Malaysia Airlines flight with 295 people on board shot down in Ukraine

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  • ArchieBunker
    SBR MVP
    • 02-21-11
    • 1512

    #281
    CNN.MSNBC,Fox detrimental to the mind they could say Santa Claus ordered the shoot down and most would actually believe it
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    • rkelly110
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 10-05-09
      • 39691

      #282
      Originally posted by brooks85
      yea because a dumb russian clearly has access to factual information. No wonder you make such smart political decisions rkelly, great logic there.
      Put the books down brooksy, ask someone who's living it, shut your mouth and open your ears. You might learn something. You think the bible is a fairy tale, but think US history books are the word? You think you're a smart guy, make it happen.
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      • Russian Rocket
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 09-02-12
        • 43910

        #283
        Originally posted by ArchieBunker
        CNN.MSNBC,Fox detrimental to the mind they could say Santa Claus ordered the shoot down and most would actually believe it
        very true
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        • 15805
          SBR MVP
          • 06-10-12
          • 3604

          #284
          Originally posted by Russian Rocket
          very true
          Am I on the right track with this analysis I'm just not sure as I just recently started following this area.

          The Lviv faction was the prominent mover of the Kiev Maidan of which less than 50% of them are Slavic.
          Many were former Poles, & Lithuanians who became Ukranians when national boundaries were changed after WWII.
          75% of Ukrainians are Slavic. Russia has always been known as 'Protectors of the Slavs' these Eastern Ukraine Russian areas have every right to want to separate and Russia has every right to aid them toward that destination.
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          • Russian Rocket
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 09-02-12
            • 43910

            #285
            Originally posted by 15805
            Am I on the right track with this analysis I'm just not sure as I just recently started following this area.

            The Lviv faction was the prominent mover of the Kiev Maidan of which less than 50% of them are Slavic.
            Many were former Poles, & Lithuanians who became Ukranians when national boundaries were changed after WWII.
            75% of Ukrainians are Slavic. Russia has always been known as 'Protectors of the Slavs' these Eastern Ukraine Russian areas have every right to want to separate and Russia has every right to aid them toward that destination.
            Yes, you are on the right track...Ukrainian nationalist movement Maidan also idolizes Stepan Bandera (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera ), who helped the Nazis fight against Russians during the WWII.

            With the outbreak of war between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union in 1941, many nationalists in Ukraine thought that they would have an opportunity to create an independent country. An entire Ukrainian volunteer division of the SS had been created.

            Many of the fighters who had originally looked to the Nazis as liberators, quickly became disillusioned and formed the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) (Ukrainian: Українська Повстанська Армія - У.П.А.), which waged military campaign against Germans and later Soviet forces.

            On June 30, 1941, the UPA, led by Stepan Bandera, declared an independent Ukrainian state. This was immediately acted upon by the Nazi army, and Bandera was arrested and imprisoned from 1941 to 1944.

            Bandera was assassinated in 1959 by the KGB for his involvement with Nazis during the war, but his movement lives on to today's day.

            Many of the Maidan radicals wear Nazi SS symbolic on their sleeves. Many of them behave the same way or pretty close to SS. Ethnic Russians in Ukraine and Russians in general can't stand it for obvious reasons.

            There is of course a lot more to this story and if you're interested in this stuff, you can find a lot of interesting reading material on this topic online.
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            • Rudeboy
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 07-15-14
              • 5725

              #286
              do not fuk with russians!

              yanks
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              • NYSportsGuy210
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 11-07-09
                • 11347

                #287
                I just read the Russian Milkman by Ipulla Titski.
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                • brooks85
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-05-09
                  • 44709

                  #288
                  Originally posted by rkelly110
                  Put the books down brooksy, ask someone who's living it, shut your mouth and open your ears. You might learn something. You think the bible is a fairy tale, but think US history books are the word? You think you're a smart guy, make it happen.
                  I'm not dumb enough to make that kind of mistake.
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                  • Russian Rocket
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 09-02-12
                    • 43910

                    #289
                    all I can say is finally all pieces are falling into place...and that's whom U.S. financed earlier this year

                    The International Criminal Police Organization has put Ukrainian Right Sector leader Dmitry Yarosh on its wanted list, according to the cross-border police body’s official website.

                    Interpol has fulfilled Russia’s April request to issue an arrest warrant for Yarosh for “public incitement to terrorist and extremist activities involving the use of mass media.”

                    A screenshot from interpol.int

                    In March, the Ukrainian politician called for “more active resistance against Russia” on his party’s page in the Russian-operated VKontakte social network. The plea was addressed to Doku Umarov, Moscow's most wanted terrorist before he was reported dead. The page was soon taken down by the social network as the content was found extremist, while the Right Sector insisted their account had been hacked.
                    Shortly after the incident, 42-year-old Yarosh was charged in absentia by Russian authorities, who forwarded his arrest warrant to Interpol.
                    Yarosh continued to make anti-Russian statements, such as threatening to blow up the gas pipes between the two countries as a “defensive measure.” He has also recruited fighters for a paramilitary unit that has battled anti-Kiev militias in eastern Ukraine.
                    The Right Sector leader received less than 1 percent of the vote in Ukraine’s presidential election in May.
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                    • onemoregoal
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 02-04-13
                      • 8149

                      #290
                      Identified as Ekaterina Parkhomenko from Torez, close to where the Boeing 777 hit the ground after being shot out of the sky, she posted a picture of a blue mascara bottle, say reports.


                      she looks like winnie from wonder yrs..
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                      • 15805
                        SBR MVP
                        • 06-10-12
                        • 3604

                        #291
                        Originally posted by Russian Rocket
                        all I can say is finally all pieces are falling into place...and that's whom U.S. financed earlier this year

                        The International Criminal Police Organization has put Ukrainian Right Sector leader Dmitry Yarosh on its wanted list, according to the cross-border police body’s official website.

                        Interpol has fulfilled Russia’s April request to issue an arrest warrant for Yarosh for “public incitement to terrorist and extremist activities involving the use of mass media.”

                        A screenshot from interpol.int

                        In March, the Ukrainian politician called for “more active resistance against Russia” on his party’s page in the Russian-operated VKontakte social network. The plea was addressed to Doku Umarov, Moscow's most wanted terrorist before he was reported dead. The page was soon taken down by the social network as the content was found extremist, while the Right Sector insisted their account had been hacked.
                        Shortly after the incident, 42-year-old Yarosh was charged in absentia by Russian authorities, who forwarded his arrest warrant to Interpol.
                        Yarosh continued to make anti-Russian statements, such as threatening to blow up the gas pipes between the two countries as a “defensive measure.” He has also recruited fighters for a paramilitary unit that has battled anti-Kiev militias in eastern Ukraine.
                        The Right Sector leader received less than 1 percent of the vote in Ukraine’s presidential election in May.

                        Although the Right Sector leader received less than 1 percent of the vote in Ukraine’s presidential election in May,
                        The Right Sector had been referred to as the most active, the most radical and the best organized group in the Kiev
                        Square. Well-equipped masked rioters from Right Sector often used clubs, petrol bombs and firearms against the Ukrainian
                        police. Some notorious members of the radical movement have continued to use rifles and pistols to intimidate local
                        authorities even after the coup,
                        Although the violent acts of the group were well-documented by media and placed on YouTube, Western
                        powers ignored its actions and persisted with describing the protests in Ukraine as “peaceful.”
                        After meeting with Ukrainian protesters, including Right Sector members, in late January, Western representatives
                        went as far as saying that they were “convinced that these people posed no threat.”

                        Now that Svoboda (only slightly more rational than the Right Sector) is one of the 2 factions that will nominate the leader of the new government the Neo-Nazi element of Ukraine seems on the march.
                        Oleh Tyahnybok, the towering and intimidating far-right leader of Svoboda,
                        sees the chance to defend his so-called pro-Ukrainian agenda.
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                        • Russian Rocket
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 09-02-12
                          • 43910

                          #292
                          Now, Ukrainian forces have started to use phosphorous incendiaries and cluster bombs against rebels and their own citizens.



                          Ukrainian troops have on many occasions used incendiary weapons and cluster bombs against militia-held cities, acts that are banned under the international law regulating warfare, the Russian military said.
                          The accusation was voiced on Friday by Major General Viktor Poznikhir, the deputy commander of the chief operations branch of the Russian General Staff. Earlier some media reports claimed that munitions, which are not allowed to be used against civilian targets, were used in eastern Ukraine by the Kiev troops in their assault on armed militias.
                          According to the general, the Russian military are certain of a number of such attacks by Ukrainian troops. Those include artillery shelling with incendiary shells on June 12 in Slavyansk, on June 24 and June 29 in Semyonovka and on July 7 in Lisichansk. There were also air strikes with incendiary bombs on June 21 in Slavyansk and Kramatorsk and on July 23 in Donetsk and shelling with cluster shells on June 24 in Semyonovka.

                          “We have sufficient proof that in the cities and villages of Ukraine I mentioned, ammunition based on phosphorus was used,” Poznikhir said. In all those instances characteristic fast-falling clusters of sparks were spotted in the air and massive fires on the ground were reported, proving that those were not illumination flares.
                          The evidence behind the ministry’s assessment includes eyewitness accounts, injuries sustained by the victims of the attacks and media reports from Ukraine, the Russian general said.
                          “The incendiaries were used against residential areas where only civilians were present at the time,” Poznikhir stressed. “We believe the Ukrainian side wanted to produce a demoralizing effect on the people and inflict serious damage to communal infrastructure, which would create the conditions for a humanitarian disaster.”
                          Most of the incidents mentioned by the general happened in or near Slavyansk, once the most defended strongholds of the Ukrainian militia, which for two months held out against the siege by Ukrainian troops. The city was eventually abandoned by militia forces, which regrouped and fortified other Ukrainian cities. Those are currently under Ukrainian attack.
                          The use of incendiary weapons against civilians or military objects located in civilian areas is forbidden by Protocol III of the UN Convention on Conventional Weapons. Ukraine is a signatory to the protocol. Cluster munitions are prohibited by the Convention on Cluster Munitions, but Ukraine did not ratify that agreement.




                          Watch (around 8min mark) reaction of State Dept's Jen Psaki when she's asked about it...

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                          • Russian Rocket
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 09-02-12
                            • 43910

                            #293
                            The shit is about to get real, folks...


                            At least 45 mortar shells fired at targets located inside the Rostov-on-Don region have been unleashed by Ukraine’s army, Russia’s border officials said. The barrage destroyed multiple houses and forced an evacuation of civilians.

                            Investigators say they were examining the site of a previous shelling near the Primiusskiy hamlet right on the southwestern edge of Russia on Wednesday, when a cannonade went off from the other side of the border.

                            “There is no doubt that those shooting from the Ukrainian side picked their target, and tried to kill Russian security officials,” said Investigative Committee representative Vladimir Markin.

                            “It is only the poor training of Ukrainian gunners, and the timely evacuation of Russian officials under the cover of armored vehicles that thwarted their plan.”

                            Six houses in the village were damaged, and one woman received a concussion as a result of a nearby explosion.

                            “The barrage is continuing from the other side of the border, and its intensity has not decreased,” said Vasily Malaev, the regional border service spokesman.

                            Shells from artillery fights in Ukraine have frequently landed on Russian territory since the beginning of summer. Primiusskiy was previously shelled just two days ago.
                            Earlier this week, a temporary refugee camp for Ukrainians fleeing the conflict was relocated further from the border, after several mortars landed nearby.

                            Additionally, one man was killed and two others received serious injuries when a Ukrainian shell hit a house in the region earlier this month.
                            At the time, the Russian Foreign Ministry described the incident as “an act of aggression” and threatened “irreversible consequences” if attacks were not discontinued.

                            Ukrainian officials have denied responsibility, and say that it is Russia that has been using its artillery to support anti-Kiev militants in the Donetsk region across the border.
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                            • brooks85
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 01-05-09
                              • 44709

                              #294
                              lol

                              russia bans imports, russians cheer. They are as dumb as liberals here. Cheer as their leader makes their life worse.
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                              • 15805
                                SBR MVP
                                • 06-10-12
                                • 3604

                                #295
                                Russia has a moral duty to help these people. They want peace and protection. History will judge Russia harshly the longer she lets these psychopaths blow pro-Russians to bits.
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                                • Boner_18
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 08-24-08
                                  • 8301

                                  #296
                                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                                  Go get some binoculars and try to track a jet flying 500 mph at 33,000 ft.
                                  Originally posted by pavyracer

                                  Why will they use optical sights to shoot down a Malaysian airliner? "Hey dude look what I found on my optical sights? A Malaysian Airlines jet. I wonder what will happen if I press this red button that says LAUNCH?"
                                  Originally posted by pavyracer

                                  Can you see that horse going 50 mph at 8 furlongs?

                                  Yes I do!
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                                  &lt;br&gt;<br>
                                  &lt;br&gt;<br>

                                  I still laugh about this. Thanks Paver!
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                                  • brooks85
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-05-09
                                    • 44709

                                    #297
                                    wrong thread
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