GOD

[recon1]

you realize if you throw enough darts, some will hit, right? you also realize that the bible committee chose what to put in and leave out ... yes, in my opinion, you are extremely gullible to believe whats in that book...

…….But Buddhism is like a broken clock, it's correct twice a day. Buddhism is of the devil, Because the devil mixes a little truth (Philosophies) with a bunch of lies to trap the gullible. Just don't be intolerent and open you're mind. Maybe the right circumstances haven't happened for you to open your eyes.
I can say i was athiest/agnostic when i fell into a situation that changed my way of thinking.
Good-luck with whatever you choose

[recon1]

Yes, but if your a white collar criminal, I would repent " turn away " and find new career, or for the drug dealer, thief, or prostitute .., When one comes to Jesus, we no longer serve sin, it's below us... God is now our master, either we can serve God or " the other one " ...
There is no middle..

True, i should have reworded my comment. Thanks for reminder.

[recon1]

Prove it.

Onus is on you.

[recon1]

Only thing burning to the ground is Christianity which has had its balls chopped off by Charles Darwin and modern scientists.

Nope, Christianity is growing by the day. Darwin? really? ok

[bigtymer56]

There's atheist becoming Christians all the time ...

http://famous101.com/famous-atheists-turned-christian

So I don't know what you mean there.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10626076/Is-America-losing-faith-Atheism-on-the-rise-but-still-in-the-shadows.html

[Swaggy P]

This tree you speak of was the tree of knowledge of good and evil... Big deal Swaggy, very big deal... YAHWEH gave them one command ... to not eat of this tree, they will die.. Satan does what he does best and lied to Eve saying " surely you will not die " which is a double meaning lie.. That's how satan works he comes with a little truth wrapped in a whole lot of lies .. because we actually don't die " spiritually " either we go to hell or heaven.. and I'm sure there's different levels of both, Scriptures talk about a " third heaven " .. so most likely there's different parts of hell as well.. So yes now that they bit off the tree " Adam and Eve ".. We have to prove ourselves on earth and our heart and intentions ... because of this knowledge

So you actually believe in this whole Adam and Eve myth? You actually believe all of humanity is descended from one couple?

This bullshit has been disproven by scientists over and over. It is now something to be laughed at. This whole myth of Adam and Eve is reason why all of Christianity collapses like an old house built on shaky foundation. The religion was basically built on a myth. Sad really.

[Swaggy P]

There's atheist becoming Christians all the time ...

http://famous101.com/famous-atheists-turned-christian

So I don't know what you mean there.

They sound like emotionally weak desperate individuals choosing their hearts over their brains.

[scumbag]

Reality is nobody knows. It's an circular argument without end.

Respect whatever it is others choose to believe and follow the golden rule "Treat others as they want to be treated" and life is good

Generally, I'd agree, but when they start trying to govern our country with this shit, when the American fascists hijack a religion and use it as a tool to divide the masses. It makes me see bible thumpers as gullible simpletons who I have zero respect for.

If I may speak bluntly

[scumbag]

God is not a liberal kinda place where everyone gets a trophy. Just gotta accept the gift Jesus offers confess your sins and turn away from them. Really is pretty simple. He's not expecting perfection from us, just repentance.

Jesus is left of Marx, you conservative, biblethumping simpleton.

your hero loved the poor, cast the rich to hell. Deal with it.

can you guys believe there's millions of morons in this country who subscribe to this 'prosperity theology' bullshit?

[Swaggy P]

Nope, Christianity is growing by the day. Darwin? really? ok

Growing where? In third world countries where the desperate poor and illiterate masses are manipulated by missionaries with promises of food and money? Meanwhile in the western world....

And yeah Charles Darwin. The whole decline of Christianity started when the cold hard truth of evolution came about. In the western world, it is somewhat like a fairy tale now with the exception of hillbillies living in trailer parks who are too dumb and close minded to realize it.

[scumbag]

Growing where? In third world countries where the desperate poor and illiterate masses are manipulated by missionaries with promises of food and money? Meanwhile in the western world....

And yeah Charles Darwin. The whole decline of Christianity started when the cold hard truth of evolution came about. In the western world, it is somewhat like a fairy tale now with the exception of dumb hillbillies living in trailer parks who are too dumb and close minded to realize it.

I believe he's right. I'm America, more people identify as Christians then in the 50's. Fewer people actually go to church, as a %. Kind of seems like 'base covering' behavior.

[Swaggy P]

I believe he's right. I'm America, more people identify as Christians then in the 50's. Fewer people actually go to church, as a %. Kind of seems like 'base covering' behavior.

There's a huge difference between a nominal Christian and a real one. I would say most in America are of the former type. No way in hell can most of the myths in the bible be taken seriously in the 21st century although I must say America is pretty dumb compared to other western countries.

[brainfreeze]

Growing where? In third world countries where the desperate poor and illiterate masses are manipulated by missionaries with promises of food and money? Meanwhile in the western world....

And yeah Charles Darwin. The whole decline of Christianity started when the cold hard truth of evolution came about. In the western world, it is somewhat like a fairy tale now with the exception of hillbillies living in trailer parks who are too dumb and close minded to realize it.

Mans philosophy or God ? Hmmmm, I'll go with God.. He left stuff like this in scripture to beware of..

Colossians 2:8


Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

If some of you would just give the Bible the time of day instead of just hatred towards it...you could get somewhere... and tell you the truth, it doesn't matter what you believe, the people who run the show believe and chose their side... It's up to the individual if you want to stay in fantasy land... or want the truth..

[Swaggy P]

brainfreeze, I want the truth which is why I rejected Christianity a few years ago. You're telling me I'm living in a fantasy world when much of the material written in the bible is myth. Adam and Eve is a myth. The genesis story of how the world was created in 6 days is a myth. The talking snake is a myth. Noah's ark is a myth. I could go on and on. This has all been debunked by modern science. If you choose to be ignorant then so be it, but I'm telling you there is no possible way in my sane rational mind can I ever believe in shit like that. No way at all.

With you on the other hard, I say if Christianity makes you happy and a better individual in the end then I say stick with it as long as you're not like most bible thumping maniacs (in america because that's not an issue where I live) who make it their life's mission to put down other religions and control the state.

[scumbag]

Hey brain freeze,

At least put up some quotes talking about the disdain for the rich and love of the poor and downtrodden that the bible is full of and modern Conservatives (which is who I most identify religious people as) seem to ignore.

id say 8/10 pro bible thumpers in this thread are republican, regardless of economic status. They should know that the words of their hero are being perverted. Jesus obv a complete fcking 'libtard'.

And whats your opinion on these prosperity theology people?

[Ghenghis Kahn]

lol you and your bible verses. stop being fanatical pal. bible is just an embellished story of the jews. don't get so caught up in a fiction.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

earth is just a speck in this vast universe.

even if god existed (not talking about jesus' dad or allah), i highly doubt he'd care so much about a speck.

[brainfreeze]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...e-shadows.html

.... Now this is funny..

Science, might I add half full of lies science " like evolution " is full of atheist, they run the show ... but they are hiding, lol... Your rewarded as a atheist, if you choose Christ, living amongst the " scientific community " will be hard, your work will get covered, they will steal from you and lie to you, no reward for your efforts, ask the guy that made the MRI machine ... or Tesla... not the other way around bigtymer...

[brainfreeze]

brainfreeze, I want the truth which is why I rejected Christianity a few years ago. You're telling me I'm living in a fantasy world when much of the material written in the bible is myth. Adam and Eve is a myth. The genesis story of how the world was created in 6 days is a myth. The talking snake is a myth. Noah's ark is a myth. I could go on and on. This has all been debunked by modern science. If you choose to be ignorant then so be it, but I'm telling you there is no possible way in my sane rational mind can I ever believe in shit like that. No way at all.

With you on the other hard, I say if Christianity makes you happy and a better individual in the end then I say stick with it as long as you're not like most bible thumping maniacs (in america because that's not an issue where I live) who make it their life's mission to put down other religions and control the state.

Swaggy, it's no myth,... I assure you, this stuffs the real deal... There's stories of a global flood all over the world, and some of them don't even believe in the same gods... and thank you for the kind words Swaggy..
I don't come to fight you guys.. I fight against the false spirits that lead these types..Masons, templars, rosey crosses, satanist, and people with these false spirits that are conscience... just made their choice.. A new world order will come... are you ready ?

http://saintsalive.com/resourcelibrary/freemasonry/masonic-rootschrist-solomon-or-baal

who are distorting truth... and leading people astray, there's only two ways God or satans ..but ever heard that saying there's many roads that lead to hell only one leads to heaven... It's because there's so many ways to go to hell, ...self,lies, money, materials, power, greed, lust, and many more .. Only one way to heaven, and that's through Christ..and the only way to Him, is to confess, repent, be born again and literally over come the world, as I have... Hollywood or those football fields could burn down tomorrow... I wouldn't flinch, would not bother me... When I see some one hungry or without, or all these children in foster homes...

THAT BOTHERS ME.. I love people... I care less about the world

[scumbag]

brainfreeze, I want the truth which is why I rejected Christianity a few years ago. You're telling me I'm living in a fantasy world when much of the material written in the bible is myth. Adam and Eve is a myth. The genesis story of how the world was created in 6 days is a myth. The talking snake is a myth. Noah's ark is a myth. I could go on and on. This has all been debunked by modern science. If you choose to be ignorant then so be it, but I'm telling you there is no possible way in my sane rational mind can I ever believe in shit like that. No way at all.

With you on the other hard, I say if Christianity makes you happy and a better individual in the end then I say stick with it as long as you're not like most bible thumping maniacs (in america because that's not an issue where I live) who make it their life's mission to put down other religions and control the state.

Only a few years ago? How old are you?

im 31, I've been an atheist before I even knew what it was. I think I was 10 when I came up with the Santa for grown ups analogy.

unfortunetly I was raised by stupid people who made me feel like a fcking weirdo for not 'believing'. So I spent the rest of my childhood as a 'repressed intellectual' who never voiced my opinions for fear of being thought 'different', and connected with people by being a 'meathead' athlete.

I'm sure I wasn't the only kid who had to deal with that, and I grew up in washinton state. I can't even imagine how bad it is in in the Bible Belt.

truth is, nobody if it's true. As a gambler, I'm making the biggest bet ever (my life) that it's bullshit. I'd say a proper line is like 49/1 against god being real. def not the 'flip' that some would have you believe.

[raydog]

brainfreeze, when did you first realize you would be a hardcore christian and the bible/god was all that mattered? were you raised by a super religious family or have 1 out of the billions of prayers you ask for, get answered or something? im just curious as to how an adult reads whats in the bible and finds it logical... serious question, sir... im not trying to be a smart ass or anything.. just trying to understand what makes people, as dedicated to christ as you, so sure of everything...

[brainfreeze]

brainfreeze, when did you first realize you would be a hardcore christian and the bible/god was all that mattered? were you raised by a super religious family or have 1 out of the billions of prayers you ask for, get answered or something? im just curious as to how an adult reads whats in the bible and finds it logical... serious question, sir... im not trying to be a smart ass or anything.. just trying to understand what makes people, as dedicated to christ as you, so sure of everything...

Glad you ask Raydog...

When I was say 14, started getting in a lot of trouble, wound up in juvi for weeks at a time. I was a outcast, I didn't quite fit in anywhere. My parents are catholic and I did go to catholic schools, where I never fit in as well. So one stint in juvi my probation officer told me if I screwed up I'm going away for at least 6 months. Screwed up immediately smoking weed, got caught with test that the p.o. popped on me.Then he gave me two option, jail or this bible boot camp, I went with the boot camp called "the way builders" where over a six month period I gave God my heart and soul, dedicating myself to not only read the bible but to rewrite it and do small labor jobs for the camp, it was the most structure I had in my life at 17.


God was instilling His words in me for serious battle later on in life. "I'm in tears thinking about it" I went on to successful finish the program and wrote a poem at 17 that prophesied my life at 28. My Golden birth year where it all got to real for me. I did good in the world for the first few weeks but had surrounded myself with the same not to smart people that just wanted to do what they wanted and before I knew it, I was selling drugs and robbing houses. I ended up in hunts correction facility at 17 the same year for robbing a house. I came out with a hard heart and was selling more drugs. I got caught again, went back to prison for another year. This time though I found something I loved and it was the lady I'm with now. I came out started my own lawn care business "still selling drugs, weed". All kinds of mess, being stabbed, pulling guns on people and people pulling them on me. nothing happened till Aug 2005 "hurricane Katrina". I went to Cali with my mother and girlfriend for six months, when I got back, it got even worse for me. A prescription pill addiction quickly escalated to me in the projects of New Orleans picking up herion,

I snorted the stuff for years and now was selling cocaine. I would still pray at night, He was listening but wasn't responding for His own reasons I guess. Then I had my beautiful baby boy, it absolutely started to change me, I didn't want him looking up to a drug dealer or nothing of the like, something had to change. I was able to drop back off the herion, for the lesser pills and zanx, was at a place that I was in control to a degree. I'm saying to myself what else can I do because I can't do this any longer, I didn't want to sell poison,

I want to be something my son can be proud of. A friend was going to a movie set and I thought... This is perfect I always wanted to be in the movies after being a featured extra with Dennis hopper in "double crossed" when I was real young. We signed up and was excepted to attend the set " Grudge match " where I went from being just a regular extra to a featured extra as they insisted. I had to hold a camera and sit at the ropes of the ring and act as if I'm taking pictures of Sylvester Stallone and Robert dinero, this weird vibe was on this set and I couldn't put my finger on it. Something was up and I was starting to feel humiliated. I didn't understand what was going on around me and it's hard to explain, then one of them walked past me in the ring " a star actor" and said I'm not that much of a satanist.....it all clicked,

I knew I wasn't living right but I knew I didn't want to be that. I was surrounded by directors and set managers moments later, asking me, why did I want to leave. I told them that my son was a little under the weather, which he was and I wanted my check for the day, one got real angry, was huffing and puffing, then says ...so you don't live to far from here eh?... My response was No, come and see me!! Was not scared at one instant just angry and upset. I left feeling like a failure, it was just one more thing I couldn't do.

I didn't know what to do, I did know this was a battle for my soul going on and I cried out on my knees to Jesus with the bible in front of me when I got home that night. I asked Him if He was watching and seeing all this, what was going on, I was in a panic like no other, a storm raging inside me, I opened the bible, it flipped to proverbs 15:3 The eyes of The Lord are in all places watching over the wicked and the good..... A peace instantly came over me, I was taking pain meds and anxiety meds, the next day, nothing, Praise Jesus! my life has never been the same Thank you Jesus Christ for delivering me from a world of sin.

My life is like a dream ray dog.. Everyday is something new, I knew what I was up against though so I expect it.... Even death, It is what it is...

[brainfreeze]

I used to smoke a lot of weed to... Everyday all day, pounds of dro at my leisure ... Now, I don't do drugs, none... God gives us power over ALL strongholds .. He will show us things beyond imagination .. Just last month I was praying in my backyard, when I finished and said amen... A bright light " like a camera flash " about as big as a car, was over top of a tree, it was soft on the eyes though, strange " because even a camera flash will make someone's eyes squint at least " but not this light ... it sat there for about three seconds.. then vanished ... I see wild stuff all the time, my mother sees visions.. She could pass you by at the mall or something, see something your wearing of " sentimental value, " that your heart cares about " and she can tell you who gave it to you, when you got, and sometimes even things that took place... She can't do it with everyone, just certain times... It just happens... God loves them...

[raydog]

hope you keep up the clean living... i dont know, personally, but have been around enough people with bad vices to know that its not easy to deal with..

i grew up baptist... best friends dad was a preacher... did church twice a week whether i wanted to go or not...i think i was less than 10 or so when i really had serious doubts about what i was reading... nothing was logical to my eyes and the reality of todays world and real life...

near me is st. judes childrens hospital... my mom worked there some and have had numerous gf's work there... but when i was maybe 12 or so, i witnessed a family rejoicing, praising god, screaming about answered prayers etc. because a spot had opened up for their kid... not sure if it was a cancer or some other disease... but shortly after, we saw another family leaving in tears...their kid had died... i thought, so let me get this straight, a God killed one kid and has totally buried this one family and the other family thinks their prayers have been answered? (in that roundabout way) i called bullshit... decided i would never waste my time with a prayer, bible or a church again...

there is plenty in the bible to teach the young about being nice/generous/good person...etc.. that i agree.., but, for me, there is just entirely too much that is out of the realm of rational possibility... ill trust in myself and make my own path...

again, with all that you have gone through, you seem like a really good guy... if it takes believing in something, to make a serious change in someones life, i am 110% all for it... if having faith and being scared of the Holy consequences keeps you out of trouble and helps you live a cleaner life... im all for that too... its just not for me... i need proof... others faith, a book(that i probably believe 20% of) and some stories of prayers answered, simply isnt enough for me...

[raydog]

i think being around so much unnecessary death (with what ive seen at sjh and at our regional Med, where they take the worse of the worse accident victims) puts the final dagger in any type of God belief for me... throw in the fact that, again, i simply cant wrap my head around any of the unrealistic stuff in the bible, its a done deal.

[brainfreeze]

hope you keep up the clean living... i dont know, personally, but have been around enough people with bad vices to know that its not easy to deal with..

i grew up baptist... best friends dad was a preacher... did church twice a week whether i wanted to go or not...i think i was less than 10 or so when i really had serious doubts about what i was reading... nothing was logical to my eyes and the reality of todays world and real life...

near me is st. judes childrens hospital... my mom worked there some and have had numerous gf's work there... but when i was maybe 12 or so, i witnessed a family rejoicing, praising god, screaming about answered prayers etc. because a spot had opened up for their kid... not sure if it was a cancer or some other disease... but shortly after, we saw another family leaving in tears...their kid had died... i thought, so let me get this straight, a God killed one kid and has totally buried this one family and the other family thinks their prayers have been answered? (in that roundabout way) i called bullshit... decided i would never waste my time with a prayer, bible or a church again...

there is plenty in the bible to teach the young about being nice/generous/good person...etc.. that i agree.., but, for me, there is just entirely too much that is out of the realm of rational possibility... ill trust in myself and make my own path...

again, with all that you have gone through, you seem like a really good guy... if it takes believing in something, to make a serious change in someones life, i am 110% all for it... if having faith and being scared of the Holy consequences keeps you out of trouble and helps you live a cleaner life... im all for that too... its just not for me... i need proof... others faith, a book(that i probably believe 20% of) and some stories of prayers answered, simply isnt enough for me...

Yeah, You sound like a nice guy yourself Raydog, so does your mom, she sounds like a special women.. But to make a statement about your response, I hear that a lot, a preacher skimming off the top, or why something bad happens, children in Ethiopia or Somalia starve, or children dying hit by drunk drivers or even cancer... Sin sucks Raydog... It really sucks, It is the cause of all our hurts and pains, all of this stuff happens because of sin, " example " look at king solomon, he had the world at his hands because God loved his father David, and then solomon even prayed for wisdom, God gave it to him, and even all the gold he could handle because he had the wisdom to do so, but then he got prideful, and wanted all those wives and prostitutes... God called to him a few times.. Told him not to do this.. Because these women will turn his heart, to worship their gods... solomon didn't listen, sure enough he started building alters and worshipping before false gods.. It was over, God told him because of this, Israel will split and be divided, God said he wouldn't do it in his reign because of his father David

Who God loved.. God said after solomons reign, it will be gone from his heirs reign... It's exactly what happened... so sometimes it's not the sins of the parents that their faith be tested, it could be or the parents grand parents...we have to show ourselves worthy and fit to inherit the kingdom of God.. Everything happens for a reason, this I'm sure of, children go to heaven anyway, they're the most pure hearted, the most innocent... Keep searching Raydog, I promise you, if you dedicate yourself to prayer and Gods word... He will show you the impossible, the unimaginable ... He will put the world before you, it will be at your feet, we are more special then all of creation to Him... Remember that

[brainfreeze]

i think being around so much unnecessary death (with what ive seen at sjh and at our regional Med, where they take the worse of the worse accident victims) puts the final dagger in any type of God belief for me... throw in the fact that, again, i simply cant wrap my head around any of the unrealistic stuff in the bible, its a done deal.

Don't give up on faith Raydog ... I talk to a retired heart surgeon all the time, his parents are baptist " bible thumpers " .. He has a hard time believing as well..but he hasn't gave up listening, he actually got angered when I searched his heart one time... It's a sensitive subject, I realize this..truth be told though, there's many rocket scientist my grandfather was one.. but not everyone has a good God given heart... Search yourself friend and keep hope, he cares about you just as much me... I assure you, he will show you things he's shown me and more if you seek Him... The real love, peace, joy, patience, and understanding that I have is unmatched to anything I've ever known... It's all miracles, He's all to real...

[Swaggy P]

Swaggy, it's no myth,... I assure you, this stuffs the real deal... There's stories of a global flood all over the world, and some of them don't even believe in the same gods... and thank you for the kind words Swaggy..
I don't come to fight you guys.. I fight against the false spirits that lead these types..Masons, templars, rosey crosses, satanist, and people with these false spirits that are conscience... just made their choice.. A new world order will come... are you ready ?

http://saintsalive.com/resourcelibrary/freemasonry/masonic-rootschrist-solomon-or-baal

who are distorting truth... and leading people astray, there's only two ways God or satans ..but ever heard that saying there's many roads that lead to hell only one leads to heaven... It's because there's so many ways to go to hell, ...self,lies, money, materials, power, greed, lust, and many more .. Only one way to heaven, and that's through Christ..and the only way to Him, is to confess, repent, be born again and literally over come the world, as I have... Hollywood or those football fields could burn down tomorrow... I wouldn't flinch, would not bother me... When I see some one hungry or without, or all these children in foster homes...

THAT BOTHERS ME.. I love people... I care less about the world

Whatever floats your boat brainfreeze, but I just have to say that I have zero interest in any of the Abrahamic faiths out there. That probably will never change.

[brainfreeze]

O yah Raydog, it not only happens for a reason... but no matter what choice someone makes they serve Gods purpose like that with solomon.. without it happening, they wouldn't need a savior to bring them back together " Christ " ... without the Jews and Romans killing Christ on the cross " immoral " murder.. We don't get a shot at eternal life... It all works for good, but what side someone chooses can give them death or eternal life... Just because of a few thorns doesn't stop God from watching a rose grow.. We get a choice to be a thorn or the rose... God bless you, Raydog

[brainfreeze]

Whatever floats your boat brainfreeze, but I just have to say that I have zero interest in any of the Abrahamic faiths out there. That probably will never change.

Swaggy, you don't have to believe but Israel and the hebrew tribes are real... Fact, the Bible correlates with real history...

[Swaggy P]

Only a few years ago? How old are you?

im 31, I've been an atheist before I even knew what it was. I think I was 10 when I came up with the Santa for grown ups analogy.

unfortunetly I was raised by stupid people who made me feel like a fcking weirdo for not 'believing'. So I spent the rest of my childhood as a 'repressed intellectual' who never voiced my opinions for fear of being thought 'different', and connected with people by being a 'meathead' athlete.

I'm sure I wasn't the only kid who had to deal with that, and I grew up in washinton state. I can't even imagine how bad it is in in the Bible Belt.

truth is, nobody if it's true. As a gambler, I'm making the biggest bet ever (my life) that it's bullshit. I'd say a proper line is like 49/1 against god being real. def not the 'flip' that some would have you believe.

I'm 25. Thankfully I was brought up in a very open minded household so my parents really didn't care if I have had a religion or no religion. I was taught to respect all faiths but sometimes I can't help but to lash out at irrationality.

I was technically a Christian but seriously started doubting and questioning god was when I delved into eastern philosophy especially Buddhism. It pretty much shook up my whole world and made me think very deeply about things.

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

Swaggy what is your stance on Iggy?

Swaggy where are you from?

[Swaggy P]

Swaggy, you don't have to believe but Israel and the hebrew tribes are real... Fact, the Bible correlates with real history...

Few bits of the bible here and there can be considered historical. I never said all of it is myth.

Good story by the way about your personal transformation. It was a nice read. It's good that you have found the path that is best suited for yourself. I admire the people who have completely changed their lives for the better and if it takes Jesus to do it then so be it. I'm all for it!

[Swaggy P]

Swaggy what is your stance on Iggy?

Swaggy where are you from?

Who or what is Iggy? I'm from Canada.

[brainfreeze]

Few bits of the bible here and there can be considered historical. I never said all of it is myth.

Good story by the way about your personal transformation. It was a nice read. It's good that you have found the path that is best suited for yourself. I admire the people who have completely changed their lives for the better and if it takes Jesus to do it then so be it. I'm all for it!

None of it is myth Swaggy, some of it takes spiritual understanding.. but no myth


Again, thank you, you seem like a nice guy but I tell you the truth when I say buddha is not the way, listen to recon1 on this one or keep searching it out... spirits do run through these other religions though, islam, buddha, and so fourth, there all false, truth and love doesn't always come wrapped in a pretty box with a smile, now some can figure that saying ... Truth!... " you can't handle the truth! " it is life changing and transforming with a renewing of the mind, how we think and act, We need God with us and to show us or it can be overwhelming, I assure that...if I may ask, what made you go look to buddha ?