HOW would you have PLAYED QQ on the button ?

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  • Sam Odom
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-30-05
    • 58063

    #1
    HOW would you have PLAYED QQ on the button ?
    2-3 NL game full table LIVE

    Left of the BB raises to 12 (standard raise where I play). Everyone left of him calls.

    I'm the dealer and I have QdQs. I have 240.00

    So, how would you play it?
  • cappinthepigs
    SBR MVP
    • 10-07-09
    • 1864

    #2
    You damn near gotta push it all in. At least 120
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    • iifold
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 04-25-10
      • 11111

      #3
      make it 70
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      • Brick
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 08-13-09
        • 652

        #4
        push
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        • UntilTheNDofTimE
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 05-29-08
          • 9285

          #5
          Raise to 48-70 depend on how many callers
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          • UntilTheNDofTimE
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 05-29-08
            • 9285

            #6
            Nvm i didnt read full table. Id make it 60
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            • Emily_Haines
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 04-14-09
              • 15917

              #7
              The only thing that would concern me is if the UTG had pocket AA or pocket KK. I try not to overplay pocket QQ but you defiantly have to raise here.
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              • Sam Odom
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 10-30-05
                • 58063

                #8
                Originally posted by Sam Odom

                2-3 NL game full table LIVE

                Left of the BB raises to 12 (standard raise where I play). Everyone left of him calls.

                I'm the dealer and I have QdQs. I have 240.00

                So, how would you play it?


                I made an over-pot raise to 100.00 leaving me 140

                Got two callers
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                • JohnAnthony
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 04-30-09
                  • 5110

                  #9
                  Make it at least x2.5 the pot.
                  "I have never seen a wild thing feel sorry for itself. A little bird will fall dead, frozen from a bough, without ever having felt sorry for itself."

                  - D.H. Lawrence
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                  • UntilTheNDofTimE
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 05-29-08
                    • 9285

                    #10
                    Emily thats why u raise here.
                    If you get repopeed to 160-240 you fold. A lot less costly that going to the flop and seeing all unders where its harder for you to get away from the hand
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                    • Sam Odom
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-30-05
                      • 58063

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Emily_Haines

                      The only thing that would concern me is if the UTG had pocket AA or pocket KK. I try not to overplay pocket QQ but you defiantly have to raise here.

                      Also, with all the calls you know the chances are high most of the Aces or Kings are out if not paired so you have to get the A/rag suited to fold and the Kings with another paint
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                      • gryfyn1
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-30-10
                        • 3285

                        #12
                        Originally posted by UntilTheNDofTimE
                        Nvm i didnt read full table. Id make it 60
                        What good does 60 do? at this point at this point the pot is already 77, raise to 60 and the pot is 137, and you have 6 people in that would need to only call 48 in 137.

                        With that many people You need to make it alot, like 100 at least. (then they would have to call 88 into 177); other wise the odds to too favorable to call. Then of course you have to know if you can lay them down if you get another re-raise assuming only one other at that point you would feel compelled to call you last 140 into 417? If so may as well go all in.

                        The table seems excessively loose; you could at this point play the Q's like a mid size pair and call and hope for trips,
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                        • Sam Odom
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 10-30-05
                          • 58063

                          #13
                          Originally posted by gryfyn1

                          The table seems excessively loose

                          More like a lot of sociable gamblers (squares perhaps) because it was Friday nite, free food special, Lakers gm & Padres on big screen TVs
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                          • jayc88
                            Restricted User
                            • 12-30-07
                            • 6785

                            #14
                            you wont get away from that hand.
                            raise to 90 or 100 and push on the flop
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                            • keyboarding
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 07-30-09
                              • 6817

                              #15
                              I'd call. See a flop. Go from there. You're ideally looking at a race (which isn't ideal really) or are already behind. In either case, sounds like you're a solid enough player to pick a better spot to commit your entire stack.

                              Hope for a low rainbow flop, anything else and let it go.

                              So, what happened?
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                              • sharpcat
                                Restricted User
                                • 12-19-09
                                • 4516

                                #16
                                Raise 160 and give anybody who wants to call just under 2-1 on their money
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                                • Sam Odom
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 10-30-05
                                  • 58063

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Sam Odom

                                  2-3 NL game full table LIVE

                                  Left of the BB raises to 12 (standard raise where I play). Everyone left of him calls.

                                  I'm the dealer and I have QdQs. I have 240.00

                                  So, how would you play it?

                                  Originally posted by Sam Odom

                                  I made an over-pot raise to 100.00 leaving me 140

                                  Got two callers


                                  Originally posted by keyboarding

                                  So, what happened?




                                  Okay, In hindsight I was a 55% favorite <---- Not Bad Considering! I'll take that all the time

                                  The 1st guy to my left had Xh Xc

                                  The next guy had Ad Qh

                                  The flop came Ac Jc 6c Fukk me <---- Now I have a 1% chance (In hindsight)

                                  The guy with XX goes All-In with 80.00 (clubs draw)

                                  The guy with AQ raises to put me all-in

                                  I fold



                                  Epilogue

                                  3 hands later I get AK of diamonds facing a 25.00 raise & a call, I go all-in for 140

                                  I lose to a pair of 8s from the 1st raiser
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                                  • poker_dummy101
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 11-03-08
                                    • 6395

                                    #18
                                    shove > call > raise
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                                    • poker_dummy101
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 11-03-08
                                      • 6395

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by keyboarding
                                      You're ideally looking at a race (which isn't ideal really) or are already behind.

                                      A race is good. Alot of dead money in the pot
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                                      • DrStale
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 12-07-08
                                        • 9692

                                        #20
                                        I think you played it pretty well. Tough flop.

                                        You got a lot of money into the pot while having the strongest hand and only 2 other players in, hard to be upset with that.
                                        Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                        If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                                        • sharpcat
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 12-19-09
                                          • 4516

                                          #21
                                          Sounds like a few donks, facing a reraise with all of those calls with AQ suited or a small pair is not a good call on their part.

                                          You had them beat can't ever predict pure bad luck.
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                                          • Congruency
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 04-12-10
                                            • 561

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by poker_dummy101
                                            shove > call > raise
                                            what?? how is a raise the worst option? a shove is only being called by AA/KK and a call is just getting asked to get beat in a 6 way pot

                                            raise to 70 is the best play, evaluate the flop like you did
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                                            • keyboarding
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 07-30-09
                                              • 6817

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                              The guy with XX goes All-In with 80.00 (clubs draw)
                                              Did the clubs hit?
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                                              • Sam Odom
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 10-30-05
                                                • 58063

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by keyboarding

                                                Did the clubs hit?

                                                Oh, I forgot say The Aces held up
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                                                • poker_dummy101
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 11-03-08
                                                  • 6395

                                                  #25
                                                  and if the flop comes 742 are you not getting your money all in with qq?
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                                                  • Sam Odom
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 10-30-05
                                                    • 58063

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by poker_dummy101

                                                    and if the flop comes 742 are you not getting your money all in with qq?

                                                    Sure, even if its a call because an AA or KK would have most likely went All In Pre flop over my 100.00 raise
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                                                    • hoobiwan
                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                      • 03-30-10
                                                      • 64

                                                      #27
                                                      call and raise
                                                      QQ is a weak cards preflop
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                                                      • poker_dummy101
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 11-03-08
                                                        • 6395

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                                        Sure, even if its a call because an AA or KK would have most likely went All In Pre flop over my 100.00 raise
                                                        and if you wouldve folded qq to an all in, why would he reraise all in with something better
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                                                        • Sam Odom
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 10-30-05
                                                          • 58063

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by poker_dummy101

                                                          and if you wouldve folded qq to an all in, why would he reraise all in with something better



                                                          you asked about after a rag flop

                                                          I would have NOT folded then


                                                          If an ALL IN came pre flop over my 100.00 I would have considered folding strongly
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                                                          • DrStale
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 12-07-08
                                                            • 9692

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by hoobiwan
                                                            call and raise
                                                            QQ is a weak cards preflop
                                                            I want to play this guy heads up.
                                                            Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                                            If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                                                            • poker_dummy101
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 11-03-08
                                                              • 6395

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                                              Sure, even if its a call because an AA or KK would have most likely went All In Pre flop over my 100.00 raise
                                                              Originally posted by poker_dummy101
                                                              and if you wouldve folded qq to an all in, why would he reraise all in with something better
                                                              this is what i was responding to
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                                                              • Sam Odom
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 10-30-05
                                                                • 58063

                                                                #32
                                                                PD101, sorry I cannot make out what you are saying or trying to ask. But I'm logging off to head out & get my $$$ back

                                                                See ya
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                                                                • Sam Odom
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 10-30-05
                                                                  • 58063

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Finished a 4 hour session today. Won 288. What goes around comes around
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                                                                  • OmgUrMom
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 02-07-10
                                                                    • 8481

                                                                    #34
                                                                    keep it simple, all-in
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                                                                    • OmgUrMom
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 02-07-10
                                                                      • 8481

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Sam Odom


                                                                      you asked about after a rag flop

                                                                      I would have NOT folded then


                                                                      If an ALL IN came pre flop over my 100.00 I would have considered folding strongly
                                                                      this would be absolutely terrible
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