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bob, i kno what cool looks like, you ain't it...
just sayin
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I'll take my chances with Catholicism over your Protestant beliefs any day. On the bright side, you'll be cured of your brainfreeze instantly where you're going for all eternity. "Just sayin."
These 2 vids sum up why Catholic is the way to go. Of course we don't see Jesus hanging out in Protestant Heaven with the snobs, He was having a blast in Catholic Heaven:
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Catholics are going to the lake of fire, Catholics are a cult
the poop is an nwo operative obviously, the poop believes in evolution
Cathlolics ignore the Bible and teach works to be saved
The bible teaches salvation by faith
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It's always funny to me when people within the "same religion" don't even agree. Lmao
Sunni and Shiite Muslims want to kill each other and within Christianity different sects have different views and think everyone else is going to hell...
This is one of my main problems with religion. It's impossible for all these different religions to be correct. Even in the unlikely event one religion is right, that still means 99% of you are wrong.
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and you let it be known all the facts were presented before you .. it's a cop out " there's a thousand religions " waaaahh wahh, roll on with that .. people have answered your questions, and have been a servant to try to help you. NO ONE IS GETTING PAID HERE. i get frustrated with you doa... kind of tired of bumping my head against the wall along side you ...
wish you would drop your pride, and what you think you know ...and TRUST WHAT I AM TELLING YOU...
ONLY IF YOU KNEW ..
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I agree, and it's hard for me to even keep up anymore ... was a calvinist even around 600 years ago?
ijust don't like the fact that something as small but as big as predestination can do what it does to the church as a whole ... because we (any particular) doesn't have it all figured out ....
there comes division ... and people like bigdofa sayin " there's to much God, how am i supposed to figure this out "? ... to many churches, to many divisions, and denoms, and mormons, catholic, jehovahs wits...
Predestination is a big topic, i have been in some heated discussions about it, and is the reason why some have been deterred from belief today ... and it's understandable..
God seems to go to work with these types though. Those so smart, it challenges their understanding ... Gods so awesome man hahahaa, smh... my life's is beyond a movie, LOVE IT, Thank you Father
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We’re like two carpenters debating the length of a board while using different standards of measurement.
What authority do Protestants trust to tell them which writings belong to the New Testament? The logic is plain: to have an infallible New Testament, you need an infallible authority to say which writings belong in the New Testament and which do not. The "table of contents" must be divinely inspired as well.
As Catholics, we know that Jesus did not give the apostles a book. He gave them the deposit of faith, which has been explicated over time through the Sacred Scriptures, Sacred Tradition, and the Magisterium. This is a consistent position, in harmony with the real history of the Christian movement and with Jesus' words that "he who hears you, hears me" (Luke 10:16) as the Church has spoken through councils and synods. This confirms our confidence in the canon of Scripture.Comment -
I believe in science. Science only answers things that it is confident in. Other things science says it doesn't know. Science is humble unlike religion that has an answer for everything regardless of how outlandish the story is.
You don't have to keep responding to me. You're not going to change my mind and I'm not going to change yours. If you want to keep discussing it I'm all for it. There is no need to get frustrated.Comment -
Anything which is everything with a hierarchy is inherently evil by design, that is if it gets into the wrong hands, the result will be evil. Every govt,religion, law enforcement, ............ has been put in the wrong hands so no one religion, govt. law enforcement..........is any less evil then the other, which is why in politics we are forced (or enforced perhaps) to choose the lesser of 2 evils
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Freeze agrees there's a God. So at least he got one thing right, which is more than I can say for you.
That's gr8 for me, thanks.Oh and yes Bobby, I'll bring up this thread at SBR if I'm ever in front of God... Unfortunately it won't help you any.
Unlikely God will grant you an interview, after not believing in Him your whole life. If He grants you an interview somehow, I'm sure God will point out how myself & others tried to teach you in this thread. And since you chose not to believe in Him, you didn't make the Book of Life. Then you'll be promptly escorted to Satan.
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God judges on intention,man judges on action. Not my intention to insult God,only those who hide behind it. BigDofB has nothing to worry aboutFreeze agrees there's a God. So at least he got one thing right, which is more than I can say for you.
That's gr8 for me, thanks. Unfortunately it won't help you any.
Unlikely God will grant you an interview, after not believing in Him your whole life. If He grants you an interview somehow, I'm sure God will point out how myself & others tried to teach you in this thread. And since you chose not to believe in Him, you didn't make the Book of Life. Then you'll be promptly escorted to Satan.
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So living a good life based on your religious beliefs, is somehow a "recipe for disaster?" How so?
If my beliefs are wrong somehow, I still lived a good life. I'll be 6 feet under with no afterlife, just like non believers.
When my beliefs are proven correct upon death, I pity the Atheists who chose to play Russian roulette with their eternal souls.Comment -
They wrote books .... as for authority, these were a Hebrew tribal people, (AUTHORITY WAS 3 to 4 WITNESSES) why do you think there is 4 accounts of the Gospel matthew, mark, luke, & john? it wasn't catholic bud, catholic wasn't thought of when Jesus would read from the OLD TESTAMENT. The New Testament were the Gospel and letters written to different churches with rev(prophecy) etc., 70% of which were written by paul... not peter btw...
heres a nice translation seaweed....
seaweed, how can you be so smart yet so blind?Comment -
So for example: if someone "intends" on killing another person due to their daughter being raped. But changed their mind later after cooling down & coming to their senses, allowing the police/judicial system to handle it.
God will judge that person negatively on a normal bad "intention" & reaction, which wasn't acted upon?
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Can think anything you want, would be judged if you followed through so God would be happy if you don't stoop to that level. Better example would be a guy hits and kills someone on accident and charged with manslaughter and gets 5 years. Think God would forgive him but society won't.So for example: if someone "intends" on killing another person due to their daughter being raped. But changed their mind later after cooling down & coming to their senses, allowing the police/judicial system to handle it.
God will judge that person negatively on a normal bad "intention" & reaction, which wasn't acted upon?Comment -
Could be for some, not you. Their are radicals in every religion who think they are living a good life,that's where there's disaster. Speaking only in generalizations,not about youSo living a good life based on your religious beliefs, is somehow a "recipe for disaster?" How so?
If my beliefs are wrong somehow, I still lived a good life. I'll be 6 feet under with no afterlife, just like non believers.
When my beliefs are proven correct upon death, I pity the Atheists who chose to play Russian roulette with their eternal souls.Comment -
If you do good deeds, all is well. It's the do-gooders that have to worry about being judged harshly.Comment -
experience is pain... id rather have read the book on some of it. No, real wisdom, knowledge, and spiritual/understanding comes from God... how much time have you given the scriptures?
As for living in hell...i don't see it that way, hell to me, is agony, pain that knows no cease, bounds, or sleep... earth to me is a learning/test, trial ground, a battle ground, a war zone ... This is where the soul amongst flesh learns about our Creator, and distinguishes where the heart will stand, for Him or against ..Comment -
"What will happen is" so what now you're a prophet? If your God makes you believe that my life is wasted by trying to be good and trying to help those in need then that's your opinion, a pretty whacky one imo. People can believe in whatever they want. What makes you think that what you believe in is more correct than what anyone else believes in? Because you believe fables that were written thousands of years ago? The first page of this thread I thought you were pretty righteous but after reading some of your responses you seem more like a prickly guy who thinks he knows it all. Funny how some people on a little planet in an endless universe think they know all the correct answers lol.Comment -
Then i'll be the prick... whatever it takes for people to take this seriously. If you seriously want to believe whatever you conjur up, (there is a god, he's my god and I'm going to make up the scriptures now about him kind of god) that's on you...i don't have time for it,
as for me being righteous, i ain't perfect dude, i try to be ...im human, just like you...and i made it perfectly clear im not a prophet... im just a witness, a messenger ... but im glad you took the time to read from the beginning, and you are still here, interested, and reading ... i'll give you this, you are at least in better position then those that believe in nothing ... and i don't mean to get on you, but when i talk, i do so premeditatedly... it's not something im thinking about and asking questions in my life, if you had read over the thread as you say you have, you would know i've been a witness to things man can't explain, and my testimony is a miracle in itself. Things go pass our everyday that people don't pick up until their conscious of it, im just glad if nothing else to provoke thought to be conscience of God because Jesus is conscience of you.
but if you want to know something...ask, im sure if i can't help, someone will.Last edited by brainfreeze; 02-27-17, 03:54 AM.Comment -
We are not in hell, and we all get out by dying.
By dying and suffering we become closer to God, think about this...
what could be greater "knowledge", or "wisdom" gained, than dying,
and living again by grace of God ?
The Who said it right.. They call me the Seeker, I been searching low and high...
I won't get to get what I'm after, til the day I die...
Until that, unless more revelation takes place, that's how it is.
We have been taught to watch, what to look for. We are not surprised
in what has transpired thus far, it is all within the confines of both scripture
and tradition. Tradition is what held the Church together. It is what drove away
all the mad heresies - the plots of pagans and obstinate Jews, the "knowledge"
of Gnostics and Eastern mystery schools, even the conspiracies of illuminists
who are nothing new under the sun. True Christianity is based on the Authority
of the Apostles and their chosen successors. It always has been. Acts and the Didache
show this, the Letters show it, Irenaues and Clement and Ignatius of Antioch wrote that the
Church in Rome founded by Peter and Paul is the seat of Christian authority, and it still is,
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but thinking about it, this train of thought is healthy. You aren't for (because you haven't built that relationship yet) and you have no reason to be against. So, there's nothing but time and opportunity to find how real God (Jesus and the Bible) are, considering this is your position.
Disregard the lukewarm post because that is for people who think they can remain in sin (not wanting to fix the problems that make them sin) this would be considered lukewarm.Last edited by brainfreeze; 02-27-17, 05:24 PM.Comment -
We receive gifts ... we don't deserve them, and we don't earn them... salvation and grace through faith.
By faith, the Holy Spirit will come into our lives helping change and mold the heart to the people we are meant to be. We do works, they aren't only of our own though, it is He who has made able.Comment -
Everyone stands before him, regardless if they believe or notSo for example: if someone "intends" on killing another person due to their daughter being raped. But changed their mind later after cooling down & coming to their senses, allowing the police/judicial system to handle it.
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I meant to reply to some one else I think, but the point stands...Comment -
Thanks. This was one of my points way back in this thread.
I don't lie. I don't steal. I don't cheat.
I help people when I can and I would give someone the shirt off of my back. I live a good life.
I see all of these people that "claim" to be Catholics, Baptist, etc. and quite frankly, I lead a better life than a lot of them. A lot of these religions are hypocritical.
Why do I goto hell for soley refusing to fake a belief in God? Deep down in my heart and inside my brain, I don't believe. What I know about science refutes a lot of the Bible. When I read the Bible there are a lot of contradicting verses and things that don't make sense.
If there is a God, all I'm doing is using the very brain he created for me. If there is a God, surely he would appreciate how I lived my life. If there is a God surely he would appreciate how honest I was.
I read the Bible and study all religions to try to understand. THats why I don't believe any of them. Every group has a different sales pitch. Basic logic proves that they can't all be right.
If I'm wrong I goto hell. At least I have the guts to let people know where I stand. I don't fake things. I don't help the old lady carry groceries to her car bc I think it'll get me into heaven. I don't help people out because I think it's getting me brownie points for heaven. I do these things because I care about people.
If there is a God that would accept convicted felons and murderers over me just because they proclaim they believe, I wouldn't want to spend eternity with that God anyway.
If there is a God that is that vain with himself to overlook all the good I have done because I wouldn't worship him, I would want to spend eternity wth that God either.
IMO a lot of people have doubts about god and religion but don't have the guts to say it.Last edited by BigDofBA; 02-27-17, 09:42 PM.Comment
