George Zimmerman Trial

[SportsMushroom]

Zimmerman wasn't on watch that night, he was on his way to the grocery store.

doesnt change anything, he started following a kid at night without giving a reason, kid naturally got scared and attacked, got shot

he may have fired in self defense, but he instigated the attack by being a creep and making martin genuinely afraid for his life

[Kermit]

doesnt change anything, he started following a kid at night without giving a reason, kid got scared and attacked, got shot

he may have fired in self defense, but he instigated the attack by being a creep

It might not change anything, but you said that he was on watch and he wasn't. If he were on watch, then he most definitely should not have had the gun on him, but since he wasn't on watch, he was "allowed" to have it.

[billyloco]

GZ, is a good guy WHO FUKKED UP!!!

Manslaughter & 10 yrs at least.

[Mac4Lyfe]

If he wasn't on watch then what was he on? A vigilante manhunt? He called the police when he saw a suspicious black kid, followed him around the complex like a pedophile, then got out of his car with a gun.

Zimmerman is guilty as hell of being a wanna be police officer harassing a teenager. The guy should be guilty of premeditated 1st degree murder because he purposely confronted this kid because he thought "those Ni***s always get away". Unfortunately, the prosecution has their heads up their asses and are doing more to help the defense rather than present a coherent case. Zimmerman will be clear of 2nd degree murder but will have some lessor charge. In the end, his life is fukked as he will probably never be able to get another job, will always have one eye open when he sleeps and will have to escape into seclusion. I'd bet he'll be dead within 5 years. Suicide or someone will shank him on the street.

This was a lose/lose event for all parties.

It might not change anything, but you said that he was on watch and he wasn't. If he were on watch, then he most definitely should not have had the gun on him, but since he wasn't on watch, he was "allowed" to have it.

[The Kraken]

i think the truth is starting to take form if you consider all the different accounts of the events


zimmerman was on watch, he saw a guy that didnt live in the neighborhood and followed him, martin got scared, thought he was in danger and attacked zimmerman, zimmerman feared for his life and shot the guy

I think zimmerman is guilty of being an overzealous tool but either than that it sounds like he was truly defending himself, but he did provoke the attack and should somehow be punished, maybe a few months to a year in prison and have his gun license taken away

this could have easily been prevented, when zimmerman asked martin what he was doing there martin should have just told him

First, Martin had no obligation to answer any questions by Zimmerman. This could have all been avoided had Zimmerman heeded the advice of the 911 operator and kept his fat ass planted at home, where it belonged.

Zimmerman fukked over his entire family. They'll never live in peace again. They will live out the remainder of their lives looking over their shoulders. That's no way to live.

Sucks to be Zimmerman or anyone related to him. Regardless of the verdict.

[SportsMushroom]

It might not change anything, but you said that he was on watch and he wasn't. If he were on watch, then he most definitely should not have had the gun on him, but since he wasn't on watch, he was "allowed" to have it.

Im not 100% sure about this but when the shooting first happened I remember reading that there was no official neighborhood watch, there was a watch but it was something that zimmerman started on his own, which strengthens the vigilante theory

I have no problem with people taking justice into their own hands but zimmerman was an idiot, he was so eager to 'protect and serve' that he saw crime everywhere, if you see a guy with his hands in his pockets and a bag of snacks you think 'this guy has just been to the store and he's going home to watch a movie', you dont assume that he is up to no good and start following him.

[Marv001]

I have no doubt that Zim is more to blame in this situation. Unfortunately for Martin, he has soo much bad shiet through social media and so forth. You still have to be careful and keep a clean profile or people will do this shiet to an innocent kid.

[wikkidinsane]

Look how miserably the defense failed at trying to manipulate Trayvon's mother into "HOping"

[wikkidinsane]

RIP Buddy

[itchypickle]

Poor Zimmerman...the dude has been threatened....not been able to return home to his wife in over a year. Life turned upside down....financial ruins......

All because some racist fukks just want to whip up this nonsense. Eye witness 10 feet or less from the incident stated what happened...Trayvon was carrying out a hate crime attacking the 'cracker' 'niggah' in his own words. If he had just went on back and played his video game like a good boy all would be well today.

FREE GEORGE! JUSTICE FOR ZIMMERMAN!!

[CarpeDime]

RIP Buddy
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RIP bro

sorry you crossed paths with that sick whacked-out whackjob

we will get justice for you one way or another

[itchypickle]

Live by the gun, die by the gun.....

You ever met a retired elderly thug? Nope....life expectancy short inevitable

[Let's Go Rangers]

As hard as Florida tried to frame up GZ, they just couldn't construct enough evidence to finish the job

[TheMoneyShot]

If he wasn't on watch then what was he on? A vigilante manhunt? He called the police when he saw a suspicious black kid, followed him around the complex like a pedophile, then got out of his car with a gun.

Zimmerman is guilty as hell of being a wanna be police officer harassing a teenager. The guy should be guilty of premeditated 1st degree murder because he purposely confronted this kid because he thought "those Ni***s always get away". Unfortunately, the prosecution has their heads up their asses and are doing more to help the defense rather than present a coherent case. Zimmerman will be clear of 2nd degree murder but will have some lessor charge. In the end, his life is fukked as he will probably never be able to get another job, will always have one eye open when he sleeps and will have to escape into seclusion. I'd bet he'll be dead within 5 years. Suicide or someone will shank him on the street.

This was a lose/lose event for all parties.

First, Martin had no obligation to answer any questions by Zimmerman. This could have all been avoided had Zimmerman heeded the advice of the 911 operator and kept his fat ass planted at home, where it belonged.

Zimmerman fukked over his entire family. They'll never live in peace again. They will live out the remainder of their lives looking over their shoulders. That's no way to live.

Sucks to be Zimmerman or anyone related to him. Regardless of the verdict.

I agree with both of these statements. And Zimmerman better stay indoors and get use to playing PS4 day and night. Probably won't see the sun shine anymore.

[statnerds]

true no winners.

media didn't get the white guy they wanted, florida can't convict and kill him, Martin got a bullet, his GF got to display her public education, but at least we all got distracted for awhile.

just think if Zimmerman were black; no of us would have ever heard of Martin.

anyone want to take a shot (pun intended) at how many black kids killed other black kids since Martin died? dipshate libs with your fake fukk care and compassion for the african-american race.

[CarpeDime]

dipshate libs with your fake fukk care and compassion for the african-american race.

how do you know it's fake?? just because wikkidinsane and i are not african-american ourselves doesn't necessarily mean that our care and compassion for the african-american race is fake

[itchypickle]

how do you know it's fake?? just because wikkidinsane and i are not african-american ourselves doesn't necessarily mean that our care and compassion for the african-american race is fake

Pretty sure Wikkid is a black male....remember him boxing in a garage or something awhile back. Like a smaller version of TriggerTrace

[Reno Paul]

All I know that the verdict should come in pretty soon....Heard the next week or week after.

Wouldn't want to be in certain urban areas if Zimmerman is found not guilty.

Be prepared for riots.

[itchypickle]

All I know that the verdict should come in pretty soon....Heard the next week or week after.

Wouldn't want to be in certain urban areas if Zimmerman is found not guilty.

Be prepared for riots.

Just reenforces the fact of the mindset and lack of civility in some communities. Pathetic.

[wikkidinsane]

I care for all people regardless of color. If the races were reversed in this case I would be on the prosecution side too, based on all the evidence that has been presented so far.

[nate turner]

YOU WANT TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE FUK BOY?

WHEN A SO CALLED BLACK MALE SHOOTS ANOTHER BLACK MALE,GUESS WHAT, HIS BLACK A$$ IS GOING TO JAIL.
HE WILL NOT WALK BECAUSE HE HAS THE COMPLEXION OF A CAUCASOID.HE WILL NOT WALK BECAUSE HIS ALLEGED FATHER IS A ALLEGED JUDGE.
LET A BLACK MALE EVEN LOOK AT CAUCASOID WRONG, HIS A$$ IS GOING TO JAIL.
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LOOK AT THIS CASE ,http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/0...went-to-Court#....................... BLACK MAN STANDING HIS GROUND, GUESS WHAT HIS BLACK A$$ WENT TO JAIL. HE WAS FOUND GUILTY OF MANSLAUGHTER. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF YOU FUKING MUTTS DEFENDING HIM.......OK I SEE WRONG COMPLEXION.
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ONE DAY YOU WHITE TURD FUKS WILL HAVE TO ANSWER FOR YOUR HATE, AND ANSWER FOR THE HATE PEOPLE LIKE ME HAVE FOR YOU.
I DO NOT BELIEVE IN GOD, BUT I HOPE IF THERE IS A GOD I PRAY HE WILL NOT HAVE EVEN A SMALL AMOUNT OF COMPASSION WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP.
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I HOPE THIS TURD JORGE ZIMMERMAN IS FOUND NOT GUILTY.THE WHITE MAN IS THE DEVIL,THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT.
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TO THE FUK BOYS OF SBR DO NOT SEND ME A PM I DO NOT READ THEM.

TO THE RIGHTEOUS, YES I SAID THE RIGHTEOUS........................PEACE BE UPON YOU.
TO THE WICKED ........................................ ...........................SLOW DEATH

[itchypickle]

I care for all people regardless of color. If the races were reversed in this case I would be on the prosecution side too, based on all the evidence that has been presented so far.

What evidence are you speaking of...specifically? Not media reports..but evidence presented in trial?

Have to ask because it's clear that trayvon was on top...he had not been beaten, Zimmerman had whether you agree to what extent or not...Zimmerman clearly had taken his lumps....eye witness backs up Zimmerman side that it was Zimmerman calling for help. Evidence also shows no depraved mind from the get go seeing as Zimmerman was in constant contact with people trying to get police to the scene.

[CarpeDime]

What evidence are you speaking of...specifically? Not media reports..but evidence presented in trial?

Have to ask because it's clear that trayvon was on top...he had not been beaten, Zimmerman had whether you agree to what extent or not...Zimmerman clearly had taken his lumps....eye witness backs up Zimmerman side that it was Zimmerman calling for help. Evidence also shows no depraved mind from the get go seeing as Zimmerman was in constant contact with people trying to get police to the scene.

i dont know man, zimmy started it

zimmy was following the kid

if someone was following me, i'd be freaked out and scared too

id probably run and/or start crying because i am a pussy, but martin took a different tack

zimmy left the house with a gun, started an incident with someone who was unarmed and otherwise minding his own business, and wound up shooting and killing the guy

if you ask me, he gets the chair, even if martin decided to deal with the situation by attacking zimmy

if you start some sh*t, whatever happens is your own fault

in this case, it's pretty clear to me that zimmy started it

[wikkidinsane]

What evidence are you speaking of...specifically? Not media reports..but evidence presented in trial?

Have to ask because it's clear that trayvon was on top...he had not been beaten, Zimmerman had whether you agree to what extent or not...Zimmerman clearly had taken his lumps....eye witness backs up Zimmerman side that it was Zimmerman calling for help. Evidence also shows no depraved mind from the get go seeing as Zimmerman was in constant contact with people trying to get police to the scene.

First off, who was screaming for help should not even be debated anymore. George Zimmerman himself said he did not belive that the voice on the tape was him[George Zimmerman]. George Zimmerman himself,during the first meeting with police, was asked if the lumps on his head was due to injury and you what George Zimmerman said about his OWN HEAD? *Drumroll*Thats how his head is shaped. It came out his own mouth. What comes out your own mouth defiles you. Zimmerman hunted down Trayvon that night, he wanted to make sure another one didnt get away so he made certain by putting that gun to Trayvons chest and firing.

[irish1]

First off, who was screaming for help should not even be debated anymore. George Zimmerman himself said he did not belive that the voice on the tape was him[George Zimmerman]. George Zimmerman himself,during the first meeting with police, was asked if the lumps on his head was due to injury and you what George Zimmerman said about his OWN HEAD? *Drumroll*Thats how his head is shaped. It came out his own mouth. What comes out your own mouth defiles you. Zimmerman hunted down Trayvon that night, he wanted to make sure another one didnt get away so he made certain by putting that gun to Trayvons chest and firing.

What do you mean by another one?

[itchypickle]

First off, who was screaming for help should not even be debated anymore. George Zimmerman himself said he did not belive that the voice on the tape was him[George Zimmerman]. George Zimmerman himself,during the first meeting with police, was asked if the lumps on his head was due to injury and you what George Zimmerman said about his OWN HEAD? *Drumroll*Thats how his head is shaped. It came out his own mouth. What comes out your own mouth defiles you. Zimmerman hunted down Trayvon that night, he wanted to make sure another one didnt get away so he made certain by putting that gun to Trayvons chest and firing.

He said to the effect "wow that doesn't even sound like me" as in the tone over the audio yes. Agreed. But he never said it wasn't him screaming...he said on scene...he said in the video taken at the scene the next morning, he stated in follow up interview, AND eye witness saw him that he was screaming help.

Common sense...if you are Trayvon and you are mounted and hitting someone...why would you, as the dominant position one, be screaming for help?

Zimmerman was consistent and even police and other witnesses said he said "i was screaming for help and noone came"

Listen to the entirety of the 911 calls...from first sighting until he got out of the car...got back in the car...and out again to find an address for arriving officers to find him, not to where Trayvon was last seen......there is no hunting going on man.

[itchypickle]

i dont know man, zimmy started it

zimmy was following the kid

if someone was following me, i'd be freaked out and scared too

id probably run and/or start crying because i am a pussy, but martin took a different tack

zimmy left the house with a gun, started an incident with someone who was unarmed and otherwise minding his own business, and wound up shooting and killing the guy

if you ask me, he gets the chair, even if martin decided to deal with the situation by attacking zimmy

if you start some sh*t, whatever happens is your own fault

in this case, it's pretty clear to me that zimmy started it

Agreed Zimmerman initiated 911 calls about it and got out to look to see where he went....not in dispute...but where did Zimmerman start the 'fight'....that is the point on trial. As stated by prosecution witnesses eve...even if Zimmerman went hands on first but then Trayvon reversed it and put him to the ground...that changes the dynamics.

Self defense is more broad than you're making it. If you bump into me at the bar...I give you a look and then you mouth of....doesnt mater who throws first punch...I could hit you square in the throat but if you then get up and pull a knife on me and have me on the ground with it to my throat....I am justified in going to that level as well. Doesnt matter what either of us believe personally.....its a matter of the law...bottom line. Murder2 is not being proven, not even close here.

[wikkidinsane]

You really believe Trayvon was on top? I believe Zimmerman drew his gun and there was a struggle with Trayvon screaming help. I dont care what Zimmerman said the following day. He was very aware what he was being asked and who knows his voice better than himself.

"wow that doesn't even sound like me" Who does it sound like then Zimmerman? Trayvon perhaps...

[itchypickle]

You really believe Trayvon was on top? I believe Zimmerman drew his gun and there was a struggle with Trayvon screaming help. I dont care what Zimmerman said the following day. He was very aware what he was being asked and who knows his voice better than himself.

"wow that doesn't even sound like me" Who does it sound like then Zimmerman? Trayvon perhaps...

The witness who walked out and saw the fight swore under oath it was Trayvon on top....he agrees it was Zimmerman calling for help. The physical evidence proves Trayvon was on top. WHERE other than your mind is there any evidence that Zimmerman pulled his weapon and then the struggle happened? And if that happened...why would Trayvon be on top punching or bashing or whatever he was doing instead of disarming Zimmerman? How then did Zimmerman get the shot off that he did?

You have Zimmerman giving the same statement as the eyewitnesses gave....you can't just toss that out because you wanna prove otherwise. Just doesnt add up, the whole racist hunting down scenario.

[Let's Go Rangers]

You really believe Trayvon was on top? I believe Zimmerman drew his gun and there was a struggle with Trayvon screaming help. I dont care what Zimmerman said the following day. He was very aware what he was being asked and who knows his voice better than himself.

"wow that doesn't even sound like me" Who does it sound like then Zimmerman? Trayvon perhaps...

So for 20 seconds where was GZ gun?
Why not just shoot him?
How did GZ get broken nose and cut up back of head?

How did GZ have stains on back of clothes

[Mac4Lyfe]

Florida has gone fukking crazy. Folks walking the streets packing with pistols. It's the fukking OK corral. Get in an argument, shoot someone dead and you won't even get arrested because you were "standing your ground". We're going to see a bunch of dead folks over petty fukking arguments.

Pathetic precedence. Anyone brandishing a pistol in any fight should have their ass locked up. Madness.

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LOOK AT THIS CASE ,http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/0...went-to-Court#....................... BLACK MAN STANDING HIS GROUND, GUESS WHAT HIS BLACK A$$ WENT TO JAIL. HE WAS FOUND GUILTY OF MANSLAUGHTER. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF YOU FUKING MUTTS DEFENDING HIM.......OK I SEE WRONG COMPLEXION.
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[Mac4Lyfe]

Dude, give it a rest. We all know a fight broke out. Who gives a shit???

You don't go in creep mode, stalking, following people with a loaded gun. Zimmerman was fukking foul and deserved to get his ass beat. Then like a lil bitch he shot the kid because he sucked at MMA. Zimmerman deserves life in prison for being a punk ass bitch that started and finished a fight that should have never happened.

So for 20 seconds where was GZ gun?
Why not just shoot him?
How did GZ get broken nose and cut up back of head?

How did GZ have stains on back of clothes

[Ra77er]

This thread is perfect for degens to spew racism towards each other. If your taking a beating in the sbr casino or your ex wife etc it should be legal to just say whatever you want in this thread only and not face administrative action.

[CarpeDime]

damn that is one hell of post retard

[TheRifleman]

Trayvon Martin shooting: Martin and George Zimmerman’s mothers both testify screams for help belonged to their sons

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...#ixzz2YDU7R3jI