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  • PerfectGrape
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-20-11
    • 6761

    #54181
    down to -3 -101
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    • KVB
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 05-29-14
      • 74817

      #54182
      You have seen that Atlanta +134 moneyline on my pending page, bought early. I thought it might bet he best price back then. It quickly went to +140 and has been there for almost two weeks.

      Now the money line is +130.

      Pinny shows -3 at +108. I'm seeing -3 (+100) in the trading account.

      Matsuyama is tied at 17 under with Webb Simpson. Simpson was about 80-1, Matsuyama was one of the tourney favorites at 10-1.

      It looks like the anticipated favorite coming back may have occurred, it looks like it. We could still see extra holes.

      That Atlanta pressure showing a little bit here. The TOTAL is now 56.5..lol.


      It's as though the market has gone from selling the NE, which is never necessary, to selling Atlanta.

      Let's see if it steams. Better yet, let's see if Matsuyama fails here, to see if he misleads the marketplace.

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      • KVB
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 05-29-14
        • 74817

        #54183
        Imagine that, extra holes on SuperBowl Sunday. With a clear favorite and a clear underdog playing.


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        • KVB
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 05-29-14
          • 74817

          #54184
          Imagine that, another playoff hole.

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          • KVB
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 05-29-14
            • 74817

            #54185
            Heavy fluctuation on the TOTALS. Like I alluded to earlier, these moves aren't significant, the books could go back and forth all day long here.

            Back to 57.5.
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            • KVB
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 05-29-14
              • 74817

              #54186
              I took UNDER 57.5 (-101) in the trading account.

              Probably some live trading to come.


              Short Description
              Football - 102 Atlanta Falcons +134 for Game
              Football - 101 New England Patriots/Atlanta Falcons under 57½ -101 for Game
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              • KVB
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 05-29-14
                • 74817

                #54187
                That's a bold play as I took UNDER 57.5 (-101) for Atlanta vs. New England.

                Good Luck

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                • KVB
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 05-29-14
                  • 74817

                  #54188
                  Superbowl has begun and still no answer in golf.

                  Imagine that.

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                  • KVB
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 05-29-14
                    • 74817

                    #54189
                    Went live with the UNDER as well...

                    Short Description
                    Golf Futures - 2017 Golf Events - PGA - Phoenix Open - Odds to win PGA Phoenix Open 2017 - Phil Mickelson +2750
                    Golf Futures - 2017 Golf Events - PGA - Phoenix Open - Odds to win PGA Phoenix Open 2017 - Patrick Reed +3200
                    Golf Futures - 2017 Golf Events - PGA - Phoenix Open - Odds to win PGA Phoenix Open 2017 - Brendan Steele +3300
                    Golf Futures - 2017 Golf Events - PGA - Phoenix Open - Odds to win PGA Phoenix Open 2017 - Daniel Berger +6600
                    - Game Total: Under 56.5 -117.172 - Sun Feb 05 2017 18:16EST: NE Patriots vs ATL Falcons
                    - Game Total: Under 56.5 -122.222 - Sun Feb 05 2017 18:16EST: NE Patriots vs ATL Falcons

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                    • stevenash
                      Moderator
                      • 01-17-11
                      • 65306

                      #54190
                      Originally posted by KVB
                      Heavy fluctuation on the TOTALS. Like I alluded to earlier, these moves aren't significant, the books could go back and forth all day long here.

                      Back to 57.5.
                      Like a yo-yo
                      We can get an easy in game middle if this stays scoreless a little longer.
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                      • KVB
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 05-29-14
                        • 74817

                        #54191
                        Originally posted by stevenash
                        Like a yo-yo
                        We can get an easy in game middle if this stays scoreless a little longer.
                        I think this one stays UNDER this time, I'm holding and will let them burn me.

                        Golf still not giving us an answer...
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                        • stevenash
                          Moderator
                          • 01-17-11
                          • 65306

                          #54192
                          Originally posted by KVB
                          Superbowl has begun and still no answer in golf.

                          Imagine that.

                          Golf?
                          What's that?


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                          • stevenash
                            Moderator
                            • 01-17-11
                            • 65306

                            #54193
                            In game total is now 48

                            When it gets to 44.5 or under I pounce.
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                            • KVB
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 05-29-14
                              • 74817

                              #54194
                              Matsuyama, the favorite, is the winner.

                              In my opinion, the probability of Atlanta covering the 3 points just went up significantly, only now it's pretty hard to get 3.

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                              • stevenash
                                Moderator
                                • 01-17-11
                                • 65306

                                #54195
                                Live in game total now at 46
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                                • KVB
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 05-29-14
                                  • 74817

                                  #54196
                                  We might get out of the first quarter without a score...



                                  This game is going to have a good ending.
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                                  • KVB
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 05-29-14
                                    • 74817

                                    #54197
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                                    • KVB
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 05-29-14
                                      • 74817

                                      #54198
                                      43.5 Nash.

                                      That's tempting for sure.

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                                      • stevenash
                                        Moderator
                                        • 01-17-11
                                        • 65306

                                        #54199
                                        Originally posted by KVB
                                        43.5 Nash.

                                        That's tempting for sure.

                                        Got it

                                        I have over 43.5 in game live for 50
                                        I have game under 58 for 200

                                        Just wanted that 14 point plus middle.
                                        Perfect
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                                        • KVB
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 05-29-14
                                          • 74817

                                          #54200
                                          Originally posted by KVB
                                          We might get out of the first quarter without a score...

                                          ...
                                          Remember that I mentioned early 2nd quarter TD's lead to OVERs.



                                          In addition, Matusyama wins and then Atlanta takes the lead, a bit too perfect.



                                          NE +143 moneyline live looks tempting as well.

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                                          • KVB
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 05-29-14
                                            • 74817

                                            #54201
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                                            • KVB
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 05-29-14
                                              • 74817

                                              #54202
                                              Originally posted by stevenash
                                              Got it

                                              I have over 43.5 in game live for 50
                                              I have game under 58 for 200

                                              Just wanted that 14 point plus middle.
                                              Perfect

                                              Good timing and good trade. Let's see how it plays out.
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                                              • KVB
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 05-29-14
                                                • 74817

                                                #54203
                                                Originally posted by KVB
                                                ...It's tough to see Atlanta AND the UNDER coming in this game...
                                                Short Description
                                                Football - 102 Atlanta Falcons +134 for Game
                                                Football - 101 New England Patriots/Atlanta Falcons under 57½ -101 for Game
                                                That's how it's showing now. My bets a can only lose from here.

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                                                • PerfectGrape
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 09-20-11
                                                  • 6761

                                                  #54204
                                                  congrats

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                                                  • KVB
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 05-29-14
                                                    • 74817

                                                    #54205


                                                    But this game is not over Grapes. I think we all know it's likely going to coming down to the wire.

                                                    See my post about dynasties and Tiger Woods.

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                                                    • PerfectGrape
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 09-20-11
                                                      • 6761

                                                      #54206
                                                      sorry. lot of time left
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                                                      • PerfectGrape
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 09-20-11
                                                        • 6761

                                                        #54207
                                                        wow
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                                                        • KVB
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 05-29-14
                                                          • 74817

                                                          #54208
                                                          Originally posted by PerfectGrape
                                                          wow
                                                          Don't tell me you are surprised? It's the whole reason I wrote all that I wrote. It's about steering money and taking it down. I couldn't scream any louder once Atlanta had a three score lead, sharks abound and rightfully so. After seeing where the money falls, I hope these posts reveal a little more into why I say I hate to lead early in certain plays. Either way, through the NFL playoffs I think we've seen a lot about why money falls where it does, how it gets steered, and how it gets take down.

                                                          The Patriots get to play that role this year, as they have many times in the past.

                                                          See that post about dynasties and Woods, do you think I ever expected to hit the Atlanta and UNDER? I'll be honest, I never did. I thought NE would win by 3 points, backing out of the whole deal and that Atlanta was bought very early. It's the only Atlanta I owned. TOTALs have been a disaster most of the playoffs and it fits to go to OT and land right on 62 points (sharp forecast said 31-31).

                                                          How about the post about market mechanics and prices, and how the Pittsburgh bettors were being scared off, and then checking the line on the Pats? Pricing in those numbers has it's own give and take, this time the books took that side.

                                                          For this week, after seeing the golf relationship play out during the championship weekend, I get to be wrong about the golf as I maintain the Matsuyama, while not the outright favorite was a definite favorite this weekend.

                                                          Like I was saying, it sure seemed like we were being walked into the dog play. It's the reason I didn't press it from that early buy and stuck with the UNDER, but I would not have taken the Patriots or the OVER...again, see the post about dynasties and Tiger Woods.

                                                          As far as the golf relationship, I say, once again, there will be repercussions.

                                                          My only regret is not being around Friday and Saturday night to complete the golf picture, but we'll have plenty golf coming up.

                                                          So while everyone cheers the Pats and call them the greatest, once again some pros and analysts find themselves grumbling a little bit.

                                                          It's not what they bring, it's how they bring it.

                                                          And so we move on to the next game. The next big one will be NCAA Hoops.

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                                                          • PerfectGrape
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 09-20-11
                                                            • 6761

                                                            #54209
                                                            lot of planets had to align for them to cover, you don't find it a little extraordinary?

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                                                            • KVB
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 05-29-14
                                                              • 74817

                                                              #54210
                                                              Originally posted by PerfectGrape
                                                              lot of planets had to align for them to cover, you don't find it a little extraordinary?...
                                                              Here's my view on this. I expect the comeback, when the professionals bring it, it was expected.

                                                              Sure an amazing catch or kick might make it look improbable, but a world where that catch needs to get made and doesn't often finds some penalty call, or unsportsmanlike behavior, that fixes the situation.

                                                              I've just seen too much of it. It goes both ways as well. How about that great catch made to put Seattle on the 1 yard line at the end of a Superbowl against the Pats? Amazing and as Seattle looked like it was sealed, a one yard slant interception gets thrown.

                                                              I've seen so many market situations play out, with both athlete success and failure, that very little surprises or amazes me.

                                                              In Plato's Parable of the Cave, every drop and catch, regardless of how amazing or unlikely, is still just a shadow on the wall. It's tough to accept, that's why I think it's best shown by example.

                                                              In this weekend's example, I had some things right, and some wrong. Having one favorite golfer and one underdog golfer in a playoff that isn't decided until SuperBowl kickoff was the prediction I wanted the thread to see by example, making the correct bet on the SuperBowl was secondary and not even necessary. After all, the best playoff bets had already passed. I put it off but finally made the UNDER call in the thread at market close, right near game time.

                                                              Some examples may come across easier if everything bet is always right, but it's not realistic.

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                                                              • Fidel_CashFlow
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 12-03-12
                                                                • 53970

                                                                #54211
                                                                I win more than I lose over these last 6 years

                                                                I still do believe I find edges betting on professional sports

                                                                BUT

                                                                its still gambling. Tonight makes me glad Im only a small bettor and never go all in
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                                                                • KVB
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 05-29-14
                                                                  • 74817

                                                                  #54212
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                                                                  • KVB
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 05-29-14
                                                                    • 74817

                                                                    #54213
                                                                    Originally posted by Fidel_CashFlow
                                                                    I win more than I lose over these last 6 years

                                                                    I still do believe I find edges betting on professional sports

                                                                    BUT

                                                                    its still gambling. Tonight makes me glad Im only a small bettor and never go all in
                                                                    I would have liked to see the UNDER, but that game winner and spread was going to be a close one no matter.

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                                                                    • Fidel_CashFlow
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 12-03-12
                                                                      • 53970

                                                                      #54214
                                                                      tonight didnt even happen

                                                                      we are all sleeping
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                                                                      • Fidel_CashFlow
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 12-03-12
                                                                        • 53970

                                                                        #54215
                                                                        Originally posted by KVB
                                                                        I would have liked to see the UNDER, but that game winner and spread was going to be a close one no matter.

                                                                        There are prolly 10 dif plays in the last 18 minutes of that game where if any single
                                                                        one of them woulda microscopically went differently it would of secured the win for Atlanta

                                                                        I mean how ... the almost picks that are dropped,

                                                                        the almost picks that are dropped for receptions by New England

                                                                        The timing of the penalties

                                                                        the play calling

                                                                        the untimely fumbles

                                                                        the sacks where a regular 2nd string QB let alone the MVP wouldnt allowed being sacked

                                                                        gotta repeat , the fukkin playcalling

                                                                        its too much . The bad challenges which cost timeouts for ATL

                                                                        ATL not lettin them score right away so they would have time to score themselves if New England converted

                                                                        ATL snapping the ball with 20 secs left

                                                                        This is the biggest combined team , from QB, to players, to offensive and defensive players and coordinators

                                                                        you will EVER see in the history of organized professional sports.

                                                                        Something needs to be done about this. Game replayed, doesnt count. Someone murdered on live TV

                                                                        from the Falcons coaching roster

                                                                        ANYTHING, something needs to be done. This doesn't happen in real life.

                                                                        To prove it, pinch yourself in a couple seconds. This is just a dream. You are sleeping

                                                                        Enjoy tomorrows super bowl between the Falcon and Patriots , Falcons will win
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