No One Even Talks About WS Of Poker Anymore

jjgold · 07-12-10, 04:14 PM

Its not a pro sport because in pro sports amateurs DO NOT WIN

Its a game of chance

jjgold · 07-12-10, 04:29 PM

Ok here is a recap of all the bracelet winners
So called big names or mid level names of poker....... approx 55 events which you can enter multiple ones

Michael Mizrachi solid player on tv at times but lucky if he has 5 wins the last 5 years in any tourney and they enter a ton
Men Nguyen been around for years and was long overdue for a win
Dutch Boyd borderline good player maybe 5 wins in 10 years
Sam Farha tv player with a few wins his whole fukkin life
Phil Ivy- huge name and got a bracelet..he does seem to grind out a big win every year
Huck Seed- long time player no where to be found the last 5 years or so
Gavin Smith-pretty good player and on tv at times

This year actually a few more names that are known in the vegas poker world

EaglesPhan36 · 07-12-10, 04:34 PM

Poker always has been the dumbest thing ESPN tried to shove down our collective throats. Watching dudes play cards is about as exciting as watching chicks play ... any sport, except maybe the hot chicks in tennis.

Sforz · 07-12-10, 05:10 PM

when it first started to air, it was interesting.. but then every channel had a game on...i got so sick of poker... forget watching it on tv, I'm so sick of it, i will not even play...

konck · 07-12-10, 05:42 PM

I think the WSOP lost its following when they made HIGH STAKES poker it more fun to watch knowing some one could lose 1/2 million or so on a bad call.

Ian · 07-12-10, 08:20 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Ok here is a recap of all the bracelet winners
So called big names or mid level names of poker....... approx 55 events which you can enter multiple ones

Michael Mizrachi solid player on tv at times but lucky if he has 5 wins the last 5 years in any tourney and they enter a ton
Men Nguyen been around for years and was long overdue for a win
Dutch Boyd borderline good player maybe 5 wins in 10 years
Sam Farha tv player with a few wins his whole fukkin life
Phil Ivy- huge name and got a bracelet..he does seem to grind out a big win every year
Huck Seed- long time player no where to be found the last 5 years or so
Gavin Smith-pretty good player and on tv at times

This year actually a few more names that are known in the vegas poker world

I didn't realize until I read the quoted post and the one you made above it that you're just trolling. I'm not sure which characterization of the names you listed is more silly: Sam Farha being a "tv player" when he's a nosebleed stakes reg. in Bobby's Room, or Huck Seed being "no where to be found" except when he won a major tv tourney last year.

jjgold · 07-12-10, 09:38 PM

Sam Fara is one of worst tourney pros of all times

Son I know the game a lot more than you

Point is so called high profile players are no where to be found in most poker tourneys the last 4 years or so

gwiz · 07-12-10, 09:46 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Its not a pro sport because in pro sports amateurs DO NOT WIN

Its a game of chance

golfers win as amateurs but then again some say golf is not a sport

icancount2one · 07-13-10, 12:07 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Its not a pro sport because in pro sports amateurs DO NOT WIN

Its a game of chance

Does the best capper ALWAYS win the capping contests on here? Don't you find that as the size of the contest increases, the greater the chances that someone like me will luckbox out someone like you?

Ian · 07-13-10, 03:38 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Son I know the game a lot more than you

Grandpa, I highly doubt it.

ryanspeer2001 · 07-13-10, 03:54 AM

I love the game and can't get enough of playing it but for gods sake watching it on tv disgusts me.

jjgold · 07-13-10, 05:12 AM

The TV for poker is virtually done because they the players have no accomplishments anymore

The announcers keep taking about how good they are and most of these players have not won a tourney in fukkin years

Everyone is a great cash game player

Why are most poker players broke??

If Danny Negrandua had to post up his own money and enter tourneys he would be fukkin broke
He makes money off tables and does not ever win

Some poker players do have some good lifetime win earnings but you do not see how much they have lost

Hotdiggity11 · 07-13-10, 05:49 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Ok here is a recap of all the bracelet winners
So called big names or mid level names of poker....... approx 55 events which you can enter multiple ones

Michael Mizrachi solid player on tv at times but lucky if he has 5 wins the last 5 years in any tourney and they enter a ton
Men Nguyen been around for years and was long overdue for a win
Dutch Boyd borderline good player maybe 5 wins in 10 years
Sam Farha tv player with a few wins his whole fukkin life
Phil Ivy- huge name and got a bracelet..he does seem to grind out a big win every year
Huck Seed- long time player no where to be found the last 5 years or so
Gavin Smith-pretty good player and on tv at times

This year actually a few more names that are known in the vegas poker world

Pros win all of the high buy-in low turnout events like the HORSE, Stud, Razz, and Lowball tournaments. The Holdem tournaments, especially the lower buyin, all have thousands of people in it, making it tough for television known pros to win in.

Hotdiggity11 · 07-13-10, 05:50 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Some poker players do have some good lifetime win earnings but you do not see how much they have lost

Sharkscope allows you to see how much professionals made or lost at this year's WSOP. Just select WSOP and type in their names, instant graph.

eidolon · 07-13-10, 05:53 AM

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but the 10k buy is too low. They need to bump it up to 25k for a couple of years and then up to 50k. It has been at 10k since 1969. I know they have other large tournaments during the WSOP: 50k Horse, a couple of 25k tournaments. They shouldn't have added the large NL texas holdem at the begging of the WSOP; it will take a lot away from the main event. The main event should be for the best of the best: the people who aren't afraid to put up 50-100k; or so good that people would back them the money.

Hotdiggity11 · 07-13-10, 06:01 AM

Originally posted by eidolon

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but the 10k buy is too low. They need to bump it up to 25k for a couple of years and then up to 50k. It has been at 10k since 1969. I know they have other large tournaments during the WSOP: 50k Horse, a couple of 25k tournaments. They shouldn't have added the large NL texas holdem at the begging of the WSOP; it will take a lot away from the main event. The main event should be for the best of the best: the people who aren't afraid to put up 50-100k; or so good that people would back them the money.

That's ridiculous. Why should it be for the "best of the best?" It is advertised as a tournament almost anyone can enter [Due to cheap satellites] and anyone can win. Pumping it up to 50k would totally kill the excitement of the WSOP, people like feel good underdog stories. The 50k Players Championship is the tournament pros want to win anyways.

eidolon · 07-13-10, 06:13 AM

Originally posted by Hotdiggity11

That's ridiculous. Why should it be for the "best of the best?" It is advertised as a tournament almost anyone can enter [Due to cheap satellites] and anyone can win. Pumping it up to 50k would totally kill the excitement of the WSOP, people like feel good underdog stories. The 50k Players Championship is the tournament pros want to win anyways.

Because that is why the main event was started in the first place. Sure anyone can join, but at 10k over 7 thousand ppl are playing, which makes it a complete crap-shoot.
But you are right about the 50k players championship; I just hope they show that one on TV. They seem to be afraid to show anything other then Texas style poker on TV. Stud and Omaha are fun to watch; but people don't play it as much, show they afraid people won't understand what is going on.

Hotdiggity11 · 07-13-10, 06:31 AM

Originally posted by eidolon

Because that is why the main event was started in the first place. Sure anyone can join, but at 10k over 7 thousand ppl are playing, which makes it a complete crap-shoot.
But you are right about the 50k players championship; I just hope they show that one on TV. They seem to be afraid to show anything other then Texas style poker on TV. Stud and Omaha are fun to watch; but people don't play it as much, show they afraid people won't understand what is going on.

The 50k will be shown on TV.

The main event was indeed started in 1970 [Technically 1971] as a tournament for pros but that changed quite a bit in the late 70s when satellites were introduced, making it more affordable to people outside of the Texas poker circle. The number of entrants rapidly went up from there. Keep in mind, even in 2003, over 800 people entered the main event. This was before the poker boom. Another reason entrants exploded was because of online satellites. No longer did you have to go to a Las Vegas casino to qualify. On top of that, satellites in Vegas typically are 10 man $1000 dollar seats in which only the winner gets a seat. Online, you can turn 5-25 dollars into a WSOP seat. This is why thousands of people now qualify through online.