Let The Debate Begin: EVOLUTION VS CREATIONISM

[chilidog]

Your understanding of the Bible is very poor.

It is a fact that without Mary’s divine motherhood, there is no incarnation of Jesus, who is God incarnate. The divine person of Jesus, being consubstantial with the Father, now having two natures, the divine and human, is not made manifest to the human race without the Blessed Virgin Mary.

Why did God need to use a proxy for the birth of his Son? According to the Bible, He didn't need to use one to create well, everything else, including the first humans. So, why use Mary at all? Any Mary couldn't have been a virgin, because she was married to Joseph. And since the Bible says that women must be virgins when they are married (or else they be stoned to death)...

Deuteronomy 22:20-21

King James Version (KJV)

20 But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel:
21 Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.

[Bruce Norris]

Your understanding of the Bible is very poor.

It is a fact that without Mary’s divine motherhood, there is no incarnation of Jesus, who is God incarnate. The divine person of Jesus, being consubstantial with the Father, now having two natures, the divine and human, is not made manifest to the human race without the Blessed Virgin Mary.

Your comprehension skills are poor. I don't see how any of what you state above makes Mary omniscient and someone I need to pray to when the Bible states otherwise.
Again, traditions say otherwise, but not from the Bible.

[PhillyFlyers]

Your comprehension skills are poor. I don't see how any of what you state above makes Mary omniscient and someone I need to pray to when the Bible states otherwise.
Again, traditions say otherwise, but not from the Bible.

1. Why do you think Mary needs to be omniscient in order to intercede for us?

2. The Bible is not the authority in Christianity. Never has been, never will be. The Church is the authority.

[PhillyFlyers]

Matthew 11:28-30 clearly says:

28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Genesis 3:14

And the Lord God said to the serpent: Because thou hast done this thing, thou art cursed among all cattle, and beasts of the earth: upon thy breast shalt thou go, and earth shalt thou eat all the days of thy life. I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and HER seed: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel.

[pronk]

Phily, what are you trying to say???

[pronk]

2. The Bible is not the authority in Christianity. Never has been, never will be. The Church is the authority.

JOHN 8:31-32 RSV 31 Jesus then said to the Jews who had believed in him, "If you continue in my word, you are truly my disciples, 32 and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free."

JOSHUA 1:8 Beck 8 Don't stop reading this book of the Law, but day and night think of what it says, so you can be careful to do everything written in it; then you will prosper and succeed.

ACTS 20:32 LB 32 "And now I entrust you to God and his care and to his wonderful words that are able to build your faith and give you all the inheritance of those who are set apart for himself.

MATTHEW 4:4 NLT 4 But Jesus told him, "No! The Scriptures say, 'People need more than bread for their life; they must feed on every word of God.' "

JOHN 6:63 ICB 63 It is not the flesh that gives a person life. It is the spirit that gives life. The words I told you are spirit, and so they give life.

ROMANS 15:4 CEV 4 And the Scriptures were written to teach and encourage us by giving us hope.

JOHN 14:23-24 Rieu 23 Jesus replied: 'If anyone loves me he will cherish my word; my Father will love him and we will come to him and make him our abode. 24 He that does not love me neglects my words. Yet the word you hear is not my own but that of the Father who sent me.

2 TIMOTHY 3:16-17 NLT 16 All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It straightens us out and teaches us to do what is right. 17 It is God's way of preparing us in every way, fully equipped for every good thing God wants us to do.

HEBREWS 4:12 NLT 12 For the word of God is full of living power. It is sharper than the sharpest knife, cutting deep into our innermost thoughts and desires. It exposes us for what we really are.

[Bruce Norris]

1. Why do you think Mary needs to be omniscient in order to intercede for us?

2. The Bible is not the authority in Christianity. Never has been, never will be. The Church is the authority.

1. I don't know if she'd need to be.... and she isn't. You can go directly to God, the scriptures say so.

2. No point discussing things further if you feel that way. We can just agree to disagree.

[Bruce Norris]

JOHN 8:31-32 RSV 31 Jesus then said to the Jews who had believed in him, "If you continue in my word, you are truly my disciples, 32 and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free."

JOSHUA 1:8 Beck 8 Don't stop reading this book of the Law, but day and night think of what it says, so you can be careful to do everything written in it; then you will prosper and succeed.

ACTS 20:32 LB 32 "And now I entrust you to God and his care and to his wonderful words that are able to build your faith and give you all the inheritance of those who are set apart for himself.

MATTHEW 4:4 NLT 4 But Jesus told him, "No! The Scriptures say, 'People need more than bread for their life; they must feed on every word of God.' "

JOHN 6:63 ICB 63 It is not the flesh that gives a person life. It is the spirit that gives life. The words I told you are spirit, and so they give life.

ROMANS 15:4 CEV 4 And the Scriptures were written to teach and encourage us by giving us hope.

JOHN 14:23-24 Rieu 23 Jesus replied: 'If anyone loves me he will cherish my word; my Father will love him and we will come to him and make him our abode. 24 He that does not love me neglects my words. Yet the word you hear is not my own but that of the Father who sent me.

2 TIMOTHY 3:16-17 NLT 16 All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It straightens us out and teaches us to do what is right. 17 It is God's way of preparing us in every way, fully equipped for every good thing God wants us to do.

HEBREWS 4:12 NLT 12 For the word of God is full of living power. It is sharper than the sharpest knife, cutting deep into our innermost thoughts and desires. It exposes us for what we really are.

AND....

• "You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me" (John 5:39).
• "For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek" (Romans 1:16).
  "So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God" (Romans 10:17).
  ". . .and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus" (2 Timothy 3:15).

[PhillyFlyers]

Phily, what are you trying to say???

God's first prophecy was about MARY. Mentioned in the very first book of the Old Testament. HER seed. Mary is central to the true faith.

[PhillyFlyers]

HERESIES OF CATHOLIC CHURCH

OF ALL THE HUMAN TRADITIONS taught and practiced by the Roman Catholic Church, which are contrary to the Bible, the most ancient are the prayers for the dead and the sign of the Cross. Both began 300 years after Christ.

310

Wax Candles introduced in church 320

Veneration of angels and dead saints 375

The Mass, as a daily celebration, adopted 394

The worship of Mary, the mother of Jesus, and the use of the term, "Mother of God", as applied to her, originated in the Council of Ephesus 431

Priests began to dress differently from the laity 500

Extreme Unction 526

The doctrine of Purgatory was first established by Gregory the Great 593

The Latin language, as the language of prayer and worship in churches, was also imposed by Pope Gregory I. 600 years after Christ

The Word of God forbids praying and teaching in an unknown tongue. (1st Corinthians 14:9).

600

The Bible teaches that we pray to God alone. In the primitive church never were prayers directed to Mary, or to dead saints. This practice began in the Roman Church.

(Matthew 11:28; Luke 1:46; Acts 10:25-26; 14:14-18)

600

The Papacy is of pagan origin. The title of pope or universal bishop, was first given to the bishop of Rome by the wicked emperor Phocas.

This he did to spite Bishop Ciriacus of Constantinople, who had justly excommunicated him for his having caused the assassination of his predecessor emperor Mauritius. Gregory 1, then bishop of Rome, refused the title, but his successor, Boniface III, first assumed title "pope."

Jesus did not appoint Peter to the headship of the apostles and forbade any such notion. (Luke 22:24-26; Ephesians 1:22-23; Colossians 1:18; 1st Corinthians 3:11).

Note: Nor is there any mention in Scripture, nor in history, that Peter ever was in Rome, much less that he was pope there for 25 years; Clement, 3rd bishop of Rome, remarks that "there is no real 1st century evidence that Peter ever was in Rome."

610

The kissing of the Pope's feet

It had been a pagan custom to kiss the feet of emperors. The Word of God forbids such practices. (Read Acts 10:25-26; Revelation 19:10; 22:9).

709

The Temporal power of the Popes

When Pepin, the usurper of the throne of France, descended into Italy, called by Pope Stephen II, to war against the Italian Lombards, he defeated them and gave the city of Rome and surrounding territory to the pope. Jesus expressly forbade such a thing, and He himself refused worldly kingship. (Read Matthew 4:8-9; 20:25-26; John 18:38).

750

Worship of the cross, images and relics was authorized

This was by order of Dowager Empress Irene of Constantinople, who first caused to pluck the eyes of her own son, Constantine VI, and then called a church council at the request of Hadrian I, pope of Rome at that time.

Such practice is called simply IDOLATRY in the Bible, and is severely condemned. (Read Exodus 20:4; 3:17; Deuteronomy 27:15; Psalm 115).

788

Holy Water, mixed with a pinch of salt and blessed by the priest, was authorized 850

The veneration of St. Joseph began 890

The baptism of bells was instituted by Pope John XIV 965

Canonization of dead saints, first by Pope John XV

Every believer and follower of Christ is called saint in the Bible. (Read Romans 1:7; 1st Colossians 1:2).

995

Fasting on Fridays and during Lent were imposed

Imposed by popes said to be interested in the commerce of fish. (Bull, or permit to eat meat), some authorities say, began in the year 700. This is against the plain teaching of the Bible. (Read Matthew 15:10; 1st Corinthians 10:25; 1st Timothy 4:1-3).

998

The Mass was developed gradually as a sacrifice; attendance made obligatory in the 11th century.

The Bible teaches that the sacrifice of Christ was offered once and for all, and is not to be repeated, but only commemorated in the Lord's Supper. (Read Hebrews 7:27; 9:26-28; 10:10-14).

The celibacy of the priesthood was decreed by Pope Hildebrand, Boniface VII

Jesus imposed no such rule, nor did any of the apostles. On the contrary, St. Peter was a married man, and St. Paul says that bishops were to have wife and children. (Read 1st Timothy 3:2,5, and 12; Matthew 8:14-15).

1079

The Rosary, or prayer beads was introduced by Peter the Hermit, in the year 1090. Copied from Hindus and Mohammedans

The counting of prayers is a pagan practice and is expressly condemned by Christ. (Matthew 6:5-13).

1090

The Inquisition of heretics was instituted by the Council of Verona in the year 1184. Jesus never taught the use of force to spread His religion 1184

The sale of Indulgences, commonly regarded as a purchase of forgiveness and a permit to indulge in sin.

Christianity, as taught in the Bible, condemns such a traffic and it was the protest against this traffic that brought on the Protestant Reformation in the 16th century.

1190

The dogma of Transubstantiation was decreed by Pope Innocent III, in the year

By this doctrine the priest pretends to perform a daily miracle by changing a wafer into the body of Christ, and then he pretends to eat Him alive in the presence of his people during Mass. The Bible condemns such absurdities; for the Lord's Supper is simply a memorial of the sacrifice of Christ. The spiritual presence of Christ is implied in the Lord's Supper. (Read Luke 22:19-20; John 6:35; 1st Corinthians 11:26).

1215

Confession of sin to the priest at least once a year was instituted by Pope Innocent III., in the Lateran Council

The Bible commands us to confess our sins direct to God. (Read Psalm 51:1-10; Luke 7:48; 15:21; 1st John 1:8-9).

1215

The adoration of the wafer (Host), was decreed by Pope Honorius

So the Roman Church worships a God made by human hands. This is plain idolatry and absolutely contrary to the spirit of the Gospel. (Read John 4:24).

1220

The Bible forbidden to laymen and placed in the Index of forbidden books by the Council of Valencia

Jesus commanded that the Scriptures should be read by all. (John 5:39; 1st Timothy 3:15-17).

1229

The Scapular was invented by Simon Stock, and English monk

It is a piece of brown cloth, with the picture of the Virgin and supposed to contain supernatural virtue to protect from all dangers those who wear it on naked skin. This is fetishism.

1287

The Roman Church forbade the cup to the laity, by instituting the communion of one kind in the Council of Constance

The Bible commands us to celebrate the Lord's Supper with unleavened bread and the fruit of the vine. (Read Matthew 26:27; 1st Corinthians 11:26-29).

1414

The doctrine of Purgatory was proclaimed as a dogma of faith by Council of Florence

There is not one word in the Bible that would teach the purgatory of priests. The blood of Jesus Christ cleanseth us from all sins. (Read 1st John 1:7-9; 2:1-2; John 5:24; Romans 8:1).

1439

The doctrine of 7 Sacraments affirmed

The Bible says that Christ instituted only two ordinances, Baptism and the Lord's Supper. (Read Matthew 28:19-20; 26:26-28).

1439

The Ave Maria, part of the last

It was completed 50 years afterward and finally approved by Pope Sixtus V, at the end of the 16th century.

1508

The Council of Trent, held in the year 1545, declared that Tradition is of equal authority with the Bible

By tradition is meant human teachings. The Pharisees believed the same way, and Jesus bitterly condemned them, for by teaching human tradition, they nullified the commandments of God. (Read Mark 7:7-13; Colossians 2:8; Revelation 22:18).

1545

The apocryphal books were added to the Bible also by the Council of Trent

These books were not recognized as canonical by the Jewish Church. (See Revelation 22:8-9).

1546

The Creed of Pope Pius IV was imposed as the official creed 1560 years after Christ and the apostles

True Christians retain the Holy Scriptures as their creed. Hence their creed is 1500 years older than the creed of Roman Catholics. (Read Galatians 1:8).

1560

The Immaculate Conception of the Virgin Mary was proclaimed by Pope Pius IX

The Bible states that all men, with the sole exception of Christ, are sinners. Mary herself had need of a Savior. (Read Romans 3:23; 5:12; Psalm 51:5; Luke 1:30,46,47).

1834

In the year 1870 after Christ, Pope Pius IX proclaimed the dogma of Papal Infallibility

This is a blasphemy and the sign of the apostasy and of the antichrist predicted by St. Paul. (Read 2nd Thessalonians 2:2-12; Revelation 17:1-9; 13:5-8,18).

Many Bible students see the number of the beast (Rev. 13:18), 666 in the Roman letters of the Pope's title: "VICARIVS FILII DEI." -- V-5, I-1; C-100, I-1; V-S, I-1; L-50, I-1; I-1; D-500, I-l — Total, 666.

1870

Pope Plus X, in the year 1907, condemned together with "Modernism", all the discoveries of modern science which are not approved by the Church

Pius IX had done the same thing in the Syllabus of 1864.

1907

In the year 1930 Pius XI, condemned the Public Schools 1930

In the year 1931 the same pope Pius XI, reaffirmed the doctrine that Mary is "the Mother of God"

This doctrine was first invented by the Council of Ephesus in the year 431. This is a heresy contrary by Mary's own words. (Read Luke 1:46-49; John 2: l-5).

1931

In the year 1950 the last dogma was proclaimed by Pope Pius XII, the Assumption of the Virgin Mary

This entire post is false.

I could easily refute every single assertion but it would take too long. Many, many errors in this post. It's almost laughable.

[swordsandtequila]

This entire post is false.

I could easily refute every single assertion but it would take too long. Many, many errors in this post. It's almost laughable.

Thread has devolved into believer vs believer. Should be interesting.

[pronk]

This entire post is false.

I could easily refute every single assertion but it would take too long. Many, many errors in this post. It's almost laughable.

Go ahead and refute it Philly.
Remember: Jan Hus was burnt at the stake by Vatican mafia for blowing a whistle on them.

[brooks85]

The Library of Alexandria wasn't a museum, idiot. I can't fukkin believe the stupidity of some in here.

No shit, it was in one dummy

Why do you think I worded the joke that way. Library of Alexandria was but one piece of the museum. I'm embarrassed for you lol.

[chilidog]

God's first prophecy was about MARY. Mentioned in the very first book of the Old Testament. HER seed. Mary is central to the true faith.

Dumbass. Those scriptures were concerning Eve.

[PhillyFlyers]

Dumbass. Those scriptures were concerning Eve.

Idiot, it's about Mary not Eve. Eve can't crush Satan's head, she fell victim to him, you obscene moron. Additionally, "HER Seed" refers to a virgin birth considering that only men, not women, have the seed.

[PhillyFlyers]

No shit, it was in one dummy

Why do you think I worded the joke that way. Library of Alexandria was but one piece of the museum. I'm embarrassed for you lol.

Moron, you tried to say the library itself was a museum.

This is what I said:

The library of alexandria may have been PART of a museum but the library itself was NOT a museum which is what the idiot that I quoted was trying to say.

Which is now what you trying to say. Admit you were wrong and I was right, moron.

[muldoon]

While I think all religions are nutty on different levels, this thread has closed the gap.

Suddenly, folks like scientologists with their thetan tests still seem crazy, but the crazy runs amazingly deep in here.

Pronk
Archie, human brain is to weak to understand the supernatural and if Scripture tells you something, don't doubt it.
Even if it told me that Jonah was the one who swallowed the whale, I would still believe in God's word.

rkelly110
I know murders, rape, car crashes and the like are horrendous, but they are actually how the people wanted to die.

[chilidog]

Idiot, it's about Mary not Eve. Eve can't crush Satan's head, she fell victim to him, you obscene moron. Additionally, "HER Seed" refers to a virgin birth considering that only men, not women, have the seed.

So, let me get this straight. Mary was the one in the Garden of Eden that tempted Adam with the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge?

[rsciero]

Sure Kraken. Here it is.

1. Most evolutionists accept the big bang theory for the origins of the universe and of life here on earth, so my question to them is this....

How did a mixture of lifeless chemicals spontaneously organize themselves into the first living cell?

You have asked this question over an over again and the short answer is science doesn't have a definitive answer. This question has been asked for many years and science has progressed substantially on the topic, but no standard model for the development of life of earth exist. However, there are quite a few prominent theories and experiments based in scientific evidence that can provide some insight. The most influential perhaps was the Miller-Urey experiment, which essentially proved that simple organic compounds can be synthesized from from the, as you state "lifeless chemicals", in the conditions present on early earth. Furthermore, subsequent experiments spawned from Miller-Urey, have proved that amino acids, which are the building blocks for proteins that provide much of the machinery for our biological mechanisms, have been synthesized in these same conditions. This should give you some inclination as to how the very beginning of life on earth formed. If your still interested in the topic, search the web for abiogenesis and I believe you will find what you are looking for.

[PhillyFlyers]

You have asked this question over an over again and the short answer is science doesn't have a definitive answer. This question has been asked for many years and science has progressed substantially on the topic, but no standard model for the development of life of earth exist. However, there are quite a few prominent theories and experiments based in scientific evidence that can provide some insight. The most influential perhaps was the Miller-Urey experiment, which essentially proved that simple organic compounds can be synthesized from from the, as you state "lifeless chemicals", in the conditions present on early earth. Furthermore, subsequent experiments spawned from Miller-Urey, have proved that amino acids, which are the building blocks for proteins that provide much of the machinery for our biological mechanisms, have been synthesized in these same conditions. This should give you some inclination as to how the very beginning of life on earth formed. If your still interested in the topic, search the web for abiogenesis and I believe you will find what you are looking for.

OK. So science doesn't have an answer.

Therefore, it is clueless conjecture and guessing games being played on their part.

Here is the truth....

They will never be able to take lifeless chemicals and make a living cell.

Never.

They will be stuck in a never-ending cycle of mental masturbation where all they have is guesses and conjecture.

[zizoudane10]

The Library of Alexandria was one of the best-known of the libraries of the ancient world. One of the interesting facts about the ancient world that seems to be missing from many history books is that there were many great collections of books and literature in ancient times and most were open to any scholar from anywhere in the world.

The library at Alexandria actually competed with that at Pergamum in amassing the most complete collection of books in the world. This went on in the 200's B. C., and it is interesting to note that there were already so many works in existence that obtaining a copy of each would have been an impossible undertaking even then. The destruction of this priceless treasure was a stroke of the most unimaginable bad luck. If Byzantine Egypt had been taken by one of the later Islamic conquerors, this irreplaceable collection would have been counted amongst the finest of the spoils of war to fall into a victor's hands.

Early in the year A. D. 642, Alexandria surrendered to Amrou, the Islamic general leading the armies of Omar, Caliph of Baghdad. Long one of the most important cities of the ancient world and capital of Byzantine Egypt, Alexandria surrendered only after a long siege and attempts to rescue the city by the Byzantines. On the orders of Omar, Caliph of Baghdad, the entire collection of books (except for the works of Aristotle) stored at the Library of Alexandria were removed and used as fuel to heat water for the city's public baths.

This is not the first time the library was damaged or destroyed. Originally built to house the massive collection of books accumulated by the Ptolemaic rulers of Egypt, the library had been devastated by fire several times. During Julius Caesar's Alexandrian campaign in 47 B. C., Caesar set fire to ships in the port. The fire spread to the library, which was called the Museum at that time.

In A. D. 391, riots instigated by fanatical Christians damaged the collection heavily. During the years between disastrous events, the library collection had been gradually restored. In 641, the Caliph of Baghdad exhibited the same spirit of religious fanaticism in ordering Amrou to burn the books stored there. The loss of the library at Alexandria was a particularly grievous blow because the works of so many Roman scholars. literary geniuses, and historians were destroyed.

From the University of Minnesota.

You still don't get the fact, that you can call a lot of things "a museum".
Was the library itself part of a district that was called "The Musaeum"? YES. (you are right on that one, yet nobody said you were wrong on that one)
Was the library itself a "Musaeum" or can be called a "Musaeum"? YES.
Can you call a grave a "Musaeum"? YES.
Can you call a hill a "Musaeum"? YES.
You still don't understand the word and it's ethymology.

[PhillyFlyers]

The Library of Alexandria was one of the best-known of the libraries of the ancient world. One of the interesting facts about the ancient world that seems to be missing from many history books is that there were many great collections of books and literature in ancient times and most were open to any scholar from anywhere in the world.

The library at Alexandria actually competed with that at Pergamum in amassing the most complete collection of books in the world. This went on in the 200's B. C., and it is interesting to note that there were already so many works in existence that obtaining a copy of each would have been an impossible undertaking even then. The destruction of this priceless treasure was a stroke of the most unimaginable bad luck. If Byzantine Egypt had been taken by one of the later Islamic conquerors, this irreplaceable collection would have been counted amongst the finest of the spoils of war to fall into a victor's hands.

Early in the year A. D. 642, Alexandria surrendered to Amrou, the Islamic general leading the armies of Omar, Caliph of Baghdad. Long one of the most important cities of the ancient world and capital of Byzantine Egypt, Alexandria surrendered only after a long siege and attempts to rescue the city by the Byzantines. On the orders of Omar, Caliph of Baghdad, the entire collection of books (except for the works of Aristotle) stored at the Library of Alexandria were removed and used as fuel to heat water for the city's public baths.

This is not the first time the library was damaged or destroyed. Originally built to house the massive collection of books accumulated by the Ptolemaic rulers of Egypt, the library had been devastated by fire several times. During Julius Caesar's Alexandrian campaign in 47 B. C., Caesar set fire to ships in the port. The fire spread to the library, which was called the Museum at that time.

In A. D. 391, riots instigated by fanatical Christians damaged the collection heavily. During the years between disastrous events, the library collection had been gradually restored. In 641, the Caliph of Baghdad exhibited the same spirit of religious fanaticism in ordering Amrou to burn the books stored there. The loss of the library at Alexandria was a particularly grievous blow because the works of so many Roman scholars. literary geniuses, and historians were destroyed.

From the University of Minnesota.

You still don't get the fact, that you can call a lot of things "a museum".
Was the library itself part of a district that was called "The Musaeum"? YES. (you are right on that one, yet nobody said you were wrong on that one)
Was the library itself a "Musaeum" or can be called a "Musaeum"? YES.
Can you call a grave a "Musaeum"? YES.
Can you call a hill a "Musaeum"? YES.
You still don't understand the word and it's ethymology.

Try again, asshole.

The library was not a museum. The Museum was the larger structure the library was a part of, but the library itself was not a museum.

[zizoudane10]

OK. So science doesn't have an answer.

No definitive answer. However some very good hypotheses that all make a lot more sense than any god around.

Therefore, it is clueless conjecture and guessing games being played on their part.

Nope, absolutely not. No guessing.

Here is the truth....

They will never be able to take lifeless chemicals and make a living cell.

Never.

Pure supposition. Irrelevant speculation on your part.
Fire was once impossible, too.
Penicillin wasn't even searched for.
X-rays were found per coincidence.
Gravitation didn't make sense till 1665.
Could go on years.

They will be stuck in a never-ending cycle of mental masturbation where all they have is guesses and conjecture.

Science isn't guessing.... You greatly misunderstand that. Nothing new. Over your head, can't blame you.

[zizoudane10]

Try again, asshole.

The library was not a museum. The Museum was the larger structure the library was a part of, but the library itself was not a museum.

See, you don't get it.
You simply are too dumb to understand the word
Whatever, blow another dikk and hail your god afterwards.
I'm done here.
Can't argue with monkeys. Evolution clearly skipped a step on you.

[rsciero]

I genuinely attempted to help answer your question yet it appears as if you didn't read past the first sentence. Conjecture it may be, but clueless it surely is not (Cite the scientific evidence in previous post). Your close minded sentiments just expose how little you know about biology, either by choice or pure ignorance. I'm not going to waste any more of my time trying to explain the steps in the evolutionary process to such a close minded individual and perhaps its to complex for you. For simpler minded folks, I suppose its much easier to attribute what we do not know to an imaginary omnipotent entity then to delve deep into the unknown to figure out the answer.

[PhillyFlyers]

No definitive answer. However some very good hypotheses that all make a lot more sense than any god around.

Nope, absolutely not. No guessing.

Pure supposition. Irrelevant speculation on your part.
Fire was once impossible, too.
Penicillin wasn't even searched for.
X-rays were found per coincidence.
Gravitation didn't make sense till 1665.
Could go on years.



Science isn't guessing.... You greatly misunderstand that. Nothing new. Over your head, can't blame you.

Try again, asshole.

No definitive answer means speculation.

Stop following the ridiculous ravings of an english madman.

Darwin was a fukkin nutjob.



Man came from Apes and life from dead matter.

[zizoudane10]

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[pronk]

You have asked this question over an over again and the short answer is science doesn't have a definitive answer. This question has been asked for many years and science has progressed substantially on the topic, but no standard model for the development of life of earth exist. However, there are quite a few prominent theories and experiments based in scientific evidence that can provide some insight. The most influential perhaps was the Miller-Urey experiment, which essentially proved that simple organic compounds can be synthesized from from the, as you state "lifeless chemicals", in the conditions present on early earth. Furthermore, subsequent experiments spawned from Miller-Urey, have proved that amino acids, which are the building blocks for proteins that provide much of the machinery for our biological mechanisms, have been synthesized in these same conditions. This should give you some inclination as to how the verym beginning of life on earth formed. If your still interested in the topic, search the web for abiogenesis and I believe you will find what you are looking for.

Polonium halos says you're wrong Mr. 22 posts science man. And tell your pals Miller & urey they're wrong too.

[Footy4Jesus]

For simpler minded folks, I suppose its much easier to attribute what we do not know to an imaginary omnipotent entity then to delve deep into the unknown to figure out the answer.

Perhaps delving into the unknown also involves looking into the possibility of an omnipotent entity. No? Not simple minded, but quite the opposite to think on a much different level. Its a very philosophical question and to laugh it off as a figment of your imagination without doing your due research into the matter is just bad study.

Id rather figure simple minded folks are individuals that come to conclusions based off of their own feelings and what their godless instructors like to tell them in science class, instead of being a critic of men and doing the homework for yourself. Its your eternity. I may not be able to prove to you such a concept exists but you cant prove your opinion, either. Just based off of that fact, for there to be even the slightest possibility that such things as eternity and heaven exist, I wouldn't take it so lightly and might make an effort to look into the subject.

[Footy4Jesus]

PhillyFlyers,

You're not being a good Christian example to others.

Also, we all don't think like you or hold the same opinions regarding science.

[PhillyFlyers]

PhillyFlyers,

You're not being a good Christian example to others.

Also, we all don't think like you or hold the same opinions regarding science.

Don't know what you're talking about.

I'm not trying to press my beliefs on anyone.

If you want to believe in the writings of an english lunatic like Darwin and think that Man came from apes and life from dead matter, go right ahead.