to pay for a 1 year sports almanac from the future

[crustyme]

What sportsbook takes action on a bet that pays $67 million? Say you find one and ur parlay hits. You either won't be able to bet or the place is out of business

there's hundreds of books around the world + online books. bet the max at each book.

[TheCentaur]

there's hundreds of books around the world + online books. bet the max at each book.

It would be a one time thing

I mean lets say you find 200 reputable online and brick and mortar books which is a stretch

You would have to avg 335k per week from all of them

Not going to happen. They either ban you or cap a max payout after week 1

Bottom line 1 billion is too much for the almanac

[crustyme]

It would be a one time thing

I mean lets say you find 200 reputable online and brick and mortar books which is a stretch

You would have to avg 335k per week from all of them

Not going to happen. They either ban you or cap a max payout after week 1

Bottom line 1 billion is too much for the almanac

there's 150 sportsbooks in nevada alone all legally bound by law to pay out. if they ban u, you can always use runners.

$1 billion is a bargain for the almanac, considering you can win several billion.

[brainfreeze]

..you guys are arguing like y'all are harboring that almanac, which one of you got it..

[TheCentaur]

there's 150 sportsbooks in nevada alone all legally bound by law to pay out. if they ban u, you can always use runners.

$1 billion is a bargain for the almanac, considering you can win several billion.

How many of those take 100k 10 team parlays? I'm not even sure any do

Say you want to win billions like you say, let's say 10 billion

Even if you can find 200 reputable books that take that action and pay out you would have to avg taking 1 million per week from each. Not going to happen

Not to mention you have to pay 50% in taxes, and good luck depreciating a billion dollar sports almanac from the future on your tax return

[crustyme]

How many of those take 100k 10 team parlays? I'm not even sure any do

Say you want to win billions like you say, let's say 10 billion

Even if you can find 200 reputable books that take that action and pay out you would have to avg taking 1 million per week from each. Not going to happen

Not to mention you have to pay 50% in taxes, and good luck depreciating a billion dollar sports almanac from the future on your tax return

pretty sure they all accept $500 parlays. 200 x $500 = $100,000.

no taxes in bahamas or online.

this is just one of many methods to accumulate billions. bookmaking is just not one of those options.

[TheCentaur]

Doesn't matter how you break it up, you can't take 1 mill per week out of every book

Can't use beards either you think you can find 100 people to trust with that kind of money? Loss prevention would be on ur methods like white on rice real quick too

[crustyme]

Doesn't matter how you break it up, you can't take 1 mill per week out of every book

Can't use beards either you think you can find 100 people to trust with that kind of money? Loss prevention would be on ur methods like white on rice real quick too

i guess you've never heard of billy walters.

[TheCentaur]

i guess you've never heard of billy walters.

Does he take billions out of sportsbooks in a year? I'm guessing no

[crustyme]

Does he take billions out of sportsbooks in a year? I'm guessing no

he would if he owned the almanac.

[NrmlCurvSurfr]

You guys need to check my post from pg1...the value is not in betting on the winning team...if you had the almanac, the value would be in the form of leverage, holding an industry(many actually) "hostage"...lol @ parlays and limits and all that. You guys need to step up your thinking game.

[TheCentaur]

You guys need to check my post from pg1...the value is not in betting on the winning team...if you had the almanac, the value would be in the form of leverage, holding an industry(many actually) "hostage"...lol @ parlays and limits and all that. You guys need to step up your thinking game.

Ok I'm interested please elaborate on getting hot dog vendors and team doctors involved

[NrmlCurvSurfr]

^if you have no clue what I mean, then there is no way I can spend the time explaining. But think about this, if everyone knew the outcome of an event, how many books will offer action? How many people will watch? how many people will pay to go see games?...my point from pg 1 is that, you can put a value on knowing the future, but it extends far beyond just being able to bet on the winning team.

[TheCentaur]

^if you have no clue what I mean, then there is no way I can spend the time explaining. But think about this, if everyone knew the outcome of an event, how many books will offer action? How many people will watch? how many people will pay to go see games?...my point from pg 1 is that, you can put a value on knowing the future, but it extends far beyond just being able to bet on the winning team.

Ah I think I get what ur saying

You could blackmail the whole sports industry and all industries involved by removing the unknown outcome for the fans

I think there are a few problems with this though. First, people might tune in out of curiosity at your nostardamus like talents just like people have to look at a car wreck as they drive by. Second, divulging the results ahead of time are sure to alter the outcomes, especially if billion dollar industries stand to lose a fortune (they will just start throwing games)

[NrmlCurvSurfr]

^you have just taken this convo to another level! How much can Nostradamus like talents be worth? It would be the birth of a new industry. Sports would revolve around YOU. That has to be worth way more than you could ever hope to make betting on the winner of a "known" event.

[TheCentaur]

If a person could travel faster than the speed of light but was blind could he/she still time travel?

[NrmlCurvSurfr]

^yes, if they somehow maintain a speed above C for long enough, and manage to stay in one piece, they could travel into the future. Possibly far enough to reach a time where blindness could be cured!

[NrmlCurvSurfr]

^in fact, you don't even need to be traveling at C to time travel. Although for "practical" time travel, the faster the better.

[TheCentaur]

I think there is now enough info in this thread for someone with a little ambition to acquire a sports almanac from the future and make money from it

[RiverBoatGambler]

You guys are mainly retarded.

The book was free. Didn't cost a dime.

It's for 2016, you have one year to make a killing. Fack all that opening up an online book, blah, blah, blah. You guys realize that you can bet all over the world, right? I would travel all around placing max bets using runners. Collect my money and go laughing to an offshore, tax free account.

[dbartinbwgc]

Besides winning all the games, sides, totals, props,
How about the contests march madness Perfect bracket pays 1 billion
streak for cash, LVH football contest, station casino great give away
BEAT THE PRICK, fantasy football and baseball, euro-soccer, tennis
free pizza for life from SBRbook
and all the other online/offshore contests
Then since you got such a great REP one the one year
the next year you sell for big money your WTF picks like
Lang did

could also talk to the winners that you knew were going to win
and have them hire you as a life coach for a year and say you dont get paid
unless they win

[jtoler]

You dont need the whole year nor the whole day, just one game to know the outcome would sell for millions, a whole year would be priceless.

[a4u2fear]

If the outcomes were known and came true, it's likely teams would find out one way or another and do something different to try modify it